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Sorry to tell you that the "god" who
demanded blood sacrifices is not the Father.
Christ told them that as He overturned their tables.
He lived to bring the truth to the people
who were living under tyranny.
 Quoting: hillbilly


That you may know that I, the LORD,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.

I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.


Thus says the LORD,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker


Truly You are God, who hide Yourself,
O God of Israel, the Savior!


For thus says the LORD,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
"I am the LORD, and there is no other.
I have not spoken in secret,
In a dark place of the earth;
I did not say to the seed of Jacob,
'Seek Me in vain';
I, the LORD, speak righteousness,
I declare things that are right.


Who has declared this from ancient time?
Who has told it from that time?
Have not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.

I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
.

He shall say,
'Surely in the LORD I have righteousness and strength.
To Him men shall come,
And all shall be ashamed
Who are incensed against Him
.

In the LORD all the descendants of Israel
Shall be justified, and shall glory.'




Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently;
He shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.

Just as many were astonished at you,
So His visage was marred more than any man,
And His form more than the sons of men;

So shall He sprinkle many nations.
Kings shall shut their mouths at Him;
For what had not been told them they shall see,
And what they had not heard they shall consider.

Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.

He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.

But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

And they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.

He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.

Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.





But Jesus said to him, Follow Me

And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
I do not receive honor from men.
But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.


For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

For I have come down from heaven

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?


I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.

Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.

If you love Me, keep My commandments.

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


These things I command you, that you love one another.
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.


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Better question: Why did He live?
 Quoting: hillbilly

To live a perfect sinless life and die as God's Sacrificial Offering in Atonement for the sin of men by The Lamb of God as Messiah of Israel.
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Just ignore this answer, right?
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You so cowardly accuse Paul of being a homosexual pedophile?!

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Do you claim to be of the Spirit of Truth and serving the God of Truth?

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Just ignore theses questions, right??
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hillbilly,

1. On what basis would you hope or expect, upon your soon arrival at your afterlife, that God should allow you into His Kingdom?

2. Why do you not deserve hell?
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Just ignore these questions, right???

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That you Shoeshow?
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Dislike is not hate.


Christ died because He lived to the ripe old age of 107.

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baloney.

where in GOD's word, the holy bible, does it say that Christ lived to 107?...oh that's right it doesn't.

Christ didn't survive the cross or go to kashmir. that is yet more crap from your faulty sources.

no he didn't live to 107 and no he didn't marry and have kids.

and no, hillbilly is part of some bloodline

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Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is man's all.

For God will bring every work into judgment,
Including every secret thing,
Whether good or evil.



Ecclesiastes 12:13,14
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This.
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Sorry to tell you that the "god" who
demanded blood sacrifices is not the Father.


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not so sorry to tell you that you are WRONG here.
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Always the OT and Paul with you people.
Is that a Catholic thing?
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no, its a truth thing. The OT is just as much GOD's word as the NT. and Paul is just as much one of the apostles as the rest.

urantia and your phoenix journals...and believing that jupiter is a spaceship because your cult leader kandi said so...now that is a stupid thing.
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What is grumpier's intelligence source??
 Quoting: The Natural One
Kinda like Janey's thread (s/he is the source).
You might say he's a man of vision;)
 Quoting: hillbilly


or you might just say he is full of it.

didn't he state that he singlehandedly thwarted armageddon?

then of course there is the spaceship and the plasma pond.

amongst other things
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I don't write them, just relay them.
Fine, you follow Paul.
I'll keep on following his Master.
Your little circles of talking points are boring.

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Water is the only drink for a wise man.
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Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Fine, you follow Paul.

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Paul says Christ.




I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

Paul


But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Je-ws a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
But unto them which are called, both Je-ws and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.


Paul


For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

Paul


But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.


Paul


Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Paul


In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Paul


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast
.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


Paul


That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Paul


For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

Paul


For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


Paul
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Paul preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

hillbilly is anti-Paul.

...



I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

Paul


But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Je-ws a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
But unto them which are called, both Je-ws and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.


Paul


Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

Paul


we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord

Paul


Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Paul


In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Paul


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast
.


Paul


That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Paul


For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

Paul


denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity


Paul
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what is mans purpose on this planet.
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ask God
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I'm well aware what Paul preached.
I have issues with how it differs
from that of Christ Himself.

We are here to learn about Love=God.

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Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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I'm well aware what Paul preached.
 Quoting: hillbilly

Paul preached Jesus Christ.

I have issues with how it differs
from that of Christ Himself.
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

We are here to learn about Love=God.
 Quoting: hillbilly

Jesus Christ is how much God loves you and how far He hs gone to show you
if you are only willing to see and believe Him.
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I'm well aware what Paul preached.
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Paul preached Jesus Christ.

I have issues with how it differs
from that of Christ Himself.
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

We are here to learn about Love=God.
 Quoting: hillbilly

Jesus Christ is how much God loves you and how far He has gone to show you
if you are only willing to see and believe Him.
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I played the part of Him when I was 1 month old.
It was for a Nativity Play at church.
I absolutely believe in His teachings.
He came to heal the sick.
He taught the Disciples to heal.
They continued His work after He left.
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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I played the part of Him when I was 1 month old.
It was for a Nativity Play at church.

I absolutely believe in His teachings.
He came to heal the sick.
He taught the Disciples to heal.
They continued His work after He left.
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we've already discussed how that does NOT make you a christian.

you may believe in his teachings, but you deny him as GOD's only begotten son.

in past posts, you've stated that he was just a prophet...which is the same thing the islamics/krapran push...

you also reject the free gift of salvation through his sacrifice for your sins on that cross. you don't seem to understand what the finished work of the cross even is.

following his teachings isn't the same as believing who he was and is.
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We are here to learn about Love=God.
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like the love you demonstrate for israel and the jevvs?

sorry, but the new-age mantra of "GOD is love and only love" is FALSE.

he is much more than just love. He is also holy and righteous
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God is Love, as opposed to the OT one.
You keep pushing the "only begotten son" and "just a prophet."
Changes absolutely nothing in the message.
Nowhere in Christ's teachings is that phrase mentioned.
It is only important to Paul's narrative.
I'll stick with the Commandments and the Lord's Prayer.
No need to add any words to them.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 06/17/2019 10:36 PM
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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I, the LORD,

Am the God of Israel.

I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.


God of Israel, the Savior

there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.

to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
.



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God is Love, as opposed to the OT one.
You keep pushing the "only begotten son" and "just a prophet."
Changes absolutely nothing in the message.
Nowhere in Christ's teachings is that phrase mentioned.
It is only important to Paul's narrative.
I'll stick with the Commandments and the Lord's Prayer.
No need to add any words to them.
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sorry but the GOD of the OT is the same GOD of the NT. there is only 1 GOD and Jesus is his only begotten son.

cult leader kandi's multiple sons of this and that from urantia and phony journals are not real

No, Paul's writings are important to all. and they are truth.

which of course means krapran and Islam are FALSE.

buddha is FALSE too.

the "all roads/paths lead to the same GOD" mantra told by liberals, new-agers, and non-christians is a LIE. As is phony replacement theology.

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If you do not believe the Old Testament, you have no reason to believe in The Messiah of Israel.
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The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed.

The Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.
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Where Paul differs from Christ's teachings
primarily involves women.
Whose truth do you believe more?
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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If you do not believe the Old Testament, you have no reason to believe in The Messiah of Israel.
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true.
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Where Paul differs from Christ's teachings
primarily involves women.
Whose truth do you believe more?
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give some examples of what you're talking about
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Find your own examples, I'm not your gentile slave.
The Commandments are the most important part of the OT.
The words of Christ himself are all I need from the NT.

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Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran