Not a Single Mention of Jesus ANYWHERE in The Dead Sea Scrolls. Prove Me Wrong. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70669603 United States 06/27/2019 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70669603 You lost the right to capital punishment in the days of the romans. This wasn’t supposed to happen before the coming of the messiah. Is God a liar? Time of that prophesy after time of Babylonian exile. Your religious leaders put on sack cloths and ash and mourned the worded being broken. Daniels 69 week prophesy was fulfilled to the day and y’all failed to see it. That’s why you are blinded Any proof? The OT says the exact OPPOSITE, that when Messiah comes, Je.ws will regain their Sovereignty. Did jesus come during the Babylonian Exile? Cause we lost our Judicial Sovereignty back then as well. Try harder you fucking enemy of Israel. Time of that prophesy after time of Babylonian exile. Your religious leaders put on sack cloths and ash and mourned the worded being broken. Daniels 69 week prophesy was fulfilled to the day and y’all failed to see it. That’s why you are blinded jesus is not in Daniel 9. You are parroting age old christian lies. Does Daniel 9 speak of messiah? If yes how do you explain his absence after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem? |
DPS7 (OP) User ID: 77754542 Israel 06/27/2019 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DPS7 Time of that prophesy after time of Babylonian exile. Your religious leaders put on sack cloths and ash and mourned the worded being broken. Daniels 69 week prophesy was fulfilled to the day and y’all failed to see it. That’s why you are blinded Any proof? The OT says the exact OPPOSITE, that when Messiah comes, Je.ws will regain their Sovereignty. Did jesus come during the Babylonian Exile? Cause we lost our Judicial Sovereignty back then as well. Try harder you fucking enemy of Israel. Time of that prophesy after time of Babylonian exile. Your religious leaders put on sack cloths and ash and mourned the worded being broken. Daniels 69 week prophesy was fulfilled to the day and y’all failed to see it. That’s why you are blinded jesus is not in Daniel 9. You are parroting age old christian lies. Does Daniel 9 speak of messiah? If yes how do you explain his absence after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem? It speaks of 2 messiahs as in A messiah, not of THE Messiah. Messiah Prince = Cyrus who gave the order to rebuild the Temple and the City. Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; A messiah CUT OFF (cut off is punishment btw) = Saducee priesthood. And he that is the high priest among his brethren, upon whose head the anointing oil was poured, and that is consecrated to put on the garments, shall not uncover his head, nor rend his clothes; |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70669603 United States 06/27/2019 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70669603 Time of that prophesy after time of Babylonian exile. Your religious leaders put on sack cloths and ash and mourned the worded being broken. Daniels 69 week prophesy was fulfilled to the day and y’all failed to see it. That’s why you are blinded jesus is not in Daniel 9. You are parroting age old christian lies. Does Daniel 9 speak of messiah? If yes how do you explain his absence after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem? It speaks of 2 messiahs as in A messiah, not of THE Messiah. Messiah Prince = Cyrus who gave the order to rebuild the Temple and the City. Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; A messiah CUT OFF (cut off is punishment btw) = Saducee priesthood. And he that is the high priest among his brethren, upon whose head the anointing oil was poured, and that is consecrated to put on the garments, shall not uncover his head, nor rend his clothes; Wow. So it “the” messiah when it fits your narrative and “a” messiah when it doesn’t. Earlier I pointed out here are 2 comings of Christ and you said nah but here you say 2 messiahs. You are he one running in circles and unable to defend the lies you have been taught. If you are correct in your ways God is a liar and his entire word is worthless. Accept the truth and be saved. You have no other option. You have no place for your son offering. You had to change your religion to make it fit your lies instead of accepting the truth. Enjoy your Jesus bashing’s, I am done with you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50268625 United States 06/27/2019 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DPS7 Essenes believed in jesus? Or did they believe in Messiah like all J,ews do? So how do you assume their Messiah is "In other words, jesus." ?? You are circular logic'ing like mad. I take it on faith and I believe the text describes Jesus. Just my belief. You don't have to like it. I believe John The Baptist was an Essene and recognized Jesus for who He was when He came to the Jordan. Just my beliefs. Now, quick, make fun of me. The essences were a closed society. They took am oath to join. Only those is their cult were saved or justified They DESPISED the outside world They followed the writings of the Righteous Teacher. Yes I know but at the very least John was heavily influenced by them. There are many things they have in common. I believe John was either raised with them or lived with them for a time and then broke away to begin his ministry. Just my belief due to the many similarities. Herod CLEARLY favored the essenses. John could have been am ex esssene. The essenes probably were as opposed to the Evangelists as the Pharisee. Possibly more The essenes had a strict hierarchy. You had to take an oath. The evangelists said never take an oath. The brought salvation to the masses as opposed to only their members |
DPS7 (OP) User ID: 77754542 Israel 06/27/2019 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does Daniel 9 speak of messiah? If yes how do you explain his absence after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem? It speaks of 2 messiahs as in A messiah, not of THE Messiah. Messiah Prince = Cyrus who gave the order to rebuild the Temple and the City. Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; A messiah CUT OFF (cut off is punishment btw) = Saducee priesthood. And he that is the high priest among his brethren, upon whose head the anointing oil was poured, and that is consecrated to put on the garments, shall not uncover his head, nor rend his clothes; Wow. So it “the” messiah when it fits your narrative and “a” messiah when it doesn’t. Earlier I pointed out here are 2 comings of Christ and you said nah but here you say 2 messiahs. You are he one running in circles and unable to defend the lies you have been taught. If you are correct in your ways God is a liar and his entire word is worthless. Accept the truth and be saved. You have no other option. You have no place for your son offering. You had to change your religion to make it fit your lies instead of accepting the truth. Enjoy your Jesus bashing’s, I am done with you Messiah = Anointed. Find me ONE verse in the OT with that word Messiah/Anointed, that is CLEARY speaking of THE Messiah in context. You will not find it. The only reason you call jesus, christos, is because we Je,ws call our savior THE Anointed, even though the OT NEVER calls him that. All appearances of the word "Anointed" never refer to The Savior in the end of time. You are straw manning and grabbing for straws. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77762657 United States 06/27/2019 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 90% of the world's geo politics if based on religion and faith... 75% (Guesstimation) of people's politics is based on belief of this stupid false messiah. People care... I bet you do too. You are just butthurt, so you brush it off by saying you "don't care" Your time is up. Ok..lets say I gave a shit. What do you expect me or any single person to do against the worldwide juggernaut of multi generational bullshit? Sit here and whinge about it like you? Its like screaming at a cloud for daring to rain on you. Thats what I meant by "RETARD". Cause thats exactly what you are doing. And while you are at it...go pick on the koran too. They fuck gots..children..and blow shit up. How come yu dont give a fuck about them? I don't expect anything from anyone. I know exactly what I am doing. Destroying the collective psyche of Christendom. It takes time. A lot of time. Each thread like this is like a drop of water eating away at a rock, slowly... Every knee shall bow, Synagogue of Satan Pharisee. |
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DPS7 (OP) User ID: 77754542 Israel 06/27/2019 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DPS7 90% of the world's geo politics if based on religion and faith... 75% (Guesstimation) of people's politics is based on belief of this stupid false messiah. People care... I bet you do too. You are just butthurt, so you brush it off by saying you "don't care" Your time is up. Ok..lets say I gave a shit. What do you expect me or any single person to do against the worldwide juggernaut of multi generational bullshit? Sit here and whinge about it like you? Its like screaming at a cloud for daring to rain on you. Thats what I meant by "RETARD". Cause thats exactly what you are doing. And while you are at it...go pick on the koran too. They fuck gots..children..and blow shit up. How come yu dont give a fuck about them? I don't expect anything from anyone. I know exactly what I am doing. Destroying the collective psyche of Christendom. It takes time. A lot of time. Each thread like this is like a drop of water eating away at a rock, slowly... Every knee shall bow, Synagogue of Satan Pharisee. The OT says "Every knee shall bow to the Tetragrammaton" NT says "to jesus". So we will see. Gog and Magog, that war Israel wins... Is when you go fighting THINKING you are fighting the anti christ and his synagogue of satan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75583697 United States 06/27/2019 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already know your shtick. Quoting: DPS7 Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man". So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel. "Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch. Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS. So... Prove me wrong. I’ve seen your type flee at his name. All proof I need. I dont flee at his name,I am ok with a man named jesus who had a number of followers who believed he was a son of god or a third of a god. I just dont buy anything supernatural, gods, aliens, big foot. |
SyncAsFunk User ID: 77729778 United States 06/27/2019 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gog and Magog, that war Israel wins... Is when you go fighting THINKING you are fighting the anti christ and his synagogue of satan. Quoting: DPS7 That war began long ago but has accelerated with the creation of the State of Israel. Gog and Magog are the usurpers of Judaism. 'Israel' isn't a chunk of land. :) Some Will. Some won't. So....... |
DPS7 (OP) User ID: 77754542 Israel 06/27/2019 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gog and Magog, that war Israel wins... Is when you go fighting THINKING you are fighting the anti christ and his synagogue of satan. Quoting: DPS7 That war began long ago but has accelerated with the creation of the State of Israel. Gog and Magog are the usurpers of Judaism. 'Israel' isn't a chunk of land. :) Who has usurped Judaism? Surely... You must be talking about "New Israel"... Those who are now part of Israel (they wish) because they believe in the supposed King of the J,ews... who also conviniently allows them to keep their Gentile hellenistic way of life. |
SyncAsFunk User ID: 77729778 United States 06/27/2019 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gog and Magog, that war Israel wins... Is when you go fighting THINKING you are fighting the anti christ and his synagogue of satan. Quoting: DPS7 That war began long ago but has accelerated with the creation of the State of Israel. Gog and Magog are the usurpers of Judaism. 'Israel' isn't a chunk of land. :) Who has usurped Judaism? Who doesn't have a drop of Semitic dna? Last Edited by SyncAsFunk on 06/27/2019 12:06 PM Some Will. Some won't. So....... |
DPS7 (OP) User ID: 77754542 Israel 06/27/2019 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gog and Magog, that war Israel wins... Is when you go fighting THINKING you are fighting the anti christ and his synagogue of satan. Quoting: DPS7 That war began long ago but has accelerated with the creation of the State of Israel. Gog and Magog are the usurpers of Judaism. 'Israel' isn't a chunk of land. :) Who has usurped Judaism? Who doesn't have a drop of Semitic dna? Why did you censor the quote? Wasn't good for your agenda eh? If blood is required to join Israel (Conversion to Judaism = A citizenship of Biblical Israel). Then how come Ruth joined? How come Jethro was offered to join? How come many others have joined? |
TheLordsServant User ID: 77765096 United States 06/27/2019 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Messiah = Anointed. Quoting: DPS7 Find me ONE verse in the OT with that word Messiah/Anointed, that is CLEARY speaking of THE Messiah in context. You will not find it. The only reason you call jesus, christos, is because we Je,ws call our savior THE Anointed, even though the OT NEVER calls him that. All appearances of the word "Anointed" never refer to The Savior in the end of time. You are straw manning and grabbing for straws. The biggest problem with you Pharisees is that you FAIL to understand that it's NOT YOU who does the "annointing". It's Father God. How many times did your ancestors annoint someone...and then FAIL. The Father SENT His SON - proclaiming everlasting life - and annointed Him. Your ancestors rejected Him. They paid a price for the rejection. You modern day Pharisees just MAY do the same. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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DPS7 (OP) User ID: 77754542 Israel 06/27/2019 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Messiah = Anointed. Quoting: DPS7 Find me ONE verse in the OT with that word Messiah/Anointed, that is CLEARY speaking of THE Messiah in context. You will not find it. The only reason you call jesus, christos, is because we Je,ws call our savior THE Anointed, even though the OT NEVER calls him that. All appearances of the word "Anointed" never refer to The Savior in the end of time. You are straw manning and grabbing for straws. The biggest problem with you Pharisees is that you FAIL to understand that it's NOT YOU who does the "annointing". It's Father God. How many times did your ancestors annoint someone...and then FAIL. The Father SENT His SON - proclaiming everlasting life - and annointed Him. Your ancestors rejected Him. They paid a price for the rejection. You modern day Pharisees just MAY do the same. Can you prove G-d anointed jesus? |
SyncAsFunk User ID: 77729778 United States 06/27/2019 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SyncAsFunk That war began long ago but has accelerated with the creation of the State of Israel. Gog and Magog are the usurpers of Judaism. 'Israel' isn't a chunk of land. :) Who has usurped Judaism? Who doesn't have a drop of Semitic dna? Why did you censor the quote? Wasn't good for your agenda eh? If blood is required to join Israel (Conversion to Judaism = A citizenship of Biblical Israel). Then how come Ruth joined? How come Jethro was offered to join? How come many others have joined? Enjoy your agenda. :) Some Will. Some won't. So....... |
DPS7 (OP) User ID: 77754542 Israel 06/27/2019 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did you censor the quote? Wasn't good for your agenda eh? If blood is required to join Israel (Conversion to Judaism = A citizenship of Biblical Israel). Then how come Ruth joined? How come Jethro was offered to join? How come many others have joined? Enjoy your agenda. :) So you see... Christians claim to be Israel. Yet they don't want to go through the LEGAL way of getting citizenship. This is why G-d is flooding your nations with ILLEGAL immigrants. You rip what you sow. |
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Schmoopee User ID: 77442918 United States 06/27/2019 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may... Quoting: Schmoopee [link to blogs.timesofisrael.com (secure)] From the moment of their discovery, some scholars suggested that at least some of the scrolls may be the work of early Christians. After all, a certain “Teacher of Righteousness” is mentioned as a persecuted figure and there is also a “Wicked Priest” and other characters that seem to mirror early Christianity. Most scholars, however, have dismissed any connection between the community that hid their scroll library some 2,000 years ago in caves at Qumran and the earliest followers of Jesus. Now, I’ve made a discovery that may change all this. Put simply, I believe that one of the fragments called by scholars by the very unappealing name of “4Q541” explicitly refers to Jesus. Seems the scholars chose to cherry pick what words they'd translate. He also said that scholars prefer not to translate “Talia”/crucifixion because the first letter of the word is not clear. When I pointed out that many words in The Dead Sea Scrolls are translated even though they are missing a letter, he shrugged and said, “depends on the word.” It's funny that most want to make claims that the Bible is not true because "man wrote it"; but, will take the word of so-called scholars as the gospel truth. You are that desperate. "Teacher of Righteousness" Let's guess... A mythological leader of the Dead Sea sect... Or Jesus. First, let's get His name right: Yeshua. This is a bit off topic; however, since you are "destroying the collective psyche of Christendom", this may help you out. Trust me, Christians are not going to like this teaching one bit. The name used ONE TIME by JOSHUA Ben Joseph is not Yeshua.. its not Jesus now actually.. Most of you have had many lives with several names.. so which one is it you should use. THINK. There were two that shared that glorified meat suit of those days … Esu Immanuel Sananda Kumara and Christ Michael Aton .. the Creator Son of our LOCAL universe… I know them both… I use Esu for the one as my daily name of contact.. and simply Christ.. per his request of our Michael… His name actually takes half a sheet of paper using print to write the syllables.. and its actually SUNG so we use of course a shortened version.. One day his name will be sung on this world. It is time to live in the NOW and grow your spirits into actual thinking minds rather than copy cat parroting. Yea are only begotten Sons of the Father.. not parrots. Parrots are birds. Okay... Well, at the moment we call Him Yeshua. He was given a Hebrew name and that's the way the Hebrew is pronounced. Yet, it is written that He will be coming bearing a new name. Rev. 19:11-13. If you look at verse 13, it says: "and having been dressed in a robe dipped in blood - and His Name is called: The Word of YHWH." What's the Word of YHWH? The Torah. Scripture proves that Yeshua is the walking, talking Torah: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and pitched His tend among us, and we saw His esteem, esteem as of an only brought-forth of a father, complete in favour and truth. John 14:6 Yeshua said to him, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Psalm 119:142 Your righteousness is righteousness forever, And Your Torah is Truth. Here's a teaching on the name: |
SyncAsFunk User ID: 77729778 United States 06/27/2019 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did you censor the quote? Wasn't good for your agenda eh? If blood is required to join Israel (Conversion to Judaism = A citizenship of Biblical Israel). Then how come Ruth joined? How come Jethro was offered to join? How come many others have joined? Enjoy your agenda. :) This is why G-d is flooding your nations with ILLEGAL immigrants. You rip what you sow. There are those that know why. PEOPLE are catching on "'rip' what you sow", in deed. :) Some Will. Some won't. So....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76832089 United States 06/27/2019 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 16. And mention in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew from her people to an eastern location. 17. She screened herself away from them, and We sent to her Our spirit, and He appeared to her as an immaculate human. 18. She said, “I take refuge from you in the Most Merciful, should you be righteous.” 19. He said, “I am only the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son.” 20. She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?” 21. He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign for humanity, and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'“ Jesus in the Koran. Even Muslims won’t deny he was born. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76832089 United States 06/27/2019 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Daniel 2:45 “Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.” Jesus breaks the nations to pieces., |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77580451 United States 06/27/2019 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same old rabbinist back with the same old rabbinist straw man. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546824 For Christians, it matters not whether Jesus is in the Dead Sea scrolls. It matters that he is in the New Testament and that, in that, it matters that he fullfils the messianic prophecies in the Old Testament. It matters that the top theological (and agnostic/atheistic) scholars consider these writings to be 1st century Jewish writings, that they believe the resurrection to be a fact and that the Dead Sea scrolls show that the OT writings which we were previously told were changed or written later to add Jesus, were not. As for Jewish tradition on the ‘son of man’, your traditions are babble. Your traditions rely on one rabbi being of more importance than another. Your late 1st century religion relies not on what scripture says, but rather what men say about the scripture. You’re in no position to lecture. Was Ezekiel the state of Israel? No, he wasn’t. But he is referred to as the ‘son of man’. cool story bro |
Schmoopee User ID: 77442918 United States 06/27/2019 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73877373 Yes but the word of God hasn’t been broken therefor making him a liar in our waiting. God is a liar if he hasn’t come based on your text. Read your word. It clearly points to 2 coming of your messiah. He must suffer and be cut off. Can’t be cut off and sit on the throne forever in one coming. No it doesn't. You lost the right to capital punishment in the days of the romans. This wasn’t supposed to happen before the coming of the messiah. Is God a liar? Any proof? The OT says the exact OPPOSITE, that when Messiah comes, Je.ws will regain their Sovereignty. Did jesus come during the Babylonian Exile? Cause we lost our Judicial Sovereignty back then as well. Try harder you fucking enemy of Israel. No...Israel will regain Sovereignty. Remember Judah is only 1/12 of the whole. Remember, also, Yeshua came for the "lost sheep of Israel", not just for Judah. Ten were scattered and two remained in the land: Judah, and Benjamin; which, assimilated with Judah. When Yeshua came, He was only speaking to Judah. There were no gentiles or pagans in the Temple. He was calling out the hypocrisy of the Talmudic leaders. Think about it how many times He blasted them with "woe to you, you hypocrites"? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76751667 United States 06/27/2019 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rothchildistan has nothing to do with the true aesir isle, or our father Ahura Mazda. In 5,000 years Jesus is still remembered, Rothschilds Israel is not. Besides the gathering place of the tribes of the aesir isle is Oahu, hawaii. The moops of a beaucoup [link to www.sharedwisdom.com] Eshstuvmnh Sopithoqua. Twice removed |
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~Newton's Own~ User ID: 68697376 United States 06/27/2019 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just typical arrogance from those who don't understand faith. Their world is ruled by things like logic and proof, everything has to be proven and logical, to their minds. Blessed are they who believe without seeing, and they can't get that. At least, not yet. Many of them will turn to the truth before the end though. A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77764849 Netherlands 06/27/2019 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already know your shtick. Quoting: DPS7 Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man". So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel. "Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch. Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS. So... Prove me wrong. I’ve seen your type flee at his name. All proof I need. I dont flee at his name,I am ok with a man named jesus who had a number of followers who believed he was a son of god or a third of a god. I just dont buy anything supernatural, gods, aliens, big foot. You dont have to flee if you believe in aliens They will only want to kill you if you believe in G-d instead of JC |