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Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he died-Links to why the case was reopened

 
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wtf


They just thought the seize these items?!?!?!?



FBI seized computers in raid at Jeffrey Epstein’s Virgin Island home


FBI agents seized computers from wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein’s home in the Virgin Islands during a raid Monday of the private island owned by the late accused sex trafficker, according to drone footage.

The footage reviewed by NBC News shows that at least two computer desktops and an Apple computer were packaged and marked to be taken away from Little St. James island as part of the FBI probe.





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It doesn't seem possible to me that in a criminal case of this size, that they would JUST NOW be seizing these materials. They must have LEARNED SOMETHING NEW. And maybe they're seizing it for a good reason, or maybe to cover something up. I assume they're lying to us as they always do. It just doesn't make sense that they'd get these materials NOW - this would surely have been done already.

Making themselves look very very bad.
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The Secret History of Jeffrey Epstein's New York Townhouse

Before it became infamous as Jeffrey Epstein's house of horrors, 9 East 71st Street was a gilded mansion with an illustrious past.

How he came to own it remains a mystery.


Its previous owner was his mentor, Leslie H. Wexner, chairman of L Brands, which owns retailers including Victoria’s Secret.

For reasons that have never been explained, Wexner appears to have made a gift of the house to Epstein, transferring title for the cost of $0 around 1996.

The New York Times reports the property was formally transferred in 2011 from a trust controlled by Wexner and Epstein to a Virgin Islands-based entity controlled by Epstein; Wexner, meanwhile, told the Times through a spokeswoman that he "severed ties" with Epstein a decade ago.




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So what if someone ELSE - like Mossad perhaps - grabbed Epstein, got the info out of him and then relayed it to people in our govt, which is why FBI is down on the island again.

This might explain the lack of a decent cover story for Epstein's abduction - because a foreign govt's spies might not care about a decent cover story for our govt - and also why our govt would seem to be acting on NEW INFORMATION.

There's some REASON they are down there now doing things they should have done long ago.
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Why didn't he use his clothes instead of risking flimsy bed sheets?


:Gurney:
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7sually when youre off suicide watch you r given 2 sheets and a blanket.

The sheets are normal bed sheets not the paper ones issued for suicide watch.
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hugs

Regular hanging kills by breaking the neck, generally... but I thought the purpose of hanging without a drop was to cut off your breath.

Who knew that you could scream without breathing?

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Short drop = slow death by choking
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The Secret History of Jeffrey Epstein's New York Townhouse

Before it became infamous as Jeffrey Epstein's house of horrors, 9 East 71st Street was a gilded mansion with an illustrious past.

How he came to own it remains a mystery.


Its previous owner was his mentor, Leslie H. Wexner, chairman of L Brands, which owns retailers including Victoria’s Secret.

For reasons that have never been explained, Wexner appears to have made a gift of the house to Epstein, transferring title for the cost of $0 around 1996.

The New York Times reports the property was formally transferred in 2011 from a trust controlled by Wexner and Epstein to a Virgin Islands-based entity controlled by Epstein; Wexner, meanwhile, told the Times through a spokeswoman that he "severed ties" with Epstein a decade ago.




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Wexner needs to be arrested too - he's in this up to his eyeballs. No one gifts property like that in Manhattan. That's just...silly.
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I would assume the Victoria's Secret, with all its tranny models, was a cover for an international prostitution racket. Perhaps a giant honeypot program. It's interesting to speculate what some of these companies and programs REALLY are.
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So what if someone ELSE - like Mossad perhaps - grabbed Epstein, got the info out of him and then relayed it to people in our govt, which is why FBI is down on the island again.

This might explain the lack of a decent cover story for Epstein's abduction - because a foreign govt's spies might not care about a decent cover story for our govt - and also why our govt would seem to be acting on NEW INFORMATION.

There's some REASON they are down there now doing things they should have done long ago.
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I read somewhere that he was never transferred to a hospital after the first attempt.

That he was just seen in the prison hospital

Is this normal?

It’s all been controlled by the prison at this point, his attempt and his suicide

No one on the outside had access to his body until 911 was called
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
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Nope. They are required to do CPR until declared officially dead by hospital doctor. My grandmother was clearly dead, but the CPR was done anyway, all the way to the hospital until declared officially dead.
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Why didn't he use his clothes instead of risking flimsy bed sheets?


Gurney
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7sually when youre off suicide watch you r given 2 sheets and a blanket.

The sheets are normal bed sheets not the paper ones issued for suicide watch.
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Thanks for clearing that up, I didn’t know if all the sheets were flimsy or not
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
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Nope. They are required to do CPR until declared officially dead by hospital doctor. My grandmother was clearly dead, but the CPR was done anyway, all the way to the hospital until declared officially dead.
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Except the prison hospital saw him first and then 911 was called
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Here's another scenario - now we're just exploring scenarios, not saying THIS IS THE ANSWER OR TRUTH, just looking at options.

I think - obviously I'm not alone in this - that the timing of the Epstein extraction was tied to the release of the new documents and NEW NAMES on Friday. This mean that the case was EXPANDING....and that the trial had to be STOPPED before more releases occurred. Which would be a good reason for killing Epstein in itself.

So what happened after these new NAMES were released?

The next day something happens to Epstein. He is either killed, suicide, or extracted. The fake NY Post gurney pic makes me believe extracted.

What happens NEXT?

The FBI raid Little St James and grab computers and piles of boxes - we know from the drone footage that some saint took. Why didn't they have these materials BEFORE?

I would think it's because they learned something NEW. Maybe the significance of something that didn't seem significant before. Something they didn't want anyone else to get.

HOW would they learn anything NEW? I can only think from Epstein.

So it might be possible a faction in our own Deep State arranged for his extraction, beat the info out of him, probably killed him, and that is why they're in St. James picking up stuff they should have picked up months ago.
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wtf


They just thought the seize these items?!?!?!?



FBI seized computers in raid at Jeffrey Epstein’s Virgin Island home


FBI agents seized computers from wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein’s home in the Virgin Islands during a raid Monday of the private island owned by the late accused sex trafficker, according to drone footage.

The footage reviewed by NBC News shows that at least two computer desktops and an Apple computer were packaged and marked to be taken away from Little St. James island as part of the FBI probe.





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 Quoting: ~kpm~


And supposedly they raided the island just after he was arrested and DIDNT GRAB THIS STUFF?

Cmon man
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there is a fact that all of us are overlooking here.. the nearly 45 minutes from the time he was dead until he was found.. where was he? was he transferred from one cell to another?
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meddling
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Finances of Jeffrey Epstein’s Younger Brother Equally as Mysterious: Report


Video in link.....

He’s the one who identified JE


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there is a fact that all of us are overlooking here.. the nearly 45 minutes from the time he was dead until he was found.. where was he? was he transferred from one cell to another?
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They don’t even know how long he was dead, I think it was hours in between checks?
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Mark Epstein: The Man Who Could Inherit Jeffrey's Millions


After Jeffrey Epstein’s death in a jail cell, the public and his alleged victims have turned their focus to his co-conspirators and his younger sibling, Mark Epstein.

Mark, who is currently a real estate magnate, raised eyebrows by providing his condo in Florida as collateral for Jeffrey’s bail.

He has officially denied ties to any of his brother’s businesses, even though one of his properties is a keynote in one of the sex trafficking charges.

There is also the matter of his unexplained wealth, considering he has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to charity and is almost retired.




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Kinda surprised CBS is reporting this. Usually they’d ignore.
I smell an angle
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The happy hookers, seriously, are not sex slaves.
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killcame
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Thanks for the pin Scrump......


hugs
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hugs

Regular hanging kills by breaking the neck, generally... but I thought the purpose of hanging without a drop was to cut off your breath.

Who knew that you could scream without breathing?

It's a miracle!

pope
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Short drop = slow death by choking
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Yup... and not to conducive to screaming.
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:killcame:
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Thanks for the pin Scrump......


hugs
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hugs

Regular hanging kills by breaking the neck, generally... but I thought the purpose of hanging without a drop was to cut off your breath.

Who knew that you could scream without breathing?

It's a miracle!

pope
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Suicide by hanging in jail, and a lot out of jail is not what you think it is. Generally the person does not hang there whole body, death is not by neck breaking or even cut off of air supply. It is by cutting of blood supply.They tie something around there neck to cut off blood supply to the brain, pass out then body weight keeps tension on whatever they used. Don't need to tie to a ceiling or anything high. Tie to top bunk, when you pass out tension is applied.
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Mark Epstein ......


A former artist turned real estate magnate, Mark raised eyebrows last month by offering up his Florida condo as collateral for his brother’s bail.

While he has denied any connection to Jeffrey’s businesses, at least one of Mark’s properties has turned up repeatedly in sex trafficking suits against his older sibling.

And his unexplained wealth—he claims to have semi-retired at age 39 and has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to charity—may come under further scrutiny as the federal conspiracy investigation into his brother’s trafficking ring continues.

At the heart of Epstein’s potential financial ties to his brother is his real estate company, Ossa Properties.

At one time, Ossa Properties owned more than 500 renter-occupied apartments in four co-op projects in New York City, according to a 1993 New York Times article.

The company has almost no web presence and, according to a former intern, is run almost exclusively by one man: Anthony Barrett. (The former intern told The Daily Beast he got the Ossa Properties job because he was dating Barrett’s daughter.)


Mark Epstein denied any connection between Ossa Properties and J. Epstein. & Co. in an interview with Crain’s New York, claiming the information on the documents was a “mistake.”

But Barrett later told The Wall Street Journal that the two were indeed affiliated.


Epstein also appears to have tried his hand in the modeling industry, around the same time his brother allegedly donated $1 million to Brunel’s Mc2.

Business records show Mark Epstein formed his own agency, Saint Model and Talent, in December 2005.

The business has no website or social media presence, and it is unclear if it ever signed a model.

But one former tenant of Epstein’s says he remembers it well.



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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc


Nope. They are required to do CPR until declared officially dead by hospital doctor. My grandmother was clearly dead, but the CPR was done anyway, all the way to the hospital until declared officially dead.
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Except the prison hospital saw him first and then 911 was called
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Idk why that would be considered unusual. You take a med emergency to the nearest med facility. Transfer if unable to help victim. Even if the prison hospital found him dead, they are still required to try to resuscitate until officially declared dead.
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Another question I have. This picture shows CPR being done AT THE HOSPITAL

Epstein was removed from the MCC on a gurney with a sheet over him. He WAS ALREADY DEAD.
Why are the pictured at the hospital doing COR when they were transporting A DEAD BOBY

Believe me. This is extraordinary
 Quoting: Bodi Doc


Nope. They are required to do CPR until declared officially dead by hospital doctor. My grandmother was clearly dead, but the CPR was done anyway, all the way to the hospital until declared officially dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77912695


Except the prison hospital saw him first and then 911 was called
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Idk why that would be considered unusual. You take a med emergency to the nearest med facility. Transfer if unable to help victim. Even if the prison hospital found him dead, they are still required to try to resuscitate until officially declared dead.
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Couldn't the hospital doctor or staff officially declare him dead?
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Shrieking, was Hillary there?
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Here's another scenario - now we're just exploring scenarios, not saying THIS IS THE ANSWER OR TRUTH, just looking at options.

I think - obviously I'm not alone in this - that the timing of the Epstein extraction was tied to the release of the new documents and NEW NAMES on Friday. This mean that the case was EXPANDING....and that the trial had to be STOPPED before more releases occurred. Which would be a good reason for killing Epstein in itself.

So what happened after these new NAMES were released?

The next day something happens to Epstein. He is either killed, suicide, or extracted. The fake NY Post gurney pic makes me believe extracted.

What happens NEXT?

The FBI raid Little St James and grab computers and piles of boxes - we know from the drone footage that some saint took. Why didn't they have these materials BEFORE?

I would think it's because they learned something NEW. Maybe the significance of something that didn't seem significant before. Something they didn't want anyone else to get.

HOW would they learn anything NEW? I can only think from Epstein.

So it might be possible a faction in our own Deep State arranged for his extraction, beat the info out of him, probably killed him, and that is why they're in St. James picking up stuff they should have picked up months ago.
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The only way we are going to know if Epstien committed suicide or was killed is video released of the outside of the cell (to see if someone went in), the release of two independent toxicology reports (to see if he was poisoned) and the blueprints of the heating/cooling vents and sewer system of the facility and all video of the outside of the facility and all video available of the inside of the entire facility to see if someone found a way inside of his cell.





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