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Anybody remember when they left 50000 American and British pows get shipped to Siberia after the war cause Stalin occupies their camps and kept them for ransom. Fdr Esienhower and Pepperidge farm remembers as did Patton. No ransom was paid and those men perished or were absorbed into Soviet society what was left of them.
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"when men were men"... Right, because being ordered to storm a beach by oligarchs and globalists who don't give a fuck about your life and being cut down by machine gun fire really proves one's manhood!

Strange thinking in this thread...

How many millions had to die senselessy due to the misguided actions of the very few?

Realize the insanity in all of this...
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Please read this quote, taken from the book, I know these dictators. G Ward Price was a guest of Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini many years before war broke out.

The is what Adolph Hitler said.
Page 100
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“ I am no new advocate of an Anglo-German understanding. In Germany I have made
between four and five thousand speeches to small, large, and mammoth audiences, yet there is
no single speech of mine, nor any line that I have written, in which I have expressed anything
contrary to this conception, or against an Anglo-German understanding.
“ So far as I am concerned, the world may reproach me with what it will; one reproach,
however, it can never make-that I have vacillated in my views or been unfaithful in my work.
Had an unknown man with such defects set himself to win a nation in fifteen years, he could
never have succeeded. This perhaps is the basis of what may, to many, seem the exaggerated
faith inspired by my personality. I believe that my consistent mental attitude, my invariable
principles, and my unshakable resolution will in the end succeed in enabling me to play a
great and historical part towards the re-establishment of sound and permanent relations
between the two great Germanic nations.
“ Such an agreement between England and Germany would represent the weighty
influence for peace and common sense of 120,000,000 of the most valuable people in the
world. The historically unique colonial aptitude and the naval power of Britain would be
combined with that of one of the first military nations of the world. If this under- standing
could be still further enlarged by the adhesion of the American nation, it would be absolutely
impossible to see who in the world could disturb a combination for peace which would never,
of set purpose or intent, neglect the interests of the white peoples.

 Quoting: The Acute Misanthropist 77732315


Well, while I am of the opinion that the US should have never entered that damn war (my dad fought there) and I do think it would have been better had Germany won, Germany DID do terrible things because of that admiration for British colonialism and that idiotic Lebensraum. Had Germany never invaded anyone else and just continued the amazing improvements in Germany, there would have been no war. Have you ever read anything Hitler said about the Slavs? He wanted to colonize their lands and put them in service to Germany. He saw them as practically subhuman. He made some fairly good points about them (Russians) being backward peasants whose lives and living conditions would actually be improved by German administration and cultural influences but he chose to conquer by force rather than win people over by example and that led to the destruction of Nazi Germany and an ungodly number of people, in Germany and beyond. It was the desire for empire and taking by force that was their downfall and resulted in the commies taking half of Europe.
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All propaganda. Germany was anti-colonial and wanted back the lands which were historically always German. The finance world declared war on Germany because there is no room for a skim when a sovereign engages in direct barter.
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No, it's not propaganda (what I wrote). You can also see by my post that you quoted that I found a lot to admire in Nazi Germany. However, it's not black or white. There was a lot of black and grey and the Nazis did some terrible things. Hitler most certainly wanted to colonize Slavic lands such as western Russia and Ukraine and settle them with Germans overseeing Slavic labor. He saw that as a benefit for Germany (products for the Reich) and something that would uplift the colonized Slavs. Those not needed for work were intended to be deported to Siberia. While so many Russians suffered under communism, they did NOT want to be colonized by Germans and a hatred against the Nazis exists to this day because of the invasion of the USSR. My position is that Germany could have led by example by staying within their own borders and making Germany a spectacular model. Being that that National Socialism was both socialist and collectivist, such an example could have won over those enslaved by communism but who still related to socialism and collectivism (very European ideologies, unlike the US). It's foolish, no matter how you admire anyone, to be blind to their mistakes and evil that exist(ed) along with what was good or extraordinary. The Nazis embodied the full spectrum.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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My grandfathers served one in pacific the other in Normandy. I dated a German girl for a year and had the opportunity to visit her and her family though we weren’t together anymore. Her father took me to a shooting range and an old 90 year old veteran rode his 5 wheeler to meet “the American”. He wanted a picture of me and he hugged me saying “we were brothers again after so long”. The men at the range were taken aback when I said with tears and a stoic nature “we were never supposed to be enemies and it was all a contrived false affair”. He said it was a great closure. A humbling moment
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:

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Yeah, Hi.

You made that all up.
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uhh no jackass. go read patons diary and letters from after the war.. fucking idiots coming out the woodwork here
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"when men were men"... Right, because being ordered to storm a beach by oligarchs and globalists who don't give a fuck about your life and being cut down by machine gun fire really proves one's manhood!

Strange thinking in this thread...

How many millions had to die senselessy due to the misguided actions of the very few?

Realize the insanity in all of this...
 Quoting: WOLF*


^^^THIS!

It's a viscous circle of propaganda and voluntary self delusion because so few can admit that so many have died and been maimed for the ambitions of a few. It's dangerous, too, because it was the senseless dying in WWI that allowed the Bolsheviks to gain control over Russia. Out of misery, troops defected to support the Bolsheviks - only to reap more misery.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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stop acting like the nazi's were mr nice guys fighting the good fight for whitey

THEY were the ones that attacked their white brothers

they invaded poland and france without provocation

their planes mercilessly bombed london and their u boats sank any non-military vessel they could find

the went out of their way to commit unspeakable atrocities towards human beings that have no justification whatsoever

germany could have been a bad ass powerhouse of a nation if they simply minded their own business
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Most of these Edgelord Hitler love tards are neckbeards and mixed race jerkoffs living in basements who lack any history of their own so dream of the day their "Aryan" bros get to rise again and cause another war that finally kills off the rest of their fellow white brothers in another 12 year failed uberreich.

Seriously, used to lurk on the natsoc forums for years and most of them are the most laughable ugly basement bois and half mexican/slav fantasists who think they're going to lead some worldwide white revolution.
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this is what we call a low IQ post
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Here you can hear how collectivist Hitler's ideology was:



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In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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Here you can hear how collectivist Hitler's ideology was:



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Don't know why that didn't embed.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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Anybody remember when they left 50000 American and British pows get shipped to Siberia after the war cause Stalin occupies their camps and kept them for ransom. Fdr Esienhower and Pepperidge farm remembers as did Patton. No ransom was paid and those men perished or were absorbed into Soviet society what was left of them.
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Yep and similar atrocities were committed against the German people who were evicted from their homes which were turned over to eastern European Js and in the Eisenhower death camps. I've read that a million Germans were killed or driven to death AFTER the war ended.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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My grandfathers served one in pacific the other in Normandy. I dated a German girl for a year and had the opportunity to visit her and her family though we weren’t together anymore. Her father took me to a shooting range and an old 90 year old veteran rode his 5 wheeler to meet “the American”. He wanted a picture of me and he hugged me saying “we were brothers again after so long”. The men at the range were taken aback when I said with tears and a stoic nature “we were never supposed to be enemies and it was all a contrived false affair”. He said it was a great closure. A humbling moment
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Very moving story and it made me CIP (Cry In Public). Luckily it's just me and the birds out here. Thanks for saying it so well!peace
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


 Quoting: Dr. Rendezvous


My grandfather never wanted to talk about the war,ever.

I have spoken with many folk's in my age group, within 10 years both ways, and they ,too, say the same thing. Their grandparents never wanted to talk about the war.

I personally believe that its more than just the blood and guts of war, its because many of them knew what had happened to the Germans and were ashamed of it.

They knew the wrong enemy was defeated as they all came back home and saw things clearly for what they were.
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You guys are misinformed.

The enemy was defeated already 11 months before the landing in Normandy. So, the USA GIs couldn't have defeated it.
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Interesting.

That is why USA and UK had few losses, as compared to other countries who lost millions.
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Great footage, and felt more brotherly to me than the British, as an Englishman with Irish blood.

Imagine German won the war, be sure we would be in the golden age. and space travel in 4th dimensions.
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This whole debate of wether Hitler was a 'good' guy or no is really about Populism or pure democracy VS rule by elites.

Hitler sought to implement common sense policies that benefited the German Volk and undo the systematic cultural subversion assault by Communism. Of course in such an effort minority rights do not count for much, so goodbye gays, disabled gypsies communists dues etc.

The elites have (disingenously?) insisted that such pure democracy or populism should be limited and tempered and controlled by the ethical considerations of superior beings such as themselves via Constitution bills, Supreme courts, bill of rights etc.

That is why the reflexive hysterical demonisation of anything to do with Hitler, Nationalism, populism - it is a battle for control between the interests of ordinary people and the elites.


The current balance of power is so out of wack towards elitism that we have clown world now where illegal immigrants have more rights that citizens and pedo drag queens are grooming your children in public libraries.
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this is what we call a HIGH IQ post. o7
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"when men were men"... Right, because being ordered to storm a beach by oligarchs and globalists who don't give a fuck about your life and being cut down by machine gun fire really proves one's manhood!

Strange thinking in this thread...

How many millions had to die senselessy due to the misguided actions of the very few?

Realize the insanity in all of this...
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low IQ POST. shame you cant pick up on the nuance
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Nazis are thick in here
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The most ill-informed idiotic absurd statement ever made on the Internet.

Congratulations, Moran.

Unfortunately,there is no medal for it.
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The most absurd ever made on the internet? He stated facts, non of which you can refute, instead you make an absurd statement in return.
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Right on the money; the original poster did state irrefutable facts. Who invaded Poland, France the Soviet Union, and committed the acts and horrible atrocities the original poster and others have pointed out? That would be Hitler's Nazi Germany. And who declared war on the United States on December 11, 1941? That would be Hitler's Nazi Germany. So the US should not have fought Nazi Germany in WW II because it was "the best that Europe and the white race had to offer" - original post - is as ridiculous as it sounds given the facts.

Hitler is one of the most evil tyrants and his Nazi Germany is one of the most evil regimes in the history of the world, and both got exactly what they deserved.
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over 50k germans were murdered by communists in poland the month following hitler invading in 1939.

Hitler didnt declare war on the allies, France and UK declared war on germany over poland but not russia even though they invaded poland too, and then handed poland over to the communists after the war.

Hitler was at war with J-ish bolshevism, which murdered tens of millions in eastern europe before ww2 started.

Hitler made numerous peace offers with the allies, which were all rejected.

invasion of russia was a preemptive strike.

US was sending billions of aid to UK and Russia to fight against germany, thus declaration of war.

oh yeah and the holocaust is a lie
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Thank you for taking the time..I just don't have it anymore for certain people.

You did leave a few things out, but none the less, bang on,sir!

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Right on the money; the original poster did state irrefutable facts. Who invaded Poland, France the Soviet Union, and committed the acts and horrible atrocities the original poster and others have pointed out? That would be Hitler's Nazi Germany. And who declared war on the United States on December 11, 1941? That would be Hitler's Nazi Germany. So the US should not have fought Nazi Germany in WW II because it was "the best that Europe and the white race had to offer" - original post - is as ridiculous as it sounds given the facts.

Hitler is one of the most evil tyrants and his Nazi Germany is one of the most evil regimes in the history of the world, and both got exactly what they deserved.
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over 50k germans were murdered by communists in poland the month following hitler invading in 1939.

Hitler didnt declare war on the allies, France and UK declared war on germany over poland but not russia even though they invaded poland too, and then handed poland over to the communists after the war.

Hitler was at war with J-ish bolshevism, which murdered tens of millions in eastern europe before ww2 started.

Hitler made numerous peace offers with the allies, which were all rejected.

invasion of russia was a preemptive strike.

US was sending billions of aid to UK and Russia to fight against germany, thus declaration of war.

oh yeah and the holocaust is a lie
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Germany declares war on the US and the US should ally with Germany; trust the words of a madman (Hitler) and a holocaust denier; says it all.
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Germany declared war on the US because of the Tripartate pact they had with Japan. Now you know why the FDR administration allowed Pearl Harbor to be attacked.
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


 Quoting: Dr. Rendezvous


My grandfather never wanted to talk about the war,ever.

I have spoken with many folk's in my age group, within 10 years both ways, and they ,too, say the same thing. Their grandparents never wanted to talk about the war.

I personally believe that its more than just the blood and guts of war, its because many of them knew what had happened to the Germans and were ashamed of it.

They knew the wrong enemy was defeated as they all came back home and saw things clearly for what they were.
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You guys are misinformed.

The enemy was defeated already 11 months before the landing in Normandy. So, the USA GIs couldn't have defeated it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71336019


Interesting.

That is why USA and UK had few losses, as compared to other countries who lost millions.
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Germany was not already defeated when the US entered the war. The US lost a couple of hundred thousand troops in WWII Europe. The reason so many Europeans died is because the war was fought there and the vast majority of deaths were civilians.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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These guys won WW2.

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Some have labelled it "The Stupid War" and I concur. Henry Makow suggests that Hitler was an Illuminati agent working at the behest of British interests. I suspect he may have been demonically possessed as well. What else could explain his desiring to SACRIFICE so many of the Germany's finest at Stalingrad?


My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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My grandfather never wanted to talk about the war,ever.

I have spoken with many folk's in my age group, within 10 years both ways, and they ,too, say the same thing. Their grandparents never wanted to talk about the war.

I personally believe that its more than just the blood and guts of war, its because many of them knew what had happened to the Germans and were ashamed of it.

They knew the wrong enemy was defeated as they all came back home and saw things clearly for what they were.
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Please read this quote, taken from the book, I know these dictators. G Ward Price was a guest of Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini many years before war broke out.

The is what Adolph Hitler said.
Page 100
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[link to der-fuehrer.org]
-----------

“ I am no new advocate of an Anglo-German understanding. In Germany I have made
between four and five thousand speeches to small, large, and mammoth audiences, yet there is
no single speech of mine, nor any line that I have written, in which I have expressed anything
contrary to this conception, or against an Anglo-German understanding.
“ So far as I am concerned, the world may reproach me with what it will; one reproach,
however, it can never make-that I have vacillated in my views or been unfaithful in my work.
Had an unknown man with such defects set himself to win a nation in fifteen years, he could
never have succeeded. This perhaps is the basis of what may, to many, seem the exaggerated
faith inspired by my personality. I believe that my consistent mental attitude, my invariable
principles, and my unshakable resolution will in the end succeed in enabling me to play a
great and historical part towards the re-establishment of sound and permanent relations
between the two great Germanic nations.
“ Such an agreement between England and Germany would represent the weighty
influence for peace and common sense of 120,000,000 of the most valuable people in the
world. The historically unique colonial aptitude and the naval power of Britain would be
combined with that of one of the first military nations of the world. If this under- standing
could be still further enlarged by the adhesion of the American nation, it would be absolutely
impossible to see who in the world could disturb a combination for peace which would never,
of set purpose or intent, neglect the interests of the white peoples.

 Quoting: The Acute Misanthropist 77732315


Well, while I am of the opinion that the US should have never entered that damn war (my dad fought there) and I do think it would have been better had Germany won, Germany DID do terrible things because of that admiration for British colonialism and that idiotic Lebensraum. Had Germany never invaded anyone else and just continued the amazing improvements in Germany, there would have been no war. Have you ever read anything Hitler said about the Slavs? He wanted to colonize their lands and put them in service to Germany. He saw them as practically subhuman. He made some fairly good points about them (Russians) being backward peasants whose lives and living conditions would actually be improved by German administration and cultural influences but he chose to conquer by force rather than win people over by example and that led to the destruction of Nazi Germany and an ungodly number of people, in Germany and beyond. It was the desire for empire and taking by force that was their downfall and resulted in the commies taking half of Europe.
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All propaganda. Germany was anti-colonial and wanted back the lands which were historically always German. The finance world declared war on Germany because there is no room for a skim when a sovereign engages in direct barter.
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No, it's not propaganda (what I wrote). You can also see by my post that you quoted that I found a lot to admire in Nazi Germany. However, it's not black or white. There was a lot of black and grey and the Nazis did some terrible things. Hitler most certainly wanted to colonize Slavic lands such as western Russia and Ukraine and settle them with Germans overseeing Slavic labor. He saw that as a benefit for Germany (products for the Reich) and something that would uplift the colonized Slavs. Those not needed for work were intended to be deported to Siberia. While so many Russians suffered under communism, they did NOT want to be colonized by Germans and a hatred against the Nazis exists to this day because of the invasion of the USSR. My position is that Germany could have led by example by staying within their own borders and making Germany a spectacular model. Being that that National Socialism was both socialist and collectivist, such an example could have won over those enslaved by communism but who still related to socialism and collectivism (very European ideologies, unlike the US). It's foolish, no matter how you admire anyone, to be blind to their mistakes and evil that exist(ed) along with what was good or extraordinary. The Nazis embodied the full spectrum.
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Perhaps you can mention what the "terrible" things the Germans did? And while you're at it, since you seem to know a lot about WW2, maybe you could also mention the "terrible" things the Polish, Russian, and Americans did.

Now, as for Lebensraum. Its true that Germany had plans for a greater living space for Germany. He did say certain things about the Slavs, the Mongolian type, later he was to recant on his comments regarding the majority of the Russians, as he later found out about them from close associates and adjutants.

You do realize that there were hundreds of thousands, if not millions of other men from other nations, including Russia, who helped the Germans in the Wehrmacht and SS divisions ,fighting Bolshevism.

I think many of the millions of Russians would have had much better lives under Germany, than they did under Stalin and those before him.

This is why so many of them greeted the Germans, housed and feed them, when the arrived.

I could go on and on here but I think this should suffice for the time being. If you want to learn more about, you can find out more. Read some books, and watch some films.

You can start here.

www.twofilms.tv
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Nazis are thick in here
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No, they aren't. People want the record of a very complicated period in history set straight.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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Who REALLY engineered/created WWII?

Who benefitted the most from WWII?

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Think, GLP...

Was Patton right all along ...
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[link to twofilms.tv (secure)]

[link to der-fuehrer.org]

[link to www.fpp.co.uk]

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[link to www.jrbooksonline.com]

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Come back in a few weeks, when you've finished learning and then voice you're opinion on Adolph Hitler.
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Who REALLY engineered/created WWII?

Who benefitted the most from WWII?

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Think, GLP...

Was Patton right all along ... (circa May 1945-onward)
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No, they aren't. People want the record of a very complicated period in history set straight.
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Absolutely.

Well said.
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Oh well, what can we say?
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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Are you SERIOUSLY telling us that you would have preferred a Nazi and Hitler victory?

Really??
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Well, while I am of the opinion that the US should have never entered that damn war (my dad fought there) and I do think it would have been better had Germany won, Germany DID do terrible things because of that admiration for British colonialism and that idiotic Lebensraum. Had Germany never invaded anyone else and just continued the amazing improvements in Germany, there would have been no war. Have you ever read anything Hitler said about the Slavs? He wanted to colonize their lands and put them in service to Germany. He saw them as practically subhuman. He made some fairly good points about them (Russians) being backward peasants whose lives and living conditions would actually be improved by German administration and cultural influences but he chose to conquer by force rather than win people over by example and that led to the destruction of Nazi Germany and an ungodly number of people, in Germany and beyond. It was the desire for empire and taking by force that was their downfall and resulted in the commies taking half of Europe.
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All propaganda. Germany was anti-colonial and wanted back the lands which were historically always German. The finance world declared war on Germany because there is no room for a skim when a sovereign engages in direct barter.
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No, it's not propaganda (what I wrote). You can also see by my post that you quoted that I found a lot to admire in Nazi Germany. However, it's not black or white. There was a lot of black and grey and the Nazis did some terrible things. Hitler most certainly wanted to colonize Slavic lands such as western Russia and Ukraine and settle them with Germans overseeing Slavic labor. He saw that as a benefit for Germany (products for the Reich) and something that would uplift the colonized Slavs. Those not needed for work were intended to be deported to Siberia. While so many Russians suffered under communism, they did NOT want to be colonized by Germans and a hatred against the Nazis exists to this day because of the invasion of the USSR. My position is that Germany could have led by example by staying within their own borders and making Germany a spectacular model. Being that that National Socialism was both socialist and collectivist, such an example could have won over those enslaved by communism but who still related to socialism and collectivism (very European ideologies, unlike the US). It's foolish, no matter how you admire anyone, to be blind to their mistakes and evil that exist(ed) along with what was good or extraordinary. The Nazis embodied the full spectrum.
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Perhaps you can mention what the "terrible" things the Germans did? And while you're at it, since you seem to know a lot about WW2, maybe you could also mention the "terrible" things the Polish, Russian, and Americans did.

Now, as for Lebensraum. Its true that Germany had plans for a greater living space for Germany. He did say certain things about the Slavs, the Mongolian type, later he was to recant on his comments regarding the majority of the Russians, as he later found out about them from close associates and adjutants.

You do realize that there were hundreds of thousands, if not millions of other men from other nations, including Russia, who helped the Germans in the Wehrmacht and SS divisions ,fighting Bolshevism.

I think many of the millions of Russians would have had much better lives under Germany, than they did under Stalin and those before him.

This is why so many of them greeted the Germans, housed and feed them, when the arrived.

I could go on and on here but I think this should suffice for the time being. If you want to learn more about, you can find out more. Read some books, and watch some films.

You can start here.

www.twofilms.tv
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You're arguing with someone who mostly agrees with you. I simply don't see things in black and white (I mentioned a millions Germans being killed AFTER the war and the Eisenhower camps). Yes, I know that many welcomed the Germans and AFAIC, NOTHING approached the scourge of communism and the atrocities of the Bolsheviks. That doesn't mean that I'm not going to acknowledge terrible acts by the other side. Please show me any war where atrocities weren't committed by everyone. And, while I loathe communism, if you were a partisan and had family killed by the opposition, do you not realize your perspective would be different? That's all I'm saying. Invading other countries is wrong and, in this case, it unleashed hell on Germany and the German people. In spite of the great achievements made in such a short period, doom was the result and it was because of wrong actions. I'm not even talking about the concentration camps, btw, and I'm a holocaust denier.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.