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over 50k germans were murdered by communists in poland the month following hitler invading in 1939.
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Let me guess, you are so ignorant you don't even realize Poland wasn't communist?

Hitler was at war with J-ish bolshevism, which murdered tens of millions in eastern europe before ww2 started.
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By the time of WWII most of the Bolsheviks were gone from the Soviet Union due to Stalin's purges. And since communism is anti-religion it is always a sign of a stupid person when they say things like J-ish Bolshevikism.

Hitler made numerous peace offers with the allies, which were all rejected.
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Not true, but it really wouldn't matter as Hitler showed the world if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean jack shit. British PM Neville Chamberlain met with Hitler and Munich and came away with the Munich Agreement where Germany was given the Sudetenland portion of Czechoslovakia (which had never been part of Germany) in exchange for Hitler's word that Germany had no more territorial ambitions in Europe. Of course 6 months later the German army rolled into the rest of Czechoslovakia. And just 6 months after that Germany invaded Poland starting WWII.

No peace offers were rejected because no one trusted Hitler enough even to consider anything he offered.

invasion of russia was a preemptive strike.
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Surprise, that isn't true either. LOL The Soviet Union was in no shape to attack Germany. The Red Army had invaded Finland and pretty much gotten their asses kicked with Finland only making peace when they were about out of ammo.


Why is it neoNazis are so fucking stupid?
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Every sees right through your second rate pil-pul tard sophistry A.
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The human race has never fought a just war in the history of it's existence.
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The CSA did in the 1860's.
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Amen
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Please read this quote, taken from the book, I know these dictators. G Ward Price was a guest of Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini many years before war broke out.

The is what Adolph Hitler said.
Page 100
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[link to der-fuehrer.org]
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“ I am no new advocate of an Anglo-German understanding. In Germany I have made
between four and five thousand speeches to small, large, and mammoth audiences, yet there is
no single speech of mine, nor any line that I have written, in which I have expressed anything
contrary to this conception, or against an Anglo-German understanding.
“ So far as I am concerned, the world may reproach me with what it will; one reproach,
however, it can never make-that I have vacillated in my views or been unfaithful in my work.
Had an unknown man with such defects set himself to win a nation in fifteen years, he could
never have succeeded. This perhaps is the basis of what may, to many, seem the exaggerated
faith inspired by my personality. I believe that my consistent mental attitude, my invariable
principles, and my unshakable resolution will in the end succeed in enabling me to play a
great and historical part towards the re-establishment of sound and permanent relations
between the two great Germanic nations.
“ Such an agreement between England and Germany would represent the weighty
influence for peace and common sense of 120,000,000 of the most valuable people in the
world. The historically unique colonial aptitude and the naval power of Britain would be
combined with that of one of the first military nations of the world. If this under- standing
could be still further enlarged by the adhesion of the American nation, it would be absolutely
impossible to see who in the world could disturb a combination for peace which would never,
of set purpose or intent, neglect the interests of the white peoples.

 Quoting: The Acute Misanthropist 77732315


Well, while I am of the opinion that the US should have never entered that damn war (my dad fought there) and I do think it would have been better had Germany won, Germany DID do terrible things because of that admiration for British colonialism and that idiotic Lebensraum. Had Germany never invaded anyone else and just continued the amazing improvements in Germany, there would have been no war. Have you ever read anything Hitler said about the Slavs? He wanted to colonize their lands and put them in service to Germany. He saw them as practically subhuman. He made some fairly good points about them (Russians) being backward peasants whose lives and living conditions would actually be improved by German administration and cultural influences but he chose to conquer by force rather than win people over by example and that led to the destruction of Nazi Germany and an ungodly number of people, in Germany and beyond. It was the desire for empire and taking by force that was their downfall and resulted in the commies taking half of Europe.
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All propaganda. Germany was anti-colonial and wanted back the lands which were historically always German. The finance world declared war on Germany because there is no room for a skim when a sovereign engages in direct barter.
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Germany tried to tell the world how it was gonna be - others pushed back. Doesn't sound like propaganda but then again you have skewered eyes to facts.
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I downloaded that clip. The music in the background is good.

Germans could have caused much more harm to Normandy landings if they had moved their panzers earlier to good positions from the reserve.

The invasion of England in the early stages of the war could have given an advantage for Germans to control the Atlantic.

How would WW III had ended if Germany would have mass produced the air superiority fighter that they cancelled.
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The building of More U-boats and the relocation of those already stationed in the Norwegian sea, back into the Atlantic, in the early stages of the war 1940-1943 would have stopped any invasion of France, and more than likely would have made Britain surrender, as no goods would have made it to the Island.
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It wouldn't have helped. The balance of power was changing as Allied ships sunk declined and U-boats sunk increased. May 1943 was known as "Black May" because Germany lost 25% of their operational U-boats in just that one month. There were simply too many Allied ships and aircraft patrolling and the Allies were sinking U-boats faster than they could be built.

On the other hand the British blockade of Germany was very successful and just like in WWI Germany with few natural resources struggled.
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Like I stated, Before 1943. It could have been over by then.
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Not to mention the fact the Blitzkrieg across all of Europe and into Northern Africa, in two years, definitely made some of those mighty men, very tired. Plus, two brutally cold , harsh Russian winters played a pivotal role in their demise. Adolph should have really thought it over, but he knew time was not on their side and Bolshevism wasn't going to wait.
 Quoting: The Acute Misanthropist 77732315


Hitler was really his own worst enemy. He had the Allies by the balls at Dunkirk but let them go, according to Martin Bormann, because he felt a kinship with their superior genetic upbringing. Hitler actually admired Britain and did not want war with them. As the situation progressed, German patriots like Rommel came to realize that Hitler was a greater threat to Germany than the Allies. Hitler's fundamental mistake was conjuring up Germanic Paganism as an answer to the horrific conditions facing Germany following Versailles.
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It was a fatal military blunder at Dunkirk. They came back against Germans at the beaches of Normandy in 1944. It might have been a gracious gesture by Hitler to let them slip but it was naive. You can not do that in war, if you want to win the war.
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The myth is often repeated, but Hitler's Halt Order only applied to the German tanks which needed maintenance after their journey fighting from Germany to the English Channel. The Luftwaffe continued to attack the Dunkirk pocket nonstop and Hitler's Halt Order was only from May 24-26 1940. Everyone including General Gort thought the BEF at Dunkirk was doomed.
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You watch too many movies.
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The myth is often repeated, but Hitler's Halt Order only applied to the German tanks which needed maintenance after their journey fighting from Germany to the English Channel. The Luftwaffe continued to attack the Dunkirk pocket nonstop and Hitler's Halt Order was only from May 24-26 1940. Everyone including General Gort thought the BEF at Dunkirk was doomed.
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You watch too many movies.
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You should try reading and learning about this subject if you are interested.
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What was done to the German people from WWI until well
after WWII was genocide (aka the real holocaust) that benefitted only one group, yep. The “you know whos”...
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"The Red Army had invaded Finland and pretty much gotten their asses kicked with Finland only making peace when they were about out of ammo."

Finland was never invaded by the Soviet Union.

Neither after the Winter War in 1940 nor after the massive Soviet summer offensive in 1944.

The peace treaties were harsh after both wars. Finland had to cede Karelia and border areas to the Soviet Union but Finland was never invaded.

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[link to twofilms.tv (secure)]

[link to der-fuehrer.org]

[link to www.fpp.co.uk]

[link to archive.org (secure)]

[link to www.jrbooksonline.com]

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Come back in a few weeks, when you've finished learning and then voice you're opinion on Adolph Hitler.
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The myth is often repeated, but Hitler's Halt Order only applied to the German tanks which needed maintenance after their journey fighting from Germany to the English Channel. The Luftwaffe continued to attack the Dunkirk pocket nonstop and Hitler's Halt Order was only from May 24-26 1940. Everyone including General Gort thought the BEF at Dunkirk was doomed.
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You watch too many movies.
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You should try reading and learning about this subject if you are interested.
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putin
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"The Red Army had invaded Finland and pretty much gotten their asses kicked with Finland only making peace when they were about out of ammo."

Finland was never invaded by the Soviet Union.

Neither after the Winter War in 1940 nor after the massive Soviet summer offensive in 1944.

The peace treaties were harsh after both wars. Finland had to cede Karelia and border areas to the Soviet Union but Finland was never invaded.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: CFF 72818801


Actually the Red Army invaded on a broad front crossing the border into Finland on November 30, 1939.

Since you provided a Wiki image check this one:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Most of the battles in the Winter war were fought on Finnish territory. Examples are the Battle of Suomussalmi, the Battle of Raate Road and the Battle of Kollaa... all of which were Finnish victories. Finland won most battles in the Winter War but lost the war due to running low on ammo while facing the overwhelming strength of the Red Army.
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[link to twofilms.tv (secure)]

[link to der-fuehrer.org]

[link to www.fpp.co.uk]

[link to archive.org (secure)]

[link to www.jrbooksonline.com]

[link to archive.org (secure)]


Come back in a few weeks, when you've finished learning and then voice you're opinion on Adolph Hitler.
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Ahh.. now I understand why you are so fucking clueless. You have been force feeding yourself neoNazi propaganda! Dude expand your horizons and read something not written by cucks who worship the little shitstain with the funny mustache.
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[link to twofilms.tv (secure)]

[link to der-fuehrer.org]

[link to www.fpp.co.uk]

[link to archive.org (secure)]

[link to www.jrbooksonline.com]

[link to archive.org (secure)]


Come back in a few weeks, when you've finished learning and then voice you're opinion on Adolph Hitler.
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Ahh.. now I understand why you are so fucking clueless. You have been force feeding yourself neoNazi propaganda! Dude expand your horizons and read something not written by cucks who worship the little shitstain with the funny mustache.
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Written by Cucks?

putin
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[link to twofilms.tv (secure)]

[link to der-fuehrer.org]

[link to www.fpp.co.uk]

[link to archive.org (secure)]

[link to www.jrbooksonline.com]

[link to archive.org (secure)]


Come back in a few weeks, when you've finished learning and then voice you're opinion on Adolph Hitler.
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Ahh.. now I understand why you are so fucking clueless. You have been force feeding yourself neoNazi propaganda! Dude expand your horizons and read something not written by cucks who worship the little shitstain with the funny mustache.
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Written by Cucks?

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Language barrier?

Look, you have provided PDFs from two 1930s propaganda books that came from Joseph Goebbels Ministry of Propaganda. Germany's Hitler was put out just a year after the Nazis seized power in Germany and is probably the least authentic thing ever written about the man. You have a link to David Irving's website, a man who has lied about Adolf Hitler so much there is actually a book about Irving titled "Lying About Hitler".

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

And that mind numbing 6 hour propaganda video at the top of your list? My bet is most of you Hitler fanboys probably switch over to your gay porn videos long before the 30 minute mark.

Dc-FacTs
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I downloaded that clip. The music in the background is good.

Germans could have caused much more harm to Normandy landings if they had moved their panzers earlier to good positions from the reserve.

The invasion of England in the early stages of the war could have given an advantage for Germans to control the Atlantic.

How would WW III had ended if Germany would have mass produced the air superiority fighter that they cancelled.
 Quoting: CFF 72818801


The building of More U-boats and the relocation of those already stationed in the Norwegian sea, back into the Atlantic, in the early stages of the war 1940-1943 would have stopped any invasion of France, and more than likely would have made Britain surrender, as no goods would have made it to the Island.
 Quoting: The Acute Misanthropist 77732315


It wouldn't have helped. The balance of power was changing as Allied ships sunk declined and U-boats sunk increased. May 1943 was known as "Black May" because Germany lost 25% of their operational U-boats in just that one month. There were simply too many Allied ships and aircraft patrolling and the Allies were sinking U-boats faster than they could be built.

On the other hand the British blockade of Germany was very successful and just like in WWI Germany with few natural resources struggled.
 Quoting: Educated Redneck


Like I stated, Before 1943. It could have been over by then.
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No, it couldn't. By the end of 1941 Germany was doomed. They had invaded the massive Soviet Union and even though they dominated on the battlefield the Soviets kept on fighting. Then just as Germany was suffering defeat in the Battle of Moscow the little dummkopf with the funny mustache declared war on the United States. From that point on Germany was doomed. They were still in a dominant position controlling virtually all of Europe at that point but there simply wasn't a scenario where Germany could win. The Soviet Union was too large and too far from Germany and was a meat grinder for the Wehrmacht. And with the industrial capacity and naval forces of the United States Germany simply couldn't win.
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The building of More U-boats and the relocation of those already stationed in the Norwegian sea, back into the Atlantic, in the early stages of the war 1940-1943 would have stopped any invasion of France, and more than likely would have made Britain surrender, as no goods would have made it to the Island.
 Quoting: The Acute Misanthropist 77732315


It wouldn't have helped. The balance of power was changing as Allied ships sunk declined and U-boats sunk increased. May 1943 was known as "Black May" because Germany lost 25% of their operational U-boats in just that one month. There were simply too many Allied ships and aircraft patrolling and the Allies were sinking U-boats faster than they could be built.

On the other hand the British blockade of Germany was very successful and just like in WWI Germany with few natural resources struggled.
 Quoting: Educated Redneck


Like I stated, Before 1943. It could have been over by then.
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No, it couldn't. By the end of 1941 Germany was doomed. They had invaded the massive Soviet Union and even though they dominated on the battlefield the Soviets kept on fighting. Then just as Germany was suffering defeat in the Battle of Moscow the little dummkopf with the funny mustache declared war on the United States. From that point on Germany was doomed. They were still in a dominant position controlling virtually all of Europe at that point but there simply wasn't a scenario where Germany could win. The Soviet Union was too large and too far from Germany and was a meat grinder for the Wehrmacht. And with the industrial capacity and naval forces of the United States Germany simply couldn't win.
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trump-HRYK
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Right on the money; the original poster did state irrefutable facts. Who invaded Poland, France the Soviet Union, and committed the acts and horrible atrocities the original poster and others have pointed out? That would be Hitler's Nazi Germany. And who declared war on the United States on December 11, 1941? That would be Hitler's Nazi Germany. So the US should not have fought Nazi Germany in WW II because it was "the best that Europe and the white race had to offer" - original post - is as ridiculous as it sounds given the facts.

Hitler is one of the most evil tyrants and his Nazi Germany is one of the most evil regimes in the history of the world, and both got exactly what they deserved.
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over 50k germans were murdered by communists in poland the month following hitler invading in 1939.

Hitler didnt declare war on the allies, France and UK declared war on germany over poland but not russia even though they invaded poland too, and then handed poland over to the communists after the war.

Hitler was at war with J-ish bolshevism, which murdered tens of millions in eastern europe before ww2 started.

Hitler made numerous peace offers with the allies, which were all rejected.

invasion of russia was a preemptive strike.

US was sending billions of aid to UK and Russia to fight against germany, thus declaration of war.

oh yeah and the holocaust is a lie
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Germany declares war on the US and the US should ally with Germany; trust the words of a madman (Hitler) and a holocaust denier; says it all.
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Germany declared war on the US because of the Tripartate pact they had with Japan. Now you know why the FDR administration allowed Pearl Harbor to be attacked.
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You sir are clueless. The Tripartite Pact only committed Germany to aid Japan if Japan was attacked. That didn’t happen. Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor so Germany was not required to declare war on the US.
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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I’m calling bullshit on OP. One of my uncles was in Patton’s 3rd army and until he died he stayed in touch with a French guy who they liberated from the Nazis. OP’s story sounds like made up bullshit.
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Germany declares war on the US and the US should ally with Germany; trust the words of a madman (Hitler) and a holocaust denier; says it all.
 Quoting: NILAW


Germany declared war on the US because of the Tripartate pact they had with Japan. Now you know why the FDR administration allowed Pearl Harbor to be attacked.
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What was the reason for the rise of Hitler ?

Germany's loss of colonial territories, as a result of the Versailles treaty from june 28, 1919, in Africa alone 1/3 the size of USA or 10 times the size of present day Germany.
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Well, the outcome of WW2 was fantastic for the colonized peoples of Asia and Africa. It is not by accident that India got independent in 1947, 2 years after the end of WW2. Other Asian countries were liberated from European colonialism few years earlier by Japan. About a decade later after WW2 Africa got decolonized. Asians and Africans benefited from the outcome of WW2. USA too, that became a superpower and gained control over the global economy and the global reserve currency.
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Those guys would still be colonized today or worse.
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"The Red Army had invaded Finland and pretty much gotten their asses kicked with Finland only making peace when they were about out of ammo."

Finland was never invaded by the Soviet Union.

Neither after the Winter War in 1940 nor after the massive Soviet summer offensive in 1944.

The peace treaties were harsh after both wars. Finland had to cede Karelia and border areas to the Soviet Union but Finland was never invaded.

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Actually the Red Army invaded on a broad front crossing the border into Finland on November 30, 1939.

Since you provided a Wiki image check this one:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Most of the battles in the Winter war were fought on Finnish territory. Examples are the Battle of Suomussalmi, the Battle of Raate Road and the Battle of Kollaa... all of which were Finnish victories. Finland won most battles in the Winter War but lost the war due to running low on ammo while facing the overwhelming strength of the Red Army.
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You use the word invasion in a deceptive way.

Finland was actually one of the few countries that were not invaded during WWII.

With invasion we generally understand that the country is overrun and taken over by the enemy.

For example Poland was invaded in WWII.

Finland was not invaded. Soviet Union tried twice to invade Finland (second attempt with material help of USA), but their attack, their attempt to invade Finland was halted by the Finnish Army. And we are thankful to Germany that gave Finland much needed antitank weapons and provided other support.
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Germany vs Soviets ALONE: Who would have won?

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"The Red Army had invaded Finland and pretty much gotten their asses kicked with Finland only making peace when they were about out of ammo."

Finland was never invaded by the Soviet Union.

Neither after the Winter War in 1940 nor after the massive Soviet summer offensive in 1944.

The peace treaties were harsh after both wars. Finland had to cede Karelia and border areas to the Soviet Union but Finland was never invaded.

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 Quoting: CFF 72818801


Actually the Red Army invaded on a broad front crossing the border into Finland on November 30, 1939.

Since you provided a Wiki image check this one:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Most of the battles in the Winter war were fought on Finnish territory. Examples are the Battle of Suomussalmi, the Battle of Raate Road and the Battle of Kollaa... all of which were Finnish victories. Finland won most battles in the Winter War but lost the war due to running low on ammo while facing the overwhelming strength of the Red Army.
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You use the word invasion in a deceptive way.

Finland was actually one of the few countries that were not invaded during WWII.

With invasion we generally understand that the country is overrun and taken over by the enemy.

For example Poland was invaded in WWII.

Finland was not invaded. Soviet Union tried twice to invade Finland (second attempt with material help of USA), but their attack, their attempt to invade Finland was halted by the Finnish Army. And we are thankful to Germany that gave Finland much needed antitank weapons and provided other support.
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I think it is a language barrier, because in English an invasion is when a military force crosses the border into another nation. The Soviet Union invaded Finland during the Winter War in 1939 and then again in 1944. Both times Finnish troops stopped the Red Army and both times Finland was forced to give up territory.

I believe you are confusing invasion with occupation. Poland was invaded and occupied by foreign troops. Finland was invaded but was able to prevent total defeat although they were forced to give up territory. Twice.

And I'm sure you are aware the Finnish army then fought the Germans who were unwilling to leave Finland in the Lapland War.
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Germany vs Soviets ALONE: Who would have won?


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That is a pretty bad video, mainly because of the computer generated voice. But if Germany had been able fight the Soviet Union one on one I agree they could have beaten them. But for that to happen someone would have had to kill Hitler before 1938. Because after Hitler signed the Munich Agreement and then violated it within 6 months there is no way Britain agrees to peace with Germany. Adolf Hitler was a liar and how many times do you make a deal with with a liar that doesn't honor the agreements they make.

And without that little shitstain it is probable that WWII could have been avoided altogether. But with Hitler as Fuhrer Germany never gets the opportunity to fight the Soviets one on one. Never, Hitler is the one who had Germany isolated and alone with only a few weak countries on his side. And none of them could provide the oil and other natural resources Germany needed to fight the war.

NeoNazis and Hitler fanboys hate Churchill for standing up to Hitler but he would have been a fool make peace with Germany with Hitler as its leader. And without the British blockade Germany could import the resources they needed. But just as in WWI the British blockade deprived Germany of the raw materials required for war and the British were the deciding factor in the war.
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"And I'm sure you are aware the Finnish army then fought the Germans who were unwilling to leave Finland in the Lapland War."

Finland received much needed weapons from Germany. The mutual understanding between Germany and Finland was that this military help was given to Finland on terms that Finland would not conclude a separate armistice with the Soviet Union. The president of Finland(Risto Ryti) was bound by the agreement. But it was not binding the Parliament. Eventually Finland concluded a separate armistice with the Soviet Union in 1944, much to Germanys disappointment. They felt betrayed. Finland and Germany were brothers in arms in 1941-1944.
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Germany vs Soviets ALONE: Who would have won?


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That is a pretty bad video, mainly because of the computer generated voice. But if Germany had been able fight the Soviet Union one on one I agree they could have beaten them. But for that to happen someone would have had to kill Hitler before 1938. Because after Hitler signed the Munich Agreement and then violated it within 6 months there is no way Britain agrees to peace with Germany. Adolf Hitler was a liar and how many times do you make a deal with with a liar that doesn't honor the agreements they make.

And without that little shitstain it is probable that WWII could have been avoided altogether. But with Hitler as Fuhrer Germany never gets the opportunity to fight the Soviets one on one. Never, Hitler is the one who had Germany isolated and alone with only a few weak countries on his side. And none of them could provide the oil and other natural resources Germany needed to fight the war.

NeoNazis and Hitler fanboys hate Churchill for standing up to Hitler but he would have been a fool make peace with Germany with Hitler as its leader. And without the British blockade Germany could import the resources they needed. But just as in WWI the British blockade deprived Germany of the raw materials required for war and the British were the deciding factor in the war.
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The video is actually quite good. Its very difficult to find good material of WWII on youtube because so much has been censored.

We dont know what really would have happened if there would have been someone else instead of Churchill. Without Churchill Germany probably would have decided the fate of Europe.

If Germany would have succesfully invaded and occupied England this could have given the keys to victory for Germany. The question is how would Soviet Union and US have reacted if Germany would have been able to invade and occupy England. US probably would not have interfered, atleast not in 1940. Would there have been enough time to regroup and for buildup of forces for Germany. To transport German troops to the eastern border.

Im not concerned about nazis or neonazis. Im concerned about communists.
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"And I'm sure you are aware the Finnish army then fought the Germans who were unwilling to leave Finland in the Lapland War."

Finland received much needed weapons from Germany. The mutual understanding between Germany and Finland was that this military help was given to Finland on terms that Finland would not conclude a separate armistice with the Soviet Union. The president of Finland(Risto Ryti) was bound by the agreement. But it was not binding the Parliament. Eventually Finland concluded a separate armistice with the Soviet Union in 1944, much to Germanys disappointment. They felt betrayed. Finland and Germany were brothers in arms in 1941-1944.
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Well to be fair by the fall of 1944 it was clear that Germany would soon lose the war. Italy had already surrendered and the Red Army had destroyed Army Group Center and the Siege of Leningrad had ended.

I do find it odd that you would consider Germany and Finland "brothers in arms". Finland had only pushed the Soviets back to the original borders and didn't support Germany on the Eastern Front like Romania and Hungary did. The Finns pretty much stayed in Finland. Also in the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact Germany had agreed that Finland was in the communist Soviet sphere of influence green lighting the Soviet invasion in the Winter War.

As far as treaties, Germany had failed to honor any of their agreements so there was no reason for Finland to feel as if they were betraying Germany. Just ask the Poles, Chechs, British or Soviets who all had treaties with Germany, none of which Germany honored.

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Germany vs Soviets ALONE: Who would have won?


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That is a pretty bad video, mainly because of the computer generated voice. But if Germany had been able fight the Soviet Union one on one I agree they could have beaten them. But for that to happen someone would have had to kill Hitler before 1938. Because after Hitler signed the Munich Agreement and then violated it within 6 months there is no way Britain agrees to peace with Germany. Adolf Hitler was a liar and how many times do you make a deal with with a liar that doesn't honor the agreements they make.

And without that little shitstain it is probable that WWII could have been avoided altogether. But with Hitler as Fuhrer Germany never gets the opportunity to fight the Soviets one on one. Never, Hitler is the one who had Germany isolated and alone with only a few weak countries on his side. And none of them could provide the oil and other natural resources Germany needed to fight the war.

NeoNazis and Hitler fanboys hate Churchill for standing up to Hitler but he would have been a fool make peace with Germany with Hitler as its leader. And without the British blockade Germany could import the resources they needed. But just as in WWI the British blockade deprived Germany of the raw materials required for war and the British were the deciding factor in the war.
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The video is actually quite good. Its very difficult to find good material of WWII on youtube because so much has been censored.

We dont know what really would have happened if there would have been someone else instead of Churchill. Without Churchill Germany probably would have decided the fate of Europe.

If Germany would have succesfully invaded and occupied England this could have given the keys to victory for Germany. The question is how would Soviet Union and US have reacted if Germany would have been able to invade and occupy England. US probably would not have interfered, atleast not in 1940. Would there have been enough time to regroup and for buildup of forces for Germany. To transport German troops to the eastern border.

Im not concerned about nazis or neonazis. Im concerned about communists.
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Finland was caught between Nazis and Communists during WWII which in the states we would call stuck between a rock and a hard place.

One of my favorite sources for WWII info is the Axis History Forum. They have a "What if" board that is full of intelligent people debating these type of questions:

[link to forum.axishistory.com (secure)]

Much better that a computer generated voice reading a neoNazi's version of history.
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"I do find it odd that you would consider Germany and Finland "brothers in arms". Finland had only pushed the Soviets back to the original borders and didn't support Germany on the Eastern Front like Romania and Hungary did. The Finns pretty much stayed in Finland. Also in the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact Germany had agreed that Finland was in the communist Soviet sphere of influence green lighting the Soviet invasion in the Winter War."

Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was essentially for both Germany and Soviet Union to win time. Germany had their sights on Soviet Union already, but were not militarily strong enough at the time when the pact was signed.

According to the book "In the eye of the storm" that is based on Mannerheims secret files, it was Hitlers ultimatum against Soviet Union in 1940 that stopped the Red Army from eventually invading Finland. Finland as you well know as you mentioned earlier, fighting alone, almost out of ammo and the troops were exhausted.

So what force deterred Stalin from occupying Finland? According to this book it was Hitlers ultimatum that saved Finland in the last minute.

The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact didnt mean a thing anymore in 1941 when operation Barbarossa commenced.

The operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike or move against the Soviet Union. If it werent for Germany, there would not have been anything to stop Soviet Union from invading and occupying most of mainland Europe.
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"Finland was caught between Nazis and Communists during WWII which in the states we would call stuck between a rock and a hard place."

There was not much to choose from. It was a life and death struggle for Finland.

US chose to give aid and comfort to the bastion of communism, the Soviet Union.
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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Interesting click bait. If your father served late lets say 1942 at 18 that and he returned home in 1946 that would make and had you around 1950 that would make you 69 years old. Are your 69?
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You found me out!! If it comes down to spending time on GLP or time with the old lady, I'll be here on GLP everytime.