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Can we have a SERIOUS DISCUSSION? Just so we are ALL clear on what a pedophile is as this Epstein trial continues to develops

 
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The reason I am posting this is for educational and for intellectual discussion on the topic. Sadly, we, society, are ALL CULPABLE to all of this, as we've never policed, protested or condemned any of what I share below, but instead, all participated in the viewing and supporting of by way of our purchasing power in media choices and what we allow to get away with being covered under "FREEDOM OF SPEECH".

People like Larry Flint, Hugh Hefner and others will prosper from it and be portrayed as heroes for it, while TRUE HEROES of Freedom of Speech, the whistle blowers, get suicided instead, with little to no outrage or investigation.

So if you're going to rage on the topic of pedophilia, learn you terms so you know what and who to outrage towards.

Start here. These are both models, nothing sexual... UNTIL, you put labels over their heads. There is NOTHING WRONG with the image, except that two words changes the context: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

The following ages are in regard to females on this subject, as it pertains to the Epstein case coming up as well. Epstein was about younger females. Catholic Priests and Hollywood would be about mostly boys. Females are also more profitable in marketing, where as boys are a silent/taboo topic, just as is female on male assault or rape, with many double standards applied.

I provide you this link for reference, in case you wish to argue, make sure you know what you're talking about: [link to www.ageofconsent.net (secure)]

Healthy heterosexual males, but also, Indoctrinated America Male Beta, Fundamentalist or similarly brainwashed = 18 and older, always and only. Women ONLY exist at 18. These hypocrites won't screw a girl who is 17 and 364 days old, arguing it is somehow obscene, but that "what a difference a day makes" and they are no different than any other perverted male who can't wait to exploit and fap to her instead. They also lack the logic and decry wanting to destroy younger men's lives like when a high school senior who is dating a younger high school girl, maybe getting together when he was 15 her 13, and then labeling him a "sexual offender" because on his 18th birthday, he can no longer have sex with a girl he's been having sex with for almost 3 years. Some of them literally believe that 18 is some invisible wall and line of demarcation, but fail to realize that it only applies in A LEGAL CONTEXT INTERNATIONALLY to protect young people (like to become strippers or do porn) but it is NOT THE LAW of each given state or country by way of "Age of Consent".

Ephebophile = 15 to 19 and which constitutes a healthy, normal, male as these are the LEGAL AGES in most parts of the world. Most young porn stars are 18 to 19 so, with the petite ones portraying themselves as younger these days as incest is a number one trend right now, which is a bit sick. Exploitation at this age includes older, legal actresses portraying high school girls in this age bracket and very often with sexual themes and/or nudity. Fast Times at Ridgemont High was a classic example, Mean Girls a more modern one. [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Hebephile = 11 to 14 and this is where the Epstein trial is going to get interesting, if it's discovered that any of the girls fell into this categorya. 14 might only be justifiable in a few places around the world, where that culture is more inclusive (perhaps like tribes in Africa or isolated villages in outer parts of Russia), but which doesn't mean that it welcomes sick, older men from around the world to come and take advantage of younger girls. This of course is NOT TRUE in Thailand, Vietnam and countries in that area unfortunately. Sexual exploitation of this age occurs frequently on shows produced by Disney or Nickelodeon where children in that age bracket are groomed with innuendoes and adult humor and themes injected into "kids shows". This is you: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] & [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Pedophile = 10 and below and there is no justification, whatsoever, for this kind of attraction, engagement, perverting of, sexualizing and selling of children in a provocative and sexual way. However, we've all seen the most famous cases of exploitation with young stars in Hollywood and on the modeling circuit. A young Brooke Shields at age 10 posing nude or Jon Benet Ramsey comes to mind here.

All of this now established, I do want to make a comment about President Trump. His relationship and level of intimacy (which doesn't mean sexual, look it up) is between the both of them. Some girls are "Daddy's Girls", some are Tomboys, some are indifferent. As well, some men can't expression emotions or are openly affectionate and demonstrative when it comes to hugging or touch. My dad was this way, his father the even worse.

But these photos of him (again, context is everything) could be as innocent as they were then as the continue to be now. But in the context of this Epstein affair and them trying to smear him, unless they have ANY OTHER GIRL between 12-16, sitting on his lap or around him the way his own daughter Ivanka was, in these photos, then they really have nothing and those photos are merely Trump's love for his daughter. I for one think those two are soul mates, Donald and Ivanka, if you believe in reincarnation. Maybe lovers in a past life, definitely some kind of political or military kind if not. I mean, in a superhero or sci-fi movie, he'd be the evil henchman and she'd be his evil female sidekick, lol.

Here's the photos in question: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] , [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] , [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Again, I think they are innocent and just super close, but anyway, back to the topic at hand.

Here's some examples... ALL LEGAL IMAGES EASILY FOUND ON THE INTERNET. ***DO NOT CLICK IF YOU'RE AN ADULT WHO CAN'T HANDLE AN ADULT TOPIC OR DISCUSSION*** By Age Chronological

Again, keep in mind... ALL OF THE IMAGES BELOW WERE CONSENTED TO, APPROVED AND VIEWED BY THE PUBLIC AND ARE ALL LEGAL.

Brooke Shields, age 10, as CONSENTED BY HER OWN MOTHER. These images are still LEGALLY UP ON THE INTERNET as they have been deemed ART, not porn, by several courts of law: *only graphic photo of all the links but legally safe to view online* [link to iconicphotos.wordpress.com (secure)]

Brook Shields, Age 11 in "Pretty Baby": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Natalie Portman, age 11, in "Leon: The Professional": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Chloe Grace Moretz, Age 11 in "Kick Ass": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Jodie Foster, Age 12 in "Taxi Driver": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Dakota Fanning, Age 12 in "Hounddog": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Brook Shields, Age 14 in "Blue Lagoon": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Evan Rachel Wood, Age 14 in "Thirteen": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Olivia D'Abo, Age 14 in "Conan the Destroyer": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Alicia Silverstone, Age 15 in "The Crush": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Drew Barrymore, Age 15 in "Poison Ivy": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Dominique Swain, Age 15 in "Lolita": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Milla Jovavich, Age 15 in "Return to the Blue Lagoon": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Nikki Reed, Age 17 in "Mini's First Time": [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

And remember... This song... Was published at a time when people said it was innocent. Now, what if you took this song, and put it to a slide show of young Disney, Hollywood, Movie, Television and Music pop-icons, as well as young beauty pageant, gymnasts and similar instead? There would be OUTRAGE! Context is everything, unfortunately.

Watch how this dude pulls a "Uncle Joe Biden" move at 2:14 and literally jumps up from his seat. The girl instinctively knows to run from this creeper too!



*My preference has always been older women, sadly. I was attracted to my 20-30 year old aunts and cousins (by marriage as a young kid, but I never knew why): [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] , [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] and just about every woman on this list: [link to www.ranker.com (secure)]

Oh, and I'm a leg and foot guy and LOVE zaftig, curvy women too! :)
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Wow, 1 star bandit and 14 views, hmm... Real adults here.

Well, I support what the President says on this!!!

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Oh look, it's the resident child f'er. Once again trying to soft peddle for the pedos.
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Oh look, it's the resident child f'er. Once again trying to soft peddle for the pedos.
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Oh look, another ignorant member of GLP, who I clearly defined in my write up above. Been here longer than you and it's obvious you didn't even read my INTELLIGENT post above as you'd see my preferences at the very end of it.

You fit into the first category of Fundamentalist Cuck, obviously.
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Haha! I see you are one of those "no-life" people who make green karma by "reporting abusive posts", but have NOTHING to add to real adult discussions, LOL!
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Where exactly do you hope this discussion goes, OP?
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Where exactly do you hope this discussion goes, OP?
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Well, there's been much labeling and name calling, incorrectly of members of this board, when trying to discuss the Epstein/Clinton issue for one thing and as to what pedophilia is for another.

I just think it's highly hypocritical how we live in a society and world where sex (and the abuse and profiteering on it) is widely excepted and condoned and the outrage often seems feigned, to the degree to which the mainstream media will inject any energy or drama into a matter.

That is, unless it's a blatant act of pedophilia, like when someone molests (I never understood that word when it was actual penetration and rape) an obvious little kid or young teen, where it was unwanted and unwarranted, there is little legal movement on it, or action taken against it, let alone outrage by the public.

When JonBenét Ramsey was murdered, there was more exploitation by the press of her in her "dolled up, glamorized and sexual looking poses and makeup" as opposed as doing her the honor and remembering her as a 6 YEAR OLD CHILD. No, instead, to sell papers and media coverage, they insisted on showing her in make up and giving every sick pedo fuck out there something to salivate over. Even in her death, she would be exploited for years to come as a result. AND, mysteriously, nobody was ever charged with her murder? Seriously? Safe and well protected in her own home and yet she was murdered? Does that even sound logical to anyone? Most people don't let their children up to the age of 15 out past 10PM for fear of strangers and here's a 6 year old, getting murdered, in her own home, around midnight? What the actual fuck?

I'm upset because people are hiding this shit under the guise of "Free Speech" as people like Larry Flint, Hugh Hefner did. Meanwhile, whereas that stuff, cable and internet porn and all else is widely accepted and even joked about these days, there are STILL backward thinking morons who are offended by a woman breastfeeding in public? Like, what the actual fuck again?

Here's another one that doesn't make sense... Breasts will somehow destroy or damage a young child if he or she sees them, yet, HUGE BREASTS are thrust into the faces and mouths of about every 1 to 2 day year old child up until the ages of 3 to 6 months (on average) for feeding. Think about that.

Women complain about men who stare at their breasts and meanwhile, of the two most physical sensations they've experienced since being traumatized in being birthed into this world (you're underwater and warm one moment, then like Superman in Man of Steel, you hear sound for the first time, SUPER LOUD as the fluid you were in is now gone) and in the same 24 hours, your penis is sliced with a razor blade, with no anesthesia or pain blocker, in what is called a circumcision? Then you're given two beautiful, big breasts put in your face to which you don't sexualize, but instead, get the other most sensual pleasure known to man... eating food and being sated, followed by a nap?

I mean, fuck if babies aren't fucked up the minute they enter the world, ESPECIALLY if a male and circumcised.

So yeah, I'd like to discuss this topic, with intelligent people.
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I forgot about these two: [link to imgur.com (secure)]

Now they look like they are between 40 and 60 years old, sad really: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

The Olsen twins look like one of them knows how you die and the other knows when you die, ROFLMAO!

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What the actual hell?
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I know this:

It used to be that from 14 until whenever it happened, teenage girls used to hook up with older guys. 20+ year old guys. This was going on right on up to New Kids On the Block, when teenage girls were "adjusted" by the media to prefer younger boys their own age or appearing to be their own age.

You used to be able to to Prom and see all sorts of older guys there with their girlfriends whom they'd been with for a year or more.

Why? Why was this "Okay"?

Well, it was thought that girls couldn't do anything much but hope to land a guy with a great job/benefits/a future and these guys often times had that because all guys did pretty much out of high school.

But as jobs went away, benefits went away, home ownership dropped, affirmative action took root...well, now unemployed or underemployed "creepers" living in Mom's basement became quite undesirable. The black thug became desirable because the thug didn't spend all day on Sega or early PC and got the best drugs. If you were an alpha female, you got yourself a thug.

The trends go to the power, to the money.

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Now as for what was once pedestrian turned taboo, I think we all know that the more taboo something is, the more people want to do it or try it or experience it.




Here's an experiment in Cognitive dissonance:

Draw a 10-ish y/0 girl in a sexy peter pan costume: Outrage!

Now add Elf ears and wings and explain that as an Elf the girl depicted is 1000 years old. Art! Fantasy!

Do the same thing with a photograph...

now 3d graphics.
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I know this:

It used to be that from 14 until whenever it happened, teenage girls used to hook up with older guys. 20+ year old guys. This was going on right on up to New Kids On the Block, when teenage girls were "adjusted" by the media to prefer younger boys their own age or appearing to be their own age.

You used to be able to to Prom and see all sorts of older guys there with their girlfriends whom they'd been with for a year or more.

Why? Why was this "Okay"?

Well, it was thought that girls couldn't do anything much but hope to land a guy with a great job/benefits/a future and these guys often times had that because all guys did pretty much out of high school.

But as jobs went away, benefits went away, home ownership dropped, affirmative action took root...well, now unemployed or underemployed "creepers" living in Mom's basement became quite undesirable. The black thug became desirable because the thug didn't spend all day on Sega or early PC and got the best drugs. If you were an alpha female, you got yourself a thug.

The trends go to the power, to the money.

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Now as for what was once pedestrian turned taboo, I think we all know that the more taboo something is, the more people want to do it or try it or experience it.




Here's an experiment in Cognitive dissonance:

Draw a 10-ish y/0 girl in a sexy peter pan costume: Outrage!

Now add Elf ears and wings and explain that as an Elf the girl depicted is 1000 years old. Art! Fantasy!

Do the same thing with a photograph...

now 3d graphics.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


I completely agree with what you've written and I made a similar analogy with the use of older, legal actresses, taking on the roles of younger girls in movies and acting out sexual scenes. Because they are over 18 in real life, somehow, it makes it okay?

I didn't expect this thread to get any real discussion here at GLP. I know what this place is about and what it's become.

Thank you for giving some feedback, as an adult, and seeing this topic and thread with some insight and depth and not reacting like some fundamentalist prude from the 1800's.
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Yeah, I knew nobody would be brave enough to talk about this topic seriously.

Thanks again for the one who did.
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Yeah, I knew nobody would be brave enough to talk about this topic seriously.

Thanks again for the one who did.
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It's an interesting topic.

I'm just not sure there's any useful conclusions other than people are very programmed to react certain ways (black or white) to these issues which do certainly fall into grey areas regularly.

I had a cousin who had to register as a sex offender because he was 17 and she was 15 and they were in a LTR. He was brutally murdered and this was all the news seemed to care about even though it was over 10 years in his past, and the girl in question had nothing but good things to say about him.
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Someone in a minors phone
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Yeah, I knew nobody would be brave enough to talk about this topic seriously.

Thanks again for the one who did.
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It's an interesting topic.

I'm just not sure there's any useful conclusions other than people are very programmed to react certain ways (black or white) to these issues which do certainly fall into grey areas regularly.

I had a cousin who had to register as a sex offender because he was 17 and she was 15 and they were in a LTR. He was brutally murdered and this was all the news seemed to care about even though it was over 10 years in his past, and the girl in question had nothing but good things to say about him.
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Whoa, I'm just reading this now. That's truly sad and unfortunate. Sorry to hear of this.
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As a society we are a bit crazy with our laws bc a young teen male can end up as both a victim and the perp in some states.
16 is a good age on consent to me. I knew what I was about as a teen girl, but for commercial exploitation...shit I think it should be 21.

Epstein was about sex trafficking and possible rape and porn with girls as young as 14.
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As a society we are a bit crazy with our laws bc a young teen male can end up as both a victim and the perp in some states.
16 is a good age on consent to me. I knew what I was about as a teen girl, but for commercial exploitation...shit I think it should be 21.

Epstein was about sex trafficking and possible rape and porn with girls as young as 14.
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I COMPLETELY agree with you on this one, with 21 being the line of demarcation for both alcohol AND entering the sex industry businesses.

This way, more young women won't be exploited, physically scarred or harmed, intimidated, taken advantage of and left with a life full of regret for being young, dumb and full of cum foolish.

The only exception I have, with alcohol, is for those who serve in the military. With that kind of training and volunteering to defend and risk being killed, they deserve to drink and have drinks bought for them, for their service.
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Wait, you left out the sickness of Androphilia and Gynephilia!!

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Nature has been making moms at the age of 15 for millenia. Society created a law that said, rughtfully so, that in todays society one must be 18 to legally intercourse with an adult.

Society said 'dont listen to nature, listen to us' and we listened.
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Wait, you left out the sickness of Androphilia and Gynephilia!!

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Lol..
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OP is a child molester hoping to get approval with trickery. Fail.

OP you are sick and twisted and one day you will get caught. Then you will spend your life in a cold, damp, 5x8 cell for victimizing and exploiting children.
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True or false: Evolution is a geneologic response to thoughts



True or false: 18 being a legal age is a new societal trend when considering the length of Human History
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Anyone who is not a child has sex with a child, IS a SICK POS....
Any of ops wall of text is his way to justify his own perversion.
He will be treated as the others in prison. That is how we should treat them in public.
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It's sad, honestly. The people who are 1-starring this I can almost guarantee haven't read the thread.

Yet this is one of the most articulate, sincere treatments of the issue I've seen on GLP.

When JonBenét Ramsey was murdered, there was more exploitation by the press of her in her "dolled up, glamorized and sexual looking poses and makeup" as opposed as doing her the honor and remembering her as a 6 YEAR OLD CHILD. No, instead, to sell papers and media coverage, they insisted on showing her in make up and giving every sick pedo fuck out there something to salivate over.

Even in her death, she would be exploited for years to come as a result.
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In the mid-90s, child beauty pageants existed in a subculture mostly untouched by the mainstream consciousness, and her murder case introduced society to a world of little girls parading around a stage in heavy makeup and elaborate ensembles.
The sheer volume of JonBenét's glamour shots (dutifully splashed across every grocery store checkout line in America) spawned major controversy

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They used the pretext of a murder tragedy, to burn the images into the public consciousness, whether they wanted it or not.

My gut feeling is she was setup for the role from the beginning, not accidentally. but ofc I don't know.
Thread: This is what really happened to Jon-Benet Ramsey! Read carefully! She was obviously a victim of ritual sexual child abuse!

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People with a moral compass rooted in reality, the ability to think deeply and critically about what's right and wrong - is the most basic threat to the elite's world domination.

Deeply reasoned beliefs produce deep conviction; deep conviction produces cultural impact.

That's why the elite's plan involves dissociating people from their moral compass. Mass neutering.

There's basically two ways to do this.

1- Seduce people to love evil.
2- Make what is good seem evil.

Amazingly, they're doing both at the same time:

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Meanwhile, whereas that stuff, cable and internet porn and all else is widely accepted and even joked about these days, there are STILL backward thinking morons who are offended by a woman breastfeeding in public? Like, what the actual fuck again?

Here's another one that doesn't make sense... Breasts will somehow destroy or damage a young child if he or she sees them, yet, HUGE BREASTS are thrust into the faces and mouths of about every 1 to 2 day year old child up until the ages of 3 to 6 months (on average) for feeding. Think about that.
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It's almost hilarious, if it wasn't so insane.

If you can pollute something in the social consciousness such that people sincerely believe it's wrong, then DOING/BEING that thing then causes them to defile their conscience. (1 Corinthians 8:7-12)

The trick is- by making people believe that what is good is evil, they then are cornered into defiling themselves no matter what. Breaking them down morally.

The rampant name-calling and "Witch Trials" are the throes of trying to maintain that moral compass, having already lost it.

That's how you corrupt certain people, and transfer them into method #1.

Specifically....once they get hit with a dose of reality (read: a boner that wasn't supposed to happen), that entire false moral framework now makes them feel like a "pedophile", and that much closer (however unjustifiably) to that universal form of human depravity prevalent among the very rich (those who can lose nothing) and the very poor (those who have nothing to lose).

Simply put:

How do they turn everyone into "pedophiles"?
-> -> Subtly merge the definition with what everyone already is, but are programmed not to believe it.......yet.

Psychological sleight of hand, at its finest.

Where exactly do you hope this discussion goes, OP?
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Well, there's been much labeling and name calling, incorrectly of members of this board, when trying to discuss the Epstein/Clinton issue for one thing and as to what pedophilia is for another.
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You know you can't just express your thoughts like that and expect people to respond with "serious discussion."

This is the age of memes, bots, and understanding people without having to waste time listening to them. (So efficient <_<)

...And the age of guerilla warfare.

To make any progress (I think) you have to try different approaches of inducing people to think seriously, beyond their triggers and programming.

Satire, dissimulation, thought-experiments, the socratic method, and 'industrial' consensus cracking techniques ._.

you don't always get feedback, due to people's pride.
But sometimes you just have to plant seeds, and hope that some start thinking for themselves one day.
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Re: Can we have a SERIOUS DISCUSSION? Just so we are ALL clear on what a pedophile is as this Epstein trial continues to develops
OP is a child molester hoping to get approval with trickery. Fail.

OP you are sick and twisted and one day you will get caught. Then you will spend your life in a cold, damp, 5x8 cell for victimizing and exploiting children.
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Anyone who is not a child has sex with a child, IS a SICK POS....
Any of ops wall of text is his way to justify his own perversion.
He will be treated as the others in prison. That is how we should treat them in public.
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^ Two people who didn't read the thread. rolleyes

OP IS LITERALLY ATTRACTED TO OLD PEOPLE. NOT KIDS.

You expose your programming by the assumptions you make.
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you don't always get feedback, due to people's pride.
But sometimes you just have to plant seeds, and hope that some start thinking for themselves one day.
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Having been here so long now I can attest that things that I have said and were either ignored or ridiculed for are now repeated here almost verbatim and generally agreed on or welcomed.

Moses never makes it to the Promised Land, and Johnny Appleseed never gets to see the fruit of his labors.

Know that if you speak truth and wisdom, it DOES take root and don't be discouraged.

As Taylor, herself says, Haters gonna hate: Shake It Off.
"Belief is the enemy of knowing." -Crrow777

"Follow your heart, your intuition...it will lead you in the right direction." -Jewel Kitcher





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