Chemotherapy warning as hundreds die from cancer-fighting drugs | |
JKJeepster User ID: 77117468 United States 07/20/2019 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am one of those folks that can't absorb the chemo, and I almost died from sepsis after the first treatment. In my case, the chemo was for palliative care as I can't be cured. So it was an easy choice to decline further treatments. But for those that are getting chemo for a possible cure, they should continue because this is the only current treatment for advanced cancer that has a high degree of success. Jeepster When my wife gets out of bed in the morning, the Devil says "Oh shit...she's up" |
CitizenPerth (OP) User ID: 77836459 Australia 07/20/2019 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is, there are people that can't absorb the chemo into their system. Look up DYPD toxicity. A person has to have the genetic testing to see if their system will absorb the chemo properly, but insurance companies won't pay for the test. It's around $4,000. Quoting: JKJeepster I am one of those folks that can't absorb the chemo, and I almost died from sepsis after the first treatment. In my case, the chemo was for palliative care as I can't be cured. So it was an easy choice to decline further treatments. But for those that are getting chemo for a possible cure, they should continue because this is the only current treatment for advanced cancer that has a high degree of success. sry to hear.. honestly... yer still with us though :) It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77705395 United States 07/20/2019 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My platinum based chemo gave me guitar superpowers. I didn’t have any negative effects that I’m aware of. Now the radiation, that shit will rip you up, and take some time to get over it, but you will never be 100% again. I also had the robot go at me 3 times, ripping my face off and carving me up like a Thanksgiving turkey, removing several tumors and hundreds of lymph nodes. Left a mean Jack the Ripper scar and a dent where tissue used to be. 4.5 years out I live and work like it never happen. You have to use your mind and will power to beat the cancer and the cure. Both will kill you if you let it. So don’t be a pussy, buck up, and beat that motherfucker. |
JKJeepster User ID: 77117468 United States 07/20/2019 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is, there are people that can't absorb the chemo into their system. Look up DYPD toxicity. A person has to have the genetic testing to see if their system will absorb the chemo properly, but insurance companies won't pay for the test. It's around $4,000. Quoting: JKJeepster I am one of those folks that can't absorb the chemo, and I almost died from sepsis after the first treatment. In my case, the chemo was for palliative care as I can't be cured. So it was an easy choice to decline further treatments. But for those that are getting chemo for a possible cure, they should continue because this is the only current treatment for advanced cancer that has a high degree of success. sry to hear.. honestly... yer still with us though :) Was given 6-9 months last February. But honestly, I haven't found the expiration date on me yet. Besides, doctors don't know how long someone will live. They have stats that they go by, but everyone is different. I have great pain management through hospice, so I plan to be around for awhile. Jeepster When my wife gets out of bed in the morning, the Devil says "Oh shit...she's up" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76498371 United States 07/20/2019 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may or may not have been discussed, but here is my trademarked TM treatment for cancer. Right now most of our cancer treatment is like one blanked Walmart. Treatment for cancer really requires a more individual and holistic approach. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77554547 Treatment for some cancers would be direct injection into the tumor with a cocktail of drugs and stem cells. The entire person would not be subjected to chemotherapy. This type of treatment may be more costly on the front end, but results would be more successful. ok...how do we get in touch with you...? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71088931 United States 07/20/2019 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three and a half years since my 8 chemo treatments and 32 radiation treatments. Stage 3 breast cancer. Same course of treatment that my oncologists' wife went through. It worked for her and it has worked for me. I traveled to a cancer center out of town where their death rate from treatments were extremely low. Quoting: Sea Island Cotton The cancer center here in the city I live has always had a higher level of deaths for their cancer patients receiving treatments. I think a lot of that has to do with doses being too strong. AMEN, I survived the stage 3 cancer and chemo also, you need to do your homework. |
CitizenPerth (OP) User ID: 77836459 Australia 07/20/2019 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is, there are people that can't absorb the chemo into their system. Look up DYPD toxicity. A person has to have the genetic testing to see if their system will absorb the chemo properly, but insurance companies won't pay for the test. It's around $4,000. Quoting: JKJeepster I am one of those folks that can't absorb the chemo, and I almost died from sepsis after the first treatment. In my case, the chemo was for palliative care as I can't be cured. So it was an easy choice to decline further treatments. But for those that are getting chemo for a possible cure, they should continue because this is the only current treatment for advanced cancer that has a high degree of success. sry to hear.. honestly... yer still with us though :) Was given 6-9 months last February. But honestly, I haven't found the expiration date on me yet. Besides, doctors don't know how long someone will live. They have stats that they go by, but everyone is different. I have great pain management through hospice, so I plan to be around for awhile. that's awesome... you can talk to me through pm here :) It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Waffles ™ User ID: 76546106 United States 07/20/2019 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read this great article a couple mins ago,,maybe there is hope in near future.. [link to www.studyfinds.org (secure)] ------------------------------------- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77345463 United States 07/20/2019 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemotherapy was invented in 1926 why are we still Using it?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76890717 American taxpayers have invested over one Trillion dollars into cancer research. Exactly Trillions given to researchers to cure not only cancer but other diseases also. What did we get for our money? Zero cures. But it is much worse as they used the money to invent new diseases and weaponize them. But this tells us all we need to know about those lying murdering scumbags: Goldman Sachs: Curing Cancer is NOT a 'Sustainable Business Model' Global bank says curing patients is not profitable enough, unlike treating them Global banking giant Goldman Sachs has declared that curing patients of terminal illnesses, such as cancer, is not a "sustainable business model." . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56370610 United States 07/20/2019 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was treated at Northwestern here in Chicago with 6 cycle of THE MOST HIDEOUS CHEMOTHERAPY AVAILABLE: CHOP : cyclophosphamide, doxorubicin, vincristine, and prednisone, plus 30-days of direct radiation at the residual tumors that still lingered. Today, 12 years later, still alive, run 20 miles a week, healthy and kicking. So what's the alternative? Had I not been treated I would have died one year after diagnosis. Don't tell me to take Vitamins, drink Hobbit water, or "go read Doctor Thus and So". My doctors acknowledged the treatment was barbaric, but effective. The art of oncology is to kill the cancer but not kill you. That's why it's important to be treated here in the USA by homegrown doctors who know what the fuck they're doing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77345463 United States 07/20/2019 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife was gone after 4 months of Chemo and Radiation. In fact every person I know that had cancer and was treated with Chemo is dead but yet people have come to this thread claiming "success". Why am I very skeptical and suspect paid shills from the Pharma industry are infesting this thread? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77824465 United States 07/20/2019 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife was gone after 4 months of Chemo and Radiation. In fact every person I know that had cancer and was treated with Chemo is dead but yet people have come to this thread claiming "success". Why am I very skeptical and suspect paid shills from the Pharma industry are infesting this thread? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77345463 . Paranoid much? |
nacho daddy User ID: 74285733 United States 07/20/2019 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They make a killing on the sale of the drugs! From the link: Scared patients turn to their doctors for advice. And that is where oncologic decision making gets really messy. Because in the United States, at least, many oncologists make a good deal of their income selling drugs to their patients. Here is how it works. Oncologists purchase intravenous chemotherapy from pharmacies. Patients then receive these drugs in the oncologists’ offices, with outpatient chemotherapy being an increasingly common setting for cancer care. The oncologists then bill patients’ insurance companies for the treatments, including billing the payer for the cost of the chemotherapy PLUS a percentage based mark-up. Medicare, for example, receives bills from oncologists that charge 106% of the cost of the chemotherapy. Many private insurers pay even larger mark-ups, especially from oncology practices that dominate their local markets and thus have pricing leverage. Read more here. [link to www.kevinmd.com (secure)] The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership. |
Renaissance Woman User ID: 74808330 United States 07/20/2019 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "effectiveness" is based on flawed research to begin with. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft I was one of the original research "chemo kids" and was that whopping "5% success rate" they had near the beginning. Problem is, my guardian was doing administrative work in that field at the time and had forged my papers to look like I had leukemia because the research subjects (or their parents) were being paid and she was an addict always in need of cash. I didn't have cancer when I went into chemo, so when I initially came out without cancer, they listed it as a success. For all we know, once the internal scamming, conning, and number fudging is done, the success rate of chemo may have been zero. In fact, it's likely. I have read a lot of shocking and disturbing stuff about cancer (lost my younger brother a few years ago), and I have read a lot of shocking stuff on a wide variety of other topics here on GLP, but... Just when I think there is not much left in this world that could shock me... Wow. This shocked me. Thanks for sharing. "For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light." |
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Renaissance Woman User ID: 74808330 United States 07/20/2019 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife was gone after 4 months of Chemo and Radiation. In fact every person I know that had cancer and was treated with Chemo is dead but yet people have come to this thread claiming "success". Why am I very skeptical and suspect paid shills from the Pharma industry are infesting this thread? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77345463 . Lost my younger brother after 4 months too. And everyone else I know who hadcancer. One older guy hung on for a few years, but also died. I hear you, AC. I have seen no success in my personal life. "For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76498371 United States 07/20/2019 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of assumptions being thrown around in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77824465 First... There are tons of different chemo medications used for treatment for different cancers. Chemo is a drug classification and not an actual drug name. Doctors know the statistics and your Oncologist can spout them off to you as far as the effectiveness of the chemo you are getting. I was told 70% survival rate with the course of treatment I was getting for stage 3 cancer. I am on chemo right now and do not get all the bad side effects. I am younger, so that might play a part, but I smoke copious amounts of weed and have never felt sick as a result of a chemo infusion. Also, if you believe everything you read on the internet, then you deserve what you get in the end. You can follow one of those bullshit remedies that are all anecdotal with no evidence to back them up, or take the proven statistically sound method of treatment that your Doctors will recommend. You can ask your Doctor for what treatment they would do if they were in your shoes and they will answer you accordingly. This thread just showcases the lack of trust most on here have with the medical profession. If you don't trust your Doctor, get a new one. They are human after all.... first of all there probably better than a 20 % chance you were misdiagnosed.... second : its the weed thats keeping afloat [pun intended ] third : you're young and so naive...live and learn . |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 07/20/2019 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: IM Cancer Free After 6 Yrs Of Suffring & I Wasnt No CHEMOsabbe political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76498371 United States 07/20/2019 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say what you will, but I've personally seen Chemotherapy save 4 life's...One of those life's are outside gardening as I type, and was given 6-8 months to live...So keep that in mind..aThere is a reason they use it people, so don't say things on here, or give bad advise that could cost someone Their life!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30401440 what happened to the other 96 Doc ??? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77819637 United States 07/20/2019 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The efficacy of chemotherapy is 3%. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76605456 Basically it is a mustard gas (World War 1) derivative. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Development of the first chemotherapy drug Edit As early as 1919 it was known that mustard agent was a suppressor of hematopoiesis.[37] In addition, autopsies performed on 75 soldiers who had died of mustard agent during World War I were done by researchers from the University of Pennsylvania who reported decreased counts of white blood cells.[32] " Good to read some truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77836471 United States 07/20/2019 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What’s the solution? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76640974 I found a few books to be extremely helpful when looking for alternative cure methods How not to die, by Dr. Michael Greger, is hands down one of the best pieces of literature on plant based diets and diseases and cancer. Another book I like is conscious parenting by Gabriel cousins M.D. It’s a great book not just for parents but even if your single there is a lot of helpful information for holistic wellbeing. Both books are cited with all the sources of information which I found helpful to do secondary research through. Yes, true. There is a mayor in Texas, forgot his name, who cured his prostate cancer with a vegan diet. I believe he wrote a book about it too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76498371 United States 07/20/2019 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife was gone after 4 months of Chemo and Radiation. In fact every person I know that had cancer and was treated with Chemo is dead but yet people have come to this thread claiming "success". Why am I very skeptical and suspect paid shills from the Pharma industry are infesting this thread? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77345463 . oh shyte !!!! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76498371 United States 07/20/2019 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife was gone after 4 months of Chemo and Radiation. In fact every person I know that had cancer and was treated with Chemo is dead but yet people have come to this thread claiming "success". Why am I very skeptical and suspect paid shills from the Pharma industry are infesting this thread? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77345463 . Paranoid much? no Doc...... he's just awake |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74593109 United States 07/20/2019 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three and a half years since my 8 chemo treatments and 32 radiation treatments. Stage 3 breast cancer. Same course of treatment that my oncologists' wife went through. It worked for her and it has worked for me. I traveled to a cancer center out of town where their death rate from treatments were extremely low. Quoting: Sea Island Cotton The cancer center here in the city I live has always had a higher level of deaths for their cancer patients receiving treatments. I think a lot of that has to do with doses being too strong. My friend recently passed after having stage 2 breast cancer The chemotherapy killed her within 6 months. It made her liver fail. If she would have had NO Treatment, she would still be alive |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74593109 United States 07/20/2019 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say what you will, but I've personally seen Chemotherapy save 4 life's...One of those life's are outside gardening as I type, and was given 6-8 months to live...So keep that in mind..aThere is a reason they use it people, so don't say things on here, or give bad advise that could cost someone Their life!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30401440 I have personally known 3 people who died because the treatment did not work or directly killed them Chemotherapy has been proven to SPREAD CANCER One who died was under 30 the other 2 were under 40 I have extensively researched cancer, oncology, and natural treatments for years. D.C.A restores the cellular metabolism of cancer cells from aerobic glycolosis back to OxPHOS G.C.M.A.F - is suppressed by the enzyme nagalaze released by cancer to immunosuppress the body. It is the vitamin D binding protein and it is the bodies most powerful immune modulator that turns on macrophage replication and their ability to see and destroy cancer cells. Gcmaf.se will explain. Cancer released Lactic acid which acidifies the blood and body, this is why taking / drinking sodium bicarbonate fights and kills cancer, because the lactic acid is the 2nd immunosuppresor released by cancer cell metabolism. Lactic acid directly suppresses killer T Cells. The body is meant to destroy cancer but cancer has 2 blocking mechanisms which is why one needs GCMAF and Sodium bicarbonate. |