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This is not about Port of Call laws. This is about the international maritime laws agreed upon and signed by every nation on the planet in 1982, including Iran.

Any nation that goes rouge against that agreement with armed forces action will have every nation on the planet given full authorization to wage war instantly. This is above and beyond anything even the United nations has done with their edicts.
 Quoting: tkwasny


really?
Are you military?
Or a maritime lawyer?
Where does this info come from? Common sense?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo


How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources?
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Become a hegemon. Then, you can put your navy wherever you want. That's how it has worked since time immemorial. You think Xerxes the Great gave a damn about the Greeks' maritime rights when he burned Athens to the ground?

Iran doesn't own the Persian Gulf, we will not be paying any tribute to them, and you can call people hypocrites on GLP all day long and none of that is going to change.

And no, I would not consider Iranian navy in the Gulf of Mexico an act of war unless, of course, they entered our territorial waters without permission or fired on somebody. They even said they were going to send ships over here earlier this year to Cuba, and the response was a great big yawn. They never made it, incidentally.
 Quoting: Revbo™


always love it when people call the use an empire, and point out they have military bases all over the world not for th eBS line to protect freedom, but to protect the US empire

and you tards all say "the US is not an empire!!"

then when rubber hits the round, you all proudly assert not only is the US is an empire but assert the US empire's right to steal resources from sovereign nations through military force and bombs and death.

nothing say peace freedom and linerty for all like "we are a hegemony bitch and we'll fucking drop bombs and missiles on your citizens and take whatever the fuck we want from you"

ah freedom and liberty and democracy for all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die.

Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then

got it

the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit

nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

you sound like the police state
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die.

The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption.
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My government doesn't really fuck with my life. I own what I want. Iran however....needs to be put ion their place. Especially if they can't shut their trap. A lot like you.

Why don't you do us all a favor and STFU.

want
 Quoting: Chip

If you have a social security number you own nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76287971


I'm okay with that. 1dunno1

The semblance works for me. I came into this world with nothing...I'll go out the same way.
 Quoting: Chip


chip is also fine with the government regulating weapons and telling citizens what weapons they can and cannot have

which is weird for a dude with an assault rifle in his sig
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


I'm not okay that. Just because you're a dumbfuck and you don't understand my point doesn't mean you can put words in my mouth.

Got it you little cunt?!!

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always love it when people call the use an empire, and point out they have military bases all over the world not for th eBS line to protect freedom, but to protect the US empire

and you tards all say "the US is not an empire!!"

then when rubber hits the round, you all proudly assert not only is the US is an empire but assert the US empire's right to steal resources from sovereign nations through military force and bombs and death.

nothing say peace freedom and linerty for all like "we are a hegemony bitch and we'll fucking drop bombs and missiles on your citizens and take whatever the fuck we want from you"

ah freedom and liberty and democracy for all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die.

Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then

got it

the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit

nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

you sound like the police state
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die.

The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption.
 Quoting: KITt 76127092


uhhh that's not the official US narrative there charlie... the US prides itslef on protectign freedom and demcoracy for people all over the globe

why do you think the US wants to help the people of venezuela? they claim the venezuela's freedoms are being infringed upon.

why did we need to get rid of saddam? freedom for Iraq remember?

and on and on

the US claims it has military bases all over the globe to help protect GLOBAL freedom and democracy for ALL.

soooooooooo NOPE
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really?
Are you military?
Or a maritime lawyer?
Where does this info come from? Common sense?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo


How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from.

We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption.

1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor.

2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1.

We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal.
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If you have a social security number you own nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76287971


I'm okay with that. 1dunno1

The semblance works for me. I came into this world with nothing...I'll go out the same way.
 Quoting: Chip


chip is also fine with the government regulating weapons and telling citizens what weapons they can and cannot have

which is weird for a dude with an assault rifle in his sig
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


I'm not okay that. Just because you're a dumbfuck and you don't understand my point doesn't mean you can put words in my mouth.

Got it you little cunt?!!
 Quoting: Chip


but you said:

My government doesn't really fuck with my life. I own what I want.

 Quoting: Chip


and yet your government tells you you cannot have bump stocks and is trying to make it so you cannot own assault rifles.

and you implied the government does nothing and leaves what you own alone.

yet you rant and rave about the govt trying to tell you that you cannot own assault rifles.

soooooooo

NOPE
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really?
Are you military?
Or a maritime lawyer?
Where does this info come from? Common sense?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo



Good luck with the argument that religious laws that only apply to Muslims have to be obeyed by every other country in the world...


But you made a great point, Iranians feel they are above all the maritime laws and treaties they have signed in the past and that they don't have to abide by any of them...

I cannot wait until they attack the first civilian vessel and sink it for not paying their tolls...
 Quoting: Masiro®


POINT: There has to be a clear case that Iran violated LAW. If it comes down to it, the US cannot attack Iran because the holder of Islamic High Court (Saudi) will stand by Sharia LAW over ANY other law (that's their LAW). Non-secular (not "religious" law, this is their GOVERNMENTAL LAW).

SO... in order to go to WAR... the US has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran is in violation. And we cannot at this point.

THEREFORE: more of the same until someone (Iran) uses force against the ones not sharing jizya (protection tax) with them... because Iran is really broke (sanctions) and needs the money.

IF: Saudi shares jizya with Iran then Saudi violates sanctions imposed by US.

see where this is going?
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Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo


How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from.

We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption.

1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor.

2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1.

We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


thank you for proving my point to Revbo about how when you tell people the US is an empire they say "no it's not"

then you yourself said the US owns all the resources of the world, it all belongs to us... that is not an empire?

and again you sound exactly like the deep state globalist police state "we do what we want and we will murder you if you challenge us"

what a true patriot you are as you perfectly spew totalitarian NWO deep state talking points!
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Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die.

Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then

got it

the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit

nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

you sound like the police state
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die.

The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption.
 Quoting: KITt 76127092


uhhh that's not the official US narrative there charlie... the US prides itslef on protectign freedom and demcoracy for people all over the globe

why do you think the US wants to help the people of venezuela? they claim the venezuela's freedoms are being infringed upon.

why did we need to get rid of saddam? freedom for Iraq remember?

and on and on

the US claims it has military bases all over the globe to help protect GLOBAL freedom and democracy for ALL.

soooooooooo NOPE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426



Thats just what we tell you. It makes it easier to print green pieces of paper to trade for your shit.

We really dont fucking care about your peace and safety. All those American military bases are for protecting America and securing GLOBAL resources for our consumption.

And you think we are going to let Iran dictate to us. They are fucking dead.
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Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo



Good luck with the argument that religious laws that only apply to Muslims have to be obeyed by every other country in the world...


But you made a great point, Iranians feel they are above all the maritime laws and treaties they have signed in the past and that they don't have to abide by any of them...

I cannot wait until they attack the first civilian vessel and sink it for not paying their tolls...
 Quoting: Masiro®


POINT: There has to be a clear case that Iran violated LAW. If it comes down to it, the US cannot attack Iran because the holder of Islamic High Court (Saudi) will stand by Sharia LAW over ANY other law (that's their LAW). Non-secular (not "religious" law, this is their GOVERNMENTAL LAW).

SO... in order to go to WAR... the US has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran is in violation. And we cannot at this point.

THEREFORE: more of the same until someone (Iran) uses force against the ones not sharing jizya (protection tax) with them... because Iran is really broke (sanctions) and needs the money.

IF: Saudi shares jizya with Iran then Saudi violates sanctions imposed by US.

see where this is going?
 Quoting: MissCleo


why do you care what other countries do?

I thought you were an america first nationalist?

why do you gie a FUCK what any middle eastern country does?

oh right cuz muslims scare you
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so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then

got it

the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit

nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you."

you sound like the police state
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die.

The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption.
 Quoting: KITt 76127092


uhhh that's not the official US narrative there charlie... the US prides itslef on protectign freedom and demcoracy for people all over the globe

why do you think the US wants to help the people of venezuela? they claim the venezuela's freedoms are being infringed upon.

why did we need to get rid of saddam? freedom for Iraq remember?

and on and on

the US claims it has military bases all over the globe to help protect GLOBAL freedom and democracy for ALL.

soooooooooo NOPE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426



Thats just what we tell you. It makes it easier to print green pieces of paper to trade for your shit.

We really dont fucking care about your peace and safety. All those American military bases are for protecting America and securing GLOBAL resources for our consumption.

And you think we are going to let Iran dictate to us. They are fucking dead.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


yeah no shit sherlock that is the point I have been making

not real quick on sarcasm and writing mechanisms are ya

the US military cna fuck people up... you, on the other hand... can't do shit... and I bet even that lezbo soccer player could twist you up til you were face down and ass up crying uncle!!!

mr.big bad US military gonna kill you man!!! sooooooooooo scary and tough online!
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Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo


How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from.

We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption.

1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor.

2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1.

We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


thank you for proving my point to Revbo about how when you tell people the US is an empire they say "no it's not"

then you yourself said the US owns all the resources of the world, it all belongs to us... that is not an empire?

and again you sound exactly like the deep state globalist police state "we do what we want and we will murder you if you challenge us"

what a true patriot you are as you perfectly spew totalitarian NWO deep state talking points!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


I dont think you understand what an empire actually is.

An empire annexes more land and "colonizes" that land.

America is not interested in your turd world shit holes. We dont want to colonize the world. We just want your mineral wealth. The shit in the ground that you dont know how to use or mine.

Thats why our military is global. We just want your resources. WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF COLONIZING YOUR LANDS.

We do however have no qualms with bombing the fuck out of you. Until you submit and plundering your shit for our use.
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I'm okay with that. 1dunno1

The semblance works for me. I came into this world with nothing...I'll go out the same way.
 Quoting: Chip


chip is also fine with the government regulating weapons and telling citizens what weapons they can and cannot have

which is weird for a dude with an assault rifle in his sig
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


I'm not okay that. Just because you're a dumbfuck and you don't understand my point doesn't mean you can put words in my mouth.

Got it you little cunt?!!
 Quoting: Chip


but you said:

My government doesn't really fuck with my life. I own what I want.

 Quoting: Chip


and yet your government tells you you cannot have bump stocks and is trying to make it so you cannot own assault rifles.

and you implied the government does nothing and leaves what you own alone.

yet you rant and rave about the govt trying to tell you that you cannot own assault rifles.

soooooooo

NOPE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


I never "ranted and raved" about that. You must have me mistaken with somebody else.

Time to sit down and STFU. You're derailing and I'm getting tired of your ghey shit. You make less sense with every post. I verbally put you in a corner...please stay there.

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Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo


How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from.

We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption.

1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor.

2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1.

We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


Then it's called a dictatorship?
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
 Quoting: MissCleo



Good luck with the argument that religious laws that only apply to Muslims have to be obeyed by every other country in the world...


But you made a great point, Iranians feel they are above all the maritime laws and treaties they have signed in the past and that they don't have to abide by any of them...

I cannot wait until they attack the first civilian vessel and sink it for not paying their tolls...
 Quoting: Masiro®


POINT: There has to be a clear case that Iran violated LAW. If it comes down to it, the US cannot attack Iran because the holder of Islamic High Court (Saudi) will stand by Sharia LAW over ANY other law (that's their LAW). Non-secular (not "religious" law, this is their GOVERNMENTAL LAW).

SO... in order to go to WAR... the US has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran is in violation. And we cannot at this point.

THEREFORE: more of the same until someone (Iran) uses force against the ones not sharing jizya (protection tax) with them... because Iran is really broke (sanctions) and needs the money.

IF: Saudi shares jizya with Iran then Saudi violates sanctions imposed by US.

see where this is going?
 Quoting: MissCleo


why do you care what other countries do?

I thought you were an america first nationalist?

why do you gie a FUCK what any middle eastern country does?

oh right cuz muslims scare you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Cause he's a human being.
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from.

We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption.

1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor.

2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1.

We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


thank you for proving my point to Revbo about how when you tell people the US is an empire they say "no it's not"

then you yourself said the US owns all the resources of the world, it all belongs to us... that is not an empire?

and again you sound exactly like the deep state globalist police state "we do what we want and we will murder you if you challenge us"

what a true patriot you are as you perfectly spew totalitarian NWO deep state talking points!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


I dont think you understand what an empire actually is.

An empire annexes more land and "colonizes" that land.

America is not interested in your turd world shit holes. We dont want to colonize the world. We just want your mineral wealth. The shit in the ground that you dont know how to use or mine.

Thats why our military is global. We just want your resources. WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF COLONIZING YOUR LANDS.

We do however have no qualms with bombing the fuck out of you. Until you submit and plundering your shit for our use.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


Colonizing the land to use it's resources and put military bases.
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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so you don't like the US govt telling YOU what weapons you can own for defense

but you have no problem with the same US govt telling other people what weapons they cannot have for defense

got it

you're a hypocrite
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999843


not a "hypocrite", we're America.

America First!!


flag waver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


yeah you are a hypocrite

if you do not like the US govt telling YOU what weapons you can and cannot have

but you have no problem with the same US govt telling others what weapons they can and cannot have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77488684


Hmm interesting
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


...


so you don't like the US govt telling YOU what weapons you can own for defense

but you have no problem with the same US govt telling other people what weapons they cannot have for defense

got it

you're a hypocrite
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999843


not a "hypocrite", we're America.

America First!!


flag waver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


yeah you are a hypocrite

if you do not like the US govt telling YOU what weapons you can and cannot have

but you have no problem with the same US govt telling others what weapons they can and cannot have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77488684


Hmm interesting
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~

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Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die.

The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption.
 Quoting: KITt 76127092


uhhh that's not the official US narrative there charlie... the US prides itslef on protectign freedom and demcoracy for people all over the globe

why do you think the US wants to help the people of venezuela? they claim the venezuela's freedoms are being infringed upon.

why did we need to get rid of saddam? freedom for Iraq remember?

and on and on

the US claims it has military bases all over the globe to help protect GLOBAL freedom and democracy for ALL.

soooooooooo NOPE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426



Thats just what we tell you. It makes it easier to print green pieces of paper to trade for your shit.

We really dont fucking care about your peace and safety. All those American military bases are for protecting America and securing GLOBAL resources for our consumption.

And you think we are going to let Iran dictate to us. They are fucking dead.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


yeah no shit sherlock that is the point I have been making

not real quick on sarcasm and writing mechanisms are ya

the US military cna fuck people up... you, on the other hand... can't do shit... and I bet even that lezbo soccer player could twist you up til you were face down and ass up crying uncle!!!

mr.big bad US military gonna kill you man!!! sooooooooooo scary and tough online!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


No sarcasm this time. Its a reality that Iran is going to learn.

I never claimed to be tough and scary. The only thing I can do is support my Military and continue to pay my taxes. Love them!

They keep me fed, secure and happy.

I could care less about the rest of the planet.
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If the ghey derailer shows up report him for free green. thumbs

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So the EVIL MOTHER FUCKERS FORGOT AOUT THE $150 BILLION IN CASH THEY
RECEIVED FROM THE US ALREADY?
Deport every one of those filthy MOTHER FUCKERS who is in our country
RIGHT NOW!

No - IT WAS NEVER THEIRS TO BEGIN WITH,
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So the EVIL MOTHER FUCKERS FORGOT AOUT THE $150 BILLION IN CASH THEY
RECEIVED FROM THE US ALREADY?
Deport every one of those filthy MOTHER FUCKERS who is in our country
RIGHT NOW!

No - IT WAS NEVER THEIRS TO BEGIN WITH,
TO THE Propaganda IDIOTS.

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Good luck with the argument that religious laws that only apply to Muslims have to be obeyed by every other country in the world...


But you made a great point, Iranians feel they are above all the maritime laws and treaties they have signed in the past and that they don't have to abide by any of them...

I cannot wait until they attack the first civilian vessel and sink it for not paying their tolls...
 Quoting: Masiro®


POINT: There has to be a clear case that Iran violated LAW. If it comes down to it, the US cannot attack Iran because the holder of Islamic High Court (Saudi) will stand by Sharia LAW over ANY other law (that's their LAW). Non-secular (not "religious" law, this is their GOVERNMENTAL LAW).

SO... in order to go to WAR... the US has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran is in violation. And we cannot at this point.

THEREFORE: more of the same until someone (Iran) uses force against the ones not sharing jizya (protection tax) with them... because Iran is really broke (sanctions) and needs the money.

IF: Saudi shares jizya with Iran then Saudi violates sanctions imposed by US.

see where this is going?
 Quoting: MissCleo


why do you care what other countries do?

I thought you were an america first nationalist?

why do you gie a FUCK what any middle eastern country does?

oh right cuz muslims scare you
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Cause he's a human being.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


no, human beings do not support mass murder of innocent people so the wealthy elite can profit and prosper

human beings support ALL people and are not hateful towards others because of their religious beliefs

human beings do not feel morally superior over others because of what country they live in

pieces of shit do
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A bit too harsh?
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Don't try me. Let it go.

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Thanks.
How about Islamic law, and Sharia law?
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How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from.

We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption.

1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor.

2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1.

We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal.
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Then it's called a dictatorship?
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Not really. We could care less what you do in your personal and daily lives.

As long as the resources and trade continue to fill our coffers.

If your culture or government gets in the way of that mission. Well too bad for you.

What are you going to do with all that mineral wealth anyway? Its a waste on you. No other culture on the planet can put it to use other than America!
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POINT: There has to be a clear case that Iran violated LAW. If it comes down to it, the US cannot attack Iran because the holder of Islamic High Court (Saudi) will stand by Sharia LAW over ANY other law (that's their LAW). Non-secular (not "religious" law, this is their GOVERNMENTAL LAW).

SO... in order to go to WAR... the US has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran is in violation. And we cannot at this point.

THEREFORE: more of the same until someone (Iran) uses force against the ones not sharing jizya (protection tax) with them... because Iran is really broke (sanctions) and needs the money.

IF: Saudi shares jizya with Iran then Saudi violates sanctions imposed by US.

see where this is going?
 Quoting: MissCleo


why do you care what other countries do?

I thought you were an america first nationalist?

why do you gie a FUCK what any middle eastern country does?

oh right cuz muslims scare you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426


Cause he's a human being.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


no, human beings do not support mass murder of innocent people so the wealthy elite can profit and prosper

human beings support ALL people and are not hateful towards others because of their religious beliefs

human beings do not feel morally superior over others because of what country they live in

The Irony!

pieces of shit do
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The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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I think it is TIME to
REMOVE Kerry & obama.

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A bit too harsh?
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Don't try me. Let it go.
 Quoting: Chip


Is that a threat?
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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A bit too harsh?
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Don't try me. Let it go.
 Quoting: Chip


Is that a threat?
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


YES

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