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WWJD?

WJGAF?
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Forever is when?
May you come to recognize me: Dak Noi, Cum Eta, Di Eno, Di Dak--Of the Brotherhood,
Of the Council of the Highest order of the Heavens who have come forth with special purpose,
Of the Light and All, From the Father.
IAMIAM AU DAI PA DAI CUM, OM NI--One that walks in oneness
with the Spirit that is the Spirit which is God and Greater than the Universal.
I AM GERMAIN, in service unto the ONE LIVING GOD.

Since becoming aware of God's Presence within you
is the highest goal any man can attain,
and all can attain it in the measure of their depth of desire
for its attainment--let us get on with HOW-TO and WHY.


Material and objective teaching through the senses do not give "knowledge",
for the senses cannot acquire knowledge.
Intensive reasoning is not intensive thinking, for when people reason
through sensed-observation they are but repeating brain memories.
Any product of man resulting from the assemblage of sensed-memories is not
a creation of the Mind; it is an accumulation of plagiarisms,
such as an automobile and most of your world-products.

These are inventions of generations of sensed-observers and are
forever changing by being added to by others.

Mind-creations of a Shakespeare, a Beethoven or a Leonardo are not made that way.
Creations of the Mind endure.
They cannot be changed or added to by others and yet even those great genius minds
will say that "If they saw further it was because they stood on the shoulders of giants come before them."
...
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Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Forever is when?

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Save a sheep, ride a shepherd. chuckle
Come on over and sit on my lap Shoeshow
and let's talk about this.

Christ knew the Moneychangers all too well.
One day He, understandably, went all "crazy"
on (((them))) in the Temple, the place of worship.
The Key to a Sustainable Economy Is 5,000 Years Old
By Ellen Brown
Global Research, August 31, 2019

We are again reaching the point in the business cycle known as “peak debt,”
when debts have compounded to the point that their cumulative total cannot be paid.
Student debt, credit card debt, auto loans, business debt and
sovereign debt are all higher than they have ever been.
As economist Michael Hudson writes in his provocative 2018 book,
“…and forgive them their debts,” debts that can’t be paid won’t be paid.
The question, he says, is how they won’t be paid.

Mainstream economic models leave this problem to “the invisible hand of the market,”
assuming trends will self-correct over time.
But while the market may indeed correct, it does so at the expense of the debtors,
who become progressively poorer as the rich become richer.
Borrowers go bankrupt and banks foreclose on the collateral,
dispossessing the debtors of their homes and their livelihoods.
The houses are bought by the rich at distress prices and are rented back
at inflated prices to the debtors, who are then forced into wage peonage to survive.
When the banks themselves go bankrupt, the government bails them out.
Thus the market corrects, but not without government intervention.
That intervention just comes at the end of the cycle to rescue the creditors,
whose ability to buy politicians gives them the upper hand.
According to free-market apologists, this is a natural cycle akin to the weather,
which dates all the way back to the birth of modern economics in ancient Greece and Rome.

Hudson counters that those classical societies are not actually where our financial system began,
and that capitalism did not evolve from bartering, as its ideologues assert.
Rather, it devolved from a more functional, sophisticated, egalitarian
credit system that was sustained for two millennia in ancient Mesopotamia
(now parts of Iraq, Turkey, Kuwait and Iran).
Money, banking, accounting and modern business enterprise originated not with gold and private trade,
but in the public sector of Sumer’s palaces and temples in the third century B.C.
Because it involved credit issued by the local government rather than private loans of gold,
bad debts could be periodically forgiven rather than compounding until
they took the whole system down, a critical feature that allowed for its remarkable longevity.

The True Roots of Money and Banking
Sumer was the first civilization for which we have written records.
Its notable achievements included the wheel, the lunar calendar, our numerical system, law codes,
an organized hierarchy of priest-kings, copper tools and weapons, irrigation, accounting and money.
It also produced the first written language, which took the form of cuneiform figures impressed on clay.
These tablets were largely just accounting tools, recording the flow of food
and raw materials in the temple and palace workshops, as well as IOUs
(mainly to these large public institutions) that had to be preserved in writing to be enforced.
This temple accounting system allowed for the coordinated flow of credit to peasant farmers from planting to harvesting,
and for advances to merchants to engage in foreign trade.

In fact, it was the need to manage accounts for a large labor force
under bureaucratic control that is thought to have led to the development of writing.
The people willingly accepted this bureaucratic control
because they viewed the gods as having decreed it. According to their cuneiform writings, humans were created to work
in the fields and the mines after certain lower gods tasked with that hard labor rebelled.


Usury, or the charging of interest on loans, was an accepted part of the Mesopotamian credit system.
Interest rates were high and remained unchanged for two millennia.
But Mesopotamian scholars were well aware of the problem of “debts that can’t be paid.”
Unlike in today’s academic economic curriculum, Hudson writes:
Babylonian scribal students were trained already c. 2000 BC
in the mathematics of compound interest.
Their school exercises asked them to calculate how long it took a debt
at interest of 1/60th per month to double. The answer is 60 months: five years.
How long to quadruple? 10 years. How long to multiply 64 times? 30 years.
It must’ve been obvious that no economy can grow in keeping with this rate of increase.
 Quoting:

Sumerian kings solved the problem of “peak debt” by periodically declaring “clean slates,”
in which agrarian debts were forgiven and debtors were released from
servitude to work as tenants on their own plots of land.
The land belonged to the gods under the stewardship of the temple
and the palace and could not be sold, but farmers and their families
maintained leaseholds to it in perpetuity by providing a share of their crops,
service in the military and labor in building communal infrastructure.
In this way, their homes and livelihoods were preserved, an arrangement
that was mutually beneficial, since the kings needed their service.

J^wish scribes, who spent time in captivity in Babylon in the sixth century B.C,
adapted these laws in the year of jubilee, which Hudson argues was
added to Leviticus after the Babylonian captivity.
According to Leviticus 25:8-13, a Jubilee Year was to be declared every 49 years,
during which debts would be forgiven, slaves and prisoners
freed and their property leaseholds restored.
...(less dan fiddy)
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Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Christ has returned to proclaim the
long overdue "Year of the Lord."
A Debt Jubilee Is the Only Way to Avoid a Depression
By Prof Michael Hudson
Global Research, March 24, 2020
Naked Capitalism March 22, 2020
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com (secure)]

Even before the novel coronavirus appeared, many American families were falling behind
on student loans, auto loans, credit cards and other payments.
America’s debt overhead was pricing its labor and industry out of world markets.
A debt crisis was inevitable eventually, but covid-19 has made it immediate.

Massive social distancing, with its accompanying job losses, stock dives
and huge bailouts to corporations, raises the threat of a depression.
But it doesn’t have to be this way.
History offers us another alternative in such situations: a debt jubilee.
This slate-cleaning, balance-restoring step recognizes the fundamental truth
that when debts grow too large to be paid without reducing debtors to poverty,
the way to hold society together and restore balance is simply to cancel the bad debts.

The word “Jubilee” comes from the Hebrew word for “trumpet” — yobel.
In Mosaic Law, it was blown every 50 years to signal the Year of the Lord,
in which personal debts were to be canceled.
The alternative, the prophet Isaiah warned, was for smallholders
to forfeit their lands to creditors: “Woe to you who add house to house
and join field to field till no space is left and you live alone in the land.”

When Jesus delivered his first sermon, the Gospel of Luke describes him as
unrolling the scroll of Isaiah and announcing that he had come to
proclaim the Year of the Lord, the Jubilee Year.

...(less dan fiddy)
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Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Sharia banks don't charge usury because it
is considered to be gambling, which is a sin.

Covering books with pieces of human skin is too.
Exodus 22:25
If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.

Leviticus 25
36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.

Deuteronomy 23
19 Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:
20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Nehemiah 5:7
Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

Nehemiah 5:10
I likewise, and my brethren, and my servants, might exact of them money and corn: I pray you, let us leave off this usury.

Psalms 15:5
He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.

Proverbs 28:8
He that by usury and unjust gain increaseth his substance, he shall gather it for him that will pity the poor.

Isaiah 24:2
And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

Jeremiah 15:10
Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; yet every one of them doth curse me.

Ezekiel 18:8
He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man,

Ezekiel 18:13
Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.

Ezekiel 18:17
That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.

Ezekiel 22:12
In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.

Matthew 25:27
Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

Luke 19:23
Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

Luke 4
28 And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill
whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.
30 But he passing through the midst of them went his way,
 Quoting: "Some" King's blood-stained book


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Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Sharia banks don't charge usury because it
is considered to be gambling, which is a sin.

Covering books with pieces of human skin is too.
 Quoting: "Some" King's blood-stained book

 Quoting: hillbilly


pushing the stink of hatonn is also a sin. but if you're so hot for sharia banking, then move to the middle east where you can have it.

nobody here wants it or filthy chrislam.
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New York City no interest loans.

The New York City based Hebrew Free Loan Society can provide financing to qualified borrowers.
While some of the programs are offered regardless of religion, others will be focused on certain individuals.
The objective is to help families both obtain and maintain long term self-sufficiency.
So the no interest loans can be used for a variety of reasons, including to pay bills
in an emergency, provide for educational or employment expenses, and more.

While some of the financing is restricted to members of the J^wish community, other loans
may be issued to individuals or families on a non-sectarian basis.
The funds paid out will put people into a better position to obtain
self-sufficiency and help with alleviating a crisis.
...
Such societies are found in 23 states, according to the
International Association of Free J^wish Loans.
Known in Hebrew as gemachim, they provide small loans to
businesses and individuals – and unlike bank loans, they’re interest-free.
Other gemachim, from Philadelphia to Los Angeles, have launched similar
coronavirus response programs to the one in New York, sometimes
raising the caps on loan amounts and lowering the necessary number of guarantors.
(Many acted similarly during the government shutdown last year).
...
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Last Edited by hillbilly on 03/25/2020 11:30 AM
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Defying judges, Knesset speaker has plunged Israel into constitutional anarchy

With its executive in protracted transition, and its judiciary and legislature now deadlocked,
Israel’s governance has broken down during the worst health crisis in memory.
...
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Maybe God is angry at us

The panic corona has created in wealthy countries is an important wake-up call
about the worth of human lives, wherever they are.
...
 Quoting: [link to blogs.timesofisrael.com (secure)]

Israel unemployment rate nears 20% with
some 800,000 registered as out of work

657,876 have signed up as jobless this month, as coronavirus crisis
tightens grip on the economy; further rise expected with announcement of new restrictions
...
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Last Edited by hillbilly on 03/25/2020 11:47 AM
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Is America’s Chinese Wake Up Call
China may be a trading partner. But it is not a friend.
John Moody | March 18, 2020

The worldwide panic over coronavirus has forced us all to
think about how we live, work, do business, and interact.
It might also give us a chance to rectify some serious
lapses of judgment that we, as a country, have made.

For instance, with China’s economy still reeling from the
economic impact of the disease, maybe it’s time for America
to rethink our insane over-dependence on China for everything
from clothes, to computers, to smart-phones, to even the medicines
we need to combat corona—which, despite politically correct howls
to remain mute about it, started in China!
...(less than fiddy)
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When times are tough, Americans can see who our real "friends" are.
And to whom our Government has sold us out during the past century.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 03/25/2020 12:24 PM
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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When times are tough, Americans can see who our real "friends" are.
And to whom our Government has sold us out during the past century.
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fools follow the stink of hatonn, but when times are tough true christians know to take it to the truest friend of all....GOD's only begotten son Jesus.

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Christ has returned
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When times are tough, Americans can see who our real "friends" are.
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Who?

Get a dog.
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Im the OP lets continue





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