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Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened

 
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
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And why did they transfer him to the prison hospital first then call 911?

Why the delay if trying to save him, did they get a heartbeat going, they must have to still be doing CPR on him, right?
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something a little fishy about the phrase used by the guards


'breathe esptein, breathe!'


as long as everyone around heard them saying 'breathe EPSTEIN' then everybody around can say 'i heard them trying to revive EPSTEIN'
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stop resisting
sound familiar
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Why didn't he use his clothes instead of risking flimsy bed sheets?


Gurney
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You can’t hang yourself with paper sheets

Who changed that protocol
 Quoting: Bodi Doc


Right

So he was in a normal cell, with a bunk bed and a cellmate until hours before he died

Normal cell, normal sheets and in clothes he could use as a noose?

His attorneys told the prison he was not suicidal and to take him off the watch after 6 days and the prison abided?

Why was his cell mate moved?

Did he tell people his cell mate tried to kill him and through investigates they promised were on going, they decided his story was legit, that he was attacked?
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Only a DO or a MD can remove that suicide watch, or a judge, after medical determination, regardless of that prisoners attorneys plea

Who dunnit?
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc



The man on the gurney is NOT EPSTEIN. I cannot emphasize this enough. REPEATEDLY. If you examine profile pics of Epstein and Gurney Man - as was done in a thread here on GLP I can't find right now - it's obvious it's NOT THE SAME GUY.

This is NOT wishful thinking or imagination on my part. If you zoom the pic, you can see that the nose and ear DON'T MATCH. They just.....don't. There are other features like the brow and hair that look off too. As well as the "mask" mark around the face.

When you realize that Epstein was NOT dead on the gurney...then you have to ask....WHERE WAS HE? And why are they presenting a FAKE IMAGE TO US?

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How much more bizarre can this case get?
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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc



The man on the gurney is NOT EPSTEIN. I cannot emphasize this enough. REPEATEDLY. If you examine profile pics of Epstein and Gurney Man - as was done in a thread here on GLP I can't find right now - it's obvious it's NOT THE SAME GUY.

This is NOT wishful thinking or imagination on my part. If you zoom the pic, you can see that the nose and ear DON'T MATCH. They just.....don't. There are other features like the brow and hair that look off too. As well as the "mask" mark around the face.

When you realize that Epstein was NOT dead on the gurney...then you have to ask....WHERE WAS HE? And why are they presenting a FAKE IMAGE TO US?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Have you seen what a hanging does to a persons head post mortum with your own eyes? Gruesome

DNA test the body

Only certain way to make sure it’s him. They have his DNA from his Florida conviction

ALL videos and imagery is suspect now. Any thing can be electronically adulterated.
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We have a few scenarios with this case.....

He’s in witness protection

He was killed

He was allowed to kill himself, meaning they knew he was suicidal and did nothing to stop him


Personally, I don’t think he was suicidal, he beat the wrap one other time, he has the goods on very influential people and he’s a rich psychopathic narcissist.
 Quoting: ~kpm~



I agree, Epstein was NOT suicidal. He was not the type - he expected to beat this rap or get a minimal sentence as well. He did not look that worried to me. He still had the same arrogant, smug look he always had. I've also read/heard that he said he DID NOT try to commit suicide the first time, that he had been beaten. They were trying to sell the suicide story then to set up this scenario. Which might mean he did not arrange the grab himself, or that they were not friends.

And there's always the Mossad, I bet they're good at extractions.
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc



The man on the gurney is NOT EPSTEIN. I cannot emphasize this enough. REPEATEDLY. If you examine profile pics of Epstein and Gurney Man - as was done in a thread here on GLP I can't find right now - it's obvious it's NOT THE SAME GUY.

This is NOT wishful thinking or imagination on my part. If you zoom the pic, you can see that the nose and ear DON'T MATCH. They just.....don't. There are other features like the brow and hair that look off too. As well as the "mask" mark around the face.

When you realize that Epstein was NOT dead on the gurney...then you have to ask....WHERE WAS HE? And why are they presenting a FAKE IMAGE TO US?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Have you seen what a hanging does to a persons head post mortum with your own eyes? Gruesome

DNA test the body

Only certain way to make sure it’s him. They have his DNA from his Florida conviction

ALL videos and imagery is suspect now. Any thing can be electronically adulterated.
 Quoting: Bodi Doc




I know what you're saying but that would NOT change the shape of the nose or the ear. Especially the ear. And the pic wasn't gruesome - he was just discolored, that's all really. No bulging eyes or loling tongue. Noses and ears are hard cartilage, not soft tissue that fills with blood.

The problem with DNA evidence is....who takes and evaluates it. We'd probably run into the same wall of lies.

And Epstein's brother has supposedly ID'd the body, which means he's in on it.

I don't know if we'll ever get the truth here, but at least we can POINT OUT THE LIES.
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc



The man on the gurney is NOT EPSTEIN. I cannot emphasize this enough. REPEATEDLY. If you examine profile pics of Epstein and Gurney Man - as was done in a thread here on GLP I can't find right now - it's obvious it's NOT THE SAME GUY.

This is NOT wishful thinking or imagination on my part. If you zoom the pic, you can see that the nose and ear DON'T MATCH. They just.....don't. There are other features like the brow and hair that look off too. As well as the "mask" mark around the face.

When you realize that Epstein was NOT dead on the gurney...then you have to ask....WHERE WAS HE? And why are they presenting a FAKE IMAGE TO US?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Have you seen what a hanging does to a persons head post mortum with your own eyes? Gruesome

DNA test the body

Only certain way to make sure it’s him. They have his DNA from his Florida conviction

ALL videos and imagery is suspect now. Any thing can be electronically adulterated.
 Quoting: Bodi Doc




One of the interesting things about the gurney pic is that it's NOT gruesome. The guy on there could just have had a heart attack. There's no obvious sign of any hanging or traumatic event.

And as I say, the nose and ears don't change even if someone IS hanged.
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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
CBS News has learned that the morning of Jeffrey Epstein's death there was shouting and shrieking from his jail cell.

Guards attempted to revive him while saying "breathe, Epstein, breathe."

CBS News has learned that Epstein's estranged brother Mark was called and he identified Epstein's body.

The New York City Medical Examiner's office has performed an autopsy, but the results are still pending.

In an interview with our West Palm Beach affiliate WPEC, a former Florida corrections worker said Epstein was "treated like a celebrity" during his 13-month stint in a county jail after he pleaded guilty in 2008 to charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution.

She claims his cell was regularly left unlocked and she saw him move freely through the dormitory area – sometimes completely naked – without repercussions.




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And the wierdness parade continues
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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
We have a few scenarios with this case.....

He’s in witness protection

He was killed

He was allowed to kill himself, meaning they knew he was suicidal and did nothing to stop him


Personally, I don’t think he was suicidal, he beat the wrap one other time, he has the goods on very influential people and he’s a rich psychopathic narcissist.
 Quoting: ~kpm~



I agree, Epstein was NOT suicidal. He was not the type - he expected to beat this rap or get a minimal sentence as well. He did not look that worried to me. He still had the same arrogant, smug look he always had. I've also read/heard that he said he DID NOT try to commit suicide the first time, that he had been beaten. They were trying to sell the suicide story then to set up this scenario. Which might mean he did not arrange the grab himself, or that they were not friends.

And there's always the Mossad, I bet they're good at extractions.
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We have a person who was found dead in his cell, the prison announced he was found dead

He was moved to the prison hospital first and I assume a doctor or nurse examined him and then 911 was called

Why were they doing CPR on a dead person?

None of this makes any sense

The first reports were cardiac arrest, well I guess if you hang yourself you do have cardiac arrest

This is all assuming it was him on the gurney and following what is being reported

Not one journalist has asked questions that would explain these anomalies
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc



The man on the gurney is NOT EPSTEIN. I cannot emphasize this enough. REPEATEDLY. If you examine profile pics of Epstein and Gurney Man - as was done in a thread here on GLP I can't find right now - it's obvious it's NOT THE SAME GUY.

This is NOT wishful thinking or imagination on my part. If you zoom the pic, you can see that the nose and ear DON'T MATCH. They just.....don't. There are other features like the brow and hair that look off too. As well as the "mask" mark around the face.

When you realize that Epstein was NOT dead on the gurney...then you have to ask....WHERE WAS HE? And why are they presenting a FAKE IMAGE TO US?
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He's dead,take your meds and lay down for a bit
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CBS News has learned that the morning of Jeffrey Epstein's death there was shouting and shrieking from his jail cell.

Guards attempted to revive him while saying "breathe, Epstein, breathe."

CBS News has learned that Epstein's estranged brother Mark was called and he identified Epstein's body.

The New York City Medical Examiner's office has performed an autopsy, but the results are still pending.

In an interview with our West Palm Beach affiliate WPEC, a former Florida corrections worker said Epstein was "treated like a celebrity" during his 13-month stint in a county jail after he pleaded guilty in 2008 to charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution.

She claims his cell was regularly left unlocked and she saw him move freely through the dormitory area – sometimes completely naked – without repercussions.



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Well, if he wasn't dead before, he is now!

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I just want to emphasize:

In most of these government/media narratives - whether it's false flags or an event like Epstein's "death"....we don't have enough evidence available to determine the TRUTH. But what we CAN do, is POINT OUT THE LIES.
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We have a few scenarios with this case.....

He’s in witness protection

He was killed

He was allowed to kill himself, meaning they knew he was suicidal and did nothing to stop him


Personally, I don’t think he was suicidal, he beat the wrap one other time, he has the goods on very influential people and he’s a rich psychopathic narcissist.
 Quoting: ~kpm~



I agree, Epstein was NOT suicidal. He was not the type - he expected to beat this rap or get a minimal sentence as well. He did not look that worried to me. He still had the same arrogant, smug look he always had. I've also read/heard that he said he DID NOT try to commit suicide the first time, that he had been beaten. They were trying to sell the suicide story then to set up this scenario. Which might mean he did not arrange the grab himself, or that they were not friends.

And there's always the Mossad, I bet they're good at extractions.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


We have a person who was found dead in his cell, the prison announced he was found dead

He was moved to the prison hospital first and I assume a doctor or nurse examined him and then 911 was called

Why were they doing CPR on a dead person?

None of this makes any sense

The first reports were cardiac arrest, well I guess if you hang yourself you do have cardiac arrest

This is all assuming it was him on the gurney and following what is being reported

Not one journalist has asked questions that would explain these anomalies
 Quoting: ~kpm~


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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc



The man on the gurney is NOT EPSTEIN. I cannot emphasize this enough. REPEATEDLY. If you examine profile pics of Epstein and Gurney Man - as was done in a thread here on GLP I can't find right now - it's obvious it's NOT THE SAME GUY.

This is NOT wishful thinking or imagination on my part. If you zoom the pic, you can see that the nose and ear DON'T MATCH. They just.....don't. There are other features like the brow and hair that look off too. As well as the "mask" mark around the face.

When you realize that Epstein was NOT dead on the gurney...then you have to ask....WHERE WAS HE? And why are they presenting a FAKE IMAGE TO US?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Have you seen what a hanging does to a persons head post mortum with your own eyes? Gruesome

DNA test the body

Only certain way to make sure it’s him. They have his DNA from his Florida conviction

ALL videos and imagery is suspect now. Any thing can be electronically adulterated.
 Quoting: Bodi Doc




I know what you're saying but that would NOT change the shape of the nose or the ear. Especially the ear. And the pic wasn't gruesome - he was just discolored, that's all really. No bulging eyes or loling tongue. Noses and ears are hard cartilage, not soft tissue that fills with blood.

The problem with DNA evidence is....who takes and evaluates it. We'd probably run into the same wall of lies.

And Epstein's brother has supposedly ID'd the body, which means he's in on it.

I don't know if we'll ever get the truth here, but at least we can POINT OUT THE LIES.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


If his brother ID’d the body perhaps it actually was Epstein, just not dead?

When in witness protection no one can know, not even your family, you have to just be declared dead or missing right?

If they really wanted to scurry him away they had to have someone ID him as dead, he certainly couldn’t just go missing or not be ID’d
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If I had to guess, I'd guess that Epstein was freed either by the Black Hats (including a foreign govt like thru Mossad) or by people he hired.

If OUR GOVT (like CIA) had done this job, I would think they'd have a better cover story than this one. This cover story stinks to high heaven and NO ONE BELIEVES IT. It makes the govt look bad, top to bottom, and I wouldn't think they'd do that to themselves.
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why is there a problem determining the cause of death ?
we are being fed numerous stories with varying details that make no sense at all.
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why is there a problem determining the cause of death ?
we are being fed numerous stories with varying details that make no sense at all.
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Because Epstein’s reps wanted to hire Baden to oversee the autopsy and conduct one of his own

This means we might have conflicting causes of death or just more confirmation that it was suicide

Depending on what story they want the public to believe
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The man on the gurney is NOT EPSTEIN. I cannot emphasize this enough. REPEATEDLY. If you examine profile pics of Epstein and Gurney Man - as was done in a thread here on GLP I can't find right now - it's obvious it's NOT THE SAME GUY.

This is NOT wishful thinking or imagination on my part. If you zoom the pic, you can see that the nose and ear DON'T MATCH. They just.....don't. There are other features like the brow and hair that look off too. As well as the "mask" mark around the face.

When you realize that Epstein was NOT dead on the gurney...then you have to ask....WHERE WAS HE? And why are they presenting a FAKE IMAGE TO US?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Have you seen what a hanging does to a persons head post mortum with your own eyes? Gruesome

DNA test the body

Only certain way to make sure it’s him. They have his DNA from his Florida conviction

ALL videos and imagery is suspect now. Any thing can be electronically adulterated.
 Quoting: Bodi Doc




I know what you're saying but that would NOT change the shape of the nose or the ear. Especially the ear. And the pic wasn't gruesome - he was just discolored, that's all really. No bulging eyes or loling tongue. Noses and ears are hard cartilage, not soft tissue that fills with blood.

The problem with DNA evidence is....who takes and evaluates it. We'd probably run into the same wall of lies.

And Epstein's brother has supposedly ID'd the body, which means he's in on it.

I don't know if we'll ever get the truth here, but at least we can POINT OUT THE LIES.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


If his brother ID’d the body perhaps it actually was Epstein, just not dead?

When in witness protection no one can know, not even your family, you have to just be declared dead or missing right?

If they really wanted to scurry him away they had to have someone ID him as dead, he certainly couldn’t just go missing or not be ID’d
 Quoting: ~kpm~




There also is a possibility that they got him out, found out what they wanted, killed him, and that the real body is now in custody (NOT GURNEY MAN IN THE PIC). So there is a possibility that Brother Epstein ID'd the real body.

Again, that might be the real reason the Island is being raided yesterday/today. Think about it - they probably went over that island since he's been arrested. THEY MUST HAVE. If they're going over it again....maybe it's because they GOT NEW INFORMATION. And who would they get info from? Perhaps the "late" Jeffrey Epstein?

As I say here, we have to point out the lies rather than know the truth. The lies are that he was killed in his cell by himself or someone else, and that the man on the gurney was him. THOSE ARE LIES. So as they are lies, something ELSE happened.
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HE Didnt SUICIDE He was STRANGLEBATING.
And SCREAMING In Ecstasy.
DEATH was a SIDE Effect!

Dude Was a SICK PedoPervert!
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why is there a problem determining the cause of death ?
we are being fed numerous stories with varying details that make no sense at all.
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Because Epstein’s reps wanted to hire Baden to oversee the autopsy and conduct one of his own

This means we might have conflicting causes of death or just more confirmation that it was suicide

Depending on what story they want the public to believe
 Quoting: ~kpm~



Baden has also been involved with many controversial cases like JFK, MLK, OJ, etc and I would very much doubt that he comes to any "real" conclusions that vary from what the govt wants to hear.
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Have you seen what a hanging does to a persons head post mortum with your own eyes? Gruesome

DNA test the body

Only certain way to make sure it’s him. They have his DNA from his Florida conviction

ALL videos and imagery is suspect now. Any thing can be electronically adulterated.
 Quoting: Bodi Doc




I know what you're saying but that would NOT change the shape of the nose or the ear. Especially the ear. And the pic wasn't gruesome - he was just discolored, that's all really. No bulging eyes or loling tongue. Noses and ears are hard cartilage, not soft tissue that fills with blood.

The problem with DNA evidence is....who takes and evaluates it. We'd probably run into the same wall of lies.

And Epstein's brother has supposedly ID'd the body, which means he's in on it.

I don't know if we'll ever get the truth here, but at least we can POINT OUT THE LIES.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


If his brother ID’d the body perhaps it actually was Epstein, just not dead?

When in witness protection no one can know, not even your family, you have to just be declared dead or missing right?

If they really wanted to scurry him away they had to have someone ID him as dead, he certainly couldn’t just go missing or not be ID’d
 Quoting: ~kpm~




There also is a possibility that they got him out, found out what they wanted, killed him, and that the real body is now in custody (NOT GURNEY MAN IN THE PIC). So there is a possibility that Brother Epstein ID'd the real body.

Again, that might be the real reason the Island is being raided yesterday/today. Think about it - they probably went over that island since he's been arrested. THEY MUST HAVE. If they're going over it again....maybe it's because they GOT NEW INFORMATION. And who would they get info from? Perhaps the "late" Jeffrey Epstein?

As I say here, we have to point out the lies rather than know the truth. The lies are that he was killed in his cell by himself or someone else, and that the man on the gurney was him. THOSE ARE LIES. So as they are lies, something ELSE happened.
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The raid timing is very suspect

Maybe his attorneys, who wanted him off suicide watch had info since they supposedly were spending 12 hours a day with him

No one who spends that time with attorneys is suicidal, that’s someone who’s building a defense
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why is there a problem determining the cause of death ?
we are being fed numerous stories with varying details that make no sense at all.
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Because Epstein’s reps wanted to hire Baden to oversee the autopsy and conduct one of his own

This means we might have conflicting causes of death or just more confirmation that it was suicide

Depending on what story they want the public to believe
 Quoting: ~kpm~



Baden has also been involved with many controversial cases like JFK, MLK, OJ, etc and I would very much doubt that he comes to any "real" conclusions that vary from what the govt wants to hear.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


When you’re paid you find what the people who paid you want to hear

So this will be interesting to see what his conclusions are

What narrative do they want the public to know?
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Every day there's a new conspiracy theory, but the FBI warns people to stop talking about it.
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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
Every day there's a new conspiracy theory, but the FBI warns people to stop talking about it.
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While they create them!
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Someone is looking for a deal!!!!!


“ Whether or not he’ll ( Nicholas Tartaglione ) be in a position to cooperate remains unclear,” Barket said.

“But he certainly has information that would be very valuable to the investigation if they want access to it.”




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very interesting. This obviously means something is shady. but we know that already.
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It’s so blatant what his lawyers are doing.....

Begging for any kind of deal for him to squeal
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They are begging for his death, if you ask me.
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wtf


They just thought the seize these items?!?!?!?



FBI seized computers in raid at Jeffrey Epstein’s Virgin Island home


FBI agents seized computers from wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein’s home in the Virgin Islands during a raid Monday of the private island owned by the late accused sex trafficker, according to drone footage.

The footage reviewed by NBC News shows that at least two computer desktops and an Apple computer were packaged and marked to be taken away from Little St. James island as part of the FBI probe.





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Re: Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened
There also is a possibility that they got him out, found out what they wanted, killed him, and that the real body is now in custody (NOT GURNEY MAN IN THE PIC). So there is a possibility that Brother Epstein ID'd the real body.

Again, that might be the real reason the Island is being raided yesterday/today. Think about it - they probably went over that island since he's been arrested. THEY MUST HAVE. If they're going over it again....maybe it's because they GOT NEW INFORMATION. And who would they get info from? Perhaps the "late" Jeffrey Epstein?

As I say here, we have to point out the lies rather than know the truth. The lies are that he was killed in his cell by himself or someone else, and that the man on the gurney was him. THOSE ARE LIES. So as they are lies, something ELSE happened.
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The raid timing is very suspect

Maybe his attorneys, who wanted him off suicide watch had info since they supposedly were spending 12 hours a day with him

No one who spends that time with attorneys is suicidal, that’s someone who’s building a defense
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That is an excellent point, KPM, about the 12 hour sessions - you're right. No one who spends that kind of time with attorneys is suicidal. He's planning to beat the rap.

The raid timing is VERY SUSPECT. Especially as I would think - and I believe we KNOW - that they've been over this island before. So why would they be doing this again? The only reason I could think is because they found new info. How would they get new info?

Epstein told them (directly or through an intermediary).
Dead Man's Switch? Maybe even an abduction effort would trigger that.

Or would they go over the island again to cover up evidence? but they could have done that previously. Or to make it look like they ARE doing something? But it draws attention to them.

I tend to think they got new info.
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