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Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stealth Euthanasia is happening across the country as the elderly and disabled are being targeted for early death and deemed unworthy of life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77725260 You have the right to question doctors and nurses decisions, refuse drugs and/or hospice altogether. There are other options available and it is our intention to give you knowledge about your rights. [link to ppjg.me (secure)] Time to wade in on this one.... Lets be crystal clear here... the VAST majority of hospices are....you guessed it for the terminally ill whether sooner or later. Your accusation of this being a stealth euthanasia facility is in my book quite disgraceful.. By making an ill informed blanket statement is quite incorrect and hurtful to the many people paid and in voluntary positions at these establishments. Im thinking that this web site/radio station has some sort of agenda.....It seems to just ask for Bad stories and nothing good..... I doubt the broadcast will be balanced... Quite the contrary... IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and a 1 star for the misery this thread WILL inflict on those that do have friends or relatives in their final stages of life!! IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This goes on everywhere not just hospice but in hospitals too Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77734512 The respect for persons is non existent today. Yep, and morphine overdose is VERY common! What is your evidence on this.... What experience have you had?? IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and a 1 star for the misery this thread WILL inflict on those that do have friends or relatives in their final stages of life!! Quoting: Cynical Realist They killed my stepdad yesterday--and you think this thread bothers me? No I wont STFU.... tell us your story!! Make the case... Im all ears. IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74661623 United States 06/26/2019 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and a 1 star for the misery this thread WILL inflict on those that do have friends or relatives in their final stages of life!! Quoting: Cynical Realist They killed my stepdad yesterday--and you think this thread bothers me? No I wont STFU.... tell us your story!! Make the case... Im all ears. What part of killed don't you understand? You must be in the Medical "Practice". Special place in Hell for you people. |
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Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and a 1 star for the misery this thread WILL inflict on those that do have friends or relatives in their final stages of life!! Quoting: Cynical Realist They killed my stepdad yesterday--and you think this thread bothers me? No I wont STFU.... tell us your story!! Make the case... Im all ears. What part of killed don't you understand? You must be in the Medical "Practice". Special place in Hell for you people. Irrelevant.... but Im still waiting to hear your experience and a case.....Im still ALL EARS!! IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76941272 United States 06/26/2019 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and a 1 star for the misery this thread WILL inflict on those that do have friends or relatives in their final stages of life!! Quoting: Cynical Realist They killed my stepdad yesterday--and you think this thread bothers me? No I wont STFU.... tell us your story!! Make the case... Im all ears. What part of killed don't you understand? You must be in the Medical "Practice". Special place in Hell for you people. If they killed him as you say, then you have proof? Or at the very least get a lawyer to press charges. I wonder though, who called hospice to attend to your step-father? And why? My guess was that he was dying and nothing could be done. Tell your story. Just saying they killed him is meaningless. |
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Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty much everything is meaningless these days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623 I'm done with you scum. Well thanks for sharing...... but again ..Im all ears and would listen to what youve got to contribute..... IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43718771 United States 06/26/2019 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stealth Euthanasia is happening across the country as the elderly and disabled are being targeted for early death and deemed unworthy of life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77725260 You have the right to question doctors and nurses decisions, refuse drugs and/or hospice altogether. There are other options available and it is our intention to give you knowledge about your rights. [link to ppjg.me (secure)] Time to wade in on this one.... Lets be crystal clear here... the VAST majority of hospices are....you guessed it for the terminally ill whether sooner or later. Your accusation of this being a stealth euthanasia facility is in my book quite disgraceful.. By making an ill informed blanket statement is quite incorrect and hurtful to the many people paid and in voluntary positions at these establishments. Im thinking that this web site/radio station has some sort of agenda.....It seems to just ask for Bad stories and nothing good..... I doubt the broadcast will be balanced... Quite the contrary... nope. in a controlled situation, the IV drips are running,propofol,whatever,slowing down the respiratory rate till they're dead. it's all explained away as pain control,with depressed respiration as the side effect. sure they're terminally ill and eventually they'll get around to simply giving it ""IV push "". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76346779 United States 06/26/2019 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This goes on everywhere not just hospice but in hospitals too Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77734512 The respect for persons is non existent today. Yep, and morphine overdose is VERY common! What is your evidence on this.... What experience have you had?? My mother and grandmother were killed this way. My mother was starved to death and denied water by the staff. She entered the hospice alert and awake within a week she was unresponsive by the end of a couple of months she was dead from starvation and dehydration. My grandmother was slipped enough pain killers to take down an elephant to prevent her from trying to walk to the toilet on her own. My mother’s biggest fear was that they would do to her what they did to my grandmother, in fact they did worse. I see the day coming where people are killed outright to save money by hospices, AND THE IDEA IS SOLD TO THE FAMILY AS NECESSARY.... |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stealth Euthanasia is happening across the country as the elderly and disabled are being targeted for early death and deemed unworthy of life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77725260 You have the right to question doctors and nurses decisions, refuse drugs and/or hospice altogether. There are other options available and it is our intention to give you knowledge about your rights. [link to ppjg.me (secure)] Time to wade in on this one.... Lets be crystal clear here... the VAST majority of hospices are....you guessed it for the terminally ill whether sooner or later. Your accusation of this being a stealth euthanasia facility is in my book quite disgraceful.. By making an ill informed blanket statement is quite incorrect and hurtful to the many people paid and in voluntary positions at these establishments. Im thinking that this web site/radio station has some sort of agenda.....It seems to just ask for Bad stories and nothing good..... I doubt the broadcast will be balanced... Quite the contrary... nope. in a controlled situation, the IV drips are running,propofol,whatever,slowing down the respiratory rate till they're dead. it's all explained away as pain control,with depressed respiration as the side effect. sure they're terminally ill and eventually they'll get around to simply giving it ""IV push "". Ok question.... Whats your understanding of Propofol and why its administered... Oh and its never given solely but as a mix with other EOL medications... Another question...When is it NOT given... Your assumption of Propoful being the main pain suppressant isnt accurate. IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 06/26/2019 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hospice was very helpful to me when my parents were dying. Quoting: MissCleo They were angels who gave me support and bathed them and made the whole process peaceful. People should not have to struggle in their final days. Or be in excrutiating pain. Yup. My dad had cancer and was in severe pain and not getting better. The hospital let him overdose on morphing. This was over 30 years ago and it was a blessing. Better to drift off then to be screaming in pain. |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 77755880 United Kingdom 06/26/2019 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This goes on everywhere not just hospice but in hospitals too Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77734512 The respect for persons is non existent today. Yep, and morphine overdose is VERY common! What is your evidence on this.... What experience have you had?? My mother and grandmother were killed this way. My mother was starved to death and denied water by the staff. She entered the hospice alert and awake within a week she was unresponsive by the end of a couple of months she was dead from starvation and dehydration. My grandmother was slipped enough pain killers to take down an elephant to prevent her from trying to walk to the toilet on her own. My mother’s biggest fear was that they would do to her what they did to my grandmother, in fact they did worse. I see the day coming where people are killed outright to save money by hospices, AND THE IDEA IS SOLD TO THE FAMILY AS NECESSARY.... Thanks for sharing this Masiro... I hope you have had some closure to your bereavement. How long ago did this happen.. There is a reason I ask. Of course I can only state the facts based on the UK`s practices... Even in the last few years there have been major changes to how EOL (end of life) care is administered... Yes its still a learning curve with many obstacles still to clear.. What you have stated "starvation and dehydration." has been a cause for concern for many years... but fortunatley this is now not the case as older mind sets have changed.... IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72985280 United States 06/26/2019 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I worked with a woman whose father was about to die of dehydration. She and her father were both refugees from the former Soviet Union. Her father wanted a particular doctor who spoke his native language. He went into the hospital with something minor, and before too long the Dr was saying to prepare for his death. When she complained the Dr suggested she see a psychologist because she was in denial. Instead by some miracle she was able to transfer him to a different hospital. They told her he was severely dehydrated and he was fine after an saline IV drip for a few days. This happened in the 1990. I think it is even more common now. |
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