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Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment

 
Agnes
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07/02/2007 12:09 AM
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Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
I want to share a horrific experience that should serve as a warning to anyone using or considering using binaural beat brainwave entrainment.

I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end. I ended up the other night with convulsions that are still keep coming back. I am still tripping. My pupils are still dialated. I was unable to control the projections from my subconscious (those images and thoughts you see and get while falling asleep) for some time. I keep getting these terrible rushes through my nervous system, and it's not relenting. I am experiencing tremors, sleep disturbances, exhaustion, inability to sleep, mood swings, scattered mind, auditory distortions, hypnogogic hallucinations, and sheer terror. I was extremely scared that I would die.

I issued a warning to the I-Doser forum and it was deleted. I posted another warning and soon after it too was deleted and I was banned. This, needless to point out, is highly suspect. I am still not sure what will happen to my brain and body, if there will be permanent damage, and if I will ever feel quite right again.
Agnes (OP)
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07/02/2007 12:19 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Please everyone, this is extremely serious. I urge you to tell everyone you know not to use this technology.
Rebecca
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07/02/2007 12:22 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Agnes, what is this technology? I will send you healing energy and pray for you if you like.
floydian slip
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07/02/2007 12:23 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
I have it on my pc but have never used it.


Thanks for the warning.


Keep us updated on how you are doing.
floydian slip
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07/02/2007 12:24 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Agnes, what is this technology? I will send you healing energy and pray for you if you like.
 Quoting: Rebecca 260120


ever hear of hemi-sync?

[link to www.monroeinstitute.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Agnes (OP)
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07/02/2007 12:35 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
The technology is binaural beat induced brainwave entrainment. I-Doser is the product that has made me so sick. I was stupid to want to use it, because it attempts to emulate the effects of drugs. I know I was stupid, abused it, and I am ashamed. There were no clear warnings of possible long-term side effects. I had no idea that this could happen. Online, people chirpily promote entrainment as if it were the absolute best and safest thing in the world. I finally found a few reports of adverse effects. Some people experienced symptoms like my own. If you do want to pray for me, you are welcome. I am very desperate and afraid. My body is still convulsing involuntarily and I don't understand what is causing it. It's not like taking real drugs. It programs your brain to recreate those states and I really did myself in by programming too much and the WRONG combination. Please don't use this technology.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 12:39 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end.
 Quoting: Agnes 260148

There's nothing wrong with any holosync, hemisync, bi-audio brainwave enhancement.

You can overdo drinking and start vomiting blood.
This doesn't mean we shouldn't drink a glass or two of red wine every few days.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 12:42 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
I overdid it
hours at a time
days on end

I think the problem may lay somewhere else.
Have another think about it.
code
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07/02/2007 12:49 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Near using Hemi - Sync the real danger exists the stroke of brain. I know such case personally.
Agnes (OP)
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07/02/2007 12:51 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Yes, I know I overdid it, but the point is that it can be overdone, and with horrific results.
Agnes (OP)
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07/02/2007 12:57 AM
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Oh my God. Stroke?! I'm going to lie down and hope the shaking stops now.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 12:57 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Don't know about all your fancy talk, but I do know there are others. They respond to different things than you or I. Maybe your brainwaves, if tuned to a certain frequency, attract them. At any rate, I have been attracting them for several years, and am familiar with the "terror" they bring. My opinion so far is that it is just a sensation, like all others. Relax and experience it.
Leonidas

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07/02/2007 01:28 AM
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Just curious, which "dose file" were you using?
A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again. ~ Alexander Pope
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 01:33 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Involuntary Convulsions? Subconscious projections? Hypnagogic hallucinations? I need to get me some of that shit!!!
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 01:36 AM
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btw mm I knew a guy once who used to use that stuff. He said it could achieve in minutes what otherwise would take years of meditation. Btw I made some binaural beat sound files using Mathematica, is anyone interested in hearing?
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 01:39 AM
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Involuntary Convulsions? Subconscious projections? Hypnagogic hallucinations? I need to get me some of that shit!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258563


That may be the point of OP's post, no? Clever spam...
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 01:41 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Don't know about all your fancy talk, but I do know there are others. They respond to different things than you or I. Maybe your brainwaves, if tuned to a certain frequency, attract them. At any rate, I have been attracting them for several years, and am familiar with the "terror" they bring. My opinion so far is that it is just a sensation, like all others. Relax and experience it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 110407


Yes, "Agnes", if you've really opened a door, all you can do now is face your fears and go with it. Fear is a drug as well...
Xzibit
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07/02/2007 01:44 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
SUP DAWG, WE HEARD YOU LIKE BINAURAL BEATS SO WE PUT TREMORS, SLEEP DISTURBANCES, EXHAUSTION, INABILITY TO SLEEP, MOOD SWINGS, SCATTERED MIND, AUDITORY DISTORTIONS, HYPNOGOGIC HALLUCINATIONS AND SHEER TERROR IN THE GLOVE COMPARTMENT
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 02:23 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
has anyone else tried this not including the OP as he sounds like a spamer to me
Dr. Holistadter
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07/02/2007 02:27 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
BRAINWAVE ENTRAINMENT IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY.

ONLY THE HEALTHY, HAPPY, WHOLESOME, HANDSOME, HOPEFUL, AND HUMOROUS SHOULD SEEK THESE EXPERIENCES.

THIS ELITISM IS TOTALLY SELF-DETERMINED.

UNLESS YOU ARE SELF-CONFIDENT, SELF-DIRECTED, SELF-SELECTED, PLEASE ABSTAIN.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 02:37 AM
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Thanks but you never said if your tried and what you exerinces were, i just bought peyote, i will update you guys if im not dead.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 03:56 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
I tried it and doing it again now, it does something it more or less helps what ever you are mediating on, its no where near the same as taking the drug though, if so i dont know why people take them
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 04:13 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Put some reggae on: that will kick out the jams.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 04:17 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
How ignorant can people be?

Please listen to the op.


DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 04:21 AM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
The OP should be posting a warning about absolute stupidity.

There is nothing unsafe about brainwave entrainment, just like there's nothing unsafe about consuming small amounts of sugar.
Because having too much of anything can be harmful to you.


This is more about the stupidity of the OP, rather than the brainwave programs themselves.
lol
Agnes
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07/02/2007 10:47 AM
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Listen. This happened because I overdid very strong stimulant "dose" files for days, NOT just because I used brainwave entrainment.

Absolute stupidity is RIGHT. I was absolutely stupid in how I abused this technology.

I am NOT promoting entrainment programs. That is the furthest thing from my mind.

I slept it off again but now I am still getting chattery teeth and tense jaw, trembling/convulsing in my legs, shakiness, weakness, slight mental confusion, dialated pupils and rushes like those from drugs running up my spine which WOULD be euphoric but because my brain and body are depleted are horrific.

I didn't come back on yesterday because I seriously did go lie down to sleep.
Agnes
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07/02/2007 02:21 PM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Does anyone know what actually causes these convulsions to continue for so long? What causes the rushes? The dilated pupils? Please help.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 02:27 PM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Agnes, get outside and take a nice walk. Go for a swim. Visit friends. Just try to enjoy life and not think about your unpleasant experience. In a few days you will be OK. Trust me.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 02:31 PM
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the worst thing you can do is worry about what it has done.

just accept the fact it 'may' have done something and get on with your life the best you can.
Agnes
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07/02/2007 02:35 PM
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It's been four days since the onset of the overdose symptoms. I am far too drained to swim or walk. When I do I get over stimulated, full of energy, then the rushes start again, the convulsions, and weakness and exhaustion take over.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2007 02:36 PM
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Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
Have you tried a little weed? It tends to bring things back to equilibrium.