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Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened

 
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CBS News has learned that the morning of Jeffrey Epstein's death there was shouting and shrieking from his jail cell.

Guards attempted to revive him while saying "breathe, Epstein, breathe."

CBS News has learned that Epstein's estranged brother Mark was called and he identified Epstein's body.

The New York City Medical Examiner's office has performed an autopsy, but the results are still pending.

In an interview with our West Palm Beach affiliate WPEC, a former Florida corrections worker said Epstein was "treated like a celebrity" during his 13-month stint in a county jail after he pleaded guilty in 2008 to charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution.

She claims his cell was regularly left unlocked and she saw him move freely through the dormitory area – sometimes completely naked – without repercussions.




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hes not dead so the shrieking must have been the guy they trying to pass off as Epstein

think about it the dead person in the photo looks nothing like Epstein

Epstein has enough money to be able to pay people off, guards, judges, to help fake his death

or they have him in witness protection





The first so called attempt was staged to set up the final staged suicide

Epstein is either free some where

or in witness protection

either way that fuck isnt dead, count on it
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That theory can’t be dismissed in this case

The comedy of errors sure points to something

Wonder if Baden, who Epstein's reps hired, will find a different COD
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”Killer cop’ inmate says he heard nothing on morning of Jeffrey Epstein’s death


An inmate in the same unit where Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself heard nothing the morning of his death — but “knows a heck of a lot about what went on,” his lawyer said in a new report.


“Nobody heard anything. It was a silent act,” his lawyer Bruce Barket told NBC News.


“Nick knows a heck of a lot about what went on,” the lawyer claimed to NBC. “He was there during the first attempt and he was there when he actually killed himself — he just wasn’t in the same cell.”




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Somebody wants a reduced sentence.....

If he actually knows something, perhaps they should deal.
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killcame
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Thanks for the pin Scrump......


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hugs

Regular hanging kills by breaking the neck, generally... but I thought the purpose of hanging without a drop was to cut off your breath.

Who knew that you could scream without breathing?

It's a miracle!

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My Dad hung himself from a tree using thick rope.(He'd had a psychotic breakdown out of the blue a week prior). The rope snapped and he fell to the ground. We found out later he crawled to a neighbour's house with breathing issues while begging to die.

Ambulance came and he suffered cardiac arrest twice while in the vehicle. His trachea had been crushed, causing breathing difficulties which caused these. They tried to repair the damage in theatre but were unsuccessful. Hypoxia set in and he died from brain death the following day.

Just telling you this so people here are aware that hanging can go wrong and cause other issues...in other words, a person does not always automatically die.
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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
something a little fishy about the phrase used by the guards


'breathe esptein, breathe!'


as long as everyone around heard them saying 'breathe EPSTEIN' then everybody around can say 'i heard them trying to revive EPSTEIN'
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killcame
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Thanks for the pin Scrump......


hugs
 Quoting: ~kpm~



hugs

Regular hanging kills by breaking the neck, generally... but I thought the purpose of hanging without a drop was to cut off your breath.

Who knew that you could scream without breathing?

It's a miracle!

pope
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Yup! You are absolutely right
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Anyone who believes this load of hokum needs a solid shot of meth, that will push them far above their usual intellectual level.

And that's not saying much.
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We have a few scenarios with this case.....

He’s in witness protection

He was killed

He was allowed to kill himself, meaning they knew he was suicidal and did nothing to stop him


Personally, I don’t think he was suicidal, he beat the wrap one other time, he has the goods on very influential people and he’s a rich psychopathic narcissist.
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something a little fishy about the phrase used by the guards


'breathe esptein, breathe!'


as long as everyone around heard them saying 'breathe EPSTEIN' then everybody around can say 'i heard them trying to revive EPSTEIN'
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Right, that’s why they took him to the prison hospital first THEN called 911
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She claims his cell was regularly left unlocked and she saw him move freely through the dormitory area – sometimes completely naked




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so even in jail he was a pervert

cruise
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Anyone who believes this load of hokum needs a solid shot of meth, that will push them far above their usual intellectual level.

And that's not saying much.
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I think very few people believe he killed himself
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She claims his cell was regularly left unlocked and she saw him move freely through the dormitory area – sometimes completely naked




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so even in jail he was a pervert

cruise
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IKR?

wtf


What inmate walks around naked, I guess the ones looking for a rendezvous with Bubba?


Omg no

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We have a few scenarios with this case.....

He’s in witness protection

He was killed

He was allowed to kill himself, meaning they knew he was suicidal and did nothing to stop him


Personally, I don’t think he was suicidal, he beat the wrap one other time, he has the goods on very influential people and he’s a rich psychopathic narcissist.
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Dr. Steve Pieczenik said Epstein was a narcissist and
no way he committed suicide. They don't do that.

Sounds right to me.

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We have a few scenarios with this case.....

He’s in witness protection

He was killed

He was allowed to kill himself, meaning they knew he was suicidal and did nothing to stop him


Personally, I don’t think he was suicidal, he beat the wrap one other time, he has the goods on very influential people and he’s a rich psychopathic narcissist.
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Dr. Steve Pieczenik said Epstein was a narcissist and
no way he committed suicide. They don't do that.

Sounds right to me.

bf23
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I don’t think he ever thought for a moment he wouldn’t skate from this.

He had way too much blackmail info to ensure he never spent any legit time behind bars

He just had to wait it out
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Now they're trying to amp up the story that he was KILLED IN PRISON because the SUICIDE STORY ain't selling.

They don't want people to think about WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, which is that he was TAKEN OUT OF THE PRISON.

The PROOF of that is the GURNEY PICTURE that they screwed up. If you zoom in, you can clearly see the MAN ON THE GURNEY ISN'T EPSTEIN. The nose, the ear CLEARLY DON'T MATCH - without a doubt - and other small details like the brow and hair as well.

So if the "DEAD" MAN ON THE GURNEY (PROBABLY A PHOTOSHOP) ISN'T EPSTEIN - WHERE IS HE? They only have to produce a fake when they DON'T HAVE THE REAL THING.

If they don't have a DEAD EPSTEIN....that means he was spirited away. HE'S NOT DEAD. Logically, there is NO OTHER CONCLUSION.

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The second half of the story is about the 2008 incarceration. CBS is trying to confuse everyone on purpose.
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Miami Herald’s Julie Brown Breaks Down Epstein’s Sexual Recruitment Network: ‘A Lot of People’ Made Money Off of This

“We know that there were a lot of people that made money off of this,” Brown said.

“He didn’t do this all by himself.

He had schedulers.

He had people that went out to certain areas to lure these girls.”




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Jeffrey Epstein, the mysterious money man and pedophile found dead in a federal prison cell early Saturday, gave a chilling interview a year before his death in which he called laws against men having sex with teen girls a “cultural aberration,” according to a prominent columnist.


“He said that criminalizing sex with teenage girls was a cultural aberration and that at times in history it was perfectly acceptable,” Stewart reported in the Times on Monday. 

“He pointed out that homosexuality had long been considered a crime and was still punishable by death in some parts of the world.”

Stewart also recalled that when he showed up at Epstein’s residence, he was greeted by a young girl with blond hair and an Eastern European accent.

“I can’t say how old she was, but my guess would be late teens or perhaps 20.

Given Mr. Epstein’s past, this struck me as far too close to the line,” he wrote.




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Epstein is the kind of piece of shit that should have been killed by an angry mob.
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Now they're trying to amp up the story that he was KILLED IN PRISON because the SUICIDE STORY ain't selling.

They don't want people to think about WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, which is that he was TAKEN OUT OF THE PRISON.

The PROOF of that is the GURNEY PICTURE that they screwed up. If you zoom in, you can clearly see the MAN ON THE GURNEY ISN'T EPSTEIN. The nose, the ear CLEARLY DON'T MATCH - without a doubt - and other small details like the brow and hair as well.

So if the "DEAD" MAN ON THE GURNEY (PROBABLY A PHOTOSHOP) ISN'T EPSTEIN - WHERE IS HE? They only have to produce a fake when they DON'T HAVE THE REAL THING.

If they don't have a DEAD EPSTEIN....that means he was spirited away. HE'S NOT DEAD. Logically, there is NO OTHER CONCLUSION.
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It certainly lends credence to the witness protection program

But if they are hiding him don’t you think the people he’s hiding from have ways to find him no matter what?

Or was he hidden to protect the the rich and famous, so he didn’t have to testify?
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Squeal like a pig boy!

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The second half of the story is about the 2008 incarceration. CBS is trying to confuse everyone on purpose.
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You are right. And why would they have to confuse everyone? Because it's a cover-up? And what are they covering up?

THAT EPSTEIN WAS GOT OUT OF THE PRISON - whether by White Hats or Black Hats, who knows. But he didn't die in that prison.
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Jeffrey Epstein, the mysterious money man and pedophile found dead in a federal prison cell early Saturday, gave a chilling interview a year before his death in which he called laws against men having sex with teen girls a “cultural aberration,” according to a prominent columnist.


“He said that criminalizing sex with teenage girls was a cultural aberration and that at times in history it was perfectly acceptable,” Stewart reported in the Times on Monday. 

“He pointed out that homosexuality had long been considered a crime and was still punishable by death in some parts of the world.”

Stewart also recalled that when he showed up at Epstein’s residence, he was greeted by a young girl with blond hair and an Eastern European accent.

“I can’t say how old she was, but my guess would be late teens or perhaps 20.

Given Mr. Epstein’s past, this struck me as far too close to the line,” he wrote.




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Epstein is the kind of piece of shit that should have been killed by an angry mob.
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Yet he walked free and people still associated with him, money and illicit sex is more important to the people who used Epstein as their pimp
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You sheeple love msm!!!!!!
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For anyone interested, here is Pieczenik's take:


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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
Why didn't he use his clothes instead of risking flimsy bed sheets?


Gurney
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You can’t hang yourself with paper sheets

Who changed that protocol
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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
Now they're trying to amp up the story that he was KILLED IN PRISON because the SUICIDE STORY ain't selling.

They don't want people to think about WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, which is that he was TAKEN OUT OF THE PRISON.

The PROOF of that is the GURNEY PICTURE that they screwed up. If you zoom in, you can clearly see the MAN ON THE GURNEY ISN'T EPSTEIN. The nose, the ear CLEARLY DON'T MATCH - without a doubt - and other small details like the brow and hair as well.

So if the "DEAD" MAN ON THE GURNEY (PROBABLY A PHOTOSHOP) ISN'T EPSTEIN - WHERE IS HE? They only have to produce a fake when they DON'T HAVE THE REAL THING.

If they don't have a DEAD EPSTEIN....that means he was spirited away. HE'S NOT DEAD. Logically, there is NO OTHER CONCLUSION.
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this is the only plausible scenario....he is alive, WITSEC, in exchange for all the goods given to white hats.
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
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Now they're trying to amp up the story that he was KILLED IN PRISON because the SUICIDE STORY ain't selling.

They don't want people to think about WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, which is that he was TAKEN OUT OF THE PRISON.

The PROOF of that is the GURNEY PICTURE that they screwed up. If you zoom in, you can clearly see the MAN ON THE GURNEY ISN'T EPSTEIN. The nose, the ear CLEARLY DON'T MATCH - without a doubt - and other small details like the brow and hair as well.

So if the "DEAD" MAN ON THE GURNEY (PROBABLY A PHOTOSHOP) ISN'T EPSTEIN - WHERE IS HE? They only have to produce a fake when they DON'T HAVE THE REAL THING.

If they don't have a DEAD EPSTEIN....that means he was spirited away. HE'S NOT DEAD. Logically, there is NO OTHER CONCLUSION.
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It certainly lends credence to the witness protection program

But if they are hiding him don’t you think the people he’s hiding from have ways to find him no matter what?

Or was he hidden to protect the the rich and famous, so he didn’t have to testify?
 Quoting: ~kpm~




Well, we can speculate - each of those ideas is a worthy angle.

I don't know if we can figure out who took him from the info we have - UNLESS it's true that his own attorneys requested he be taken off suicide watch. If that is the case, then it would seem that Epstein knew of and was cooperating with, an attempt to spring him.

What are the possibilities? Why would anyone spring him?

1. To save his ass because he's been such a good asset?

Unlikely in my opinion. There's no loyalty in those ranks, none at all. Murderous bunch of scumbags.

2. Because he has info they don't want to get out?

Possibly. But why not just kill him. They could have just quietly poisoned him or made it look like a heart attack. "They" do this shit all the time. Look at Breitbart. And yet GURNEY MAN proves he was not dead - not as shown to us.

So they needed to take him out alive.

3. Because they needed info or material that he would need to be alive to get?

MAYBE THIS IS WHY THE FBI IS RAIDING THE ISLAND TODAY. MAYBE THEY GOT THE INFO - MATERIAL, DEAD MAN'S SWITCH, WHATEVER - THEY NEEDED. HMMMMMMMMMM.

4. Because he paid someone to free him.

This is a distinct possibility and a man with his money and contacts probably could arrange such a thing. If El Chapo could, he could. If this is true, the next stop for him would be plastic surgery. Who knows, maybe he's with Ghislaine Maxwell in whatever location our great spies "can't find". Ho ho ho.


So there are several possibilities here, but you see....while our government can admit that an El Chapo might escape (in Mexico)....they can't admit that a Jeffrey Epstein might escape or be freed. (Which doesn't mean he's still alive today if they got what they wanted). Too much damage to the System, and there is NOTHING THE SYSTEM LIKES BETTER THAN A FINAL ENDING WITH SOMEONE DEAD. That's why the patsies usually end up dead. It's a clean ending to the narrative.

So they're desperate to have us think that one way or another, Epstein is DEAD. I don't think so.
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Why didn't he use his clothes instead of risking flimsy bed sheets?


Gurney
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You can’t hang yourself with paper sheets

Who changed that protocol
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Right

So he was in a normal cell, with a bunk bed and a cellmate until hours before he died

Normal cell, normal sheets and in clothes he could use as a noose?

His attorneys told the prison he was not suicidal and to take him off the watch after 6 days and the prison abided?

Why was his cell mate moved?

Did he tell people his cell mate tried to kill him and through investigates they promised were on going, they decided his story was legit, that he was attacked?
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Haven’t heard of a suicide that contemplated such a violent death, that got up that morning, ate, took time to brush their teeth,shave, comb your hair....and then.....poof...I think I’ll go hang mysekf.

Anhedonia doesn’t work that way





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