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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77215693 United States 07/11/2019 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Mirror test A baboon looking in a mirror The mirror test – sometimes called the mark test, mirror self-recognition test (MSR), red spot technique, or rouge test – is a behavioural technique developed in 1970 by psychologist Gordon Gallup Jr. as an attempt to determine whether an animal possesses the ability of visual self-recognition.[1] The MSR test is the traditional method for attempting to measure self-awareness. However, there has been agreement that animals can be self-aware in ways not measured by the mirror test, such as distinguishing between their own and others' songs and scents.[2] On the other hand, animals that can pass the MSR do not necessarily have self-awareness.[3] In the classic MSR test, an animal is anaesthetised and then marked (e.g., painted, or a sticker attached) on an area of the body the animal cannot normally see. When the animal recovers from the anesthetic, it is given access to a mirror. If the animal then touches or investigates the mark, it is taken as an indication that the animal perceives the reflected image as itself, rather than of another animal. ANTS passed the mirror test meaning they recognized themselves. [link to www.animalcognition.org] Ants In 2015, scientists published research11 that suggests some ants can recognize themselves when looking in a mirror. When viewing other ants through glass, ants didn’t divert from their normal behaviors. However, their behavior did change when they were put in front of a mirror. The ants would move slowly, turn their heads back and forth, shake their antennae, and touch the mirror. They’d retreat and re-approach the mirror. Sometimes they would groom themselves. ANTS are SELF AWARE |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77215693 United States 07/11/2019 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | at one time BUGS were the dominant species on earth they evolved and are now space fairing too (mantis) the rest that remained here are MUCH smarter than we know and have learned to live with the earth in perfect balance and harmony imagine a REAL "BUGS LIFE" |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77215693 United States 07/11/2019 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TRUE STORY on one of my ABDUCTIONS (yes you heard me right)((details added upon request)) 2greys took me into a room and there was a giant MANTIS no joke they told me he wanted to meet me personally. As I approached...the MANTIS began to twitch excitedly ... I got a little nervous. The greys reassured me and told me he just wanted to touch me So....(NO joke)...as I walked up to him....he stuck out one claw just thrust it out like he wanted to shake hands so I touched it with my open palm. Next thing I know....my brain is flooded with imagery of these mantis bugs crawling all over each other in tunnels on another planet. He told me that's how they communicate by TOUCH. 100% serious |
AkashicRecord® User ID: 74114205 United States 07/11/2019 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TRUE STORY Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77215693 on one of my ABDUCTIONS (yes you heard me right)((details added upon request)) 2greys took me into a room and there was a giant MANTIS no joke they told me he wanted to meet me personally. As I approached...the MANTIS began to twitch excitedly ... I got a little nervous. The greys reassured me and told me he just wanted to touch me So....(NO joke)...as I walked up to him....he stuck out one claw just thrust it out like he wanted to shake hands so I touched it with my open palm. Next thing I know....my brain is flooded with imagery of these mantis bugs crawling all over each other in tunnels on another planet. He told me that's how they communicate by TOUCH. 100% serious Well, they can't hear anything except ultrasonics with their one ear... Basically so they could hear bat echolocation signals and hide. I raised (~150) mantis nymphs hatched from a pregnant female years ago. Coolest pet ever. They were like little excited puppy dogs running to see me when I would enter the room... They would tap on the glass to basically ask to be held, and would literally just sit on a shoulder and watch TV for hours in awe... Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 07/11/2019 02:59 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77215693 United States 07/11/2019 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TRUE STORY Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77215693 on one of my ABDUCTIONS (yes you heard me right)((details added upon request)) 2greys took me into a room and there was a giant MANTIS no joke they told me he wanted to meet me personally. As I approached...the MANTIS began to twitch excitedly ... I got a little nervous. The greys reassured me and told me he just wanted to touch me So....(NO joke)...as I walked up to him....he stuck out one claw just thrust it out like he wanted to shake hands so I touched it with my open palm. Next thing I know....my brain is flooded with imagery of these mantis bugs crawling all over each other in tunnels on another planet. He told me that's how they communicate by TOUCH. 100% serious Well, they can't hear anything except ultrasonics with their one ear... Basically so they could hear bat echolocation signals and hide. I raised (~150) mantis nymphs hatched from a pregnant female years ago. Coolest pet ever. They were like little excited puppy dogs running to see me when I would enter the room... They would tap on the glass to basically ask to be held, and would literally just sit on a shoulder and watch TV for hours in awe... :baby-mantis: is it really that much of a stretch to think they could hiding intelligence? |
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TXGLP2 User ID: 76819314 United States 07/11/2019 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd never just injure an insect. Like Soros, I bought and deployed an army of nematodes to go out, infiltrate from the inside, kill and move on. Mosquitos and Roaches, on the other hand, don't get much sympathy. They have plenty of other things to bother besides me and risk their fate, usually winning hands down. Still, one fights on. Then where's your compassion? Their lifespans are short. One's sitting there next to you, a wasp is stumbling about, a stinkbug is slowly turning over to die on its back, the worm or poisonous hard-shelled thing you accidentally cut in half. Bugs are amazing and they all need to be there and I wish it weren't so, the whelps from no-see-um bites, I mean. They can run 2" long on me, no kidding. Fun to watch the poison take hold, then ebb. It's painful yet instantly recoverable. NOW. Last Edited by TXGLP2 on 07/11/2019 03:05 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77215693 United States 07/11/2019 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd never just injure an insect. Like Soros, I bought and deployed an army of nematodes to go out, infiltrate from the inside, kill and move on. Mosquitos and Roaches, on the other hand, don't get much sympathy. They have plenty of other things to bother besides me and risk their fate, usually winning hands down. Still, one fights on. Quoting: TXGLP2 Then where's your compassion? Their lifespans are short. One's sitting there next to you, a wasp is stumbling about, a stinkbug is slowly turning over to die on its back, the worm or poisonous hard-shelled thing you accidentally cut in half. Bugs are amazing and they all need to be there and I wish it weren't so. I agree Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: |
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AkashicRecord® User ID: 73894131 United States 07/11/2019 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TRUE STORY Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77215693 on one of my ABDUCTIONS (yes you heard me right)((details added upon request)) 2greys took me into a room and there was a giant MANTIS no joke they told me he wanted to meet me personally. As I approached...the MANTIS began to twitch excitedly ... I got a little nervous. The greys reassured me and told me he just wanted to touch me So....(NO joke)...as I walked up to him....he stuck out one claw just thrust it out like he wanted to shake hands so I touched it with my open palm. Next thing I know....my brain is flooded with imagery of these mantis bugs crawling all over each other in tunnels on another planet. He told me that's how they communicate by TOUCH. 100% serious Well, they can't hear anything except ultrasonics with their one ear... Basically so they could hear bat echolocation signals and hide. I raised (~150) mantis nymphs hatched from a pregnant female years ago. Coolest pet ever. They were like little excited puppy dogs running to see me when I would enter the room... They would tap on the glass to basically ask to be held, and would literally just sit on a shoulder and watch TV for hours in awe... is it really that much of a stretch to think they could hiding intelligence? Oh, they don't hide it at all. They are very smart and inquisitive. You can watch and see what they are looking at and focusing on. If you observe them over many months, there's zero doubt whatsoever. They seem to have an excellent memory capacity. Upon finding a tiny hole in which to escape, it only took one time for them (as babies) to immediately run back to the exit when placed back into confinement in a different area. Approaching them while holding something unfamiliar showed complex discernment and reasoning traits, the mantis was able to realize a demarcation between myself and the foreign object. Something unintelligent wouldn't be able to discern between the separateness of objects, etc. in that way... Oh, and they also love watermelon...as weird as that is. They never eat anything but bugs, but watermelon chunks are an interesting and unexpected treat. (When I ran out of wingless fruit flies in,the winter, they ate raw beef in a pinch...) Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 07/11/2019 03:33 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Request Rejected User ID: 63573762 Germany 07/11/2019 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77215693 Mirror test A baboon looking in a mirror The mirror test – sometimes called the mark test, mirror self-recognition test (MSR), red spot technique, or rouge test – is a behavioural technique developed in 1970 by psychologist Gordon Gallup Jr. as an attempt to determine whether an animal possesses the ability of visual self-recognition.[1] The MSR test is the traditional method for attempting to measure self-awareness. However, there has been agreement that animals can be self-aware in ways not measured by the mirror test, such as distinguishing between their own and others' songs and scents.[2] On the other hand, animals that can pass the MSR do not necessarily have self-awareness.[3] In the classic MSR test, an animal is anaesthetised and then marked (e.g., painted, or a sticker attached) on an area of the body the animal cannot normally see. When the animal recovers from the anesthetic, it is given access to a mirror. If the animal then touches or investigates the mark, it is taken as an indication that the animal perceives the reflected image as itself, rather than of another animal. ANTS passed the mirror test meaning they recognized themselves. [link to www.animalcognition.org] Ants In 2015, scientists published research11 that suggests some ants can recognize themselves when looking in a mirror. When viewing other ants through glass, ants didn’t divert from their normal behaviors. However, their behavior did change when they were put in front of a mirror. The ants would move slowly, turn their heads back and forth, shake their antennae, and touch the mirror. They’d retreat and re-approach the mirror. Sometimes they would groom themselves. ANTS are SELF AWARE Nice "code" lol G-d's Light is impenetrable armor to real BUGS <mirror>. Squashing ignorance is as easy as enlightening yourself to the truth and then saying "NO". The Light of Lights is darkness transmuted. Namaste |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 07/11/2019 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TRUE STORY Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77215693 on one of my ABDUCTIONS (yes you heard me right)((details added upon request)) 2greys took me into a room and there was a giant MANTIS no joke they told me he wanted to meet me personally. As I approached...the MANTIS began to twitch excitedly ... I got a little nervous. The greys reassured me and told me he just wanted to touch me So....(NO joke)...as I walked up to him....he stuck out one claw just thrust it out like he wanted to shake hands so I touched it with my open palm. Next thing I know....my brain is flooded with imagery of these mantis bugs crawling all over each other in tunnels on another planet. He told me that's how they communicate by TOUCH. 100% serious Well, they can't hear anything except ultrasonics with their one ear... Basically so they could hear bat echolocation signals and hide. I raised (~150) mantis nymphs hatched from a pregnant female years ago. Coolest pet ever. They were like little excited puppy dogs running to see me when I would enter the room... They would tap on the glass to basically ask to be held, and would literally just sit on a shoulder and watch TV for hours in awe... :baby-mantis: Awwwww |
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Goliathus User ID: 76651449 Canada 07/11/2019 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell them to stop invading my space and I will stop crushing them. Evil bastards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76313497 Bugs were here long before you were, bucko. "We're not scaremongering, this is really happening." - Thom Yorke "We are accidents waiting to happen." - Thom Yorke "We are the Universe figuring itself out." - Me |
Cat in the Tin Foil Hat User ID: 77288913 United States 07/11/2019 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is REALLY odd to me.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77215693 Is that deep down...I think I all ready knew. I'm convinced they do feel a kind of fear as well. I don't know if they know they are about to die, but there is some brain signal telling them to run as fast as their little legs can run. That's why I try to trap and release. Except ants. Those little bastards just keep coming no matter how clean my place is. |
AkashicRecord® User ID: 50330480 United States 07/11/2019 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is REALLY odd to me.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77215693 Is that deep down...I think I all ready knew. I'm convinced they do feel a kind of fear as well. I don't know if they know they are about to die, but there is some brain signal telling them to run as fast as their little legs can run. That's why I try to trap and release. Except ants. Those little bastards just keep coming no matter how clean my place is. Yes, they experience fear and the typical fight-and-flight behaviors associated. Why else would a cockroach run away from you? (There are exceptions, though.) Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
AkashicRecord® User ID: 50330480 United States 07/13/2019 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...so I showed it to the mantis and let her crawl on the screen. She tried to attack and catch it! After a few tries she gave up, so I tested this again with YouTube videos of other mantis and bug videos. It was rather fun. :) Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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