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Normandy, 1944: when men were men; incredible footage taken from the German side
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"I do find it odd that you would consider Germany and Finland "brothers in arms". Finland had only pushed the Soviets back to the original borders and didn't support Germany on the Eastern Front like Romania and Hungary did. The Finns pretty much stayed in Finland. Also in the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact Germany had agreed that Finland was in the communist Soviet sphere of influence green lighting the Soviet invasion in the Winter War."
Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was essentially for both Germany and Soviet Union to win time. Germany had their sights on Soviet Union already, but were not militarily strong enough at the time when the pact was signed.
Quoting: CFF 72818801 Well sure, Hitler never honored any of the deals he made and had written about Lebensraum to the East in Mein Kampf. But at the time of the Winter War the Soviet Union was Germany's main trading partner so Germany needed the shipments of oil and grain and other natural resources from the Soviets. According to the book "In the eye of the storm" that is based on Mannerheims secret files, it was Hitlers ultimatum against Soviet Union in 1940 that stopped the Red Army from eventually invading Finland. Finland as you well know as you mentioned earlier, fighting alone, almost out of ammo and the troops were exhausted.
So what force deterred Stalin from occupying Finland? According to this book it was Hitlers ultimatum that saved Finland in the last minute.
Quoting: CFF 72818801 So according to this theory Hitler gave an ultimatum to the Soviet Union about Finland just months after signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which placed Finland in the Soviet Union's sphere of influence???? That sounds a bit far fetched. The Soviet Union had demanded territorial concessions and in the end Finland had to give up more territory that they originally asked for. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact didnt mean a thing anymore in 1941 when operation Barbarossa commenced.
The operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike or move against the Soviet Union. If it werent for Germany, there would not have been anything to stop Soviet Union from invading and occupying most of mainland Europe.
Quoting: CFF 72818801 Wait, you said above "Germany had their sights on Soviet Union already," which is true. Operation Barbarossa was not a preemptive strike but the culmination of a long term plan by Adolf Hitler. During the 1930s as Germany was rearming the western democracies hoped a strong Germany would be a buffer against communism. But Hitler was a fool who managed to start wars both east and west totally isolating Germany. He wanted revenge against France for WWI and living space to the east for the German people. Instead his foolishness caused the deaths of a huge number of Germans and the destruction of Germany along with much of Europe. u remind me of liddle benji shaapiro always arguing against the weakest handpicked bums but you picked your self forms of strawmans to argue against funny stuff man
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