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Could you pass this 8th grade exam from 1895?

 
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Could you pass this 8th grade exam from 1895?
Greetings,

Have a cup of coffee and check out what a grade schooler in 1895 Kansas faced when tested. Daunting to say the least.

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Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could YOU have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas, USA. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.

8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS, 1895

Grammar (Time, one hour)

1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of "lie," "play," and "run."
5. Define case; Illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1:25 hours)

1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4 District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt

U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)

1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.

Orthography (Time, one hour)

1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals.
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final ! 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

Geography (Time, one hour)

1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3 Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.
Gives the saying "He only had an 8th grade education." a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

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In retrospect, the school system from the 1895 Kansas era was nothing much more than small schoolhouses for farm kids, yet those hard working boys and girls could make an average adult today look like a total rube in the classroom and could probably out-work us to boot.

I suspect the educational analogy of the "frog in boiling water" applies over the last century as most folks today think they "got it goin' on" upstairs...

...little do they know.

Honestly, I know I failed the test. In fact, I would need to study my ass off to pass this exam. How about you?

Comments welcome,

chef
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Wow. What happened to education in America?
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Amazing. I doubt many college kids could answer them.
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I'm afraid to say that most American citizens could not answer them.
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The Arithmatic question #9 gave me some trouble, as I couldn't remember how many rods to an acre.

Also, the caret 'u' question. I came up blank on that one.

I probably missed a few things associated with the dates question in US history.

Other than that, I feel I could pass 8th grade.

Of course, I have a slight advantage in that I have actually read some of the old schoolbooks; so I know what school was like back then.

The difference between education then and education now is like night and day.
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Wow. What happened to education in America?
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To answer that question requires homework of its own. John D. Rockefeller would be a great place to start. Quite the humanitarian he was.

"We don't need thinkers, we need workers"
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"How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?"

LOL This question is very relevant today and some of you can answer this.
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"How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?"

LOL This question is very relevant today and some of you can answer this.
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My thought when posting this was to show how young minds were made to think back then. Students today do not face a strict demanding teacher and stern yet loving parents.
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You all realize that the world has seen an enormous leap in knowledge since 1895, don't you. None of the children taking that test knew anything about genetics, antibiotics, the structure of the atom, the age of the universe, several planets, not to mention all the history. It's stupid and inane to try to compare the so-called eighth-grade test. An 8th grader from 1895 couldn't do the algebra, physics, biology or history of any random 8th grade test from 2007.
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You all realize that the world has seen an enormous leap in knowledge since 1895, don't you. None of the children taking that test knew anything about genetics, antibiotics, the structure of the atom, the age of the universe, several planets, not to mention all the history. It's stupid and inane to try to compare the so-called eighth-grade test. An 8th grader from 1895 couldn't do the algebra, physics, biology or history of any random 8th grade test from 2007.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 204901


Apparently you don't have kids in public school. Most Eigth graders couldn't tell you what Algebra is. I doubt 5% could complete the math word problems. Physics? Give me a break.

Live in the real world for a few years, it might help.
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You all realize that the world has seen an enormous leap in knowledge since 1895, don't you. None of the children taking that test knew anything about genetics, antibiotics, the structure of the atom, the age of the universe, several planets, not to mention all the history. It's stupid and inane to try to compare the so-called eighth-grade test. An 8th grader from 1895 couldn't do the algebra, physics, biology or history of any random 8th grade test from 2007.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 204901


What 8th grade are you talking about? The one on the starship enterprise? Physics, in grade school?

Oh, they would definitely have trouble with our modern history, because crystal balls were not common back then.
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Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
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I always wondered this, myself, does anyone know? :) I assume it has something to do with the Gulf Stream?
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You realize this is a documented hoax right?
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One would have to conclude that, based on our current educational system and the irresponsibility of most parents, the smartest generation alive will always be the one getting old and dying.
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You realize this is a documented hoax right?
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Can you link me up scotty?

From what I gather, you can email or talk directly to the "hoaxers" residing in Salina, Kansas.
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You all realize that the world has seen an enormous leap in knowledge since 1895, don't you. None of the children taking that test knew anything about genetics, antibiotics, the structure of the atom, the age of the universe, several planets, not to mention all the history. It's stupid and inane to try to compare the so-called eighth-grade test. An 8th grader from 1895 couldn't do the algebra, physics, biology or history of any random 8th grade test from 2007.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 204901


You do realize that the Arithmatic section is all algabraic/geometry formulae, don't you?

We have had enormous technological advances, but have we advanced mentally? No. Quite the opposite, in fact.

If we had, we should easily be able to answer questions from an education system over 100 years old; as we would have advanced far beyond their mental level.
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You all realize that the world has seen an enormous leap in knowledge since 1895, don't you. None of the children taking that test knew anything about genetics, antibiotics, the structure of the atom, the age of the universe, several planets, not to mention all the history. It's stupid and inane to try to compare the so-called eighth-grade test. An 8th grader from 1895 couldn't do the algebra, physics, biology or history of any random 8th grade test from 2007.


Apparently you don't have kids in public school. Most Eigth graders couldn't tell you what Algebra is. I doubt 5% could complete the math word problems. Physics? Give me a break.

Live in the real world for a few years, it might help.
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Maybe you need to pay higher taxes to improve you local education and get involved in your child's education. Don't be so passive. And I would imagine that the proportion of 8th graders in 1895 would could actuallly pass that exam is less than the proportion of 8th graders who could pass an analagous exam today. You're so naive.
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Ya'll are just lame. THe percetnage of Americans who are literate is much, mcuh higher now than it was in 1895. In 1895 MOST AMERICANS sdi not even go to school to the 8th grade. Yes, our public education system is not as good as other systems in the world TODAY. But don't compare it to 1895. You're all actually showing your ignorance and lack of education by making this STUPID comparison.
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<Maybe you need to pay higher taxes to improve you local education and get involved in your child's education. >

LOL! If I pay any more in "taxes" I am going to loose everything I worked so hard in my life to have! Taxed to Near-Death as it is!
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looks as if some 8th grade posters here got their feelings hurt,LOL!
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In 1895
-- Poor people did not go to school, most could barely sign their name.
-- Gilrs were less likely to go to school than boys.
-- Black people were prohibited from going to school

WAKE UP YOU DINGBATS!! LEARN SOME HISTORY!!!

AMERICAN PUBLIC EDUCATION SUCKS FOR WHAT IT COULD BE. YES, INDEED. BUT IT'S BETTER THAN IT WAS IN 1895!!! AND I GUARANTEE THAT ALL YOU WHINERS OUT THERE DON'T WANT YOUR TAX DOLLARS RAISED ONE PENNY TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION SYSTEM YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT SO BITTERLY. YOU DON'T FIGHT FOR BETTER TEACHER SALARIES, BETTER TEACHER BENEFITS. AND YOU SIT IDLY BY WHILE YOUR GOVERNMENT SPENDS 400 BILLON ON AN ILLEGAL WAR. HYPROCRTIES ALL!!
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Ya'll are just lame. THe percetnage of Americans who are literate is much, mcuh higher now than it was in 1895. In 1895 MOST AMERICANS sdi not even go to school to the 8th grade. Yes, our public education system is not as good as other systems in the world TODAY. But don't compare it to 1895. You're all actually showing your ignorance and lack of education by making this STUPID comparison.
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I would appreciate any link you can provide pertaining to literacy rates then and now.
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looks as if some 8th grade posters here got their feelings hurt,LOL!
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Yeah, the OP and OP's supporters are sure touchy little bastards. Not too smart, either.
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Ya'll are just lame. THe percetnage of Americans who are literate is much, mcuh higher now than it was in 1895. In 1895 MOST AMERICANS sdi not even go to school to the 8th grade. Yes, our public education system is not as good as other systems in the world TODAY. But don't compare it to 1895. You're all actually showing your ignorance and lack of education by making this STUPID comparison.


I would appreciate any link you can provide pertaining to literacy rates then and now.
 Quoting: chef 259429

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You have to actually read a book. Do you know what a book is? A book is generally longer than a Web site homepage. And better researched.
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The point is that education has been on a downward slide from standards that required the student to put forth his best effort to "no child left behind". In 1895 you would not have had graduates who could not read!

Education is not for everybody, but when students want to learn, they are being held back because of "government standards" in education.
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Here's some good info about this test:

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stupid. apples and oranges. why don't you ask someone from 1895 if they could pass an 8th grade exam from 1795? dumbasses.

For example, in 8th grade today:

1. through what process is the sun powered?

2. how does an internal combustion engine work?

3. explain the basic capabilities of a personal computer.

you could go on and on with this.

dipshits.
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Literacy Rates in the United States, by Race, 1870-1979
Total White Black & Other
1870 80.0 88.5 20.1
1880 83.0 90.6 30.0
1890 86.7 92.3 43.2
1900 89.3 93.8 55.5
1910 92.3 95.0 69.5
1920 94.0 96.0 77.0
1930 95.7 97.0 83.6
1940 97.1 98.0 88.5
1952 97.5 98.2 89.8
1959 97.8 98.4 92.5
1969 99.0 99.3 96.4
1979 99.3 99.6 98.4
Source: U.S. Census Bureau. Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970. National Center for Education Statistics. U.S. Department of Education. "Literacy from 1870 to 1979: Illiteracy." National Assessment of Adult Literacy. Retrieved March 21, 2002 from [link to nces.ed.gov] Notes: Data for 1969 and 1979 "Black & Other" include only the rate for Blacks.
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The point is that education has been on a downward slide from standards that required the student to put forth his best effort to "no child left behind". In 1895 you would not have had graduates who could not read!

Education is not for everybody, but when students want to learn, they are being held back because of "government standards" in education.
 Quoting: AniMeyhem! nli 260280


Students aren't learning becasue AMERICANS DON'T WANT TO FUND EDUCATION AT THE LEVELS REQUIRED!!!! Pure and simple.
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In 1895
-- Poor people did not go to school, most could barely sign their name.
-- Gilrs were less likely to go to school than boys.
-- Black people were prohibited from going to school

WAKE UP YOU DINGBATS!! LEARN SOME HISTORY!!!

AMERICAN PUBLIC EDUCATION SUCKS FOR WHAT IT COULD BE. YES, INDEED. BUT IT'S BETTER THAN IT WAS IN 1895!!! AND I GUARANTEE THAT ALL YOU WHINERS OUT THERE DON'T WANT YOUR TAX DOLLARS RAISED ONE PENNY TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION SYSTEM YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT SO BITTERLY. YOU DON'T FIGHT FOR BETTER TEACHER SALARIES, BETTER TEACHER BENEFITS. AND YOU SIT IDLY BY WHILE YOUR GOVERNMENT SPENDS 400 BILLON ON AN ILLEGAL WAR. HYPROCRTIES ALL!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 204901




If anyone needs to go back and do some research, some REAL research, not just parrotting what Hitlary Clinton tells you, you would find that:

By 1895, the vast majority of children went to school.
This included the children of the poor both in cities and in the country. Programs were in place in which young teachers would go into depressed areas and teach for a year or so. One can read of such programs in books like "Christy" and in "Having Our Say", written by the sisters Delany.
Oh, that reminds me. Regarding how "blacks were prohibited from going to school", while they may have been prohibited from attending schools with white children, they most certianly had their own schools. Unlike today, education was prized in the black communities. The Delany sisters, were schooled at one of the top Negro prep schools of the day. Both of their parents taught there and both women could have passed that 8th grade test with ease.
They in turn earned money towards college by enrolling as teachers in a program that brought education to the poor blacks in the deep south.

Oh, and for your information, should you trouble yourself to read other books than those written by the far left, you would see that in reality, GIRLS were more likely to attend grammar school, that's first through tweleve. Boys were more likely to NOT attend at they were needed to help the family make money. In the country, they would be gone for harvest and planting. In the cities and mid size cities, they would have gone to factories.

The only area where boys outnumbered girls was in higher education of college and university levels.

You really do need to get out more.
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The point is that education has been on a downward slide from standards that required the student to put forth his best effort to "no child left behind". In 1895 you would not have had graduates who could not read!

Education is not for everybody, but when students want to learn, they are being held back because of "government standards" in education.


Students aren't learning becasue AMERICANS DON'T WANT TO FUND EDUCATION AT THE LEVELS REQUIRED!!!! Pure and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 204901


Incorrect again. You can fund education all you want; if you lower the standards you will just be pumping out dumber students. In my experience students will learn no matter what the funding level is; there will just be fewer students who excel. The true difference comes in when the parents choose to educate their children, take an active role in their education and require that their child put forth his best efforts.

The point is that when you lower the standards, you get an inferior product. I have in my possession a textbook for high school algebra from the 1940s. My college level algebra textbooks didn't even come close to the level of teaching that old textbook did.
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By 1895, the vast majority of children went to school.
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You have NO DATA. I GAVE YOU DATA. YOU JUST WROTE SOME WORDS. NO DATA. Dude, you're an idiot.





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