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jesus never spoke about gays

 
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“ Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.

21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew* you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
[Matthew 7]


They exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.
[Romans 1:25]
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Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’

and it is to him alone you must render sacred service:

Or “and you must serve only him.”
The Greek verb latreuo basically means serving, but since it is used in the Christian Greek Scriptures in reference to serving or worshipping God, it can appropriately be translated “to render sacred service; to serve; to worship.”
(Lu 1:74; 2:37; 4:8; Ac 7:7; Ro 1:9; Php 3:3; 2Ti 1:3; Heb 9:14; 12:28; Re 7:15; 22:3)

At De 6:13, the verse Jesus quoted, the Hebrew word rendered “serve” is avadh.
It also means “to serve” but may likewise be rendered “to worship.” (Ex 3:12; ftn.; 2Sa 15:8, ftn.) Jesus was determined to render Jehovah exclusive devotion.
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Vhat ? Not even on Her Majesty [King James'] Sacred Service ?!?
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i wonder why.?
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WRONG!!!
Jesus said it is an abomination unto death for a man to lay with another man or woman to lay with another woman!!
Abomination UNTO death!!
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"Jesus never said anything! Prove me wrong! Hint: words on paper are not proof of speech."


Jehovah God/The Son-Christ/Holy Spirit

DON'T NEED "paper"! ( ; )

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people,

who suppress the truth by their wickedness,

19 since what may be known about God IS PLAIN TO THEM, because God has made it plain to them.

20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—HIS ETERNAL POWER AND DIVINE NATURE

HAVE BEEN CLEARLY SEEN,

being understood from what has been made,


SO THAT PEOPLE ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE.


21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22 Although they CLAIMED TO BE WISE,

they became fools

23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.


24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,

and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.


26 BECAUSE OF THIS,

GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO SHAMEFUL LUSTS.

Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.

27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women

AND WERE INFLAMED WITH LUST FOR ONE ANOTHER.

Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God,

SO GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A DEPRAVED MIND,


so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity.

They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Jesus came as the INNOCENT LAMB, told the woman caught

in adultery, SHE WAS FORGIVEN- but to "sin no more"...

and to the MEN who stood in judgement... he drew on the

dirt...and said "whoever is without sin cast the first

stone-to kill the woman...ALL the MEN left...

We are NO LONGER under the "OLD TESTAMENT" LAWS BUT...

Jehovah God doesn't change.

The "NEW TESTAMENT" went into effect

"upon the death of the TESTATOR"-Jesus the Anointed Son.

Hebrews 9:16
For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the DEATH OF THE TESTATOR.


Hebrews 9:17
For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all

WHILE THE TESTATOR LIVITH.

Jesus is NOT coming back as the INNOCENT LAMB.!!!


HE is coming back as the King of Kings...and

the Words he speaks ...


Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Revelation 2:16
Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.



Revelation 19:15
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword,

that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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“ Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.

21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew* you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
[Matthew 7]


They exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.
[Romans 1:25]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77722036


Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’

and it is to him alone you must render sacred service:

Or “and you must serve only him.”
The Greek verb latreuo basically means serving, but since it is used in the Christian Greek Scriptures in reference to serving or worshipping God, it can appropriately be translated “to render sacred service; to serve; to worship.”
(Lu 1:74; 2:37; 4:8; Ac 7:7; Ro 1:9; Php 3:3; 2Ti 1:3; Heb 9:14; 12:28; Re 7:15; 22:3)

At De 6:13, the verse Jesus quoted, the Hebrew word rendered “serve” is avadh.
It also means “to serve” but may likewise be rendered “to worship.” (Ex 3:12; ftn.; 2Sa 15:8, ftn.) Jesus was determined to render Jehovah exclusive devotion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77722036


Vhat ? Not even on Her Majesty [King James'] Sacred Service ?!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77722036


Yep, dot's rite --

They exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.
26 That is why God gave them over to disgraceful sexual passion,+ for their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature;
27 likewise also the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full penalty, which was due for their error.

28 Just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God,* God gave them over to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting
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Re: jesus never spoke about gays
i wonder why.?
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They were to busy rooting goats and camels back then.

Still do don't they ?
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i wonder why.?
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They were to busy rooting goats and camels back then.

Still do don't they ?
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No, they marry to the presbyopi-inn .
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but jesus didnt say that,man said that.
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He continuously quoted the OT
He stated keep the commandments
He continuously said seek the Father

There are many things that he did not state but always referencing the OT

Man tried to manipulate scripture

We are called to live in spirit not flesh. Wether straight, gay, bi, drinkers, liar, pedo, smoker, on and on. That’s not living in spirit. Thank the good Lord for the gift of salvation because in this hell world, not many if any walk in spirit. We are meat sacks satisfying our flesh. .
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He also contradicted the OT several times.
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Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman. No other sexual relationship is permitted. It is immoral.

Matthew 19
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
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hesright

He also said about forgiveness, think of Jesus meeting the women at the well, she had many Husbands and the guy she’s was currently with was not her husband, but he forgave her. Also The priests from the temple bought a women found in adultery, due to be stoned, Jesus said, those without sin cast the first stone!

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Aside of Jesus speaking about a mental disorder.
Just imagine evolution with only a bunch of gays and lesbians......
Never heard some one got pregnant by fucking in the ass or pussy grinding against each other.
Like pedofila and other LGBTQ people, all faults and freaks of nature. Deal with it
And the fucked up part is, a elite agenda to control the mass by propaganda making it look normal.
Drags in front of the class of your toddler. TV series, movies and prides all to brainwash you to think it's normal.
It's not. Periode. It's a DNA break down. And I wish all real and fake brainwashed gays die a horrible death in sickness of aids or even worse. What? Struck a nerve? Go fuck your self.
I hope all gays and lesbians and LGBTQ people commit suicide and end themselves.
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It's clear we are to love even our enemies and being homosexual does not necessarily make one even an enemy.

If you think he would have shown them hate, I don't think you understand what he was about.
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It's clear we are to love even our enemies and being homosexual does not necessarily make one even an enemy.

If you think he would have shown them hate, I don't think you understand what he was about.
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Loving your neighbor as yourself means you don't lie to them.

“ Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.

21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’

23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew* you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
[Matthew 7]
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He did, he said A man. Thats ghey
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Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman. No other sexual relationship is permitted. It is immoral.

Matthew 19
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


So, you believe that we needed the Messiah to teach us all
that men and women get married?

People didn't know that men and women get married...

Jesus must have worn a Captain Obvious cap.

Rather than that, I prefer to think that Jesus was pointing
to the joining of opposites, which is a harmonious union -not
a conflict of opposites.

The union creates a third person, not two individuals living
under one roof.
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Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman. No other sexual relationship is permitted. It is immoral.

Matthew 19
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


So, you believe that we needed the Messiah to teach us all
that men and women get married?

People didn't know that men and women get married...

Jesus must have worn a Captain Obvious cap.

Rather than that, I prefer to think that Jesus was pointing
to the joining of opposites, which is a harmonious union -not
a conflict of opposites.

The union creates a third person, not two individuals living
under one roof.
 Quoting: tamarack 77484958



"So, you believe that we needed the Messiah to teach us all
that men and women get married?"

It appears we needed the Messiah to teach us this:

The ‘Sacred Secret of Godly Devotion.’

The prime example of godly devotion is Jesus Christ. The apostle Paul wrote to Timothy: “Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’” (1Ti 3:16)

Adam, the perfect man, had not set the perfect example of godly devotion.
None of his children, born imperfect, could do so.
Who would be able to do this?
The coming of God’s Son to earth and his integrity-keeping course gave the answer, revealing the solution to the sacred secret.

He is the one to whom Timothy should look for the perfect example of conduct manifesting godly devotion.—1Ti 3:15.

Jesus Christ was the one man to manifest godly devotion perfectly, in every sense, proving that man in the flesh can maintain such devotion.

Under severe trials, right down to the end of his earthly course Jesus was “loyal, guileless, undefiled, separated from the sinners.” (Heb 7:26)

No flaw could be found in his integrity, to accuse him before God.

He said, before his death: “I have conquered the world,”

also, “The ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me.” (Joh 16:33; 14:30)

No unrighteousness could be found in him. He could rightly say to his enemies: “Who of you convicts me of sin?” (Joh 8:46)

The solution to “the sacred secret of this godly devotion” is so great and means so much to mankind that it is to be proclaimed worldwide.

Jesus Christ himself is the basis upon which Christian godly devotion and conduct in the congregation are patterned.
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Why didn't Jesus play the Lute and leave us some great songs, like John Lennon?
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No Joko/Yoko ?

Not one yodh/ jodh/ jot / iota or tittle shall pass away before.....
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bump
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Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman. No other sexual relationship is permitted. It is immoral.

Matthew 19
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
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hesright

He also said about forgiveness, think of Jesus meeting the women at the well, she had many Husbands and the guy she’s was currently with was not her husband, but he forgave her. Also The priests from the temple bought a women found in adultery, due to be stoned, Jesus said, those without sin cast the first stone!
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He also told her to stop sinning.
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It's clear we are to love even our enemies and being homosexual does not necessarily make one even an enemy.

If you think he would have shown them hate, I don't think you understand what he was about.
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Jesus would not have shown them hate but he would have expected them to give up their sinful ways just like other people had to do.
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Yet He affirmed the Old Testament as the Word of God. The Old Testament says homosexual behavior is an ABOMINATION to God.
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Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman. No other sexual relationship is permitted. It is immoral.

Matthew 19
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


So, you believe that we needed the Messiah to teach us all
that men and women get married?

People didn't know that men and women get married...

Jesus must have worn a Captain Obvious cap.

Rather than that, I prefer to think that Jesus was pointing
to the joining of opposites, which is a harmonious union -not
a conflict of opposites.

The union creates a third person, not two individuals living
under one roof.
 Quoting: tamarack 77484958


God created Adam and Eve and joined them in marriage. Jesus was reiterating that. No men or women as to be married to each other. And no one is supposed to be having sex without being married.

And yes Jesus has to spell it out for people because some just don’t get it without it being spoon fed to them.
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Jesus said marriage is between a man and a woman. No other sexual relationship is permitted. It is immoral.

Matthew 19
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


hesright

He also said about forgiveness, think of Jesus meeting the women at the well, she had many Husbands and the guy she’s was currently with was not her husband, but he forgave her. Also The priests from the temple bought a women found in adultery, due to be stoned, Jesus said, those without sin cast the first stone!
 Quoting: Jelly


He also told her to stop sinning.
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Btw that was the latter woman. For the first he shocked her by saying she was living with a man she wasn’t married to. He didn’t condone that. And she knew it. Everyone knew living with someone you weren’t married to was wrong. But of course they still did it. To follow him she would have had to correct that. She was sure to spread the news of what he told her.
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Yet He affirmed the Old Testament as the Word of God. The Old Testament says homosexual behavior is an ABOMINATION to God.
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Yup. He fulfilled the law and homosexuality being a sin was in that law.
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It also called falsehood..

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles [Zionist Deep State, Royal and Elites] be gathered together. - Luke 17:34-37



"And then the lawless one [G H.W "Nebuchadnezzar" Bush] will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming [as the great Anti-Christ]. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how [Zionist Deep State] Satan works . He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders [fake news media] that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." - Thessalonians 2:8-12


"Outside are dogs [mankind's without soul] and drug users, and warmongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and everyone who loves to lie and practices falsehood [Zionism unrighteousness evil deeds included homosexuals and transgenders].

I Jesus sent mine angel to testify to these parts. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star." - Revelation 22:15-16 Vulgate Bible
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God had already laid down the law for that kind of thing with Sodom and Gomorrah. Everybody knew the story and the price for such behavior. Not much to more to expound upon.
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i wonder why.?
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Yes, by all means, trust the poster whose icon is flipping you off. That works.
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That boy big mark..but no mark
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i wonder why.?
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Same old Shit always pumped by poop-eaters. See what I did I there?

Anyways. Jesus is God, junior. And God had plenty to say against gaaayeees. I think it was made clear with the example of Sodom and Gomorrah.


If you’ve seen the Son, then you have seen the Father. Jesus’s other name means God with us. Gospel of John chapter 1 makes it pretty clear as well.


So I suggest studying your Bible before asking such a lame question. Your bait was dead on arrival.
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if jesus considered heterosexual prostitution a sin, then he definitely homosexuality a sin.
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oh my little ignorant wicked op.

 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.In him was life; and the life was the light of men.And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 1:1-5

The same John who you accept as accurately not recording Jesus saying anything about sodomites says that the entire weird of God was manifested.in the flesh as Jesus Christ. Jesus is the author of the entire Bible. so yes Jesus spoke plenty against your pet wickedness.


Sorry OP cant have it both ways. pun intended.
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oh my little ignorant wicked op.

 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.In him was life; and the life was the light of men.And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 1:1-5

The same John who you accept as accurately not recording Jesus saying anything about sodomites says that the entire word of God was manifested.in the flesh as Jesus Christ. Jesus is the author of the entire Bible. so yes Jesus spoke plenty against your pet wickedness.


Sorry OP cant have it both ways. pun intended.





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