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Mark is definitely gay. He plays the female role. He is worried about his looks to an obsessive degree. He thinks medicine is advanced, because he works in that profession.
I have never encountered even a marginally competent doctor.
I am sickened by most everything in this post. I would like to implement socialized medicine immediately to remove people like Mark from profiting from illness.
I admire Cuba immensely in healthcare. Medical training should be free and so should medical care. Anything else is loathsome. Healthcare in the U.S. is a farce put on by big Pharma. Diseases are not cured because that is not profitable.
Mark can criticize everything that does not expose his predatory capitalist existence.
Life is just so unbearable in the U.S. because of all these fucking predators. Doctors are the worst. They are worse than lawyers, because their patients are all so vulnerable. It is so horrifying.
As far as the Internet, the very best thing going is GLP. How sick and sad is that? Those of us who want to uncover the truth are constantly undermined by government shills and megaphoneys. The people who used to post amazing revelations here no longer do so because of the retarded opposition.
We never went to the f-ing moon. A real nation would go to the moon to establish a base from which to launch expeditions to Mars and beyond. A fake nation like the U.S. pretended to go to the moon to stick its tongue out at the U.S.S.R.
The U.S. is currently a dictatorship. Everyone hates this psychopathic asshole, Bush, but they can't depose him.
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Well am I making haste or could it be haste is making me
What's time but a thing to kill or keep or buy or lose or live in
I gotta go faster
Keep up the pace
Just to stay in the human race

I could go supersonic
the problem's chronic
Tell me does life exist beyond it
When I need to sate
I just accelerate
Into oblivion
-Bad Religion (band)

Here guys, OP.. time to branch out to somewhere, someplace where your mind allows for doors of perception.

Aldous Huxley.. I know this is pretty off topic and kind of random but it is all about expanding the conscientiousness.



Maybe we could start experiencing transcendental meditation. Where is this post going, idk, just trying to help i guess.
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We are still only eating the fruit of the tree so to speak, all this time. By the same perspective you cannot buy with money or technology the fountain of youth, what is called regenerative ability. Reflections? Uh huh. Excellent organization and thoughtfully written OP, something we don't see too frequently from ourselves.
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I agree without petrol we can't have the world as it is.

Nothing can run it in the same way.

There is discernible change afoot, we are in for the ride,

maybe we will become sustainable with a reduced population.




What are you, the robotic offspring of a NWO stooge?
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Perhaps.

It wouldn't be the first time I've been had.
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Its all about control....
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I personally believe that in the future, the last 60 years or so will be regarded as a "technological dark age". Now, I know that sounds ridiculous, especially as I sit here typing this on a computer looking out of the window at my super efficient car parked out on the road, but the real technologies - the show stoppers - appear to have been repressed and pushed aside. They appear to be in the control of the few for what can only been seen as ignorant short term personal profit, or power lusting ("he who controls the technology, controls the world").

I find it unbelievable that we have yet to tap into the vacuum, or that we are still unable to perform routine and affordable space flight, for example. I just don't buy it. On the contrary, history shows that if we really want to do something, we can, and NOTHING will stop us. Where there is motivation and money anything is possible, and there is plenty of both of those things in our country's respective militaries.

These people need to ask themselves if the perceived standing of their country in in the "hierarchy" of the world is more important than just... letting go, letting the information flow, and letting us truly be free. Only then, will we step out from this, ironically, very dark informational and technological time.
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I personally believe that in the future, the last 60 years or so will be regarded as a "technological dark age". Now, I know that sounds ridiculous, especially as I sit here typing this on a computer looking out of the window at my super efficient car parked out on the road, but the real technologies - the show stoppers - appear to have been repressed and pushed aside. They appear to be in the control of the few for what can only been seen as ignorant short term personal profit, or power lusting ("he who controls the technology, controls the world").

I find it unbelievable that we have yet to tap into the vacuum, or that we are still unable to perform routine and affordable space flight, for example. I just don't buy it. On the contrary, history shows that if we really want to do something, we can, and NOTHING will stop us. Where there is motivation and money anything is possible, and there is plenty of both of those things in our country's respective militaries.

These people need to ask themselves if the perceived standing of their country in in the "hierarchy" of the world is more important than just... letting go, letting the information flow, and letting us truly be free. Only then, will we step out from this, ironically, very dark informational and technological time.
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Well chosen words to describe how I feel too! It's ridiculous and it bothers me extremely how the politicians and legislators control by means of not permitting new technologies to get R&D funds, so that it becomes mainstream. They only permit something when the fascist corporate officers/shareholders ask for it. It seems to me the people have very little to say when it comes to new technology, and everything else as well. It saddens me truly.. that we as a people cannot agree on at least that, and stand up as one to fight megalomaniacs who are bent on literally taking over the world.. whether it be directly through military/policing actions, or through economics.

The FDA for example regulates new medicine.. in a very incorrect and corrupt way, because there are medications for depression for example that can be extremely beneficial to people suffering from debilitating depression, yet having tried nearly all the drugs currently available - none of them working. Drug resistant depression patients need new, experimental drugs. Also ones which are TRULY researched for use to treat depression. The pharmaceutical companies are to blame for that one.
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Tesla was for real. You degree in physics and electronics does not mean a BS.


Just have a look at wireless energy transfer by MIT.


EXPERIMENT!
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hi

What make you folks think that we don't have Moon Bases and even Mar's Bases? This vertical rocket powered Shuttle and the obsolete ISS is a joke on the American and Russian taxpayers.

I fail to understand why anyone would want to stay in this prison kindergarten (which is what this 3D world is) beyond their years of usefulness. To extend life in a body or brain eaten by disease just so that you can live a few more days or a few more years is ridiculous. When I can no longer be of service, I'm out of here, like gone.

To leave this body is to graduate, to be liberated, to become free to explore the universe, to go and do things that are not possible when imprisoned in a body which has 5/6 of its DNA turned off.

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Missed it
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"I am not afraid to stand alone, but it's always more fun if I have friends standing with me." Lena Coleon.
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Try again for a post on 7/7/7 7:7


Edit: Got it. My clock here in Hawaii said 1:10 AM
"I am not afraid to stand alone, but it's always more fun if I have friends standing with me." Lena Coleon.
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Try again for a post on 7/7/7 7:7


Edit: Got it. My clock here in Hawaii said 1:10 AM
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Woah... sweet.
The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/
The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/
The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/
Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/
Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/
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Mark,

I think the answer to the question you pose has to do with money and making everyone happy. I don't think we have as many 'pure research' facilities as we used to have - Pure R&D doesn't exist the way it did, say, in the 60's. We now answer to shareholders and accountants...this trickles down the line...Why spend billions on better tires when the ones we have are cheap and profitable?

Here's a great article about this very thing, in the context of Information Technology:

[link to arstechnica.com]

Here's a snippet of this article:

The Cold War, with its "Pentagon socialism", combined with large corporate monopolies that were expected to provide lifetime employment and pensions, made for something of a golden age for American technological innovation. This is the era that brought us the transistor and the predecessor to the Internet, an era where all the seeds of today's "information economy" were sown and carefully cultivated at great private and public expense.

The great labs of this era—Bell Labs, Xerox PARC, and IBM's labs—were places with massive budgets, where the world's top scientists were invited to pursue "blue sky" research into areas with no immediately apparent commercial applications. The facilities were state-of-the-art, and there was no pressure from management or shareholders to do anything but science for science's sake. To be able to fund such a lab was a mark of corporate prestige, and the labs themselves, along with their public counterparts like NASA, were major sources of national pride. For a company like Xerox or AT&T, what it meant to have a blue sky research lab was very much like what it means for a city to host a winning sports team; it was a source of pride and an anchor of collective identity. So much like the science that they produced, these labs were ends in themselves.

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1894 The “Horseless Carriage” is invented. The auto industry is begun.
1903 Wilber & Orville fly a few feet.
1945 Jet fighters are a decisive factor in WWII
1946 The first atom bombs are dropped and end the war in the Pacific
1954 The first Private Jets cross the Atlantic with paying passengers.

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Finally, why in hell do I feel compelled to build this absurdly over-engineered house, at this point in time? There is, for me, a feeling that I really want to get this thing completed and soon. It is almost an instinctive drive nearly a compulsion somewhere in me and I do not know where it’s coming from. Maybe it is just the world’s situation at present and the feeling of unrest that seems to abound today.

Your thoughts, comments, questions if any, are welcomed . Thanks for listening/reading.

----end quote--------

1894 ( who could of thought back then that the World would be ruined by blacktop and cement roads making the distance between the Cities very short, and pollution and more.)

I think this was not an advancement, but a nail in the coffin for a clean and once large World, plus it is far from the way of the garden of Eden ( God planted a GARDEN eastward in Eden )

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1903 Aircraft today now being used to kill in mass, and we have to be tagged, x-rayed and strip searched to even partake, if you can even afford to fly. When the black choppers come over you're town to put you in camps of death, remember this.
1945 Proof of the above statement
1946 The first atom bombs are dropped and end the war ( WAR - DEATH )

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1954 The first Private Jets cross the Atlantic with paying passengers. And guess who these elite class of the, wealthy passengers were, and as they flew over those that they ripped off to have plenty of gold, and mammon for themselves.

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You may call all of this advancements, but I am old and remember the old days, as a cleaner, more peaceful time, when the Family had a Mom at home, and baked bread, that you could smell in the wind. Dad worked one Job, and had enough earnings to even afford extras.

Enough is enough !

Give me that slower peaceful World, over these so called advancements any day !!!
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Mark is definitely gay. He plays the female role. He is worried about his looks to an obsessive degree. He thinks medicine is advanced, because he works in that profession.
I have never encountered even a marginally competent doctor.
I am sickened by most everything in this post. I would like to implement socialized medicine immediately to remove people like Mark from profiting from illness.
I admire Cuba immensely in healthcare. Medical training should be free and so should medical care. Anything else is loathsome. Healthcare in the U.S. is a farce put on by big Pharma. Diseases are not cured because that is not profitable.
Mark can criticize everything that does not expose his predatory capitalist existence.
Life is just so unbearable in the U.S. because of all these fucking predators. Doctors are the worst. They are worse than lawyers, because their patients are all so vulnerable. It is so horrifying.

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I just saw the movie "Sicko" yesterday. What you're saying is correct. It is criminal what passes as healthcare in the U.S.

BTW, anyone notice that Mark, after 45 posts, never came back to his own thread to answer any questions?

He must be a doctor, LOL...
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H2O ..... I'm one of those pre-depression babies who lived through it also.
Dirt roads were dusty, but Dad bought 5 GALLONS of gas for a DOLLAR. Mom WAS home baking and we DIDN'T lock our doors at night. My uncles brought us reject boxes of ammo from Remington Arms when they came for an overnight/early morning hunting expedition ( hunting WAS for food, NOT sport, as we ATE what we killed ). Generally was printing on the box that made them rejects and it wasn't worth it to repackage.
Everyone with even an acre of land had a garden, and 4-H clubs were in vogue. People shared there skills and helped one another. NOT the rich ! This IS coming again and I mean this year. Only this time, we DON'T have the gardens, there are few forests to hunt in, the doors ARE locked, few even KNOW their neighbors, the country is BROKE and OWNED by foreign banksters, the FIAT money IS worthless and they have even stolen the copper from our pennies. Politicians overlook NOTHING of value, except their souls !

Mark, as others have said, I find your basic post full of nothing but references to things MONEY can/does buy and it occurs to me you entire outlook is warped in a monetary way. Of COURSE you are one of Gods chosen, being a doctor, so WHO AM I to even suggest your thinking is warped ?
Just one who has lived a modest life for almost eighty years, and was PROUD to say I was the son of ...., a carpenter, in my small town of 3000, pre 1940. My uncle was the fire chief and a man was measured by the truth of his words, and the way he lived his life helping family and others. Sadly, we will not see this again until the scum is cleared from our political system by losing the next war, and becoming an occupied, UN controled, 3rd world nation. I'm as ready as I can be. ARE YOU ?

Eagle
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Educational BUMP !
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OP is posing, he made all of the personal stuff up.

First, a doctor would know when to use "its" rather than "it's" and "lose" rather than "loose."

Second, he says he can barely afford to put his kid through school, yet he is building a fantastic mansion in the expensive NYC area.

Third, he says he will not have much to leave to his grandkids when he dies, but that big house and the land it's on will be a substantial inheritance for his devisees.

I think this whole thing is a just a nice story that the OP made up. It's well done, and it presents interesting points about progress. But there are too many inconsistencies for it to be non-fiction.
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Hi Mark!

Well, written and thought out.

The gaps in technological growth you pointed out seem obvious to me. There are no real gaps. The high technology is all there, but it was taken underground by governments who want to get the edge over other countries - mostly to use the knowledge to advance military weapons and craft.

The rest of us civilians have been stuck with the same old arrested technology. Once in a while they throw us a bone - the internet etc... But they won't let us know all the really cool stuff they have. It's all hush, hush.

Stupid mentality of control freaks who want to be king of the world. The rest of us are bored stiff, ready for more...

Good news is, the 'more' is coming to us, secret governments be damned. All will be exposed soon.
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VERY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY EXSIST RIGHT HERE on THIS PLANET.The PROBLEM is are EARTHLINGS READY for the CHANGES/TECH?
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H2O ..... I'm one of those pre-depression babies who lived through it also.
Dirt roads were dusty, but Dad bought 5 GALLONS of gas for a DOLLAR. Mom WAS home baking and we DIDN'T lock our doors at night. My uncles brought us reject boxes of ammo from Remington Arms when they came for an overnight/early morning hunting expedition ( hunting WAS for food, NOT sport, as we ATE what we killed ). Generally was printing on the box that made them rejects and it wasn't worth it to repackage.
Everyone with even an acre of land had a garden, and 4-H clubs were in vogue. People shared there skills and helped one another. NOT the rich ! This IS coming again and I mean this year. Only this time, we DON'T have the gardens, there are few forests to hunt in, the doors ARE locked, few even KNOW their neighbors, the country is BROKE and OWNED by foreign banksters, the FIAT money IS worthless and they have even stolen the copper from our pennies. Politicians overlook NOTHING of value, except their souls !

Mark, as others have said, I find your basic post full of nothing but references to things MONEY can/does buy and it occurs to me you entire outlook is warped in a monetary way. Of COURSE you are one of Gods chosen, being a doctor, so WHO AM I to even suggest your thinking is warped ?
Just one who has lived a modest life for almost eighty years, and was PROUD to say I was the son of ...., a carpenter, in my small town of 3000, pre 1940. My uncle was the fire chief and a man was measured by the truth of his words, and the way he lived his life helping family and others. Sadly, we will not see this again until the scum is cleared from our political system by losing the next war, and becoming an occupied, UN controled, 3rd world nation. I'm as ready as I can be. ARE YOU ?

Eagle
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hf hf hf hf


I was born a couple of years after wwII, and although I'm a tad bit younger than you, I remember when a man was measured by his word, not by his bank account.

In school we received a grade for scholastics AND a grade in 'citizenship'. I managed to actually learn the difference between right and wrong.

I was taught to be self-sufficient; the idea of going on welfare of any sort, including medical charity, was embarrassing.

My dad always had the backyard turned into a fabulous vegetable garden.

Although we had very, *very*, little money, we had standards of behavior that helped us keep our self-respect.

The important things in life were very clear. And money was not our God.
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I agree without petrol we can't have the world as it is.

Nothing can run it in the same way.
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Ever hear of Hemp?? Used to do a helluva job on for a lot of things until the frickin' PTB made up a fairy tale that it should be illegal.
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Are these thoughts supposed to be profound or insightful?
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I think it's a question of will that the technologies we have aren't being properly utilised. That will has to come from central government in modern society. Clearly it isn't, and the decisions they are making are being melded by a few rich, powerful, and corrupt individuals.

The cost of the Gulf War for example could have made the USA energy independent and green, even possibly an energy exporter and technological front runner. Instead the US is bogged down in Iraq in what seems to be a move to secure the oil-based energy needs of the US and doubtless continued profits for Big Oil.

Until the government is purged of this self serving corruption, and the infantile decisions they make, based on control and power, halted, we can expect to be living in a mad house.
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CORRUPTION


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Thanks, 234974 ..... The 50s and 60s still had a flavor of the 30s, but of course there were plenty of jobs, and men returning from war that knew suffering/death.

AND, you 'hit the nail on the head' with "...and money was NOT our God."

IF we ever get our country back, we can NOT fail to teach our grandchildren the value of human life and compassion for our neighbors. He shows mercy to the merciful.

Eagle
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<<
1945 Jet fighters are a decisive factor in WWII
1946 The first atom bombs are dropped and end the war in the Pacific
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Minor corrections:

Jet fighters were not a factor in WWII. If they were then the Germans might have won.

WWII ended in 1945, after the atomic bombs were dropped.
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Yeah, Eagle, things have changed a bit. I think one of the worst things to happen in the last century was when women en masse left their homes to get a career. That's okay on an individual basis for those who truly have a calling of some kind, but not when the entire mommy population walks away from their homes so they can get a paycheck. In the sixties we definitely had a sea change with women's 'lib'.

The net result has been that the kids grew up with Madison Avenue talking to them through the TV screen, instead of having the careful attention of a Mom and Dad to guide their growth. They have been taught that it is 'essential' to have 'stuff', and more and more 'stuff'.

People started throwing money at their problems, and trying to buy off their guilty conscience with toys and 'stuff' for their kids, instead of their time, energy and attention. After all, with both Mom and Dad gone at work all day, the hours after work and school became filled with catch-up housework and errands...who has time to sit with Tammy and play Tiddlewinks? Or make sure Jean is doing her homework? Or show little Freddie how to use a saw and hammer?

The schools and the TV became the new parents, and we see the results today. Very sad. My generation got a good education in public school, because we wouldn't DARE misbehave, or skip our homework. There was a work ethic, and excellence was the expected norm. We strove to succeed, and our parents paid attention to our progress. These days the poor teachers have so many dysfunctional students in their classrooms, they can't even teach. It's more like, "Just get me through the day, and I'll pass them all at the end of the year." We are the victims of deliberately lowered educational standards, and a common diet of chips and soda.

The thing that keeps me from getting too depressed to move, is the thought that somehow, some way, we are descended from people who survived, in an unbroken line, alllll the way back to 'wherever' it all began. So, life will go on, no matter what the outer circumstances. Survival is programmed into our DNA...but it's sad to watch Rome burning.
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jet fighters were not a decisive factor in world war two. they came too late and there were too few. they couldn't save germany.





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