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Who will be “caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air,” and how does this happen?

 
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Who will be “caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air,” and how does this happen?
For this is what we tell you by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death; because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17;Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord. 1Thes4:13

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Get on the ships
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"those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first."
Did this already happen?
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If qualified disciples go to heaven who are the meek who inherit the earth?
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For this is what we tell you by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death; because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17;Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord. 1Thes4:13
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it will happen

and God knows who
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Get on the ships
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Dude don't go!

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a really big vacuum sweeper will suck you up like an ant off the hardwood floor. pretty basic stuff.
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a really big vacuum sweeper will suck you up like an ant off the hardwood floor. pretty basic stuff.
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I dunno man that sounds really bazaar. Did you do any double checking, I mean not even remotely biblical?
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"those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first."
Did this already happen?
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The bible is spiritual and it's the word of God and God is Spirit. It not to be understood with a literal application.

To be dead in union with Christ will rise first, is spiritual and happens even while our carnal bodies are alive. One cannot begin to understand the spiritual until he is dead in union with Christ, even while he is alive...
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"those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first."
Did this already happen?
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The bible is spiritual and it's the word of God and God is Spirit. It not to be understood with a literal application.

To be dead in union with Christ will rise first, is spiritual and happens even while our carnal bodies are alive. One cannot begin to understand the spiritual until he is dead in union with Christ, even while he is alive...
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"To be dead in union with Christ will rise first, is spiritual and happens even while our carnal bodies are alive"
stars
Now why would God resurrect an already living person?

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dont complicate things

these people go to heaven (pre-trib believers):
Ephesians 1


13 In Him you also who have heard the Word of Truth, the glad tidings (Gospel) of your salvation, and have believed in and adhered to and relied on Him, were stamped with the seal of the long-promised Holy Spirit.

14 That [Spirit] is the guarantee of our inheritance [the firstfruits, the pledge, and foretaste, the down payment on our heritage], in anticipation of its full redemption and our acquiring [complete] possession of it—to the praise of His glory.

these people inherit the earth:

Everyone except the above. These are people that lived through the tribulation. These people will have survived the tribulation and put their faith in Christ during. They will live on earth through the 1000 year reign of Christ in natural bodies.

After which there will be a "new heaven and a new earth" and then these people will be "The Bride of Christ"

@DGNif I understand your JW theology its similar except JW's teach erroneously that only 144,000 go to heaven.

BTW the JW's used to teach the above theology until a prideful group of men (the GB) thought that they were above everybody else changed it (funny how they included themselves in the 144k though). Wake up sir before its too late.
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dont complicate things

these people go to heaven (pre-trib believers):
Ephesians 1


13 In Him you also who have heard the Word of Truth, the glad tidings (Gospel) of your salvation, and have believed in and adhered to and relied on Him, were stamped with the seal of the long-promised Holy Spirit.

14 That [Spirit] is the guarantee of our inheritance [the firstfruits, the pledge, and foretaste, the down payment on our heritage], in anticipation of its full redemption and our acquiring [complete] possession of it—to the praise of His glory.

these people inherit the earth:

Everyone except the above. These are people that lived through the tribulation. These people will have survived the tribulation and put their faith in Christ during. They will live on earth through the 1000 year reign of Christ in natural bodies.

After which there will be a "new heaven and a new earth" and then these people will be "The Bride of Christ"

@DGNif I understand your JW theology its similar except JW's teach erroneously that only 144,000 go to heaven.

BTW the JW's used to teach the above theology until a prideful group of men (the GB) thought that they were above everybody else changed it (funny how they included themselves in the 144k though). Wake up sir before its too late.
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When asked if going to heaven is an open invitation to volunteers JW theology quotes Rv14
"Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth."
If you have more info please share it.

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Get on the ships
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Dude don't go!

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bumpbumpbump
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Hell, or pedo jw's.... hmmm that's a hard choice whi I want to spend eternity with.
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Get on the ships
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Dude don't go!

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bumpbumpbump
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I don't think you understand how quick a twinkling of the eye is.
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Get on the ships
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Dude don't go!

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bumpbumpbump
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I don't think you understand how quick a twinkling of the eye is.
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Either did he.
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...


Dude don't go!

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bumpbumpbump
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I don't think you understand how quick a twinkling of the eye is.
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Either did he.
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I new you guys enjoyed twinking..
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dont complicate things

these people go to heaven (pre-trib believers):
Ephesians 1


13 In Him you also who have heard the Word of Truth, the glad tidings (Gospel) of your salvation, and have believed in and adhered to and relied on Him, were stamped with the seal of the long-promised Holy Spirit.

14 That [Spirit] is the guarantee of our inheritance [the firstfruits, the pledge, and foretaste, the down payment on our heritage], in anticipation of its full redemption and our acquiring [complete] possession of it—to the praise of His glory.

these people inherit the earth:

Everyone except the above. These are people that lived through the tribulation. These people will have survived the tribulation and put their faith in Christ during. They will live on earth through the 1000 year reign of Christ in natural bodies.

After which there will be a "new heaven and a new earth" and then these people will be "The Bride of Christ"

@DGNif I understand your JW theology its similar except JW's teach erroneously that only 144,000 go to heaven.

BTW the JW's used to teach the above theology until a prideful group of men (the GB) thought that they were above everybody else changed it (funny how they included themselves in the 144k though). Wake up sir before its too late.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541300


When asked if going to heaven is an open invitation to volunteers JW theology quotes Rv14
"Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth."
If you have more info please share it.
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@dgn, you are an intelligent guy. dont let people tell you what you can and cant read. Do your own reaserch. look at all sides of the doctrine.

144k only is a false doctrine.
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dont complicate things

these people go to heaven (pre-trib believers):
Ephesians 1


13 In Him you also who have heard the Word of Truth, the glad tidings (Gospel) of your salvation, and have believed in and adhered to and relied on Him, were stamped with the seal of the long-promised Holy Spirit.

14 That [Spirit] is the guarantee of our inheritance [the firstfruits, the pledge, and foretaste, the down payment on our heritage], in anticipation of its full redemption and our acquiring [complete] possession of it—to the praise of His glory.

these people inherit the earth:

Everyone except the above. These are people that lived through the tribulation. These people will have survived the tribulation and put their faith in Christ during. They will live on earth through the 1000 year reign of Christ in natural bodies.

After which there will be a "new heaven and a new earth" and then these people will be "The Bride of Christ"

@DGNif I understand your JW theology its similar except JW's teach erroneously that only 144,000 go to heaven.

BTW the JW's used to teach the above theology until a prideful group of men (the GB) thought that they were above everybody else changed it (funny how they included themselves in the 144k though). Wake up sir before its too late.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541300


When asked if going to heaven is an open invitation to volunteers JW theology quotes Rv14
"Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth."
If you have more info please share it.
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@dgn, you are an intelligent guy. dont let people tell you what you can and cant read. Do your own reaserch. look at all sides of the doctrine.

144k only is a false doctrine.
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"these people inherit the earth:
Everyone except the above."


Is everyone not going to heaven going to inherit the earth, or be exterminated for their disregard like in Noah's day?
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"those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first."
Did this already happen?
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No not yet!
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Get on the ships
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No ships !
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Get on the ships
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No ships !
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No ships.... where they go no one ever comes back....
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Oh, when the Poles Shift and Gravity ceases to exist for about 30 minutes...

Yup, see you in the air my friend!



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A Coot is a Bird....
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Oh, when the Poles Shift and Gravity ceases to exist for about 30 minutes...

Yup, see you in the air my friend!



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Uhhhh.... descending slow as ascending...right...?
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Well first you have to accept that Jesus was the Son of the Living God.. So that rules out a lot
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Who will be “caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air,” and how does this happen?
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It doesn't happen.

It's a children's fairy tale.

When you grow up you're supposed to let go of fairy tales.

What is wrong with you ?
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These things can only be discerned in the SPIRIT.

What are the CLOUDS? The dark mysteries of the written WORD. Into which the many look as into a DARK GLASS.

What is the AIR? The unconscious breathing or the un-meditated WORD that we are to speak when we are taken up into the TEMPLE.

What TEMPLE? Our own forehead where we are to have the WORD written upon our brains (by study).

How do we meet in the AIR? Through SPEECH/WORD as we share one with another, TRUTH.

How does Jesus return? IN FLESH....our FLESH as we are in union with TRUTH not lies. It is anti-christ to say he does not come in FLESH....our flesh.

Who is US/we/our? The 144,000....not a # of people .... a # as people....1+4+4 = 9 ....The woman/man-child seen in the desert in The Rev...... HER NAME IS TRUTH....the WAY of LIFE.

What does She/the earth/the man-child do in the desert/wilderness into which she was driven? She/we/US open our MOUTH and suck in and destroy the lies/fake news/false teachings sent after US.
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The 144,000 come out of the MAN who's # is 666. 6+6+6=18 = 9

Adam 1st formed....then deep sleep 2000 years...the Eve is taken out of him.

We do not leave we remain here with the poor who inherit the earth. The poor require the 2 risen witness = TRUTH of the 2 dark clouds of the OT and NT.

The RISE in TRUTH and with the spoken word of TRUTH enter the hearts of the poor as they/the 2 enter the hearts of MAN-kind.





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