I have personally seen many people whine and bitch and moan and scorn when I tried to tell them this a decade ago. They didn't listen, they didn't look into what I said, and they forced this shit onto their girls. This was my experience over and over online as an anti vaccine activist. I quit years ago. Because they want it, and there was no stopping them. Heaven help us because the brainwashing is getting people to cull themselves.