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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76939252  United States06/25/2019 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fat makes you fat. The only reason why eating a diet of carbs would make you fat is because you're also eating FAT. Carbs do not make you fat. What happens is.... if you eat fat and carbs together, your body only takes the carbs, because carbs is it's preferred energy source. ... And then it stores the fat.... as fat. Fat is back up energy. That is what it literally is. It is BACK UP ENERGY. So if you eat fat on a carbohydrate diet, the fat you eat will be stored as FAT, and not used. Only the carbs will be used. In actuality it is extremely difficult to get fat on a *healthy* carb-only diet. Extremely difficult. It's only when you include FAT in that diet, do you become fat. I HATE the keto diet. It is a STUPID WEIGHT-LOSS HACK. It literally puts your body into STARVATION MODE. Because you ARE STARVING YOURSELF. FORCING YOUR BODY TO RUN ON FUMES. FUMES.... being the BACK UP energy that is FAT. You won't have any energy. EVERYONNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Eventually QUITS the keto diet because they have no energy. I'm telling you. Eliminate FAT from your diet.... ALL FAT.... and you WON'T GET FAT. NO MEAT NO FAT. NO SHIT FATTY FOODS. NO FAT PERIOD. Here is the fomer GLP champion of the keto diet :P Thread: keto was messing with my blood sugar too ^ Going off the keto diet because she had no energy. It was obvious she had no energy because her brain seemed to run at like 5%. So :P As long as you don't consume fat... you will not get fat. And no, your body doesn't need to consume fat (i.e. *back-up energy*) to function. Like your brain. Your body will convert carbs into fat when it needs to. Dumb and dumber. Here genius, read this: The Cholesterol Myths by Uffe Ravnskov, MD Life Without Bread by Wolfgang Lutz, MD Then read: The NOONOO-Cycle as the Central Cause of Heart Failure by Martin Pall These are three good primers to start with. You do read, right? After you read these, get back to me. Idiots that don't understand basic science and how their bodies work. I'm not going to read two 300 page books, which you didn't even post the full titles to. You post two 300 page books and tell me to read them.... and then mock me about if I read or not. NO. I will not read those things. People have saved their lives going off fatty diets. Bill Clinton swears by the vegan diet that it keeps him alive an not dead from heart disease. Eat by your morals. <3 Do not kill. <3 Full titles son. You have just proven my point. Any adult could knock those books out on a weekend. But not you obviously. I enjoyed your response: NO. I will not read those things. What, will you melt if you touch a book? Afraid you might learn something or is it that you might be proven wrong with science? Go back to your women's magazines. I'm sure they have plenty more articles about Bill Clinton. See folks, this is the problem with young ones, all mouth and no wisdom. They even balk at the prospect of reading anything that isn't delivered to them pre-packaged on their precious smart devices. For those following, another fine book to read: Explaining “Unexplained Illnesses” Martin L. Pall, PhD |
White Wolf Waking  User ID: 76392312 United States06/25/2019 08:43 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | woah, never knew that i had to look it up! hmmmm i guess fatties just have no chance. Fat blocks the absorption of insulin. That's why only fat people get type 2 diabetes. Fat blocks the production and absorption of insulin. We shouldn't be eating fat. I feel much better since I decreased fat and added plenty of fruit. I make lots of smoothies. ANIMAL FRIEND "All creatures are created from the same paternal heartbeat of God. Not to hurt our humble brethren is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be of service to them wherever they require it. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." -St. Francis of Assisi "The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." -Gandhi Thread: Top 10 Opera Auditions (My Music Thread) |
| Larry D. Croc User ID: 70736097 United States06/25/2019 08:47 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 28 yo virgin 76766237 Fat makes you fat. The only reason why eating a diet of carbs would make you fat is because you're also eating FAT. Carbs do not make you fat. What happens is.... if you eat fat and carbs together, your body only takes the carbs, because carbs is it's preferred energy source. ... And then it stores the fat.... as fat. Fat is back up energy. That is what it literally is. It is BACK UP ENERGY. So if you eat fat on a carbohydrate diet, the fat you eat will be stored as FAT, and not used. Only the carbs will be used. In actuality it is extremely difficult to get fat on a *healthy* carb-only diet. Extremely difficult. It's only when you include FAT in that diet, do you become fat. I HATE the keto diet. It is a STUPID WEIGHT-LOSS HACK. It literally puts your body into STARVATION MODE. Because you ARE STARVING YOURSELF. FORCING YOUR BODY TO RUN ON FUMES. FUMES.... being the BACK UP energy that is FAT. You won't have any energy. EVERYONNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Eventually QUITS the keto diet because they have no energy. I'm telling you. Eliminate FAT from your diet.... ALL FAT.... and you WON'T GET FAT. NO MEAT NO FAT. NO SHIT FATTY FOODS. NO FAT PERIOD. Here is the fomer GLP champion of the keto diet :P Thread: keto was messing with my blood sugar too ^ Going off the keto diet because she had no energy. It was obvious she had no energy because her brain seemed to run at like 5%. So :P As long as you don't consume fat... you will not get fat. And no, your body doesn't need to consume fat (i.e. *back-up energy*) to function. Like your brain. Your body will convert carbs into fat when it needs to. Dumb and dumber. Here genius, read this: The Cholesterol Myths by Uffe Ravnskov, MD Life Without Bread by Wolfgang Lutz, MD Then read: The NOONOO-Cycle as the Central Cause of Heart Failure by Martin Pall These are three good primers to start with. You do read, right? After you read these, get back to me. Idiots that don't understand basic science and how their bodies work. I'm not going to read two 300 page books, which you didn't even post the full titles to. You post two 300 page books and tell me to read them.... and then mock me about if I read or not. NO. I will not read those things. People have saved their lives going off fatty diets. Bill Clinton swears by the vegan diet that it keeps him alive an not dead from heart disease. Eat by your morals. <3 Do not kill. <3 Full titles son. You have just proven my point. Any adult could knock those books out on a weekend. But not you obviously. I enjoyed your response: NO. I will not read those things. What, will you melt if you touch a book? Afraid you might learn something or is it that you might be proven wrong with science? Go back to your women's magazines. I'm sure they have plenty more articles about Bill Clinton. See folks, this is the problem with young ones, all mouth and no wisdom. They even balk at the prospect of reading anything that isn't delivered to them pre-packaged on their precious smart devices. For those following, another fine book to read: Explaining “Unexplained Illnesses” Martin L. Pall, PhD This goof is a perfect illustration of what many (not all) younger people have been raised to believe: 1. If I think it? It's true. 2. If I say it, and say it loudly? It becomes truth. 3. If I write it, particularly in all capital letters? It becomes fact. And you'll note the duration of the "conviction", was it one day or two? Next we'll be on to "All I shall eat are oats!" as the next in a seemingly endless list of attention whoring proclamations. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
| White Wolf Waking User ID: 76392312 United States06/25/2019 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can u say "DIEABEETUS"? Quoting: Plato your body wont like all that sugar. alsofruits are meant for the seed to have something to protect itself from the elements, and provide energy to restart growth once it falls to the ground and needs to germinate. also, the fruit works as a delivery system thru a predators digestive tract, to a new location. its not so you can have something tasty. the logic just isnt there im afraid. you may as well just write your name on everything you eat, so you know its "meant specifically for you" Sugar doesn't cause diabetes. Fat does. Carbs do. Fat is healthy. Fat makes you fat. The only reason why eating a diet of carbs would make you fat is because you're also eating FAT. Carbs do not make you fat. What happens is.... if you eat fat and carbs together, your body only takes the carbs, because carbs is it's preferred energy source. ... And then it stores the fat.... as fat. Fat is back up energy. That is what it literally is. It is BACK UP ENERGY. So if you eat fat on a carbohydrate diet, the fat you eat will be stored as FAT, and not used. Only the carbs will be used. In actuality it is extremely difficult to get fat on a *healthy* carb-only diet. Extremely difficult. It's only when you include FAT in that diet, do you become fat. I HATE the keto diet. It is a STUPID WEIGHT-LOSS HACK. It literally puts your body into STARVATION MODE. Because you ARE STARVING YOURSELF. FORCING YOUR BODY TO RUN ON FUMES. FUMES.... being the BACK UP energy that is FAT. You won't have any energy. EVERYONNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Eventually QUITS the keto diet because they have no energy. I'm telling you. Eliminate FAT from your diet.... ALL FAT.... and you WON'T GET FAT. NO MEAT NO FAT. NO SHIT FATTY FOODS. NO FAT PERIOD. Here is the fomer GLP champion of the keto diet :P Thread: keto was messing with my blood sugar too ^ Going off the keto diet because she had no energy. It was obvious she had no energy because her brain seemed to run at like 5%. So :P As long as you don't consume fat... you will not get fat. And no, your body doesn't need to consume fat (i.e. *back-up energy*) to function. Like your brain. Your body will convert carbs into fat when it needs to. I have to agree. I tried paleo and felt awful. Now I am doing what Anthony William recommends, low fat, plant based and my energy and mood improved a lot. I still eat a little chicken and turkey. I can't speak about weight loss, My weight is ok. I'm doing it for fatigue and neurological issues. My brother did keto and lost weight but did not feel well on it and it was hard for him to maintain. Corrected: I did paleo, my brother did keto. Last Edited by White Wolf Waking on 06/25/2019 08:54 AM ANIMAL FRIEND "All creatures are created from the same paternal heartbeat of God. Not to hurt our humble brethren is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be of service to them wherever they require it. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." -St. Francis of Assisi "The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." -Gandhi Thread: Top 10 Opera Auditions (My Music Thread) |
| White Wolf Waking User ID: 77694199 United States06/25/2019 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should add that onThanksgiving, my brother and I both te the same turkey dinner and he checked our blood sugars an hour later, as he is diabetic and doing keto for that as his doctor recommended. My sugar was 130 and his was around 430. He had been doing some kind of high fat snacks too along with eating mainly meat. Now he is on some kind of injection that makes him really sick but he has lost quite a bit of weight. To be fair, he is much more sedentary than I am. ANIMAL FRIEND "All creatures are created from the same paternal heartbeat of God. Not to hurt our humble brethren is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be of service to them wherever they require it. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." -St. Francis of Assisi "The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." -Gandhi Thread: Top 10 Opera Auditions (My Music Thread) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76939252 United States06/25/2019 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76939252 Dumb and dumber. Here genius, read this: The Cholesterol Myths by Uffe Ravnskov, MD Life Without Bread by Wolfgang Lutz, MD Then read: The NOONOO-Cycle as the Central Cause of Heart Failure by Martin Pall These are three good primers to start with. You do read, right? After you read these, get back to me. Idiots that don't understand basic science and how their bodies work. I'm not going to read two 300 page books, which you didn't even post the full titles to. You post two 300 page books and tell me to read them.... and then mock me about if I read or not. NO. I will not read those things. People have saved their lives going off fatty diets. Bill Clinton swears by the vegan diet that it keeps him alive an not dead from heart disease. Eat by your morals. <3 Do not kill. <3 Full titles son. You have just proven my point. Any adult could knock those books out on a weekend. But not you obviously. I enjoyed your response: NO. I will not read those things. What, will you melt if you touch a book? Afraid you might learn something or is it that you might be proven wrong with science? Go back to your women's magazines. I'm sure they have plenty more articles about Bill Clinton. See folks, this is the problem with young ones, all mouth and no wisdom. They even balk at the prospect of reading anything that isn't delivered to them pre-packaged on their precious smart devices. For those following, another fine book to read: Explaining “Unexplained Illnesses” Martin L. Pall, PhD This goof is a perfect illustration of what many (not all) younger people have been raised to believe: 1. If I think it? It's true. 2. If I say it, and say it loudly? It becomes truth. 3. If I write it, particularly in all capital letters? It becomes fact. And you'll note the duration of the "conviction", was it one day or two? Next we'll be on to "All I shall eat are oats!" as the next in a seemingly endless list of attention whoring proclamations. What really gets me, is no one is willing to read books! Books = Power! Education and knowledge are wonderful things, yet they fear them. Why? Also read: Mega-Nutrition by Richard Kunin, MD These books are gems and written by doctors. Dr. Pall is not, but he's worth reading. These are also great papers by Dr. Pall: Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Microwave frequency electromagnetic fields (EMFs) produce widespread neuropsychiatric effects including depression. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76939252 United States06/25/2019 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should add that onThanksgiving, my brother and I both te the same turkey dinner and he checked our blood sugars an hour later, as he is diabetic and doing keto for that as his doctor recommended. My sugar was 130 and his was around 430. He had been doing some kind of high fat snacks too along with eating mainly meat. Quoting: White Wolf Waking Now he is on some kind of injection that makes him really sick but he has lost quite a bit of weight. To be fair, he is much more sedentary than I am. Have your brother read: The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg [link to www.cellphonetaskforce.org (secure)] Excellent book! Pricey, but it supports the author and it's a great read! He had been doing some kind of high fat snacks too along with eating mainly meat. See, this is all wrong. This is what happens when you follow fad diets. |
| Baal Molech User ID: 71318064 United States06/25/2019 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...so you're going to eat yourself? "I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it." "War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself." "Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States06/25/2019 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the entire article. Worth your time ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76939252 the low-fat-is-good-health hypothesis has now effectively failed the test of time. In particular, that we are in the midst of an obesity epidemic that started around the early 1980's, and that this was coincident with the rise of the low-fat dogma. (Type 2 diabetes, the most common form of the disease, also rose significantly through this period.) They say that low-fat weight-loss diets have proved in clinical trials and real life to be dismal failures, and that on top of it all, the percentage of fat in the American diet has been decreasing for two decades. Our cholesterol levels have been declining, and we have been smoking less, and yet the incidence of heart disease has not declined as would be expected. ''That is very disconcerting,'' Willett says. ''It suggests that something else bad is happening.'' [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] People were probably gaining weight because they were eating a lot of low fat junk food. Eating fruits and vegetables some grain and some lean meats will not make a person fat. Too many calories will make a person fat and a sedentary lifestyle will do that as well. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States06/25/2019 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should add that onThanksgiving, my brother and I both te the same turkey dinner and he checked our blood sugars an hour later, as he is diabetic and doing keto for that as his doctor recommended. My sugar was 130 and his was around 430. He had been doing some kind of high fat snacks too along with eating mainly meat. Quoting: White Wolf Waking Now he is on some kind of injection that makes him really sick but he has lost quite a bit of weight. To be fair, he is much more sedentary than I am. He should have changed his diet and added in walking before getting on meds. Keto really screws up the body. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77432547 United Kingdom06/25/2019 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A fruit of a plant is something which a plant produces specifically for us to eat. <3 Quoting: 28 yo virgin 76766237 Because that fruit has seeds of the plant. So the seeds with travel with the animal, and the animal will excrete the seeds in it's excrement. <3 99.99 fruit you eat today is the result of genetic selection making them full of fructose and low in nutrients. Nothing to do with natural fruits. also is fruit off season, off climatic zone. good luck with destroying your liver. fructose is additive as alcohol because has the exact same liver pathway.Because fructose do not get converted into energy it gets converted in stored fat...mostly in your organs...like non alcoholic fatty liver. you barely survive eating few local fruit in the summer because high UV will remove partially the hard work to the liver by decomposing bilirubine. once again, good luck with being a retarded. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States06/25/2019 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In most places you will have a hard time finding fruit ripe enough to be eaten when you buy them, not to mention the high cost of most fruit except apples and oranges. It will be faster for you to die on just water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76783873 Have some bananas. And eat make a smoothie fro frozen berries. Just half a cup. That is cheap. We don’t need tons of anything. A little fruit. Some veggies. Some low fat meat and some grains. And move. Don’t be sedentary. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76939252 United States06/25/2019 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should add that onThanksgiving, my brother and I both te the same turkey dinner and he checked our blood sugars an hour later, as he is diabetic and doing keto for that as his doctor recommended. My sugar was 130 and his was around 430. He had been doing some kind of high fat snacks too along with eating mainly meat. Quoting: White Wolf Waking Now he is on some kind of injection that makes him really sick but he has lost quite a bit of weight. To be fair, he is much more sedentary than I am. He should have changed his diet and added in walking before getting on meds. Keto really screws up the body. Source? Keto as a fad diet yes. I have already posted some of my sources in books .... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76783873 Portugal06/25/2019 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In most places you will have a hard time finding fruit ripe enough to be eaten when you buy them, not to mention the high cost of most fruit except apples and oranges. It will be faster for you to die on just water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76783873 Have some bananas. And eat make a smoothie fro frozen berries. Just half a cup. That is cheap. We don’t need tons of anything. A little fruit. Some veggies. Some low fat meat and some grains. And move. Don’t be sedentary. I need tons, i eat a big bowl of food, these guys were annoyed when they saw it on camera. Bananas are medium priced, lots of times they will be green, berries are really expensive by the kilo, they were free back in the day in the mountains now they cost more than dead cows. Ive went vegan, its cheap and my health has been improving for the first time in my life, ive always walked everywhere except when i couldnt, the whole foods and vitamin stores are a racket. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77432547 United Kingdom06/25/2019 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In most places you will have a hard time finding fruit ripe enough to be eaten when you buy them, not to mention the high cost of most fruit except apples and oranges. It will be faster for you to die on just water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76783873 Have some bananas. And eat make a smoothie fro frozen berries. Just half a cup. That is cheap. We don’t need tons of anything. A little fruit. Some veggies. Some low fat meat and some grains. And move. Don’t be sedentary. I need tons, i eat a big bowl of food, these guys were annoyed when they saw it on camera. Bananas are medium priced, lots of times they will be green, berries are really expensive by the kilo, they were free back in the day in the mountains now they cost more than dead cows. Ive went vegan, its cheap and my health has been improving for the first time in my life, ive always walked everywhere except when i couldnt, the whole foods and vitamin stores are a racket. on the long run you'll need to go back to a omnivor diet with no grains, low fruits and few vegetables. ask all the people who went vegan or vegetarian and then regreted after years. the more carbs you eat the faster you gonna reach autoimmune conditions |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76783873 Portugal06/25/2019 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | on the long run you'll need to go back to a omnivor diet with no grains, low fruits and few vegetables. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432547 ask all the people who went vegan or vegetarian and then regreted after years. the more carbs you eat the faster you gonna reach autoimmune conditions You couldve convinced me if i didnt had conditions previously, im doing better now, long run i do not know but ive been doing it since 2016. Im not strict about it nor do i care about the animals, but i wont make people change their menus because of me so i eat what they give me which includes the dead cows and stinky fish, but when its just me which is most of the time i eat plant foods. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76939252 United States06/25/2019 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ye shall eat the fat of the land. Genesis 45:18 The great tragedy of Science - the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. Thomas Huxley (1825-1895) Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk. Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) Theorists almost always become to fond of their own ideas, often simply by living with them for so long. It is difficult to believe that one's cherished theory, which really works rather nicely in some respects, may become completely false. Francis Crick, Nobel Prize Laureate (together with James Watson, for discovering the structure of DNA) Books! You ought to try reading some ... |
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