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A mistake that humbles you is better than an achievement that makes you arrogant.

 
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"Earned" "redemption" "save"--sounds like a morality written by bankers.
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Not at all.

Its all written by the author of all our lives, God Almighty.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


If He is the author, then what is a mistake? Once again, the morality is engineered to make consequences flow in only one direction. Why so?
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


Everyone makes mistakes, its how we learn.

God sees all this and He will be the final judge of a persons morality.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Come back to me when the worker doesn't have to earn something that someone can get for free when they don't work.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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Didn't I catch you out before using two different accounts on this site. Yeah I remember the games you used to play.
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Never used two accounts, just changed my name a couple times.
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Not at all.

Its all written by the author of all our lives, God Almighty.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


If He is the author, then what is a mistake? Once again, the morality is engineered to make consequences flow in only one direction. Why so?
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


Everyone makes mistakes, its how we learn.

God sees all this and He will be the final judge of a persons morality.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Come back to me when the worker doesn't have to earn something that someone can get for free when they don't work.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


God isn't dumb, He knows who has worked and who has not.

Some will be rewarded more than others, the bible talks about it.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.
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If He is the author, then what is a mistake? Once again, the morality is engineered to make consequences flow in only one direction. Why so?
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


Everyone makes mistakes, its how we learn.

God sees all this and He will be the final judge of a persons morality.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Come back to me when the worker doesn't have to earn something that someone can get for free when they don't work.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


God isn't dumb, He knows who has worked and who has not.

Some will be rewarded more than others, the bible talks about it.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


And some will be rewarded on the merits of their ancestors. Look, this is all written ex post facto on the objections of the people who had candid reactions to being screwed by the people who screwed them. The education in righteousness is to demonize the victim and suppress the human impulse toward mercy. Dialogue is a rigged game here. You aren't going to budge, being legion, but I am the bad guy for refusing to bend ONCE AGAIN. If I had known the whole point of my life was to be the slave of people who were to be rewarded no matter what they did, I would have jumped off a bridge. I am a unit of value, lacking rights, lacking true freedom, and lacking in human worth because that worth is assigned and does not depend on effort or--despite your protests to the contrary--on intention. It's a scam, and my reaction to this is natural, rational, and right.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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Everyone makes mistakes, its how we learn.

God sees all this and He will be the final judge of a persons morality.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Come back to me when the worker doesn't have to earn something that someone can get for free when they don't work.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


God isn't dumb, He knows who has worked and who has not.

Some will be rewarded more than others, the bible talks about it.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


And some will be rewarded on the merits of their ancestors. Look, this is all written ex post facto on the objections of the people who had candid reactions to being screwed by the people who screwed them. The education in righteousness is to demonize the victim and suppress the human impulse toward mercy. Dialogue is a rigged game here. You aren't going to budge, being legion, but I am the bad guy for refusing to bend ONCE AGAIN. If I had known the whole point of my life was to be the slave of people who were to be rewarded no matter what they did, I would have jumped off a bridge. I am a unit of value, lacking rights, lacking true freedom, and lacking in human worth because that worth is assigned and does not depend on effort or--despite your protests to the contrary--on intention. It's a scam, and my reaction to this is natural, rational, and right.
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Thats a sad way to look at things.

Everyone has value and is loved, no matter what their station in life.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.
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"Falling Upward"--when we are humbled by our mistakes or sins, and become a wiser/better person for them.
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Absolutely.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.
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Come back to me when the worker doesn't have to earn something that someone can get for free when they don't work.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


God isn't dumb, He knows who has worked and who has not.

Some will be rewarded more than others, the bible talks about it.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


And some will be rewarded on the merits of their ancestors. Look, this is all written ex post facto on the objections of the people who had candid reactions to being screwed by the people who screwed them. The education in righteousness is to demonize the victim and suppress the human impulse toward mercy. Dialogue is a rigged game here. You aren't going to budge, being legion, but I am the bad guy for refusing to bend ONCE AGAIN. If I had known the whole point of my life was to be the slave of people who were to be rewarded no matter what they did, I would have jumped off a bridge. I am a unit of value, lacking rights, lacking true freedom, and lacking in human worth because that worth is assigned and does not depend on effort or--despite your protests to the contrary--on intention. It's a scam, and my reaction to this is natural, rational, and right.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


Thats a sad way to look at things.

Everyone has value and is loved, no matter what their station in life.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


The question is whether it is a legitimate one considering the circumstance under which it came to be. But that isn't one which the Morality (tm) allows to be considered.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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God isn't dumb, He knows who has worked and who has not.

Some will be rewarded more than others, the bible talks about it.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


And some will be rewarded on the merits of their ancestors. Look, this is all written ex post facto on the objections of the people who had candid reactions to being screwed by the people who screwed them. The education in righteousness is to demonize the victim and suppress the human impulse toward mercy. Dialogue is a rigged game here. You aren't going to budge, being legion, but I am the bad guy for refusing to bend ONCE AGAIN. If I had known the whole point of my life was to be the slave of people who were to be rewarded no matter what they did, I would have jumped off a bridge. I am a unit of value, lacking rights, lacking true freedom, and lacking in human worth because that worth is assigned and does not depend on effort or--despite your protests to the contrary--on intention. It's a scam, and my reaction to this is natural, rational, and right.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


Thats a sad way to look at things.

Everyone has value and is loved, no matter what their station in life.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


The question is whether it is a legitimate one considering the circumstance under which it came to be. But that isn't one which the Morality (tm) allows to be considered.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


I considered it, and I'm still thinking about it.

You made a good point.

Btw, I'm not 'legion'.

I'm just different.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.
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"Falling Upward"--when we are humbled by our mistakes or sins, and become a wiser/better person for them.
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And what is a culture that denigrates achievement and lionizes humiliation? A culture of slaves and slaving.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


A culture that lionizes Goodness and Wisdom is far different than one which denigrates achievement or lionizes being humiliated.

Your reading comprehension and reasoning ability need improvement.
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Re: A mistake that humbles you is better than an achievement that makes you arrogant.
"Falling Upward"--when we are humbled by our mistakes or sins, and become a wiser/better person for them.
 Quoting: MarPep


And what is a culture that denigrates achievement and lionizes humiliation? A culture of slaves and slaving.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


A culture that lionizes Goodness and Wisdom is far different than one which denigrates achievement or lionizes being humiliated.

Your reading comprehension and reasoning ability need improvement.
 Quoting: MarPep


Reading comprehension would require a consistent definition of Goodness and Wisdom, when in the culture we are speaking about, they are purely situational, as the morality is relative. Look, you have your 'higher men,' so they are already safe. You don't need to make fake heroes of common people using torture, and call it love. It's gratuitous. The commoners have served their purpose, and it's not like backstabbing isn't in your nature--is it?
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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"Falling Upward"--when we are humbled by our mistakes or sins, and become a wiser/better person for them.
 Quoting: MarPep


And what is a culture that denigrates achievement and lionizes humiliation? A culture of slaves and slaving.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


A culture that lionizes Goodness and Wisdom is far different than one which denigrates achievement or lionizes being humiliated.

Your reading comprehension and reasoning ability need improvement.
 Quoting: MarPep


Reading comprehension would require a consistent definition of Goodness and Wisdom, when in the culture we are speaking about, they are purely situational, as the morality is relative. Look, you have your 'higher men,' so they are already safe. You don't need to make fake heroes of common people using torture, and call it love. It's gratuitous. The commoners have served their purpose, and it's not like backstabbing isn't in your nature--is it?
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Wow, bro you have a really morbid outlook.

First you call me 'legion' and I let it pass now this...

Please show yourself out.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.
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And what is a culture that denigrates achievement and lionizes humiliation? A culture of slaves and slaving.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


A culture that lionizes Goodness and Wisdom is far different than one which denigrates achievement or lionizes being humiliated.

Your reading comprehension and reasoning ability need improvement.
 Quoting: MarPep


Reading comprehension would require a consistent definition of Goodness and Wisdom, when in the culture we are speaking about, they are purely situational, as the morality is relative. Look, you have your 'higher men,' so they are already safe. You don't need to make fake heroes of common people using torture, and call it love. It's gratuitous. The commoners have served their purpose, and it's not like backstabbing isn't in your nature--is it?
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


Wow, bro you have a really morbid outlook.

First you call me 'legion' and I let it pass now this...

Please show yourself out.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I called you 'legion' because you respond for one another's questions. There isn't an individual that one may speak with and have respond on their own. Right now you respond to my response to someone else. So I am not talking to one person, but two acting as one. Hence, 'legion.'
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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A culture that lionizes Goodness and Wisdom is far different than one which denigrates achievement or lionizes being humiliated.

Your reading comprehension and reasoning ability need improvement.
 Quoting: MarPep


Reading comprehension would require a consistent definition of Goodness and Wisdom, when in the culture we are speaking about, they are purely situational, as the morality is relative. Look, you have your 'higher men,' so they are already safe. You don't need to make fake heroes of common people using torture, and call it love. It's gratuitous. The commoners have served their purpose, and it's not like backstabbing isn't in your nature--is it?
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


Wow, bro you have a really morbid outlook.

First you call me 'legion' and I let it pass now this...

Please show yourself out.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I called you 'legion' because you respond for one another's questions. There isn't an individual that one may speak with and have respond on their own. Right now you respond to my response to someone else. So I am not talking to one person, but two acting as one. Hence, 'legion.'
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


You called him a backstabber in my thread for no reason.

That makes it my business.

Like I said, there is the door.

If not, ill just delete your posts, something I've never done before but I'll do it.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.
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I’m way too humble and way to short on arrogance. Maybe that’s why I’m poor.
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I’m way too humble and way to short on arrogance. Maybe that’s why I’m poor.
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Lol, welcome to the club my friend.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

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The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.
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Who all has made mistakes and learned humility and grace?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Humility and grace has helped me through many things in life.

It allows an opportunity for us to grow in spirit and it is a beautiful thing.

Thank you for sharing brother :)
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mama says you can't succeed unless you fail. so i fail all the time, mama is so proud.
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Who all has made mistakes and learned humility and grace?
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Humility and grace has helped me through many things in life.

It allows an opportunity for us to grow in spirit and it is a beautiful thing.

Thank you for sharing brother :)
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Thank you!

Just thought it was something others might like to hear!
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

The spiritual man judges all and is judged by none.