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How many people don't come forward that are treated this way??
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I live in the Midwest and switched insurance this year, so needed
to find a new primary physician. I picked one who specialized in
sport medicine because I had fallen and wanted to rehab so I
could continue my active lifestyle. I was told by the doctor that,
“At your age, we don’t do anything about that”. I am not even 65,
and certainly young in most ways except chronological number.
I also had an insurance benefit for Therapeutic Massage Therapy
which required a doctor referral. The doctor and I had a heated
conversation because he did not want to refer me because he
thought it was a costly benefit and he inferred I was not worth it.
In spite of his objections, he did give me the referral. The therapy
has made a huge difference to me...I’m back riding my bike and
walking many miles, etc.

Needless to say, I switched doctors. I learned a lesson though,
that ageism is well and alive in our culture, here in the U.S.
I definitely feel even more responsible for my own healthcare.

At the beginning of the year, a friend of mine, in her nineties,
who was very active and involved in her life, was euthanized
with pain meds after a fall. It’s coming to that...it’s not about
quality of life, but some hypothetical “expiration date” we are
living past.
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Susan Halbert, 83, was turned away from Glasgow's New Victoria Hospital
She was taken there by paramedics after she fell at her home and broke her arm
Doctors told her they would not see her because she was over 65-years-old
The pensioner was then taken to A&E, given a splint and then sent home

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

This is what leftie sociopaths are turning the UK into. What next, compulsory euthanasia for over 65s?
 Quoting: Tess.


Tess, you already know the full story of the current situation of the NHS and the Conservative party free market plan of paying for treatment

this is not a Scotland model nor a Labour model and don't pin it on Lefties,

this model was made after austerity and brexit it is you Righties who put the old in this situation and underfunded the NHS to have this Private model in which i don't want.

So please in future get your stories right and stop using Leftie and Rightie to make a sense of it and to blame it on a left government

if you understood what SNP are, they are Nationalist Liberal Party

Nationalist for Scotland
Liberal for Centrist / Left leaning policies

Central government is Conservative Party that are currently underfunding the NHS purposely and soon to force you to pay for consultations and treatments!
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You are joking? NHS Scotland, under the very left SNP, is in a much, much worse state than NHS England.

I would never hate anyone for who or what they are, only for what they do. But I would never cover up what they do because of who or what they are.
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Doctors are some of the most arrogant clueless fucks you will ever come across
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NHS (Great Britain's National Health), has a criteria that states procedures are done based on comorbidities, AGE and COST. The VA, right here in this country, also consider AGE in treatment.

Not so here in the US for private insurance (as long as you don't have a PPO)or Medicare. My mom is 96 and has just been referred to a orthopedic oncologist for treatment. That would not have happened in England.

Government run healthcare, or "Medicare for all will mean healthcare for none, is a direct quote from my highly qualified private cardiologist.

Although I go to the VA for some things, I would NEVER let them operate on me. They are at least several years behind in the latest equipment (takes a long time for government contracts to get equipment to the end user). For example, our VA Medical Center didn't have a CT Scanner until 7 years ago. Couple that with the inability to get a second opinion, or have a choice on who operates and you easily get the picture.

Always remember, they still call the guy/gal who finished at the bottom of their residency term, "doctor." And, you will most likely find that person at the VA.

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Susan Halbert, 83, was turned away from Glasgow's New Victoria Hospital
She was taken there by paramedics after she fell at her home and broke her arm
Doctors told her they would not see her because she was over 65-years-old
The pensioner was then taken to A&E, given a splint and then sent home

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

This is what leftie sociopaths are turning the UK into. What next, compulsory euthanasia for over 65s?
 Quoting: Tess.




she is not profitable. send her to the phosphorous factories. might squeeze a little more profit out of her.
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Goodluck Hospital upsetting Glasgow....those lot will come round and break your freaking hands probably.
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Doctors are some of the most arrogant clueless fucks you will ever come across
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kill the fu..ers, hand them in their homes and those who vote these laws
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Doctors are some of the most arrogant clueless fucks you will ever come across
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kill the fu..ers, hand them in their homes and those who vote these laws
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hant them
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She should have claimed to be muslim.......problem solved!
<<<<<< That damn Canadian flag. I live in the Midwest..........WTF?
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Our doctors take an oath to do no harm, not keep you alive until 65 and then fuck off.
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Pretty much. When my mom was diagnosed with Breast Cancer they basically said sucks to be you. Good thing for mom the doctor fought it and told the hospital to f off and she was treated. If it wasnt for that doctor mom would not be here
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The murder and torture of my mother and i have the swift family tree and the hadids boasting how they have our house bugged and they sent my mother home twice when she had a failing liver murdering GPS gang stalking filth that swift family tree
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Susan Halbert, 83, was turned away from Glasgow's New Victoria Hospital
She was taken there by paramedics after she fell at her home and broke her arm
Doctors told her they would not see her because she was over 65-years-old
The pensioner was then taken to A&E, given a splint and then sent home

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

This is what leftie sociopaths are turning the UK into. What next, compulsory euthanasia for over 65s?
 Quoting: Tess.


Shame on UK. Is there not an Englishman with balls left in the country? He needs to drive out the Huns, the barbarians, the islamist and the socialists. England is officially not a civilized country.
I hope the pussies can at least round up some money to pay for a private doctor for her.
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!
Gimme a break.
Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.


Blame it on my ADD, baby...Sail


The election of Donald Trump didn't cause the hatred displayed by the progressive liberal left and democratic party. The election of Donald Trump exposed it.
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Get the UN out of the US.
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Damn. Just damn.

Honestly, I can't conceive of how someone tells someone obviously in pain and distress that they have to leave without care.
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She's lucky they didn't take her in and involuntarily harvest her organs for the benefit of the 'worthy'.
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She's past her Use By date.
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!
Gimme a break.
Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.


Blame it on my ADD, baby...Sail


The election of Donald Trump didn't cause the hatred displayed by the progressive liberal left and democratic party. The election of Donald Trump exposed it.
Donald Isaacson

Don't forget to have your Liberals spayed or neutered....Stolen

Get the UN out of the US.
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Doctors are some of the most arrogant clueless fucks you will ever come across
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Doctors are psychopaths, but that is to required to do the job.
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!
Gimme a break.
Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.


Blame it on my ADD, baby...Sail


The election of Donald Trump didn't cause the hatred displayed by the progressive liberal left and democratic party. The election of Donald Trump exposed it.
Donald Isaacson

Don't forget to have your Liberals spayed or neutered....Stolen

Get the UN out of the US.
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There are many, many tweets from liberal/lefties in the UK like this one:

Old white people dont deserve to be alive

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]

It's getting like Logan's Run.
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Their time is coming...they'll get what they deserve one way or another.

endofdays

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theres a war of attrition being waged in our health service
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Should never have allowed entry to inbred ethnic groups prone to birth defects.
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Didn't the Nazis also kill the infirm?

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and libs want socialized medicine here?
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The Liverpool Care Pathway for the Dying Patient (LCP) was a care pathway in the United Kingdom (excluding Wales) covering palliative care options for patients in the final days or hours of life. It was developed to help doctors and nurses provide quality end-of-life care, to transfer quality end-of-life care from the hospice to hospital setting.

Now discredited, the LCP was widely abused as a 'tick box exercise', with patients being casually assessed as terminal, heavily sedated, and denied water so the diagnosis became self-fulfilling. Hospitals were also provided cash incentives to achieve targets for the number of patients placed on the LCP.
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This is murder and while doctors & nurses think they get away with it, they will answer to God. Each one will answer for their body count. Leftists are evil incarnate.
Bad or missing keyboard. Press F1 to continue....
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Broken hip for old folk used to mean they would be put down (withhold fluids) until dead. Lost my grandmother to this. My grt grandmother, and an old wwii friend.

Care pathway they call it.
Assholes.
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I don’t get ignorant people who think the government denying you treatment is somehow better than not being able to afford treatment. Something can be done about not affording treatment (work harder or get charity). Nothing can be done about the government refusing treatment.
How do you solve a problem?

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The doctors have such a bad attitude that they need to go on piece work .
Not peace work but earn their money by the actual work they do . So 2 breaks £20 ...just joking about the price ..They do not have to provide the hospital ,the drugs .It is just their skills .They have it easy ...The ancient Sumerian doctors were not paid if the patient died .

They are entitled and get too much money ...

Never ,never pay dentists this way ...They will drill good tech to get the money ..I know this they tried to do this to one or my children when they were under 10 .
I became agitated as I could not see a hole in the tooth stopped dentists and they never had a filling ..

Any way back to the doctors .They should all have to take out personal insurance for their foul ups . The incompetent once would be triggered by the insurance system and would never gat any more insurance .It would also save the NHS paying out for hopeless doctors .

These doctors should be fined personally for cruelty .

This bad attitude to the elders who contributed to their free education is very ,very sad .

I would like to remind any medics here or any otheryoung people who are for this ...

Everyone ages .We should be kind to the poor ,the sick and the old ...

If you do not agree remember that if this goes the way the abortion thing went it is you guys who will be put down when you are sixty ..Not the oldies today .

Some big hearted person should bring a case against the actual doctors who did this to the elderly lady ...

I am actually uncertain whether the doctors swear the hypocritical oath like the oldie doctors did when they qualified ...this has failed the hypocratic oath ... How about fining the doctors personally £10,000 each ..This would most probably fix the problem ..

The thing is we need to have doctors with a vocation to heal ..not to get rich ..though good doctors with a vocation are worth the money .Physics should be one of the A levels as it helps problem solving ..aka diagnosis .

French Alevel for a pretty girl is just not good enough ...

Maybe we should have robots choose medical students ...?

They went through a patch of not choosing students who would have been fine as doctors ...Well they are basically idiots ...the people running the system not the candidates .Here they also do not require the new doctors to work here for a while and the go off to Canada,Australia and America .I knew new doctors who did this .


We are noe short of doctors ...suprise ,suprise ...Not .
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Susan Halbert, 83, was turned away from Glasgow's New Victoria Hospital
She was taken there by paramedics after she fell at her home and broke her arm
Doctors told her they would not see her because she was over 65-years-old
The pensioner was then taken to A&E, given a splint and then sent home

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

This is what leftie sociopaths are turning the UK into. What next, compulsory euthanasia for over 65s?
 Quoting: Tess.



What the fuck are you talking about? It is a hard right TORY government that is decimating our NHS. You do know they have been in government for nearly 10 years now right?

Even Tory Blair looked after the NHS, Labour's greatest achievement.
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Susan Halbert, 83, was turned away from Glasgow's New Victoria Hospital
She was taken there by paramedics after she fell at her home and broke her arm
Doctors told her they would not see her because she was over 65-years-old
The pensioner was then taken to A&E, given a splint and then sent home

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

This is what leftie sociopaths are turning the UK into. What next, compulsory euthanasia for over 65s?
 Quoting: Tess.


Not just UK... When I was scheduled for surgery for breast cancer and had to see my primary for clearance, he walked into the room and said... not hello, but, 'Who sent you for a mammogram?'... I said, 'What?', and he repeated his statement. Then said, 'You know you are going to die soon, so no reason to do anything like surgery...'

I had the surgery. I'm still here. If you want to know place in Ohio and doctor, message me and I will be glad to share.

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I read an article the other day claiming that by 2050 we will live up to 150 or even 200 years. Half scientists and doctors work to achieving this, and the other half to let the people over 65 die. We live in an insane world.

Living that long (over 150 years) doesnt help the economy, the demographics, the food sources, the living space etc.
We all understand that such technological advances cannot apply to all the senior people of the future. They just dont tell us.
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The problem and elephant in the room that we all avoid is that the human race needs poor people who can't afford to raise their kids to STOP HAVING KIDS.

We have more than enough uneducated poor people already.

In a bizarre twist of irony, the only people slowing their birth rate are educated (mainly white, European or euro descendent American) people with financial means to provide for their kids.
(Maybe they are getting sick of footing the bills for the masses of welfare leeches and their abundant offspring)

Flame on. I know the truth will inevitably piss some people off and ruin your little safe spaces.
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I'm not sure this is being told right. But when you break anything, there are two options: let it heal on its own with pain meds or have surgery. Folks over a certain age and/or in certain health are usually counseled about the risks of surgery (anesthesia)

What did this lady want? This articles never says anywhere she expected/demanded surgery so I think she was asked whether she wanted surgery and she probably declined, therefore, there was nothing doctors could do (and she took that as doctors refused to see her)
She did get a splint so...someone did see here after all. I think this story is being exaggerated.

I speak from first-hand experience. I fell off my bike (age 57) and broke my wrist in 3 places. I was asked if I wanted corrective surgery. I said no. They splinted me up, gave me pain meds and I went home.

So I think something similar might've happened here too.
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How is your wrist functioning now?
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My wrist never healed properly. My problem was my hip. I couldn't swing it over the seat of bike, so I took the fall along with the bike. I didn't want wrist surgery before hip surgery so I opted against it. Got my hip done and went home next morning. Hip is perfect. Wrist is wonky though (but....so is life :)

PS The OP story sounds bogus.
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wrist/hands are the worst as are too complex even surgeries in specialized centers fail continuosly.
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Susan Halbert, 83, was turned away from Glasgow's New Victoria Hospital
She was taken there by paramedics after she fell at her home and broke her arm
Doctors told her they would not see her because she was over 65-years-old
The pensioner was then taken to A&E, given a splint and then sent home

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

This is what leftie sociopaths are turning the UK into. What next, compulsory euthanasia for over 65s?
 Quoting: Tess.


Same thing happened to my grandmother last week in the US. She is 84 and has dementia. The neurologist says she has about 3 years left. She fell down broke her hip. She had surgery but the insurance (Aetna) wouldn't pay for acute rehabilitation and stuck her in post acute rehabilitation.
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This is for service she PAID FOR.

If someone is a paying customer, they need to provide the same level of service to anyone who pays the same amount, not base something on someone's age or other factor.
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she should have smeared black grease on her face first and said she was mulatto.
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I read an article the other day claiming that by 2050 we will live up to 150 or even 200 years. Half scientists and doctors work to achieving this, and the other half to let the people over 65 die. We live in an insane world.

Living that long (over 150 years) doesnt help the economy, the demographics, the food sources, the living space etc.
We all understand that such technological advances cannot apply to all the senior people of the future. They just dont tell us.
 Quoting: Ostria1


I was crunching the numbers a while back, and while people are living longer in some regions, we're still reaching the same level of decline by 65.

Meaning, we can't keep working until 80 just because we're living longer. We just have more "twilight years" now.
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