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Reincarnation was once a fundamental Christian teaching

 
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In the year 553 A.D., 165 Church officials condemned reincarnation. Prior to that time, it had been a fundamental Christian teaching: following the trail of a conspiracy that changed the world.

Reincarnation is no longer a part of today’s Christian beliefs is due to one power-hungry woman who had all references to reincarnation in the early Bible removed. A seemingly small act with historical consequences: how different would the history of the last two millennia have been if mankind had known that they themselves would reap the fruit of their (mis)deeds in a future earthly life—that they would have to sleep in the beds they had made?!

At the beginning of the Christian era, reincarnation was one of the pillars of belief. Without it (as later happened), Christianity would lose all logic. How could a benevolent, loving God give one person a silver spoon and leave the next to starve in their ostensibly only earthly life? Early Church elders and theologians, like Origenes, Basilides and St Gregory, taught reincarnation of the soul as a matter of course—it was written in the Bible, after all. Nowadays, most Christians suspect blasphemy if someone references reincarnation.

But let’s return to the 6th century after Christ, where a diabolical conspiracy was hatched in the court of the Byzantine emperor, Justinian, which would hold mankind prisoner in a false understanding of the reality of life and death for 1,400 years. In the generations before that, reincarnation was still an uncontested fact in the Christian church. Instead, whether Jesus had been more man or more God was heavily discussed. Nestorius, Abbot of Antioch, believed that Mary should not be called “the Mother of God”, since she had only given birth to the ‘human’ Jesus. But a Council declared Nestorius a heretic, sent him into the desert, and determined that Jesus was simultaneously human and divine. One of Nestorius’ bitterest opponents was Eutyches, who, on the other hand, believed that Jesus was only divine, as his human nature was completely subsumed in the divine. Today we call this teaching monophysitism (that is, the teaching that Christ’s two natures are joined into a new single human-divine nature). In 451, the Fourth Ecumenical Council (also known as the Council of Chalcedon) condemned monophysitism as heresy and persecuted its advocates. One of the most zealous persecutors was the later Emperor Justinian.

The Council of 451 Emphasises the Law of Reincarnation

As already mentioned, during these religious controversies, reincarnation was never once a topic of discussion. It was held to be a fundamental dogma, which was even reinforced by the Council of 451. Who could have imagined then that Christian theology would so essentially change with the ascension of Justinian to the throne of the Eastern Roman Empire in 527 and what profound repercussions the following centuries would suffer as a result?

The real actor in the shadows was a woman: Theodora, Emperor Justinian’s wife[...]

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So was keeping kosher


A lot has changed in two thousand years, dumbass
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My 3 year old son tells me about his past life (true story)



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So was keeping kosher


A lot has changed in two thousand years, dumbass
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One life is a fiction
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We die. We step into a Soul Trap, then we receive our Life Review.
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The Church must admit that we do not have one life.

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The Apostle Paul didn't mention one aspect of Jesus's life because his "Christ Jesus" was a spirit being and never a physical person. These canonical books of the Bible were written in Alexandria 200 years after the fictional events of the Passion in a setting that was a blank slate. No one present at the time mentions it. Because it's fiction.
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I think I am the reincarnated serpent from the garden of eden
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Lol no. No it wasn’t.
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You reincarnate yourself by having children.

Your grandparents > your parents > *you* > your children > your grandchildren

That shit about floating around into bodies after you die is a bare faced lie.
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Lol no. No it wasn’t.
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Even in the purged Bibles with all the spirituality taken out Jesus explains John The Baptist's earlier incarnations. How did they let that one slip by?
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Because everyone would just kill themselves if they didn't have rich parents.
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There is no way that the Bible would teach this...

Why? Because the Bible prophesies about the end of the world... The whole book of Revelation - is Prophecy, that foretells what's happening at the end... and much of it we see every day in the news....

Different wars that will happen... the countries involved... Signs in the sky- Things we haven't seen, ever- previous. The sea and the waves roaring...

It's all happening now...

In the Bible, in Revelation, it speaks of One man in the end - the antichrist- that will rule the entire world.... "No man may buy or sell, except that he takes the mark..." For two thousand years, people wondered how One Man can rule the entire planet... Now, it doesn't look that out of reach. And whether they know it or not, the globalists are fulfilling prophecy... by getting the world ready for him.

I said all that to say this: If there were reincarnation, then the world would not end. Because where would people reincarnate to- if the world is no more?

But don't believe me... Ask God.. if reincarnation is true or not. In fact you can ask Him a bunch of things. Just don't ask like you're the boss, and He has something that He needs to prove to you... That doesn't usually work that well with Him. And when you get an answer, Thank Him for taking the trouble to answer you.

You can even ask Him - "How can I get close to You?" "I want to be Your Child... how can I?"... Or "I want to get to heaven.. if it exists,... when I die... How can I get there?"

Good Luck Op.

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There is no way that the Bible would teach this...

Why? Because the Bible prophesies about the end of the world... The whole book of Revelation - is Prophecy, that foretells what's happening at the end... and much of it we see every day in the news....

Different wars that will happen... the countries involved... Signs in the sky- Things we haven't seen, ever- previous. The sea and the waves roaring...

It's all happening now...

In the Bible, in Revelation, it speaks of One man in the end - the antichrist- that will rule the entire world.... "No man may buy or sell, except that he takes the mark..." For two thousand years, people wondered how One Man can rule the entire planet... Now, it doesn't look that out of reach. And whether they know it or not, the globalists are fulfilling prophecy... by getting the world ready for him.

I said all that to say this: If there were reincarnation, then the world would not end. Because where would people reincarnate to- if the world is no more?

But don't believe me... Ask God.. if reincarnation is true or not. In fact you can ask Him a bunch of things. Just don't ask like you're the boss, and He has something that He needs to prove to you... That doesn't usually work that well with Him. And when you get an answer, Thank Him for taking the trouble to answer you.

You can even ask Him - "How can I get close to You?" "I want to be Your Child... how can I?"... Or "I want to get to heaven.. if it exists,... when I die... How can I get there?"

Good Luck Op.

banana
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A loving God will never end the world
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I said all that to say this: If there were reincarnation, then the world would not end. Because where would people reincarnate to- if the world is no more?

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Not much of a belief system if the end game is destruction, instead of the "good guys" winning, you know?

chuckle

Anyway don't forget about the rapture, essentially storing the souls elsewhere in case things go bad in the end, eh?

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Reincarnation is true. Injustice in the world does not come from nowhere.
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The Church must admit that we do not have one life.

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I am the church, it is appointed for man to die, once then the judgement.

You have been forewarned!!
Life is short
Death is sure
Sin the cause
Christ the cure!
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Because everyone would just kill themselves if they didn't have rich parents.
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yeah think about it.

they need slaves.

knowledge of these things is POWER. the ultimate power.


what was the first even in the story of Jesus?

the 3 wisemen knew Jesus had incarnated.

So did Herod.

so they killed all the children, to prevent the reincarnation.


They don't WANT you to know anything about reincarnation, because you'd have the greatest knowledge of power there is.

to be able to come back with the knowledge of your previous life, would make you a man or woman of great stature and experience. you would become the most powerful people on earth.

they do not want you to.

but they themselves are well versed in the processes.

pretty common theme in dozens of movies.

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The Church must admit that we do not have one life.

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I am the church, it is appointed for man to die, once then the judgement.

You have been forewarned!!
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jerkit
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grizzy Reincarnation is a lie. Here is the biblical story of the rich man and Lazarus.

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:grizzy: Reincarnation is a lie. Here is the biblical story of the rich man and Lazarus.

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The bible includes several references to the past lives of main characters, throughout.

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There is no way that the Bible would teach this...

Why? Because the Bible prophesies about the end of the world... The whole book of Revelation - is Prophecy, that foretells what's happening at the end... and much of it we see every day in the news....

Different wars that will happen... the countries involved... Signs in the sky- Things we haven't seen, ever- previous. The sea and the waves roaring...

It's all happening now...

In the Bible, in Revelation, it speaks of One man in the end - the antichrist- that will rule the entire world.... "No man may buy or sell, except that he takes the mark..." For two thousand years, people wondered how One Man can rule the entire planet... Now, it doesn't look that out of reach. And whether they know it or not, the globalists are fulfilling prophecy... by getting the world ready for him.

I said all that to say this: If there were reincarnation, then the world would not end. Because where would people reincarnate to- if the world is no more?

But don't believe me... Ask God.. if reincarnation is true or not. In fact you can ask Him a bunch of things. Just don't ask like you're the boss, and He has something that He needs to prove to you... That doesn't usually work that well with Him. And when you get an answer, Thank Him for taking the trouble to answer you.

You can even ask Him - "How can I get close to You?" "I want to be Your Child... how can I?"... Or "I want to get to heaven.. if it exists,... when I die... How can I get there?"

Good Luck Op.

banana
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A loving God will never end the world
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There's a whole book about it Op.

yeahsure
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Because everyone would just kill themselves if they didn't have rich parents.
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There's significantly way more odds of being one of the billions of poor and dirty folk living in 3rd world countries, especially if your karma is terrible, you know? That you don't currently is a rare and precious gift that you should make good use of!

chuckle
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Mormon teaching said that if blacks lived a good life they would be reincarnated as white people.

i would assume the opposite to be true.

live like a nagger, be reincarnated as a nagger.


that was the whole basis of the Hindu religion/buddhism religion for 5000 years.

live a good life, you get reincarnated into a higher caste.


be an asshole, you will get reincarnated into lower caste. or possible as an animal.


to tell you the truth i can explain to you EXACTLY it works, down to the cellular processes.

there is a point, at the molecular level where the metaphysical neatly meshes with the biological/material universe. and it is not really even that hard to understand in fact, it's simply irrefutable science.

that they don't want the general public to know.

that's kind of what the Truman show was about , you know.

people who don't know they're being watched vs people who know they're being watched.

if everyone knew, with absolute certainty they'd be reincarnated as cockroaches for subverting righteous authority, everyone would be in this frantic competition to b the 'most beautiful' people

not because they feel it. or understand it. it becomes simply a bottom line, reward/punishment principle.

in reality good and evil is an infinitely gray area, hard to define. some people really really deserve to go to hell. nobody wants to save them from hell, because they really need to get there, fast and suffer. too many people want it that way.
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Mormon teaching said that if blacks lived a good life they would be reincarnated as white people.

i would assume the opposite to be true.

live like a nagger, be reincarnated as a nagger.


that was the whole basis of the Hindu religion/buddhism religion for 5000 years.

live a good life, you get reincarnated into a higher caste.


be an asshole, you will get reincarnated into lower caste. or possible as an animal.


to tell you the truth i can explain to you EXACTLY it works, down to the cellular processes.

there is a point, at the molecular level where the metaphysical neatly meshes with the biological/material universe. and it is not really even that hard to understand in fact, it's simply irrefutable science.

that they don't want the general public to know.

that's kind of what the Truman show was about , you know.

people who don't know they're being watched vs people who know they're being watched.

if everyone knew, with absolute certainty they'd be reincarnated as cockroaches for subverting righteous authority, everyone would be in this frantic competition to b the 'most beautiful' people

not because they feel it. or understand it. it becomes simply a bottom line, reward/punishment principle.

in reality good and evil is an infinitely gray area, hard to define. some people really really deserve to go to hell. nobody wants to save them from hell, because they really need to get there, fast and suffer. too many people want it that way.
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grizzy Reincarnation is a lie. Here is the biblical story of the rich man and Lazarus.

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The bible includes several references to the past lives of main characters, throughout.

1dunno1
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kitty Please do tell, or are we just supposed to take your word for it?
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that was the whole basis of the Hindu religion/buddhism religion for 5000 years.

live a good life, you get reincarnated into a higher caste.
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Point of contention here - Buddha was very specifically against any caste system, and that's not how it works in Buddhism anyway - it's not a reward/punishment system

chuckle
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that was the whole basis of the Hindu religion/buddhism religion for 5000 years.

live a good life, you get reincarnated into a higher caste.
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Point of contention here - Buddha was very specifically against any caste system, and that's not how it works in Buddhism anyway - it's not a reward/punishment system

chuckle
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The true meaning of life

Life in the material world is the best lesson for the soul.
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:grizzy: Reincarnation is a lie. Here is the biblical story of the rich man and Lazarus.

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The bible includes several references to the past lives of main characters, throughout.

1dunno1
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kitty Please do tell, or are we just supposed to take your word for it?
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Gosh honestly it's been years since I've read the thing, I wouldn't even begin to know where to look for examples. How about you read it anew, and share with us a list, since you seem pretty devout?