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My daughter got a severe case of bronchitis for the millionth time. Per usual they prescribed her an inhaler, an antibiotic and prednisone with instructions to take her to the hospital immediately if she developed a fever or symptoms of pneumonia.

Although the acute symptoms of bronchitis can last up to 2 weeks. My girl was feeling better within 2 days. Thought I would share our strategy in case it’s helpful for someone else.

I kept the inhaler and tossed the prednisone and antibiotic.
Complete bedrest and quarantine.
Humidifier with specific essential oils blowing right in her face.
Chicken noodle soup
Tea with Manuka Honey
Elderberry syrup
Vit C


She’s good as new except for a lingering cough which is to be expected. Although usually I can stop sickness at its entry point without anyone else catching it, this time I caught it. This is unusual, but I was coming off 3 back to back 13 hr shifts and I think my immune system was down.

Anyway, I used the same strategy minus the inhaler. Felt like death the entire day. My lungs were on fire. I slept as much as I could and the next day was fine except for a lingering cough.

Hope this helps someone. Blessings! hf

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I started using 3% hydrogen peroxide solution in my nebulizer when I first sense any infection starting in my nose, throat or lungs. Knocks it right out of me before I get sick.
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Frankincense was one of the oils I used in the humidifier, along with tea tree, clove, lavender, cinnamon and thyme. I would have used peppermint too, but my girl reacts to it.
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I started using 3% hydrogen peroxide solution in my nebulizer when I first sense any infection starting in my nose, throat or lungs. Knocks it right out of me before I get sick.
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Oooooh!! Thank you!!!
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I started using 3% hydrogen peroxide solution in my nebulizer when I first sense any infection starting in my nose, throat or lungs. Knocks it right out of me before I get sick.
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Oooooh!! Thank you!!!
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Just keep your eyes closed when inhaling and don't overdo it. There are videos you can watch on Youtube. I inhaled too much in my nose once and I sneezed for 10 minutes. It really works though. Only 3% solution, no more than that.
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I started using 3% hydrogen peroxide solution in my nebulizer when I first sense any infection starting in my nose, throat or lungs. Knocks it right out of me before I get sick.
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Oooooh!! Thank you!!!
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Just keep your eyes closed when inhaling and don't overdo it. There are videos you can watch on Youtube. I inhaled too much in my nose once and I sneezed for 10 minutes. It really works though. Only 3% solution, no more than that.
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Just H2o2? No water??
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I started using 3% hydrogen peroxide solution in my nebulizer when I first sense any infection starting in my nose, throat or lungs. Knocks it right out of me before I get sick.
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Oooooh!! Thank you!!!
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Just keep your eyes closed when inhaling and don't overdo it. There are videos you can watch on Youtube. I inhaled too much in my nose once and I sneezed for 10 minutes. It really works though. Only 3% solution, no more than that.
 Quoting: Skip. 77882843


Just H2o2? No water??
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This is my question too

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Oooooh!! Thank you!!!
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Just keep your eyes closed when inhaling and don't overdo it. There are videos you can watch on Youtube. I inhaled too much in my nose once and I sneezed for 10 minutes. It really works though. Only 3% solution, no more than that.
 Quoting: Skip. 77882843


Just H2o2? No water??
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This is my question too
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution is 97% water already. Safe to gargle with and inhaled in small amounts using a fine mist.



You can pick up a nebulizer for under $30.
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Just keep your eyes closed when inhaling and don't overdo it. There are videos you can watch on Youtube. I inhaled too much in my nose once and I sneezed for 10 minutes. It really works though. Only 3% solution, no more than that.
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Just H2o2? No water??
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This is my question too
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution is 97% water already. Safe to gargle with and inhaled in small amounts using a fine mist.



You can pick up a nebulizer for under $30.
 Quoting: Skip. 77882843


You rock, thank you!!
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Just H2o2? No water??
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This is my question too
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3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution is 97% water already. Safe to gargle with and inhaled in small amounts using a fine mist.



You can pick up a nebulizer for under $30.
 Quoting: Skip. 77882843


You rock, thank you!!
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


Thanks. Start slow to test for a reaction. I never had any except for mild eye irritation when I didn't close my eyes and that one time I irritated my nasal membranes because I overdid it. Everyone is different though so test it out slowly at first.
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I will tell you how to keep bronchitis away and how to go from stage 3 copd to stage 1 copd. I have had 29 cases of bad bronchitis, new pneumonia several times and now over the last 7 years not one case of bronchitis or any allergies or sinus infections and this comes from a 59 year old that had smoked 30 years. My lungs have gotten better than they have been in a long time. The key is Lypo- spheric or lyposomal vitamin c,never would have believed it and most people want. Start with 3000mg twice a day and watch what happens. [. LYPOSOMAL VITAMIN C. ]. LYPOSOMAL VITAMIN C. LYPOSOMAL VITAMIN C, CANT STRESS IT ENOUGH.
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Generally a cough is due to mucus thickening which narrows the bronchioles (the main tubes that make up the passage to the lungs). A cough is a reflex action to clear this thickening so more respiration can occur.

The thickening of mucus is generally due to irritataion but can be discolored by various stages of dead white blood cells. Ordinarily you have "dust cells" in it and the mucus is fairly clear. If it turns yellow and green, that indicates infection.

The old school way was to smell the mucus as there is a distinct odor when infection is present.

The inhaler dialates (opens the bronchioles) through relaxation thus giving the patient more relief.

Here is one natural way to expel old mucus plugs. This "percussive therapy" accelerates this expulsion by coughing and over the waves of cilia to sweep debris up and out the throat.

The cupped tapping systematically disloges trapped mucus from the lobes.

This used to be very routine for parents of cystic fibrosis patients before percussion vests.
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Menthol is taken by many people in cough drops but methol exacerbates mucus production ie increases it. Use some alternative and likely containing zinc.

Any irritant or narrowing of the air passage triggers a cough response and here the narrowing is caused by thickened mucus. Eventually the color will become clear, but constant irritation can create a "dry non-productive cough".

Expectorants loosen mucus plugs. Other cough syrup sooth the irritation.

People who are very sick will often swallow their phlegm. What happens often is they started with a viral infection and started swallowing their phlegm (often done by kids and the elderly or disoriented very sick adults). Then food particles are in this phlegm and a bacterial infection happens on top of the viral infection. Their fever spikes, their mucus turns yellow and is thickened. That is when antibiotics are needed.

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Let me repeat it Lypo- spheric or lyposomal vitamin c. Vitamin c has cured many diseases including septis, if it cures septis what do you think it will do to bronchitis. These home remedies post on this thread they help but nothing compares to lyposomal vitamin c [ PERIOD ] speaking from experience.
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When treating a wound, you CLEAN IT FIRST. That is why a Netti pot works as it cleans any microbes by irrigating the passage so saving the patient from infections.

When treating a respiratory infection, you clean out stinky old yellow and green mucus by percussive therapy, and THEN use medication or herbs to treat the irritation.

It's always the same for any wound. Get all that generally nastiness and debris out, then you can deal with infections.

Your smoker who becomes your patient has chronically irritated lungs AND collected irritants making his dust cells and cilia work five times harder than normal. They are going to be coughing up yellowed plegm for sure and a lung infection is very serious as their poor airway and lungs are RAW.

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I will tell you how to keep bronchitis away and how to go from stage 3 copd to stage 1 copd. I have had 29 cases of bad bronchitis, new pneumonia several times and now over the last 7 years not one case of bronchitis or any allergies or sinus infections and this comes from a 59 year old that had smoked 30 years. My lungs have gotten better than they have been in a long time. The key is Lypo- spheric or lyposomal vitamin c,never would have believed it and most people want. Start with 3000mg twice a day and watch what happens. [. LYPOSOMAL VITAMIN C. ]. LYPOSOMAL VITAMIN C. LYPOSOMAL VITAMIN C, CANT STRESS IT ENOUGH.
 Quoting: Silverbird 75436794


Let me repeat it Lypo- spheric or lyposomal vitamin c. Vitamin c has cured many diseases including septis, if it cures septis what do you think it will do to bronchitis. These home remedies post on this thread they help but nothing compares to lyposomal vitamin c [ PERIOD ] speaking from experience.
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Wow! Quite an impressive recovery! My daughter gets bronchitis 2 or 3 times a year. I have witnessed the incredible results of Vitamin C, but what is “Lyposomal” Vitamin C?
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Menthol is taken by many people in cough drops but methol exacerbates mucus production ie increases it. Use some alternative and likely containing zinc.

Any irritant or narrowing of the air passage triggers a cough response and here the narrowing is caused by thickened mucus. Eventually the color will become clear, but constant irritation can create a "dry non-productive cough".

Expectorants loosen mucus plugs. Other cough syrup sooth the irritation.

People who are very sick will often swallow their phlegm. What happens often is they started with a viral infection and started swallowing their phlegm (often done by kids and the elderly or disoriented very sick adults). Then food particles are in this phlegm and a bacterial infection happens on top of the viral infection. Their fever spikes, their mucus turns yellow and is thickened. That is when antibiotics are needed.
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My bronchitis prone daughter has been struggling with respiratory issues since she was born. To my dismay and even with consistent rebuking she always swallows her mucous. I am going to show her your post.

I also very much appreciate your video of the percussion therapy. It’s funny bc I always instinctively want to pound her chest, but resisted bc I was afraid of hurting her and thought it was just me being hyper. Lol I see now that it was my instinct being correct and I am grateful for the knowledge and “how to.” Thanks!
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When treating a wound, you CLEAN IT FIRST. That is why a Netti pot works as it cleans any microbes by irrigating the passage so saving the patient from infections.

When treating a respiratory infection, you clean out stinky old yellow and green mucus by percussive therapy, and THEN use medication or herbs to treat the irritation.

It's always the same for any wound. Get all that generally nastiness and debris out, then you can deal with infections.

Your smoker who becomes your patient has chronically irritated lungs AND collected irritants making his dust cells and cilia work five times harder than normal. They are going to be coughing up yellowed plegm for sure and a lung infection is very serious as their poor airway and lungs are RAW.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


I will also show her this one bc I am constantly chasing her down with the Neti Pot. Sometimes hearing it from someone other than mom helps!

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Thank you very much! I’m actually getting beehives this spring, so I will have plenty of honey and propolis!
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Menthol is taken by many people in cough drops but methol exacerbates mucus production ie increases it. Use some alternative and likely containing zinc.

Any irritant or narrowing of the air passage triggers a cough response and here the narrowing is caused by thickened mucus. Eventually the color will become clear, but constant irritation can create a "dry non-productive cough".

Expectorants loosen mucus plugs. Other cough syrup sooth the irritation.

People who are very sick will often swallow their phlegm. What happens often is they started with a viral infection and started swallowing their phlegm (often done by kids and the elderly or disoriented very sick adults). Then food particles are in this phlegm and a bacterial infection happens on top of the viral infection. Their fever spikes, their mucus turns yellow and is thickened. That is when antibiotics are needed.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


My bronchitis prone daughter has been struggling with respiratory issues since she was born. To my dismay and even with consistent rebuking she always swallows her mucous. I am going to show her your post.

I also very much appreciate your video of the percussion therapy. It’s funny bc I always instinctively want to pound her chest, but resisted bc I was afraid of hurting her and thought it was just me being hyper. Lol I see now that it was my instinct being correct and I am grateful for the knowledge and “how to.” Thanks!
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If you swallow your phlegm, you are forcing the liver and kidneys to try to filter minute infected mucus particles. That is insane.
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Just keep your eyes closed when inhaling and don't overdo it. There are videos you can watch on Youtube. I inhaled too much in my nose once and I sneezed for 10 minutes. It really works though. Only 3% solution, no more than that.
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Just H2o2? No water??
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This is my question too
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3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution is 97% water already.


 Quoting: Skip. 77882843



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When treating a wound, you CLEAN IT FIRST. That is why a Netti pot works as it cleans any microbes by irrigating the passage so saving the patient from infections.

When treating a respiratory infection, you clean out stinky old yellow and green mucus by percussive therapy, and THEN use medication or herbs to treat the irritation.

It's always the same for any wound. Get all that generally nastiness and debris out, then you can deal with infections.

Your smoker who becomes your patient has chronically irritated lungs AND collected irritants making his dust cells and cilia work five times harder than normal. They are going to be coughing up yellowed plegm for sure and a lung infection is very serious as their poor airway and lungs are RAW.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


I will also show her this one bc I am constantly chasing her down with the Neti Pot. Sometimes hearing it from someone other than mom helps!
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl

Always boil the water and let it cool just to be safe. Tell her, "Do you brush and wash your teeth or just use mouthwash?" You sluice out debris from the nasal passages as bacteria loves to live there. The easiest non messy way is to make it part of showering. Even doing once a week should minimize issues especially in winter and during allergy season.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
John 3:19-21
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This is kind of weird and I am definitely not prescribing this method as I came up with it myself, but seemed to work for me really well.

I have a colloidal silver spray I really low potency but from a reputable company.

Normally you can just spray this in your throat, but it doesn't get in the lungs.. so what I do is I spray it and take a deep breath in simultaneously making sure some of the mist gets into my lungs. Shit works miracles I swear.
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Pollen irritates the lining and often lookly like spiked objects and that makes the respiratory lining prone to viral and bacterial infections. Then all the routine irritants like dust and mold get a foothold.

You might try a special air filter in her room to remove particulates from being breathed in.
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Menthol is taken by many people in cough drops but methol exacerbates mucus production ie increases it. Use some alternative and likely containing zinc.

Any irritant or narrowing of the air passage triggers a cough response and here the narrowing is caused by thickened mucus. Eventually the color will become clear, but constant irritation can create a "dry non-productive cough".

Expectorants loosen mucus plugs. Other cough syrup sooth the irritation.

People who are very sick will often swallow their phlegm. What happens often is they started with a viral infection and started swallowing their phlegm (often done by kids and the elderly or disoriented very sick adults). Then food particles are in this phlegm and a bacterial infection happens on top of the viral infection. Their fever spikes, their mucus turns yellow and is thickened. That is when antibiotics are needed.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


My bronchitis prone daughter has been struggling with respiratory issues since she was born. To my dismay and even with consistent rebuking she always swallows her mucous. I am going to show her your post.

I also very much appreciate your video of the percussion therapy. It’s funny bc I always instinctively want to pound her chest, but resisted bc I was afraid of hurting her and thought it was just me being hyper. Lol I see now that it was my instinct being correct and I am grateful for the knowledge and “how to.” Thanks!
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl

If you swallow your phlegm, you are forcing the liver and kidneys to try to filter minute infected mucus particles. That is insane.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


Well, she is quite insane, so that makes sense. It’s not her fault tho. I chose to breed. Lol
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When treating a wound, you CLEAN IT FIRST. That is why a Netti pot works as it cleans any microbes by irrigating the passage so saving the patient from infections.

When treating a respiratory infection, you clean out stinky old yellow and green mucus by percussive therapy, and THEN use medication or herbs to treat the irritation.

It's always the same for any wound. Get all that generally nastiness and debris out, then you can deal with infections.

Your smoker who becomes your patient has chronically irritated lungs AND collected irritants making his dust cells and cilia work five times harder than normal. They are going to be coughing up yellowed plegm for sure and a lung infection is very serious as their poor airway and lungs are RAW.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


I will also show her this one bc I am constantly chasing her down with the Neti Pot. Sometimes hearing it from someone other than mom helps!
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl

Always boil the water and let it cool just to be safe. Tell her, "Do you brush and wash your teeth or just use mouthwash?" You sluice out debris from the nasal passages as bacteria loves to live there. The easiest non messy way is to make it part of showering. Even doing once a week should minimize issues especially in winter and during allergy season.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


Doing it while showering is an amazing idea!

ETA: I didn’t mean it to sound like that haha

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This is kind of weird and I am definitely not prescribing this method as I came up with it myself, but seemed to work for me really well.

I have a colloidal silver spray I really low potency but from a reputable company.

Normally you can just spray this in your throat, but it doesn't get in the lungs.. so what I do is I spray it and take a deep breath in simultaneously making sure some of the mist gets into my lungs. Shit works miracles I swear.
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So your using it kind of like an inhaler?
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