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Stock markets breaking record highs, on hope that FED lowers rate.JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

 
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Your inflation is 9.5% by your 1980 metrics and 5.5% by your 1990 metrics.
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hesright

Did you know that the CPI has been adjusted twice since the 1980's? Why this is important is that they have fundamentally changed how they measure inflation officially in order to better disguise it. The main point is that 80% of what is measured by the CPI is considered to be inelastic, this is a big problem since inelastic demand is never a good measurement of how prices fluctuate.

So how can the average person discover true inflation?? Look at how Real Estate has skyrocketed despite the fact that the overall condition of the housing has either stagnated or degraded. Inflation can also be found in the Higher Education ponzi scheme. Compare the rapid rises in these industries with the relatively modest wage growth (which is also screwed by the fact that the top earners continue to earn more).

It's time for you to wake up, or not. The choice has always been yours to make.

Oh and if you don't believe me, I honestly don't care. Anybody who can critically think can research all of this for themselves and they should. The only way to defeat ignorance is to acquire and apply knowledge.
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It's all fucking fake. 95% of the purchasing power of the dollar has been lost since the creation of the (((Federal Reserve))).

CPI is "adjusted", inflation is "adjusted", Dow is "adjusted" = FAKE FUCKING FAKE.

Why is there even a tax system when dollars are literally created out of thin air? Just to take some of the worthless dollars away from the proles to maintain the illusion that we are actually funding the (((GOVT)))???
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Meanwhile, I'll continue to invest in fake money and then buy real things. you know, like property and build houses.

It's only fake to those who have no stake in it. They long for everyone to suffer like they themselves have and likely still do.

Pretty fucking sad really.
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and after you build the house that cost 100% more to build and your taxes go through the roof food prices go crazy no buyers for your over prices homes,but looks great pal.enjoy those taxes lol.If you were smart you would be building a food bunker.
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Re: Stock markets breaking record highs, on hope that FED lowers rate.JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!
I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
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Dipshits. Just because the stock market is good and billionaires are making money doesn't mean the economy is good for the other 99% of Americans.

Of course the stock market is breaking records making billionaires richer. It was the plan of Trump and his buddies all along to artificially stimulate the stock market so billionaires could inside trade and make themselves even richer and then when the steroids wear off they will pull out and leave the working man with the incredible debt thus completely destroying the middle class.

In the REAL ECONOMY that 99% of us are subject to... inflation is out of control, rent prices are skyrocketing, fresh produce and meat is going our of control, farmers are struggling so bad that half of them didn't even plant crops this year, anything imported is about to be taxed into oblivion, anything exported is being boycotted, price of metals are sharply increasing and the tRump/Putin administration is catering to Russian foreign powers to allow them to set up their shops all over America and corner certain markets.

The truth is the average American is feeling like we are already in a recession and headed straight for a big time depression worse then the 1920's

And just as the economy begins to show signs of collapsing from all the weight of tRumps's personal interests and reckless policies designed to fuck over the average American, the coward will be leaving office then blaming the collapse on Democrats and his uneducated brainwashed followers will mindlessly repeat his fake news propaganda instead of owning the truth that it was their ignorance of economics and support of bigotry, racism and hate that brought this about.

Russia will then basically own the U.S. and tRump supporters who claim to be "All America" will be bowing down to Putin as they have already started to do.

Bzarre comment.

I agree strongly with your argument that real inflation is totally out of control. Your specific example are good.

But i cant see how you blaem 30 years +++ of economic trickery on trump and the 'russians'. Are you insane? I dont like trump and think you are destroying your own argument.

Regulatory capture and internationalist financiers are to blame. The uniparty is wholly directed by financial and military interests.

THe system is broke and you point to a guy in office for less than 2 years?

I miss the good old days when people believed what they heard and seen with their own eyes and ears instead of dismissing reality for the obvious fabricated narratives and flat out lies of a billionaire conman who inherited his fortune from daddy, lost it multiple times, got bailed out by TPTB multiple times, and who M.O. is to fuck over the little guy to get richer and then falsely claim he is fighting the establishment when he clearly IS the establishment to anyone with a half a brain.

tRump supporters will go down in history as the most UN-AMERICAN people to ever live in this great country.
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Re: Stock markets breaking record highs, on hope that FED lowers rate.JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!
I recall back in the 70 approx. when the market was booming the FED raised rates to keep things from overheating. Now the prospect of raising rates will kill the markets. Plus that yield curve inversion thingy where rates favor short term and discourage long term is a big RED FLAG!
Keeping all investors in check before they pull the rug out from under you.
Markets will crash when we go to war. There is no doubt that we will, it had been planned a long time ago!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77695402


Dipshits. Just because the stock market is good and billionaires are making money doesn't mean the economy is good for the other 99% of Americans.

Of course the stock market is breaking records making billionaires richer. It was the plan of Trump and his buddies all along to artificially stimulate the stock market so billionaires could inside trade and make themselves even richer and then when the steroids wear off they will pull out and leave the working man with the incredible debt thus completely destroying the middle class.

In the REAL ECONOMY that 99% of us are subject to... inflation is out of control, rent prices are skyrocketing, fresh produce and meat is going our of control, farmers are struggling so bad that half of them didn't even plant crops this year, anything imported is about to be taxed into oblivion, anything exported is being boycotted, price of metals are sharply increasing and the tRump/Putin administration is catering to Russian foreign powers to allow them to set up their shops all over America and corner certain markets.

The truth is the average American is feeling like we are already in a recession and headed straight for a big time depression worse then the 1920's

And just as the economy begins to show signs of collapsing from all the weight of tRumps's personal interests and reckless policies designed to fuck over the average American, the coward will be leaving office then blaming the collapse on Democrats and his uneducated brainwashed followers will mindlessly repeat his fake news propaganda instead of owning the truth that it was their ignorance of economics and support of bigotry, racism and hate that brought this about.

Russia will then basically own the U.S. and tRump supporters who claim to be "All America" will be bowing down to Putin as they have already started to do.


I miss the good old days when people believed what they heard and seen with their own eyes and ears instead of dismissing reality for the obvious fabricated narratives and flat out lies of a billionaire conman who inherited his fortune from daddy, lost it multiple times, got bailed out by TPTB multiple times, and who M.O. is to fuck over the little guy to get richer and then falsely claim he is fighting the establishment when he clearly IS the establishment to anyone with a half a brain.

tRump supporters will go down in history as the most UN-AMERICAN people to ever live in this great country.
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Bzarre comment.

I agree strongly with your argument that real inflation is totally out of control. Your specific example are good.

But i cant see how you blaem 30 years +++ of economic trickery on trump and the 'russians'. Are you insane? I dont like trump and think you are destroying your own argument.

Regulatory capture and internationalist financiers are to blame. The uniparty is wholly directed by financial and military interests.

THe system is broke and you point to a guy in office for less than 2 years?
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Re: Stock markets breaking record highs, on hope that FED lowers rate.JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!
OP, you didn't have the level of debt in the 1970s that we have now. You didn't have the derivative products in the 70s that we have now. Trump is a real estate guy. They want to keep rates low to keep loan repayments on track. Pretty simple to see that raising rates will kill both residential and commercial real estate and the rest would crumble from there. Rates will go lower and likely go negative.
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Lockheed Martin is at an all time high; we're very likely going to be at war before next year, maybe early as before Labor Day. Today Twenty Year Bonds are 139; the market was poised to fall when the price climbed past 125. Random Length Lumber is approaching 336, 17% down from it's most recent high, another bearish indicator. It's likely the S&P will have a 20% correction in August.

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Gregory Mannarino will explain ircall to you on youtube. The Robin Hood of Wall Street will not lead you astray!
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meanwhile crypto is getting rekt.
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Yeah, Bitcoin is only up 300% in the last 4 months....total devastation!

/sarc

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