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Babbin: 'In the Words of Our Enemies'
by David Limbaugh (More by this author)

Almost as upsetting as the fact that the United States is engaged in a long-term global war against radical Islamists is that a shocking percentage of people seem predisposed against grasping it.

To the perennially oblivious, we are in a war of choice in Iraq, which, among other "elective" actions, is stoking extremism and provoking retaliatory action against us. If we will just cease and desist these actions and otherwise alter those policies giving rise to grievances among radical Muslims, their rage will subside and they'll quit targeting us for extinction.

Those afflicted with this line of thinking not only believe it is our actions and policies that cause terrorists to hate us, but that many of those actions and policies are indeed objectionable.

That is, many of those who think global jihadists can be pacified uncoincidentally also believe they have legitimate complaints against the United States.

To these critics, America is not a shining city on a hill, not a beacon of freedom, not an exemplar of civil liberties, but, under the evil Bush administration at least, a nation that intermeddles in other nations' civil wars and ethnic disputes, systematically abuses and tortures enemy prisoners, spies on its own innocent citizens, runs roughshod over other nations in dictating its will on the international stage and is inhospitable to illegal immigrants.

The critics are projecting their own complaints about the United States on to the jihadists and choosing to believe, despite the overwhelming weight of the evidence and all common sense, that our enemy can be mollified if we'll just quit being a greedy, imperialistic superpower that seeks to impose its will and values on other peoples and exploit their resources.

Of course, these blame-America-firsters are wrong on their complaints against this country. But they are just as wrong about the appeasability of Muslim terrorists.

The terrorists don't just hate us for certain policies we pursue, such as our "occupation" of Saudi Arabia, our alliance with Israel or our stubborn refusal to withdraw from Iraq's "civil war." They hate us because of who we are and what we represent. We could adopt every America-denigrating policy our domestic critics recommend and we'd not make a dent in the enemy's hatred for us.

We can't afford to perpetuate this self-destructive denial of the threat that is right in front of our faces. Our national survival depends on our awareness that short of our national conversion to radical Islam, we are destined for a long-term war against the jihadists.

There is no surer evidence of our enemies' unquenchable malice against us than their own words, which reveal their thinking and sinister intentions. And I've seen no better single, readable source for this than Jed Babbin's alarming new book, In the Words of Our Enemies.

Based on extensive research, Babbin gives us transcripts of speeches, sermons, interviews and other candid statements delivered by terrorist leaders and the radical sheiks who fan the flames of anti-Western hatred in their mosques. You cannot read them and remain unaware that our enemies are irreversibly implacable and increasing in numbers and resolve.

The radicals believe they have a sacred duty to submit the world to Islamic theocracy, that "it is impossible to make peace with the Jews" and that Muslims "must not enter into a pact with them." "Jihad against them is our worship." "Educating children to Jihad and hatred of the Jews, the Christians, and the infidels … This is what is needed now." They are convinced Islam is invincible, and they will not negotiate with infidels. The West, by its very nature, is an enemy of Islam. There can be no coexistence.

They believe the way we live and project our values around the world, including our respect for and equal treatment of women, constitutes an unappeasable threat to Islam.

America's intractable domestic critics who believe we can mollify the Osamas by withdrawing from Iraq, ending our presence in Saudi Arabia and badmouthing Israel, should read portions from the Al Qaeda manual beginning on page 60 of Babbin's book:

"The confrontation that Islam calls for with these godless and apostate regimes, does not know Socratic debates, Platonic ideals nor Aristotelian diplomacy. But it knows the dialogue of bullets, the ideals of assassination, bombing, and destruction, and the diplomacy of the cannon and machine gun."

Every other sermon, speech and screed in this book is equally chilling. Purchasing and reading it is one of the best antidotes I can imagine for the ignorance and apathy that could lead to our national suicide.

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British jihad attacks: nothing to do with Islam?by Robert Spencer

In the wake of the two bomb-rigged cars discovered in London and the flaming jeep that crashed into a Glasgow airport terminal, the terror threat level in Britain has been raised to critical. Authorities declined to consider the implications of evidence that the events in London and Glasgow were motivated by the ideology of Islamic jihad. Daud Abdullah, the Deputy Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), declared that the plots “can be the work of Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists.” The new British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, appeared to agree, saying that new efforts had to be undertaken to win the “hearts and minds” of Muslims. “We have got to separate,” he added, “those great moderate members of our community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life in the interests of a perversion of their religion.”

Osama Saeed of the Muslim Association of Britain, meanwhile, expressed exasperation at the fact that non-Muslims expected Muslims to be active in opposing terror activities within the Islamic community: “We are seething with anger about this,” he said – that is, about the idea that jihad plots should be seen as a challenge to the larger Islamic community to do more against terrorism, not about the jihad plots themselves. “As a community,” he said, “not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this. We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it.”

Saeed’s anger was ironic in light of Brown’ statement. As the plots continued to be investigated over the weekend, no British officials were saying anything at all about the need for Muslims in Britain to redouble their efforts to teach against the jihad ideology of Islamic supremacism, to formulate new understandings of the Qur’an and Sunnah, rejecting the literal and mainstream legal interpretations of a large number of passages, to renounce any intention to impose Sharia in Britain at any time in the future, and to work much more closely with British authorities in order to root out jihadists from their ranks. In Britain, only the ex-jihadist Hassan Butt spoke more realistically about what needs to be done: “It isn’t enough for Muslims to say that because they feel at home in Britain they can simply ignore those passages of the Koran which instruct on killing unbelievers. By refusing to challenge centuries-old theological arguments, the tensions between Islamic theology and the modern world grow larger every day.”

The official silence about the Islamic element of the attacks was all the more curious in light of the revelation that British authorities were deeply concerned by the fact that the London and Glasgow plotters had no clear or readily discernable ties to terror groups: they were “off the radar.” One remarked: “If there is no trace then this means the terrorism situation in the UK is much worse than we have believed.” Indeed it is, because no Muslim group in the United Kingdom or elsewhere has drawn a distinction between themselves and the jihadists that is sufficiently sharp to prevent those jihadists from moving freely among the peaceful Muslims. They have not expelled jihadists from mosques, and they have not instituted comprehensive, compulsory programs to teach against the jihad ideology. And it is entirely possible for a peaceful Muslim to turn into a jihadist under the noses of authorities -- as Mike Hawash and others have done in the U.S.

Until the British authorities are willing to face the fact that the plotters couldn’t just as well have been Buddhists, but rather arise from the Islamic community and base their actions upon Islamic principles, they will not be dealing with the root of this problem realistically, and we are going to see many more attacks. Butt stressed that Muslims and non-Muslims must “start openly to discuss the ideas that fuel terrorism.” Do Gordon Brown and the rest have the courage to do this?
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Can anyone name anything that Islamists are NOT "seething with anger about" ?

Patriotic, logical, moral, American talk-radio host Laura Ingraham calls them "the religion of the Perpetually Outraged".

Muslims need to STOP the terrorist sentiments in their own midst, and about everything else, they need to STFU.
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False flag ops = bsflag
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More bullshit from the bullshit artist.
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Can anyone name anything that Islamists are NOT "seething with anger about" ?

Patriotic, logical, moral, American talk-radio host Laura Ingraham calls them "the religion of the Perpetually Outraged".

Muslims need to STOP the terrorist sentiments in their own midst, and about everything else, they need to STFU.
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Christians have to STOP terrorists from bombing abortion clinics, and about everything else, they need to STFU.
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PNACfuck is either an establishment shill or the stupidest fucker on the planet.

Of course some Muslims hate our guts. Wouldn't you if you lived in a Muslim country?

Look at the history of the area.

China will soon replace Muslims as the enemy of choice. Why? Because the US has used the funds it stole from the People (as in We, the People) and which are enumerated in the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports to invest in Chinese corporations. The Chinese government doesn't like the fact that the US is using funds created out of thin air to steal a major part of profits form its industrial output and will move to stop it.

[link to cafr1.com]

Do you know how many trillions of dollars YOUR Local and Federal Government has invested with Mexico, China, the old Soviet block countries? Investments held in foreign currency? Government investments that greatly profit from that cheap labor abroad. Investments that profit even more when the dollar drops in value due to foreign currency exchange rates?

YOU SHOULD KNOW!

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Could it be that our own Government over the last several decades has been promoting to those fortune 500 companies, of which Government owns most through Bond - Loan investment / stock ownership [EXAMPLES: 82% stock ownership of Microsoft Corporation, Disney 61%, AOL - Time Warner 58%, EXXON 72%] to manufacture abroad so that Government would realize greater returns on their investments at the Peoples of the USA's expense in jobs and wealth retention.

ACCOMPLISHING: Laying the groundwork for balancing world wealth, the primary foundation block of the NWO - NEW WORLD ORDER! Nah, our Government wouldn't do that for a few extra trillions of NON-TAX-INCOME dollars right?

Well, sorry to say it to you but WRONG!

In the 60's, most government investment funds were restricted to a cap of 5% to a maximum of 10% invested outside of the USA. By 2000, that restriction has been increased in many a case to over 45% and in some cases no restriction at all per percent of International investments held. (Guess who or should I say "what" made the big overall profit from the 911 event?) Could it be? Let's not go there! To many bubbles may burst.....

Is the big picture coming into view for you yet? I sure hope so! Correction is needed!

That is if you still own your country to make a difference. Well do you? Own it that is? Well, do you? If you answered yes to that question, you are wealthier than you thought.
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Let's talk about CAFRs, PNACfuck.

Over 84000 of them showing 60 to 200 trillion in fascist corporate "government" assets and profits UNREPORTED in ANY annual budget!

Straighten out the domestic lies, trickery, deceit, theft and murder before you give advice to the rezt of the planet.
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Von Braun story from 1974, you stupid fucking idiot! You are so fucking blind that you can't see the truth.

"Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern." (Axis of Evil)


It has to do with the insider knowledge of Wernher von Braun passed onto Carol Rosin, a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and a former Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries. It concerns a grand 'game' being played by some cabal inside the United States. Wernher von Braun, as briefly mentioned in Endgame II, was director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center who originally worked for the Third Reich.

We learn that Rosin told the Disclosure Project the following back in December 2000:

We first met in early 1974. At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played- that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from space and space itself. [...] Von Braun's purpose during the last years of his life, his dying years, was to educate the public and decision-makers about why space-based weapons are dumb, dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, unworkable, and an undesirable idea, and about the alternatives that are available. As practically a deathbed speech, he educated me about those concepts and who the players were in this game. He gave me the responsibility, since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization of outer space.

We now see that this information was chillingly 'prophetic', especially when the following is added:

The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. [...] Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.

Keep in mind that this interview was recorded more than a year before 9/11. What comes after this, according to Rosin/von Braun, will be 'asteroids':

The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. [...]

This is very curious given the ongoing 'Planet X' rumors going around in cyberspace.

So at this point it appears this supposed 'game' is unfolding very rapidly before our eyes. Indeed, Rosin tells us:

What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn't mention a timeline but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.

This certainly sounds very realistic now. With all the Mars buzz and the fear created/sustained by the 'war on terror', going into space with weapons is getting much easier to accomplish at this time and it is already beginning...

Another thing we apparently can expect to emerge soon is the 'alien card', as Rosin stated:

And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie." [...]

This would be a crazy idea if we weren't already living in a crazy world in a crazy period... And this would neatly tie in with the view expressed here at Etemenanki since early January that a carefully-controlled 'Mars disclosure' is likely unfolding now - the recent Mars water announcement being the latest example/confirmation of this process.

Rosin also stated:

What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare tactics. That was how we identify an enemy.

'Scare tactics'... Well, in our post-9/11 world that's an eerily familiar theme, isn't it? Now, it is no secret that I've been critical of the Bush administration and I'm sure some readers have felt that I was getting overly 'political'. Hopefully, the above information helps get the idea across that the level of the issues we're dealing with here would go much deeper than the usual, silly 'conservative vs. liberal' political mentality.

Finally, if you're wondering about Carol Rosin's credibility, check out the following:

I [Rosin] am a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and have consulted to a number of companies, organizations, and government departments, even the intelligence community. I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile, so I was part of that strategy, which turned out to be a role model for how to sell space-based weapons to the public. The MX missile is yet another weapon system that we didn't need. I founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think tank. I am an author and have testified before Congress and the President's Commission on Space.

That's pretty heavy credentials. And consequently we can't just ignore her heavy information - especially given all the events that took place after her pre-9/11 Disclosure interview...

We can take this as yet another clue telling us that the 'Endgame' is indeed in progress. Yep, time to wake up and smell the diminishing oil fields!

'Cuz they say two thousand zero zero party over
Oops out of time
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
- Prince

Well, close enough... We can still party like it's 2011! :)




So, PNACfuck, it was Russians, 3rd world Terrorists (your current favorite), asteroids and aliens in theat order, and that was stated in 1974. Can it be any clearer that this ALL a staged event?
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By your "Logic" all Christians are KKK cross burning racist's!
When you grow up, you will realize that all people are the same in only one way, that we are all different.Until then STFU.
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bump to show PNACfuck's propaganda versus the truth
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bump to show PNACfuck's propaganda versus the truth
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bump to show PNACfuck's propaganda versus the truth
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The only one peddling propaganda around here is you and people like you who choose to remain blind to what radical Islam's intentions are when it comes to the west. Thank God you were not around during WWII!
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Of course some Muslims hate our guts. Wouldn't you if you lived in a Muslim country?
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Irrelevant hypothetical. Probably works with bleeding heart liberals.
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Of course some Muslims hate our guts. Wouldn't you if you lived in a Muslim country?


Irrelevant hypothetical. Probably works with bleeding heart liberals.
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Irrelevant? The west has been interfering with, destabalising and generally bombing the shit out of the Middle East for decades. Yet you think it is irrelevant to consider this fact?.

Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.
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Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.
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Yeah right. Right after Pearl Harbor, you would have said,,,"maybe we should spend a day in their shoes so we might learn some humility."

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Of course some Muslims hate our guts. Wouldn't you if you lived in a Muslim country?


Irrelevant hypothetical. Probably works with bleeding heart liberals.


Irrelevant? The west has been interfering with, destabalising and generally bombing the shit out of the Middle East for decades. Yet you think it is irrelevant to consider this fact?.

Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.
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....... worship worship worship worship worship worship worship devil6
SOMETHING LIKE THIS? goaway
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Of course some Muslims hate our guts. Wouldn't you if you lived in a Muslim country?


Irrelevant hypothetical. Probably works with bleeding heart liberals.


Irrelevant? The west has been interfering with, destabalising and generally bombing the shit out of the Middle East for decades. Yet you think it is irrelevant to consider this fact?.

Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.
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Don't worry. He'll be reincarnated as a Palastinian. God has a sense of humour!
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Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.



Yeah right. Right after Pearl Harbor, you would have said,,,"maybe we should spend a day in their shoes so we might learn some humility."

idiot
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Better an idiot than a fascist *turd*.
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Of course some Muslims hate our guts. Wouldn't you if you lived in a Muslim country?


Irrelevant hypothetical. Probably works with bleeding heart liberals.


Irrelevant? The west has been interfering with, destabalising and generally bombing the shit out of the Middle East for decades. Yet you think it is irrelevant to consider this fact?.

Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.

....... worship worship worship worship worship worship worship devil6
SOMETHING LIKE THIS? goaway
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Nah - your gang worship the Devil. He is your father!
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Irrelevant? The west has been interfering with, destabalising and generally bombing the shit out of the Middle East for decades. Yet you think it is irrelevant to consider this fact?.

Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.
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It's irrelevant because you don't tell them to put themselves in OUR shoes, do you? Why don't you tell them - guys, you've been bombing buses, airplanes, kidnapped journalists, beheaded folks, killed children in schools and theaters, did all kinds of shit. If you were them, wouldn't you be pissed at the followers of Islaam? But you wouldn't do that because they'd probably bitch slap you for telling them to put themselves into the shoes of an infidel. That is blasphemy, that is madness.
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pnacgay = forum troll


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bump to show PNACfuck's propaganda versus the truth


The only one peddling propaganda around here is you and people like you who choose to remain blind to what radical Islam's intentions are when it comes to the west. Thank God you were not around during WWII!
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"Radical Islam" vs "Islam"

Not all Muslims are radical. And moderate Muslims can't be expected to exert any more control over radical Muslims than moderate Christians can exert over radical Christians.
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Don't worry. He'll be reincarnated as a Palastinian. God has a sense of humour!
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So what? I'll come get you whiny liberals. You'll embrace Allah. Let's see you adjust your leftist ideas under a by-the-book sharia. LOL
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Irrelevant? The west has been interfering with, destabalising and generally bombing the shit out of the Middle East for decades. Yet you think it is irrelevant to consider this fact?.

Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.


It's irrelevant because you don't tell them to put themselves in OUR shoes, do you? Why don't you tell them - guys, you've been bombing buses, airplanes, kidnapped journalists, beheaded folks, killed children in schools and theaters, did all kinds of shit. If you were them, wouldn't you be pissed at the followers of Islaam? But you wouldn't do that because they'd probably bitch slap you for telling them to put themselves into the shoes of an infidel. That is blasphemy, that is madness.
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In their mind, Americans have been responsible for the death of many Muslims. The United States is a super power, and Muslims have no hope of defeating the US, or even discouraging the US from its activities using conventional methods, so it is necessary to resort to all of the things that you describe above.

Is their belief accurate? Even if it is accurate, does that justify killing innocent people? What is the best way to change their minds?
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Well, for one, we aren't Britain. They've had continuing problems with Irish freedom fighters, in N Ireland.

No one has come forward to take any credit. The last attack they had was done supposedly by a Brazilian guy.

Not all terrorists are Islamic. You'd be shooting yourself in the foot to believe that. All the other terrorist groups didn't suddenly say "Hey, now that 9-11's happened, let us RETIRE! Woot!"

Nope.
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Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.



Yeah right. Right after Pearl Harbor, you would have said,,,"maybe we should spend a day in their shoes so we might learn some humility."

idiot
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The last I heard, it was the Japanese who were responsible, but I digress. The point is, if the roles where reversed, and the West sat atop of the vast majority of the worlds oil reserves, and was constantly destabalised, bombed etc. then you would would stand up and defend yourself in whatever way possible. It's human nature. To refuse to consider this is a fundamental flaw in your thinking.

But from the garbage you post, I seriously doubt you think very much at all.
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Can anyone name anything that Islamists are NOT "seething with anger about" ?

Patriotic, logical, moral, American talk-radio host Laura Ingraham calls them "the religion of the Perpetually Outraged".

Muslims need to STOP the terrorist sentiments in their own midst, and about everything else, they need to STFU.


Christians have to STOP terrorists from bombing abortion clinics, and about everything else, they need to STFU.
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Don't worry. He'll be reincarnated as a Palastinian. God has a sense of humour!


So what? I'll come get you whiny liberals. You'll embrace Allah. Let's see you adjust your leftist ideas under a by-the-book sharia. LOL
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So what? The IDF will bomb you with clusterbombs or run you over with tanks and bulldozers. You won't have a chance to seek revenge!

Why not return to this earth plane as a civilized western Human Being next time rather than the warmongering, barbaric *cunt* you are now? ASK GOD FOR A FAVOUR!
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Re: In the words of our Enemies AND British Jihad attacks nothing to do with Islam
Irrelevant? The west has been interfering with, destabalising and generally bombing the shit out of the Middle East for decades. Yet you think it is irrelevant to consider this fact?.

Try spending a day in someone elses shoes, it might teach you some humility and compassion.


It's irrelevant because you don't tell them to put themselves in OUR shoes, do you? Why don't you tell them - guys, you've been bombing buses, airplanes, kidnapped journalists, beheaded folks, killed children in schools and theaters, did all kinds of shit. If you were them, wouldn't you be pissed at the followers of Islaam? But you wouldn't do that because they'd probably bitch slap you for telling them to put themselves into the shoes of an infidel. That is blasphemy, that is madness.
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You again refuse to consider why these actions take place. Unless you think that they are really trying to take over the world because their religion tells them too, I cant see how you can ignore this. If you do believe that then you're past help. Sorry.
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07/02/2007 02:15 PM
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Not all Muslims are radical. And moderate Muslims can't be expected to exert any more control over radical Muslims than moderate Christians can exert over radical Christians.
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Sure they can. Moderate Christians have made laws that put radical Christians in prison for doing shit like bombing abortion clinics in the name of God.

Moderate Muslims dont march and protest when Radical Muslims spread terror. They dont demand that the radical Muslims be sent to prison or have their heads cut off for making Muslims look bad, now do they Spanky?
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07/02/2007 02:17 PM
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Re: In the words of our Enemies AND British Jihad attacks nothing to do with Islam
Can anyone name anything that Islamists are NOT "seething with anger about" ?

Patriotic, logical, moral, American talk-radio host Laura Ingraham calls them "the religion of the Perpetually Outraged".

Muslims need to STOP the terrorist sentiments in their own midst, and about everything else, they need to STFU.


Christians have to STOP terrorists from bombing abortion clinics, and about everything else, they need to STFU.

HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW?

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Its no better than the warmongering hatred that you constantly push around here, wouldn't you say. Two wrongs don't make a right.





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