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A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...

 
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AGAIN cold space pressure makes things ROUND and not flat pizza's with a crust.

anyone who travels AROUND the world knows better.
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Derp.
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I am not the derp here...
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"Cold space pressure makes things ROUND"-- did Starfleet Admiral Jeebus tell you that, or the voices in your unmedicated little idiot brain, Candunce?


Derp....
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There you go!
Consistent with the last 2000 years of solar observations!!!

The sun size does not change throughout the day.

Therefore earth must be a globe.

Case closed! Get a new hobby, flatties, you have been proven wrong!
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Someone posted a video of a sun fading and shrinking out of sight brought up through zoom after it left the naked eye

And you believe a spliced/cut up video that offers no comparisons posted by a Satan worshiper

You’re an idiot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

More zoomed in as in your shitty video - where is the fading? Oh and explain why the photo shows only the upper half of the sun.

fesszoom
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Nice photo with 0 context

I can do the same thing by laying the lense close to the ground, bringing the horizon higher
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

That the camera is far above the beach is quite obvious when looking at the sea in front of the sun. Laying the lens close to the ground won't give you a half sun, you would have to dig a hole into the ground to get a half sun. (Yep, I know the shitty videos that try to explain the sun setting behind the horizon by using a coin and a camera slightly below a table).


Can you post the original photo? Why do you always post this cropped shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

Did you ever hear that it is possible to mount a camera to a telescope? Just because your shitty video can't zoom in this much does not mean that others can't too. So what's your point.

Just another fail from a pathetic loser who can't explain the sun setting behind the horizon.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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There is no force as pulling. Show me, practically demonstrate, a motion from pulling.
Every motion is achieved by push.
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You know I'm wondering if OP meant this to be just a light hearted joke with punchline and all but everyone is taking it seriously. I mean read it. It's a joke, like, why did the chicken cross the road?
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Let's hear you...
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Nothing again.......
But I'm hiding??
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Let's hear you...
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Oops.

cruise

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Let's hear you...
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Oops.

cruise

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That's not you?
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Let's hear you...
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Oops.

cruise
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That's not you?
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No, it's made by one of your own ilk, henhouse dweller.

cruise

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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The world is flat, baseline, air floats, water descends, people are like water, deep and shallow.
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Someone posted a video of a sun fading and shrinking out of sight brought up through zoom after it left the naked eye

And you believe a spliced/cut up video that offers no comparisons posted by a Satan worshiper

You’re an idiot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

More zoomed in as in your shitty video - where is the fading? Oh and explain why the photo shows only the upper half of the sun.

:fesszoom:
 Quoting: Hydra

Nice photo with 0 context

I can do the same thing by laying the lense close to the ground, bringing the horizon higher
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

That the camera is far above the beach is quite obvious when looking at the sea in front of the sun. Laying the lens close to the ground won't give you a half sun, you would have to dig a hole into the ground to get a half sun. (Yep, I know the shitty videos that try to explain the sun setting behind the horizon by using a coin and a camera slightly below a table).


Can you post the original photo? Why do you always post this cropped shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

Did you ever hear that it is possible to mount a camera to a telescope? Just because your shitty video can't zoom in this much does not mean that others can't too. So what's your point.

Just another fail from a pathetic loser who can't explain the sun setting behind the horizon.

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No original photo? Gotcha
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Someone posted a video of a sun fading and shrinking out of sight brought up through zoom after it left the naked eye

And you believe a spliced/cut up video that offers no comparisons posted by a Satan worshiper

You’re an idiot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

More zoomed in as in your shitty video - where is the fading? Oh and explain why the photo shows only the upper half of the sun.

fesszoom
 Quoting: Hydra

Nice photo with 0 context

I can do the same thing by laying the lense close to the ground, bringing the horizon higher
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

That the camera is far above the beach is quite obvious when looking at the sea in front of the sun. Laying the lens close to the ground won't give you a half sun, you would have to dig a hole into the ground to get a half sun. (Yep, I know the shitty videos that try to explain the sun setting behind the horizon by using a coin and a camera slightly below a table).


Can you post the original photo? Why do you always post this cropped shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

Did you ever hear that it is possible to mount a camera to a telescope? Just because your shitty video can't zoom in this much does not mean that others can't too. So what's your point.

Just another fail from a pathetic loser who can't explain the sun setting behind the horizon.

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Seriously, just stop. Everything you link you literally don't understand shit. This is what causes the enlarged sun effect which causes that "half sun" over the horizon as its moving away, but again, you don't think at all at just regurgitate what science has fed you.

It's a 2 minute video, but it starts around 23 seconds, how it produces that effect, again, youll dismiss it because your uninformed and its just easier to accept "we spin so the sun goes around".

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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fesszoom



1m40s to show how the Sun sets, and produces the same effect since Hydra is so caught up on this picture. How's it feel to still be wrong, dumb shit?
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Take a walk to Louisiana



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Watch and weap, feeling flat yet? All globe arguments going out the window.



1h16m40s if it doesnt link to the exact spot.

Same effect on Pontchartrain, theres no curve, its just a mirage with the mirror effect/distance/camera height that produces that effect where it looks like its curving, and something going further (like this guy on the bike, think boats on horizon, same thing) disappears into the mirage creating the going over the horizon(curve) optical illusion. Doesn't mean its curved because the illusion makes it appear that way, it just means it's hidden behind the atmosphere effect of the mirage, as proven when he lifts the height of the camera slightly and the mirage effects goes away slowly, and the biker reappears. Why? Because it's just a mirage, hes not really going over a "horizon".

Goto 1h18m30s in the video where he moves the camera up slightly and watch the biker reappear behind the mirage. Same effect you see when a boat goes "over the horizon/curve" but its just hidden by mirage/refraction/distance.
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More zoomed in as in your shitty video - where is the fading? Oh and explain why the photo shows only the upper half of the sun.

fesszoom
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Nice photo with 0 context

I can do the same thing by laying the lense close to the ground, bringing the horizon higher
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

That the camera is far above the beach is quite obvious when looking at the sea in front of the sun. Laying the lens close to the ground won't give you a half sun, you would have to dig a hole into the ground to get a half sun. (Yep, I know the shitty videos that try to explain the sun setting behind the horizon by using a coin and a camera slightly below a table).


Can you post the original photo? Why do you always post this cropped shit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75162415

Did you ever hear that it is possible to mount a camera to a telescope? Just because your shitty video can't zoom in this much does not mean that others can't too. So what's your point.

Just another fail from a pathetic loser who can't explain the sun setting behind the horizon.
 Quoting: Hydra

No original photo? Gotcha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73252656

Original photo? See above. So what's your point, loser?

Btw.: What would be the difference between a cropped and an uncropped photo? Pray tell, loser.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Still won’t post original photo. Getting called a loser from a satanist is almost one of the better complements one can receive
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fesszoom



1m40s to show how the Sun sets, and produces the same effect since Hydra is so caught up on this picture. How's it feel to still be wrong, dumb shit?
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

It's the same shit as the video with the coin and the camera below the table. Put the camera in the optical path (centre of the Fresnel lens) and repeat the experiment.

Also show the maths that the atmosphere bends the image of the sun more the 20° at sunset by applying the proven refraction index of around 1.0003.

And explain how the sunset times are calculated to the second in advance though atmospheric conditions like temperature or air pressure change on a daily and hourly base.



And didn't you say just three days ago that refraction can not be so intense that it lifts a mountain above the horizon, but now you say that refraction is so intense that it bend down the sun 20° below the horizon. And what about the "fading away" thing all the other flattards are talking about?

How about you flattards make up your mind first and then start to discuss your bullshit?

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Take a walk to Louisiana



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Watch and weap, feeling flat yet? All globe arguments going out the window.



1h16m40s if it doesnt link to the exact spot.

Same effect on Pontchartrain, theres no curve, its just a mirage with the mirror effect/distance/camera height that produces that effect where it looks like its curving, and something going further (like this guy on the bike, think boats on horizon, same thing) disappears into the mirage creating the going over the horizon(curve) optical illusion. Doesn't mean its curved because the illusion makes it appear that way, it just means it's hidden behind the atmosphere effect of the mirage, as proven when he lifts the height of the camera slightly and the mirage effects goes away slowly, and the biker reappears. Why? Because it's just a mirage, hes not really going over a "horizon".

Goto 1h18m30s in the video where he moves the camera up slightly and watch the biker reappear behind the mirage. Same effect you see when a boat goes "over the horizon/curve" but its just hidden by mirage/refraction/distance.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Where is the mirage in the video below?




And isn't your "debunk" video from the same guy who is the star in the video below, who just proved the curve?




And I'm still waiting for your proof that atmospheric refraction don't apply to near infrared light as you claimed some days ago.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Still won’t post original photo. Getting called a loser from a satanist is almost one of the better complements one can receive
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Prove that it's not the original photo.

And again: What would be the difference between a cropped and an uncropped photo? Pray tell, loser.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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fesszoom

Prove that it's not the original photo.

And again: What would be the difference between a cropped and an uncropped photo? Pray tell, loser.
 Quoting: Hydra


Your arguing over nothing, it makes no difference and you know it makes no difference. There is nothing to prove. Again, already showed you how it produces that effect.


1m40s

"And I'm still waiting for your proof that atmospheric refraction don't apply to near infrared light as you claimed some days ago."
 Quoting: Hydra


No one said that at all, all I said was infrared allows us to see further past some layers to get us a CLEARER image

The proof is on you, linking optical illusions that are EASILY disproved, but backed by Mainstream. We all know how much mainstream lies, so lets just cut the bullshit. If you haven't comprehended fake news and how it works, you're still on level 1.

If it applies or not doesn't matter, that is not the point, the point is, YOU SEE TOO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS FLAT, NOT BECAUSE YOUR VIEW BENDS OVER A CURVE TO SEE OBJECTS BEHIND the horizon. If it applied to infrared, it still wouldn't not matter, because WE SEE THE MOUNTAINS WHEN WE SHOULD NOT be able to. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE THERE ON A CURVE. The point of infrared, like other optics is to go past visual layers of atmosphere or highlight certain objects based on temperature

For others who missed that video its this one.


11m37s

Where is the mirage in the video below?


 Quoting: Hydra


It's right here, [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] , but you will see a curve, because you want to and are easily fooled by optical illusions, as shown in the video right above. Linking more mirages and .."explain this one"...and "this one" doesn't matter. It's a mirage, the videos explains clearly what mirages are and how they behave.


52m57s

You can see that here with what looks like stacked mirages clearly defined by the mirror effect, if its curved, you would not have 2 mirages...you would just have 1 mirage, and then just sky.

But here we have another boat on the left thats further, and we see the same mirror effect on top of the center boats mirage. That shows depth (distance), and disproves what most "globers" believe as looming (where the image moves up over the horizon (what you, and other people claim the mountains are doing to show over the horizon, thats literally insane).


1h16m40s-1h18m55s

I'm linking this video to show you, so you can understand what your seeing in your video where the bridge gets smaller (distance) and appears to curve into the horizon.

The Bridge (in your video) gets smaller, as the mirage from the bottom eats up the image, so the object shrinks from 2 locations, from top to bottom(object getting smaller, moving further), and bottom to top (mirage/refraction). When the object gets too small it dissipates behind the mirage, if you were to bring the camera up even slightly, you would see the object to slowly start to appear again.

It is just distance and perspective because as an object goes further away...it shrinks to the point we cant see, or in our case with the cameras, when zoomed in the mirage effect (optical illusion) creates that curve, but its not curving, the bridge is just getting smaller because of distance and appears to curve because of the mirage effect. So you have the object getting smaller, while the mirage produces the mirror effect and looks like the object goes into itself on the horizon line.
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And isn't your "debunk" video from the same guy who is the star in the video below, who just proved the curve?



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I will watch that whole video (not the 50s one) to grab the entire context, because what was said in the video literally made no sense. I will reserve judgment on it till I see all of it because I don't make up my mind on a 1 minute video.
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Let's hear you...
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Oops.

cruise
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That's not you?
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

No, it's made by one of your own ilk, henhouse dweller.

cruise

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Not one of my own..... absolutely nothing to do with me...... familiar pattern here.
False attachment is not credible, put away the snake oil.

Simple really I asked anyone to come on live, "let's hear you...." was not a request for one of your selected videos of fuck all. Then pathetically attempted attaching it to "my own" when I am particular that I am accountable for only me.
You are aware of this.

Aware of it so much so that you need to misconstrue conversations that have absolutely fuck all to do with you and link it to something I said months ago to try to control dialogue.
Come on live Hyder, let's hear you being intellectually honest..... or hide behind your keyboard and selected copy/pastes and videos.

Fuck you.
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fesszoom

Prove that it's not the original photo.

And again: What would be the difference between a cropped and an uncropped photo? Pray tell, loser.
 Quoting: Hydra

Your arguing over nothing, it makes no difference and you know it makes no difference. There is nothing to prove. Again, already showed you how it produces that effect.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Oh look, Doctor Manhattan is a sock puppet of AC 50592849, or why did he feel the need to answer a post, I directed to AC 50592849?


 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

No comment on the 20° problem, no comment on the refraction index problem, no comment on the temperature and barometric pressure problem.
It seems, you don't have an answer to the problems.

Again:
It's the same shit as the video with the coin and the camera below the table. Put the camera in the optical path (centre of the Fresnel lens) and repeat the experiment.

Also show the maths that the atmosphere bends the image of the sun more the 20° at sunset by applying the proven refraction index of around 1.0003.

And explain how the sunset times are calculated to the second in advance though atmospheric conditions like temperature or air pressure change on a daily and hourly base.


"And I'm still waiting for your proof that atmospheric refraction don't apply to near infrared light as you claimed some days ago."
 Quoting: Hydra

No one said that at all, all I said was infrared allows us to see further past some layers to get us a CLEARER image
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Oh look, we have a lying piece of shit here:
... Refraction means nothing in the infrared video which is the point i was trying to make. ...
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan



The proof is on you, linking optical illusions that are EASILY disproved, but backed by Mainstream. We all know how much mainstream lies, so lets just cut the bullshit. If you haven't comprehended fake news and how it works, you're still on level 1.

If it applies or not doesn't matter, that is not the point, the point is, YOU SEE TOO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS FLAT, NOT BECAUSE YOUR VIEW BENDS OVER A CURVE TO SEE OBJECTS BEHIND the horizon. If it applied to infrared, it still wouldn't not matter, because WE SEE THE MOUNTAINS WHEN WE SHOULD NOT be able to. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE THERE ON A CURVE. The point of infrared, like other optics is to go past visual layers of atmosphere or highlight certain objects based on temperature

For others who missed that video its this one.
] [link to youtu.be (secure)] 11m37s
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

I already proved your bullshit video wrong:
As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

The drop in the refraction index in the visible range of light is just 0.01 per mille: 1.000299 at 400 nm and 1.000291 at 800 nm. [link to aty.sdsu.edu (secure)]
If you claim that the drop is significant higher in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.

Btw.: The camera was not at ground level but at 60 meters (197 feet), a big difference in what you see and what you don't see.

And again: If you claim that refraction does not apply in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.

We see exactly what we should see given the distance, the observer height and the target height, regardless of visible light or near infrared.
 Quoting: Hydra

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)
 Quoting: Hydra



Where is the mirage in the video below?
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Hydra

It's right here, [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] , but you will see a curve, because you want to and are easily fooled by optical illusions, as shown in the video right above. Linking more mirages and .."explain this one"...and "this one" doesn't matter. It's a mirage, the videos explains clearly what mirages are and how they behave.

[link to youtu.be (secure)] 52m57s
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So this below is the mirage from your video above at 52:57

femirage1

And this is the "mirage" from my video (00:54).

femirage2

Yep, the second image with the bribge is really a super-mirage. //sarc - Did you insert the three lines in your image to obfuscate that there is no mirage?

The curve is right there in the image above, but you will see a mirage, because you want to and are easily fooled by RubeTube videos, as shown right in the videos you posted.

You should join the tards who see men, reptiles or rodents in moon and mars images. You would be an enrichment for these tards with your imagination.


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Oops.

cruise
 Quoting: Hydra

That's not you?
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

No, it's made by one of your own ilk, henhouse dweller.

cruise
 Quoting: Hydra

Not one of my own..... absolutely nothing to do with me...... familiar pattern here.
False attachment is not credible, put away the snake oil.

Simple really I asked anyone to come on live, "let's hear you...." was not a request for one of your selected videos of fuck all. Then pathetically attempted attaching it to "my own" when I am particular that I am accountable for only me.
You are aware of this.

Aware of it so much so that you need to misconstrue conversations that have absolutely fuck all to do with you and link it to something I said months ago to try to control dialogue.
Come on live Hyder, let's hear you being intellectually honest..... or hide behind your keyboard and selected copy/pastes and videos.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

I know that you are special.
But honestly, why should I debate a flattard who don't know how the flat earth looks, who has no flat earth model, but claims that earth is flaaaaaaat.


Fuck you.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Oh, the henhouse dweller got butthurt.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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That's not you?
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

No, it's made by one of your own ilk, henhouse dweller.

cruise
 Quoting: Hydra

Not one of my own..... absolutely nothing to do with me...... familiar pattern here.
False attachment is not credible, put away the snake oil.

Simple really I asked anyone to come on live, "let's hear you...." was not a request for one of your selected videos of fuck all. Then pathetically attempted attaching it to "my own" when I am particular that I am accountable for only me.
You are aware of this.

Aware of it so much so that you need to misconstrue conversations that have absolutely fuck all to do with you and link it to something I said months ago to try to control dialogue.
Come on live Hyder, let's hear you being intellectually honest..... or hide behind your keyboard and selected copy/pastes and videos.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

I know that you are special.
But honestly, why should I debate a flattard who don't know how the flat earth looks, who has no flat earth model, but claims that earth is flaaaaaaat.


Fuck you.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Oh, the henhouse dweller got butthurt.

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 Quoting: Hydra


I do not need a debate. Direct reality is not up for debate, it is what is. I've never claimed the earth is flat and I'm sorry to disappoint you but having a model does not make it reality.

Again you acknowledge nothing I wrote and continue to do the exact same thing. Ignore points raised and control the narrative to unrelated nonsense you think gives you some upper hand.
Running round in circles talking utter nonsense is not credible.
Like a pigeon shitting on a chess board and proclaiming victory you have no clue to the game you are trying to play.....you
are desperate and sound like a fool.
Obsessed.

Fuck you.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
fesszoom

Prove that it's not the original photo.

And again: What would be the difference between a cropped and an uncropped photo? Pray tell, loser.
 Quoting: Hydra

Your arguing over nothing, it makes no difference and you know it makes no difference. There is nothing to prove. Again, already showed you how it produces that effect.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Oh look, Doctor Manhattan is a sock puppet of AC 50592849, or why did he feel the need to answer a post, I directed to AC 50592849?


 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

No comment on the 20° problem, no comment on the refraction index problem, no comment on the temperature and barometric pressure problem.
It seems, you don't have an answer to the problems.

Again:
It's the same shit as the video with the coin and the camera below the table. Put the camera in the optical path (centre of the Fresnel lens) and repeat the experiment.

Also show the maths that the atmosphere bends the image of the sun more the 20° at sunset by applying the proven refraction index of around 1.0003.

And explain how the sunset times are calculated to the second in advance though atmospheric conditions like temperature or air pressure change on a daily and hourly base.


"And I'm still waiting for your proof that atmospheric refraction don't apply to near infrared light as you claimed some days ago."
 Quoting: Hydra

No one said that at all, all I said was infrared allows us to see further past some layers to get us a CLEARER image
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Oh look, we have a lying piece of shit here:
... Refraction means nothing in the infrared video which is the point i was trying to make. ...
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan



The proof is on you, linking optical illusions that are EASILY disproved, but backed by Mainstream. We all know how much mainstream lies, so lets just cut the bullshit. If you haven't comprehended fake news and how it works, you're still on level 1.

If it applies or not doesn't matter, that is not the point, the point is, YOU SEE TOO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS FLAT, NOT BECAUSE YOUR VIEW BENDS OVER A CURVE TO SEE OBJECTS BEHIND the horizon. If it applied to infrared, it still wouldn't not matter, because WE SEE THE MOUNTAINS WHEN WE SHOULD NOT be able to. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE THERE ON A CURVE. The point of infrared, like other optics is to go past visual layers of atmosphere or highlight certain objects based on temperature

For others who missed that video its this one.
] [link to youtu.be (secure)] 11m37s
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

I already proved your bullshit video wrong:
As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

The drop in the refraction index in the visible range of light is just 0.01 per mille: 1.000299 at 400 nm and 1.000291 at 800 nm. [link to aty.sdsu.edu (secure)]
If you claim that the drop is significant higher in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.

Btw.: The camera was not at ground level but at 60 meters (197 feet), a big difference in what you see and what you don't see.

And again: If you claim that refraction does not apply in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.

We see exactly what we should see given the distance, the observer height and the target height, regardless of visible light or near infrared.
 Quoting: Hydra

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)
 Quoting: Hydra



Where is the mirage in the video below?
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Hydra

It's right here, [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] , but you will see a curve, because you want to and are easily fooled by optical illusions, as shown in the video right above. Linking more mirages and .."explain this one"...and "this one" doesn't matter. It's a mirage, the videos explains clearly what mirages are and how they behave.

[link to youtu.be (secure)] 52m57s
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So this below is the mirage from your video above at 52:57

femirage1

And this is the "mirage" from my video (00:54).

femirage2

Yep, the second image with the bribge is really a super-mirage. //sarc - Did you insert the three lines in your image to obfuscate that there is no mirage?

The curve is right there in the image above, but you will see a mirage, because you want to and are easily fooled by RubeTube videos, as shown right in the videos you posted.

You should join the tards who see men, reptiles or rodents in moon and mars images. You would be an enrichment for these tards with your imagination.


.
 Quoting: Hydra


The mirror effect is there, theres no point in arguing with someone who doesn't have all there senses in tact. Enjoy your dissonance moron you'll fit in well. Nice try on the reptiles bro, I only believe in shit I can see.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
fesszoom

Prove that it's not the original photo.

And again: What would be the difference between a cropped and an uncropped photo? Pray tell, loser.
 Quoting: Hydra

Your arguing over nothing, it makes no difference and you know it makes no difference. There is nothing to prove. Again, already showed you how it produces that effect.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Oh look, Doctor Manhattan is a sock puppet of AC 50592849, or why did he feel the need to answer a post, I directed to AC 50592849?


 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

No comment on the 20° problem, no comment on the refraction index problem, no comment on the temperature and barometric pressure problem.
It seems, you don't have an answer to the problems.

Again:
It's the same shit as the video with the coin and the camera below the table. Put the camera in the optical path (centre of the Fresnel lens) and repeat the experiment.

Also show the maths that the atmosphere bends the image of the sun more the 20° at sunset by applying the proven refraction index of around 1.0003.

And explain how the sunset times are calculated to the second in advance though atmospheric conditions like temperature or air pressure change on a daily and hourly base.


"And I'm still waiting for your proof that atmospheric refraction don't apply to near infrared light as you claimed some days ago."
 Quoting: Hydra

No one said that at all, all I said was infrared allows us to see further past some layers to get us a CLEARER image
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Oh look, we have a lying piece of shit here:
... Refraction means nothing in the infrared video which is the point i was trying to make. ...
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan



The proof is on you, linking optical illusions that are EASILY disproved, but backed by Mainstream. We all know how much mainstream lies, so lets just cut the bullshit. If you haven't comprehended fake news and how it works, you're still on level 1.

If it applies or not doesn't matter, that is not the point, the point is, YOU SEE TOO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS FLAT, NOT BECAUSE YOUR VIEW BENDS OVER A CURVE TO SEE OBJECTS BEHIND the horizon. If it applied to infrared, it still wouldn't not matter, because WE SEE THE MOUNTAINS WHEN WE SHOULD NOT be able to. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE THERE ON A CURVE. The point of infrared, like other optics is to go past visual layers of atmosphere or highlight certain objects based on temperature

For others who missed that video its this one.
] [link to youtu.be (secure)] 11m37s
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

I already proved your bullshit video wrong:
As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

The drop in the refraction index in the visible range of light is just 0.01 per mille: 1.000299 at 400 nm and 1.000291 at 800 nm. [link to aty.sdsu.edu (secure)]
If you claim that the drop is significant higher in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.

Btw.: The camera was not at ground level but at 60 meters (197 feet), a big difference in what you see and what you don't see.

And again: If you claim that refraction does not apply in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.

We see exactly what we should see given the distance, the observer height and the target height, regardless of visible light or near infrared.
 Quoting: Hydra

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)
 Quoting: Hydra



Where is the mirage in the video below?
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Hydra

It's right here, [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] , but you will see a curve, because you want to and are easily fooled by optical illusions, as shown in the video right above. Linking more mirages and .."explain this one"...and "this one" doesn't matter. It's a mirage, the videos explains clearly what mirages are and how they behave.

[link to youtu.be (secure)] 52m57s
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So this below is the mirage from your video above at 52:57

femirage1

And this is the "mirage" from my video (00:54).

femirage2

Yep, the second image with the bribge is really a super-mirage. //sarc - Did you insert the three lines in your image to obfuscate that there is no mirage?

The curve is right there in the image above, but you will see a mirage, because you want to and are easily fooled by RubeTube videos, as shown right in the videos you posted.

You should join the tards who see men, reptiles or rodents in moon and mars images. You would be an enrichment for these tards with your imagination.


.
 Quoting: Hydra


The mirror effect is there, theres no point in arguing with someone who doesn't have all there senses in tact. Enjoy your dissonance moron you'll fit in well. Nice try on the reptiles bro, I only believe in shit I can see.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan


Well you can plainly see curvature in those photos. :) Have a nice day!
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Astromut and hiz buddies are just White Nationalist racists...the world is flat.

There is so much evidence out there. Take your globalist racist views and get fucked.

Dont be uncle Tom'd by these scammers just to share their stolen spoils.

Round earth and slavery are whitey trying to be boss over others.

Dont tolerate it! Ever!
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Tesla. Eisenstein trump says the earth is flat, I’ll go with the geniuses
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Again you acknowledge nothing I wrote and continue to do the exact same thing.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Oh, I acknowledge what you wrote.

You wrote that Water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Again: Prove it - Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


Fuck you.
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LOL, henhouse dweller got butthurt again.


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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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