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I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
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I know right?


biggest pump and dump ever...



got silver?

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thats funny


take a look and see what manipulation looks like

talk about a pump and dump

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This time the economy is going to crash up, aka HyperInflation!!! Its only a matter of time, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the Dow hit 30k by years end.
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There are no signs of Hyperinflation in the market. Inflation rates are hovering around 2%. Even when the rates hit 16%+, during the Jimmy Carter years, was not considered Hyperinflation...

There is no reason to think that an economy growing at 2%-3% can not grow 5%-6%. This will not cause Hyperinflation. The USA saw 5%+ growth during the Reagan Presidency. That was not Hyperinflation. Look at China, they were growing over 6% for years and they were not in Hyperinflation...

The EU and other Countries are lowering their Fund Rates in order to compete with the USA. This is stimulating their markets and not causing hyperinflation...

Lowering the USA's Fed Fund Rate 0.25% will not cause Hyperinflation...
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Your inflation is 9.5% by your 1980 metrics and 5.5% by your 1990 metrics.
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Not according to this article...

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Don't use outdated metrics...
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Yep, we can keep the inflation at zero with all fancy and brand new metrics.
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Dow 27,000 ! President Trump = Prosperity banana2banana2
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They can't raise rates because it would render the US government insolvent.

They are monetizing the US debt directly and indirectly.
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Welcome to the end stage of the debt to infinity market paradigm.

Full implosion is a mathematical certainty.
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There is hope they will give away money again. it is not based on earnings, expectations, trade or consumer spending. It is just the thought that the largest banks in the world get FREE money to charge you 4% to 20% on...
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I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
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It makes a lot of cents. If your money is in the bank not making nothing .... invest in stock market or property.
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Dow 27,000 ! President Trump = Prosperity banana2banana2
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You ever hear about the roaring '20's? What was that followed by?
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I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
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It makes a lot of cents. If your money is in the bank not making nothing .... invest in stock market or property.
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Good point. Sort of like forced prosperity.
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The fact they cannot raise rates proves the Trump economy is pure grade a bullshit.

A strong economy can withstand rate hikes.
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Hey (((bankster))) we'll start with you then. Give all your shit to the (((govt))) and be a good citizen.
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What shit?

No banister here and I didn't vote for a Rothchild bankers boy.

I advocate getting rid of socialist insecurity and the fed then people would actually have RIGHTS, like the ability to actually own property like their labor!

I know what a wild concept.
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I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
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It makes a lot of cents. If your money is in the bank not making nothing .... invest in stock market or property.
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No us citizen owns any "property" as property cannot be taxed even in this day and age.
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I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77695402


This time the economy is going to crash up, aka HyperInflation!!! Its only a matter of time, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the Dow hit 30k by years end.
 Quoting: Atlas Will Shrug 73952609


There are no signs of Hyperinflation in the market. Inflation rates are hovering around 2%. Even when the rates hit 16%+, during the Jimmy Carter years, was not considered Hyperinflation...

There is no reason to think that an economy growing at 2%-3% can not grow 5%-6%. This will not cause Hyperinflation. The USA saw 5%+ growth during the Reagan Presidency. That was not Hyperinflation. Look at China, they were growing over 6% for years and they were not in Hyperinflation...

The EU and other Countries are lowering their Fund Rates in order to compete with the USA. This is stimulating their markets and not causing hyperinflation...

Lowering the USA's Fed Fund Rate 0.25% will not cause Hyperinflation...
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Your inflation is 9.5% by your 1980 metrics and 5.5% by your 1990 metrics.
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Thread: Breaking News!!! Fed Chairman: The relationship between inflation and unemployment is gone!!!
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totally rigged.
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I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77695402


It makes a lot of cents. If your money is in the bank not making nothing .... invest in stock market or property.
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No us citizen owns any "property" as property cannot be taxed even in this day and age.
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For the few that don't know. [link to georgegordon.org]
Subject of property series is worth a listen.
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Next Stop Dow 28,000 ! 401ks are soaring higher! banana2banana2
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Next Stop Dow 28,000 ! 401ks are soaring higher! banana2banana2
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30,000 as they are going to take it to negative 1% like in other countries
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id does if you expect it to drop 50% once the Fed is eliminated and the US declares bankruptcy
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The fact they cannot raise rates proves the Trump economy is pure grade a bullshit.

A strong economy can withstand rate hikes.
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Hey (((bankster))) we'll start with you then. Give all your shit to the (((govt))) and be a good citizen.
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What shit?

No banister here and I didn't vote for a Rothchild bankers boy.

I advocate getting rid of socialist insecurity and the fed then people would actually have RIGHTS, like the ability to actually own property like their labor!

I know what a wild concept.
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Well, my reaction was to your implication that a centralized bank controlling lending rates was anything but a system of slavery, in which any economy could not ever possibly be "strong" without the massive arsenal of the controlling class constantly threatening the plebes with violence for nonconformity.

The concept of allodial title to real property was only available to kings/ceasars/czars/etc.

We still live in a property/title system based on feudalism, even if you did get rid of the Reptiles.

It's the system that allows the monsters to take hold.

The Wild West was the only closest thing to an alternative.

Then we created cities and allowed libfucktards to breed.

What is the solution??
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whrn it will hit the highest then it will crash, crash so badly that people will jump from roofs.
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I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77695402


It makes a lot of cents. If your money is in the bank not making nothing .... invest in stock market or property.
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Good point. Sort of like forced prosperity.
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Dow 27,000 ! President Trump = Prosperity banana2banana2
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But it's not real wealth.

If this economy was so great, consumer credit card debt would not be at an all time record high.

Idiots.
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The DOW will nearly double from here. The US and the Dollar are still the only game in town in the short-term. Money will flow heavily into US equities when the crisis starts. The turmoil never begins in the core economy, the crisis will manifest on the periphery and works it's way to the center. Then the US markets will tumble from 45k to 20k... Timeframe 2-4yrs.
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Market surges because corporations and oligarchs love this lawless administration. The market fleeces the average citizen though because these companies are only accountable to shareholders. Not society. Not the environment. Not the law.
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The market was at record highs just prior to the depression in the 30s
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what doesn't make sense is 30 year t-bonds yield of 2.5%

when the deficit for may was reported at 208 billion in one month

that's an annual rate of 2.5 trillion
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It’s almost like the media is lying all the time and shills pass the message on the internet. Weird.
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The fact they cannot raise rates proves the Trump economy is pure grade a bullshit.

A strong economy can withstand rate hikes.
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No it cant...there is to much government debt.
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There are no signs of Hyperinflation in the market. Inflation rates are hovering around 2%. Even when the rates hit 16%+, during the Jimmy Carter years, was not considered Hyperinflation...

There is no reason to think that an economy growing at 2%-3% can not grow 5%-6%. This will not cause Hyperinflation. The USA saw 5%+ growth during the Reagan Presidency. That was not Hyperinflation. Look at China, they were growing over 6% for years and they were not in Hyperinflation...

The EU and other Countries are lowering their Fund Rates in order to compete with the USA. This is stimulating their markets and not causing hyperinflation...

Lowering the USA's Fed Fund Rate 0.25% will not cause Hyperinflation...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


Your inflation is 9.5% by your 1980 metrics and 5.5% by your 1990 metrics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77371006


hesright

Did you know that the CPI has been adjusted twice since the 1980's? Why this is important is that they have fundamentally changed how they measure inflation officially in order to better disguise it. The main point is that 80% of what is measured by the CPI is considered to be inelastic, this is a big problem since inelastic demand is never a good measurement of how prices fluctuate.

So how can the average person discover true inflation?? Look at how Real Estate has skyrocketed despite the fact that the overall condition of the housing has either stagnated or degraded. Inflation can also be found in the Higher Education ponzi scheme. Compare the rapid rises in these industries with the relatively modest wage growth (which is also screwed by the fact that the top earners continue to earn more).

It's time for you to wake up, or not. The choice has always been yours to make.

Oh and if you don't believe me, I honestly don't care. Anybody who can critically think can research all of this for themselves and they should. The only way to defeat ignorance is to acquire and apply knowledge.
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It's all fucking fake. 95% of the purchasing power of the dollar has been lost since the creation of the (((Federal Reserve))).

CPI is "adjusted", inflation is "adjusted", Dow is "adjusted" = FAKE FUCKING FAKE.

Why is there even a tax system when dollars are literally created out of thin air? Just to take some of the worthless dollars away from the proles to maintain the illusion that we are actually funding the (((GOVT)))???
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Meanwhile, I'll continue to invest in fake money and then buy real things. you know, like property and build houses.

It's only fake to those who have no stake in it. They long for everyone to suffer like they themselves have and likely still do.

Pretty fucking sad really.
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Interest rates go down, people shift away from banks and bonds and invest in stocks.

Good companies will pay good dividend returns.
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The REALITY is that the economy is NOT as good as it is being made to appear. The insiders know this and a rate reduction will actually be a start in trying to get the REAL economy going again.
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