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What happened on the moon?

 
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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.

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 Quoting: White Gloves 76876774


Stupid people (like moontards) cannot help being stupid. It is because they lack exactly the amount of intelligence required for them to realize that they are stupid. This cannot be fixed or mended - it is what it is.

The delusional, highly imaginative, role-playing armchair detective folks who think they're smart and know more about this subject than the actual professionals (Dunning-Krueger) are always the one's who believe in this kind of nonsense because, as I said, they lack intelligence.
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I studied the Apollo 11 mission pretty closely for about 10 years starting about 2002. I started because I wanted to know whether the moon hoax theory was real or not. I checked every fact, against every transcript, against every photo, against all available film. I figured if they had told a lie, they would have made mistakes. If they made mistakes, I would find them.

They did tell lies, and they did make a few mistakes. But they had nothing to do with any moon hoax. More associated with what they saw and found when they got there.

One of the mistakes was an error in a map of Tranquility base that was produced by the US Geological Survey. In 2006 I contacted Ken Tanaka of the USGS and told him of the error. Ken didn't know enough about the material to say whether I was right or not. He suggested I talk to Eric Jones of the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal. I already knew Eric and had swapped emails with him on a number of occasions. I held off until 2009. In the end Jones agreed with me, the map needed to be corrected. I was right.

I kept that intentionally quiet and only contacted Jones after hearing of an upcoming mission that was going to photograph the sites. I had to tell somebody before it happened so I told Jones. Not very long after that the NASA Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter took photos of the site, and exactly what I expected was seen in the photos.

Only 3 people on earth, maybe four, knew about that error. Me, Ken Tanaka, Eric Jones and possibly a fourth guy at the USGS. If that photo would have been faked up. They would have used that original Apollo era map to do it. And they would have got it wrong. They didn't. That for me was the final nail in the moon hoax coffin.
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Very cool.
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for anyone that is interested here is how all the tracking station relayed their information to Nasa.

[link to www.honeysucklecreek.net (secure)]

All this information was collected key punched into cards and fed into a computer that tabulated the number punch into each card to determine the flight path of Apollo to within inches.

Again I'll ask why would they do all this for a Hoax...
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Obviously you didn’t watch, and very effectively avoided the answer to that question.
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Actually I ignored the question all together based upon my experience with things like transponders and such...

what was the question again?
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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.

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 Quoting: White Gloves 76876774


Stupid people (like moontards) cannot help being stupid. It is because they lack exactly the amount of intelligence required for them to realize that they are stupid. This cannot be fixed or mended - it is what it is.

The delusional, highly imaginative, role-playing armchair detective folks who think they're smart and know more about this subject than the actual professionals (Dunning-Krueger) are always the one's who believe in this kind of nonsense because, as I said, they lack intelligence.
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Trust the professionals?

sheeplebah

Ok...LOL.
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Yes, the moon landings were faked. Anyone who looks into it for 10 minutes can see that.

Is the moon even something we could land on?
The lunar wave phenomenon seems to indicate it's some sort of projection on the firmament dome.



Rocket footage from when rockets are fired straight up often show them becoming impaled and suspended in a substance. The firmament seems to have the properties of a thick liquid or gas. Some speculate it is sulfur hexafluoride. Could explain why the stars and planets are all shimmering when you zoom in on them. They are translucent lights (projected?) in/on the firmament dome.

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Yes, the moon landings were faked. Anyone who looks into it for 10 minutes can see that.

Is the moon even something we could land on?
The lunar wave phenomenon seems to indicate it's some sort of projection on the firmament dome.



Rocket footage from when rockets are fired straight up often show them becoming impaled and suspended in a substance. The firmament seems to have the properties of a thick liquid or gas. Some speculate it is sulfur hexafluoride. Could explain why the stars and planets are all shimmering when you zoom in on them. They are translucent lights (projected?) in/on the firmament dome.


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Seriously I bet you have problems landing on earth...
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Yes, the moon landings were faked. Anyone who looks into it for 10 minutes can see that.

Is the moon even something we could land on?
The lunar wave phenomenon seems to indicate it's some sort of projection on the firmament dome.



Rocket footage from when rockets are fired straight up often show them becoming impaled and suspended in a substance. The firmament seems to have the properties of a thick liquid or gas. Some speculate it is sulfur hexafluoride. Could explain why the stars and planets are all shimmering when you zoom in on them. They are translucent lights (projected?) in/on the firmament dome.


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I asked my older brother whether we went to the moon ...

His response:

Yes of course. Having met and spoken with Neil, Buzz, and Alan I can testify that yes we did land on the moon.

When I brought up the conspiracy theory we didn’t ... he responded:

Nonsense. Going to the moon was a decade long project that invented the new technology as it went along. Mercury, Gemini missions helped evolve into Apollo.
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seethis1
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My brother is very interesting ... he has met many famous people and spent quality time with them. Including the astronauts because that was an interest of his.

I only met GWB through him. He knew Barbara ... made her book.

He sat on a national board of directors with and was friends with Sally Ride.

Was fascinated with UFOs. Personally asked every famous person (including presidents) what they knew about UFOs.

That is why I asked him about he moon shit.
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I'm not saying the story isn't full of lies because it is. But the lies are to cover what they found on the moon, one of them is life. Yes, there are life forms on the moon. Single celled, bacteria, but life nonetheless. They've covered that up for 50 years.

Some of is was growing right on the surface. Some of it was found under the surface. The post-mission agricultural tests on common earth plants proved it was there. The surface soil samples actually caused some plant species to germinate and grow faster than the same plants ina control group planted in earth soil. Why? because the photosynthetic bacteria present in the soil had deposited plant growth hormones, and possibly nitrogen in the soil that caused the accelerated germination and initial growth. It's the same effect we see when we expose earth plants to earth soils populated with photosynthetic bacteria like cyanobacteria that grow in our deserts.

The soil under the surface was a little different, in that whatever was growing deeper, was extremely toxic to plants. It killed every plant they brought into contact with it. Some 40 or so species.

When they're telling you they never found anything, they're lying.
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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.

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 Quoting: White Gloves 76876774


Not sure why the Russians wouldn’t expose the lie, but if we landed on the moon in 1969, there would be a resort and condos up there today. And NASA wouldn’t say we no longer have the technology to get there and that all the original footage was lost etc.....
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I'm just waiting for all the flag hating Libtards to go to the moon to tear the flag down and not have a way to come back to Earth.

I'd be happy to pay for a one way ticket for them to go.


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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.

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 Quoting: White Gloves 76876774


Stupid people (like moontards) cannot help being stupid. It is because they lack exactly the amount of intelligence required for them to realize that they are stupid. This cannot be fixed or mended - it is what it is.

The delusional, highly imaginative, role-playing armchair detective folks who think they're smart and know more about this subject than the actual professionals (Dunning-Krueger) are always the one's who believe in this kind of nonsense because, as I said, they lack intelligence.
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Trust the professionals?

sheeplebah

Ok...LOL.
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I didn't say that. Reading comprehension much, moontard?
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I'm just waiting for all the flag hating Libtards to go to the moon to tear the flag down and not have a way to come back to Earth.

I'd be happy to pay for a one way ticket for them to go.


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Cool story, bro.

Do you have any other cool stories you'd like to share with us? You seem like a highly intelligent individual with much to share about the subject of liberals. I'm glad you decided to grace us with said knowledge on an unrelated thread.

Please, give us more.
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Every one that tries to say we didn't go to the moon skips a couple of very important points.

Let me try to explain this in the simplest of terms.

1) the Apollo spacecraft had a radio transponder in it. The job of this transponder was to receive and transmit signals between the tracking stations on earth all around the globe and of course the Apollo spacecraft.

The signals received and the replies transmitted were used to track the spacecraft on it's course to the moon using the science of telemetry. The differences between the signals and the various tracking stations were used to compute the actual course and distance of the Apollo spacecraft.

The tracking stations first rotated their dishes to get the best possible signal strength giving them a sight line out into space and then sent a radio signal to the Apollo spacecraft, the time delay (the Doppler effect) gave them the actual distance between the earth and Apollo to within inches along it's flight path from earth to the moon. Using several tracking stations and triangulation methods the Apollo spacecraft's course to the moon was tested constantly by ground control.

2) The Communists in China and the Soviet Union would have scored a huge political win if they proved at the time that the US never went to the moon.

So why didn't they?

Well for one thing the Soviets tried to land a robot on the moon at the same very time as the Apollo 11 mission. It's name was Luna 15. Oddly enough everyone that says we never went to the moon skips the fact that the Russians also sent a spacecraft to the moon during the same week we went.

It crashed on landing and wasn't able to return to the earth. Yet another reason why the Soviets would have dearly wanted to expose Apollo as a hoax, but they didn't. Their tracking stations also recorded Apollo's trip to the moon and back using the same radio signals we used to check it's trajectory.

In order for this to be the biggest fraud of all time you would have to convince all the world's scientific minds to lie about everything,and our worst enemies to be silent about it while we were at war with them in Vietnam...

Yeah..
 Quoting: Masiro®


In 1967, astronauts Roger Chaffee, Ed White and Gus Grissom knew the tech wasn't there to travel to the moon.
Gus held an unauthorized press conference to tell the world the missions were B.S. He also hung a lemon in front of the NASA logo.

5 days later, Grissom, White and Chaffee were incinerated inside a lunar command module during a test.

People have been silenced in various ways throughout the years for wanting to speak up. The globe lie is part of it. So yes, faking these missions and lying about the shape/nature of the Earth are among the biggest frauds of all time.
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Honestly, they can lie and cover up all kinds of insane facts.. religion alone is mind-blowing! After the united states got the first atomic bomb deployed the entire world surrendered. The entire world uses the us dollar (Federal Reserve Note) as a reserve currency despite all the misuse of it and the fact its total BS!

They could of easily pulled off a totally fake moon landing and if anyone would of busted it they would of died even an entire country, most of the world is seriously afraid of the united states and the banking cartel that runs it. No one could ever face this country and survive, anything they say goes.

The ONLY reason space travel is outlawed for humanity is the possibility of rogue colonies building WMD
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Re: What happened on the moon?
Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.
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Hiding the truth all these years has eroded Buzz's mental health. He's a stone cold looney tooner these days, listen to him talk if you can bear it.


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The moon landing was faked. It wasn't any more than a outrageous Hollyweird production.
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"My rubber ducky is plastic.

Therefore ducks are fake."


See how stupid you sound?
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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.
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Hiding the truth all these years has eroded Buzz's mental health. He's a stone cold looney tooner these days, listen to him talk if you can bear it.


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Yup.
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Re: What happened on the moon?
Neil Armstrong landed on the moon in 1969. However, the USA secret space program arrived during the 1950s.
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Neil Armstrong landed on the moon in 1969. However, the USA secret space program arrived during the 1950s.
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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.

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never happened never will happen unless suicide project

later tard
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The truth is always in the middle ground. We went to the moon, but the televised footage was staged.
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I'll go with this
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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.

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Not sure why the Russians wouldn’t expose the lie, but if we landed on the moon in 1969, there would be a resort and condos up there today. And NASA wouldn’t say we no longer have the technology to get there and that all the original footage was lost etc.....
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The Russians were in on it. There was no space race by that point. They were already, at the time of Apollo 11, consulting with each other over hatch designs for the upcoming joint Apollo-Soyuz mission of 1975.

You may have heard that the Russians sent their Luna 15 to the moon at the same time Apollo 11 was there. That was a support mission, not a competing mission. Luna 15 was there to carry secret communications between Columbia Capsule, and the Eagle lander to Houston without anybody picking it up. The signals were bounced off Luna 15 to Russia, then passed along to NASA. Those are the secret transmissions that some amateur radio operators claim to have heard.

I put that all together when I found an instance of Michael Collins calling into Houston while he was still on the far side of the moon and theoretically out of radio contact. It happened just as Armstrong was announcing they were going to do the EVA early. That's why they couldn't cut it out of the official transcripts and audio tapes. Both transmissions overlapped each other. They had to leave it in and hope nobody noticed. Nobody did until I did, in about 2008 or so.
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I asked my older brother whether we went to the moon ...

His response:

Yes of course. Having met and spoken with Neil, Buzz, and Alan I can testify that yes we did land on the moon.

When I brought up the conspiracy theory we didn’t ... he responded:

Nonsense. Going to the moon was a decade long project that invented the new technology as it went along. Mercury, Gemini missions helped evolve into Apollo.
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seethis1
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My brother is very interesting ... he has met many famous people and spent quality time with them. Including the astronauts because that was an interest of his.

I only met GWB through him. He knew Barbara ... made her book.

He sat on a national board of directors with and was friends with Sally Ride.

Was fascinated with UFOs. Personally asked every famous person (including presidents) what they knew about UFOs.

That is why I asked him about he moon shit.
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My uncle works for Ninetendo said your brother is absolutely a gullible loon. Sorry tard.
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Buzz Aldrin Would kick your azz for denying the very dangerous mission be risked his life to achieve.

Americans did, in absolute fact, land on the moon.

Conspiracies are one thing, but this is not one of them.

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 Quoting: White Gloves 76876774


Not sure why the Russians wouldn’t expose the lie, but if we landed on the moon in 1969, there would be a resort and condos up there today. And NASA wouldn’t say we no longer have the technology to get there and that all the original footage was lost etc.....
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The Russians were in on it. There was no space race by that point. They were already, at the time of Apollo 11, consulting with each other over hatch designs for the upcoming joint Apollo-Soyuz mission of 1975.

You may have heard that the Russians sent their Luna 15 to the moon at the same time Apollo 11 was there. That was a support mission, not a competing mission. Luna 15 was there to carry secret communications between Columbia Capsule, and the Eagle lander to Houston without anybody picking it up. The signals were bounced off Luna 15 to Russia, then passed along to NASA. Those are the secret transmissions that some amateur radio operators claim to have heard.

I put that all together when I found an instance of Michael Collins calling into Houston while he was still on the far side of the moon and theoretically out of radio contact. It happened just as Armstrong was announcing they were going to do the EVA early. That's why they couldn't cut it out of the official transcripts and audio tapes. Both transmissions overlapped each other. They had to leave it in and hope nobody noticed. Nobody did until I did, in about 2008 or so.
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They were suffering a wheat rust famine.
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Every one that tries to say we didn't go to the moon skips a couple of very important points.

Let me try to explain this in the simplest of terms.

1) the Apollo spacecraft had a radio transponder in it. The job of this transponder was to receive and transmit signals between the tracking stations on earth all around the globe and of course the Apollo spacecraft.

The signals received and the replies transmitted were used to track the spacecraft on it's course to the moon using the science of telemetry. The differences between the signals and the various tracking stations were used to compute the actual course and distance of the Apollo spacecraft.

The tracking stations first rotated their dishes to get the best possible signal strength giving them a sight line out into space and then sent a radio signal to the Apollo spacecraft, the time delay (the Doppler effect) gave them the actual distance between the earth and Apollo to within inches along it's flight path from earth to the moon. Using several tracking stations and triangulation methods the Apollo spacecraft's course to the moon was tested constantly by ground control.

2) The Communists in China and the Soviet Union would have scored a huge political win if they proved at the time that the US never went to the moon.

So why didn't they?

Well for one thing the Soviets tried to land a robot on the moon at the same very time as the Apollo 11 mission. It's name was Luna 15. Oddly enough everyone that says we never went to the moon skips the fact that the Russians also sent a spacecraft to the moon during the same week we went.

It crashed on landing and wasn't able to return to the earth. Yet another reason why the Soviets would have dearly wanted to expose Apollo as a hoax, but they didn't. Their tracking stations also recorded Apollo's trip to the moon and back using the same radio signals we used to check it's trajectory.

In order for this to be the biggest fraud of all time you would have to convince all the world's scientific minds to lie about everything,and our worst enemies to be silent about it while we were at war with them in Vietnam...

Yeah..
 Quoting: Masiro®


In 1967, astronauts Roger Chaffee, Ed White and Gus Grissom knew the tech wasn't there to travel to the moon.
Gus held an unauthorized press conference to tell the world the missions were B.S. He also hung a lemon in front of the NASA logo.

5 days later, Grissom, White and Chaffee were incinerated inside a lunar command module during a test.

People have been silenced in various ways throughout the years for wanting to speak up. The globe lie is part of it. So yes, faking these missions and lying about the shape/nature of the Earth are among the biggest frauds of all time.
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Surely you have a picture at least to prove what you just said...
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Every one that tries to say we didn't go to the moon skips a couple of very important points.

Let me try to explain this in the simplest of terms.

1) the Apollo spacecraft had a radio transponder in it. The job of this transponder was to receive and transmit signals between the tracking stations on earth all around the globe and of course the Apollo spacecraft.

The signals received and the replies transmitted were used to track the spacecraft on it's course to the moon using the science of telemetry. The differences between the signals and the various tracking stations were used to compute the actual course and distance of the Apollo spacecraft.

The tracking stations first rotated their dishes to get the best possible signal strength giving them a sight line out into space and then sent a radio signal to the Apollo spacecraft, the time delay (the Doppler effect) gave them the actual distance between the earth and Apollo to within inches along it's flight path from earth to the moon. Using several tracking stations and triangulation methods the Apollo spacecraft's course to the moon was tested constantly by ground control.

2) The Communists in China and the Soviet Union would have scored a huge political win if they proved at the time that the US never went to the moon.

So why didn't they?

Well for one thing the Soviets tried to land a robot on the moon at the same very time as the Apollo 11 mission. It's name was Luna 15. Oddly enough everyone that says we never went to the moon skips the fact that the Russians also sent a spacecraft to the moon during the same week we went.

It crashed on landing and wasn't able to return to the earth. Yet another reason why the Soviets would have dearly wanted to expose Apollo as a hoax, but they didn't. Their tracking stations also recorded Apollo's trip to the moon and back using the same radio signals we used to check it's trajectory.

In order for this to be the biggest fraud of all time you would have to convince all the world's scientific minds to lie about everything,and our worst enemies to be silent about it while we were at war with them in Vietnam...

Yeah..
 Quoting: Masiro®


Masiro, thanks for the thoughtful analysis.

Of course, the Russkis and Chicoms had plenty of competent engineers and scientists. They would have known immediately if the missions were faked. What a colossal propaganda coup that would make!

I spent a few decades as an aerospace engineer most of it in Downey where we built the Space Shuttles.

The critics do not understand that NASA is NOT good at keeping secrets. Unlike military black programs, few at NASA have so much as a Secret clearance.

In the 1960s a lot of people avoided the draft and Viet Nam by working in aerospace. There were lots of lefties when I worked there who would have salivated at the idea of exposing a massive conspiracy/coverup.

I used to work for Hank Hartsfield after he retired from NASA. He had been an astronaut since the USAF Manned Orbital Lab days. He was a CapCom (Capsule Communicator) on one of the Apollo missions. I spent a lot of time with him and shared some whiskey. If he had deep dark secrets, I would have found out. However, he was a honorable and straight arrow as they come.

During my career, I was famous for knowing things for which I had no clearance or briefing. I simply kept my ears open (actually, I used to turn up the volume on my hearing aids).

One time I was eating breakfast in a hotel in Santa Fe, New Mexico with my volume turned up. The McDonnel Douglas particle beam team sat at the next table. They proceeded to discuss every aspect of their proposal including the price. I think I may still have the napkin I took notes on.

Despite the CTs, we DID indeed go to the Moon multiple times.

Of course, there ARE conspiracies and coverups. I have detailed a few here on GLP.

Example: Shuttle Challenger was NOT brought down by an O ring but by an engineering error.

Shuttle Columbia should NOT have been flying. I have my notes from the meeting at JSC where my team told them that the entire leading edge of the wing had to be replaced or they risked losing the bird. They did not fix it and we lost Columbia.

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Every one that tries to say we didn't go to the moon skips a couple of very important points.

Let me try to explain this in the simplest of terms.

1) the Apollo spacecraft had a radio transponder in it. The job of this transponder was to receive and transmit signals between the tracking stations on earth all around the globe and of course the Apollo spacecraft.

The signals received and the replies transmitted were used to track the spacecraft on it's course to the moon using the science of telemetry. The differences between the signals and the various tracking stations were used to compute the actual course and distance of the Apollo spacecraft.

The tracking stations first rotated their dishes to get the best possible signal strength giving them a sight line out into space and then sent a radio signal to the Apollo spacecraft, the time delay (the Doppler effect) gave them the actual distance between the earth and Apollo to within inches along it's flight path from earth to the moon. Using several tracking stations and triangulation methods the Apollo spacecraft's course to the moon was tested constantly by ground control.

2) The Communists in China and the Soviet Union would have scored a huge political win if they proved at the time that the US never went to the moon.

So why didn't they?

Well for one thing the Soviets tried to land a robot on the moon at the same very time as the Apollo 11 mission. It's name was Luna 15. Oddly enough everyone that says we never went to the moon skips the fact that the Russians also sent a spacecraft to the moon during the same week we went.

It crashed on landing and wasn't able to return to the earth. Yet another reason why the Soviets would have dearly wanted to expose Apollo as a hoax, but they didn't. Their tracking stations also recorded Apollo's trip to the moon and back using the same radio signals we used to check it's trajectory.

In order for this to be the biggest fraud of all time you would have to convince all the world's scientific minds to lie about everything,and our worst enemies to be silent about it while we were at war with them in Vietnam...

Yeah..
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Masiro, thanks for the thoughtful analysis.

Of course, the Russkis and Chicoms had plenty of competent engineers and scientists. They would have known immediately if the missions were faked. What a colossal propaganda coup that would make!

I spent a few decades as an aerospace engineer most of it in Downey where we built the Space Shuttles.

The critics do not understand that NASA is NOT good at keeping secrets. Unlike military black programs, few at NASA have so much as a Secret clearance.

In the 1960s a lot of people avoided the draft and Viet Nam by working in aerospace. There were lots of lefties when I worked there who would have salivated at the idea of exposing a massive conspiracy/coverup.

I used to work for Hank Hartsfield after he retired from NASA. He had been an astronaut since the USAF Manned Orbital Lab days. He was a CapCom (Capsule Communicator) on one of the Apollo missions. I spent a lot of time with him and shared some whiskey. If he had deep dark secrets, I would have found out. However, he was a honorable and straight arrow as they come.

During my career, I was famous for knowing things for which I had no clearance or briefing. I simply kept my ears open (actually, I used to turn up the volume on my hearing aids).

One time I was eating breakfast in a hotel in Santa Fe, New Mexico with my volume turned up. The McDonnel Douglas particle beam team sat at the next table. They proceeded to discuss every aspect of their proposal including the price. I think I may still have the napkin I took notes on.

Despite the CTs, we DID indeed go to the Moon multiple times.

Of course, there ARE conspiracies and coverups. I have detailed a few here on GLP.

Example: Shuttle Challenger was NOT brought down by an O ring but by an engineering error.

Shuttle Columbia should NOT have been flying. I have my notes from the meeting at JSC where my team told them that the entire leading edge of the wing had to be replaced or they risked losing the bird. They did not fix it and we lost Columbia.

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Never been to the moon cool story bro!
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And that leads me to a glaring hole in the story. The Apollo 11 EVA started around midnight EDT on July 20 1969. It was supposed to happen July 21, about 8 in the morning EDT. Not long after landing Armstrong decided that instead of sleeping for 8 hours, which is what they were supposed to do, they would do the EVA right away and sleep later.

To my knowledge nobody has ever given a reason why Armstrong chose to do that. During that mission everything was, "by the book," otherwise known as, "the flight plan." Everything went by the flight plan. Leading up to Armstrong's announcement that he was going off the flight plan, there was no discussion of it, no mention of it over the radio from either Houston Control or Armstrong and Aldrin. After the announcement, there was no discussion, nobody asking why, nobody saying, "hey there boys, let's just stick to the plan... or at least tell us why we need to do that first." nothing. Not a fucking peep.

Why? Because they had already discussed it a length over the secret comm channels. You never heard any of it. On the Apollo 11 mission, if somebody wanted to take a piss outside of the scheduled time for it, they had to discuss it in the back rooms with the piss experts for 10 minutes to make sure it was going to be acceptable. That nobody discussed that huge, monumental change, not even for 1 second, is very suspect.
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Every one that tries to say we didn't go to the moon skips a couple of very important points.

Let me try to explain this in the simplest of terms.

1) the Apollo spacecraft had a radio transponder in it. The job of this transponder was to receive and transmit signals between the tracking stations on earth all around the globe and of course the Apollo spacecraft.

The signals received and the replies transmitted were used to track the spacecraft on it's course to the moon using the science of telemetry. The differences between the signals and the various tracking stations were used to compute the actual course and distance of the Apollo spacecraft.

The tracking stations first rotated their dishes to get the best possible signal strength giving them a sight line out into space and then sent a radio signal to the Apollo spacecraft, the time delay (the Doppler effect) gave them the actual distance between the earth and Apollo to within inches along it's flight path from earth to the moon. Using several tracking stations and triangulation methods the Apollo spacecraft's course to the moon was tested constantly by ground control.

2) The Communists in China and the Soviet Union would have scored a huge political win if they proved at the time that the US never went to the moon.

So why didn't they?

Well for one thing the Soviets tried to land a robot on the moon at the same very time as the Apollo 11 mission. It's name was Luna 15. Oddly enough everyone that says we never went to the moon skips the fact that the Russians also sent a spacecraft to the moon during the same week we went.

It crashed on landing and wasn't able to return to the earth. Yet another reason why the Soviets would have dearly wanted to expose Apollo as a hoax, but they didn't. Their tracking stations also recorded Apollo's trip to the moon and back using the same radio signals we used to check it's trajectory.

In order for this to be the biggest fraud of all time you would have to convince all the world's scientific minds to lie about everything,and our worst enemies to be silent about it while we were at war with them in Vietnam...

Yeah..
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In 1967, astronauts Roger Chaffee, Ed White and Gus Grissom knew the tech wasn't there to travel to the moon.
Gus held an unauthorized press conference to tell the world the missions were B.S. He also hung a lemon in front of the NASA logo.

5 days later, Grissom, White and Chaffee were incinerated inside a lunar command module during a test.

People have been silenced in various ways throughout the years for wanting to speak up. The globe lie is part of it. So yes, faking these missions and lying about the shape/nature of the Earth are among the biggest frauds of all time.
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Surely you have a picture at least to prove what you just said...
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And that leads me to a glaring hole in the story. The Apollo 11 EVA started around midnight EDT on July 20 1969. It was supposed to happen July 21, about 8 in the morning EDT. Not long after landing Armstrong decided that instead of sleeping for 8 hours, which is what they were supposed to do, they would do the EVA right away and sleep later.

To my knowledge nobody has ever given a reason why Armstrong chose to do that. During that mission everything was, "by the book," otherwise known as, "the flight plan." Everything went by the flight plan. Leading up to Armstrong's announcement that he was going off the flight plan, there was no discussion of it, no mention of it over the radio from either Houston Control or Armstrong and Aldrin. After the announcement, there was no discussion, nobody asking why, nobody saying, "hey there boys, let's just stick to the plan... or at least tell us why we need to do that first." nothing. Not a fucking peep.

Why? Because they had already discussed it a length over the secret comm channels. You never heard any of it. On the Apollo 11 mission, if somebody wanted to take a piss outside of the scheduled time for it, they had to discuss it in the back rooms with the piss experts for 10 minutes to make sure it was going to be acceptable. That nobody discussed that huge, monumental change, not even for 1 second, is very suspect.
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Their LEO tincan was spotted by numerous Australians so they needed to push forward the ridiculous theatre.





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