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Do You Really Think China Is Going To Cave And Sign Trump's Trade Deal?

 
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It will become tit for tat, already seeing this by Trump putting tarrifs up to 30 %. It will be bad for the economy of the whole world, Trump will be remembered as Trump the destroyer.....
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As for the Chinese? The wonderful, humane, generous Chinese. The wonderful government of Tienanmen Square and, now, Hong Kong?

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As if America is such a peaceful country instigating wars in other parts of the world.....
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You won't get an argument from me when it comes to sleazy American public figures like a Hillary cackling "We came, we saw, he died."

Odd how things like that go because I bet you had a soft spot in your heart for her versus any conservative American.

What's that all about?

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Trade tariffs on Chinese products were meant to do one thing. RAISE YOUR TAXES. It was a really shady move and you all believed it.

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WTF is wrong with Trumptards is there too much wool in their eyes or are they fu(king retarded?

sheep
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WTF is wrong with you? You are the one backing the Globalist cult pedophiles.
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Seriously?

lol

Does it look like they are yielding right now or retaliating?

This isn't a real-estate deal and Trump isn't holding all the cards here.

This is going to end very badly for Trump and the United States..

Trump cannot back down, his ego will not allow it.

CHINA WILL NOT YIELD.

China will continue with 'measured response' and Trump will likely threaten them right into further escalation.

Very fucking stupid in my opinion.
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Hope it was millions... pretty obvious GLP has sold out.

Now that 8chan is down, the remaining counter-theory boards are being targeted... good time to cash in, can't say I blame you.
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Nobody is paying me for my opinion bro.

It's simply, my opinion.

I'm not a blind follower.

I have my own thoughts and opinions.

You're not always going to agree with them.

Why does it matter?

Do you feel like if my opinion doesn't line up with dear leader's I'm going to somehow thwart his efforts?

I'm just one fucking man with a very small message board.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Well then in your opinion... what should our country be doing to address the current imbalance? continue to let China steal our intellectual property at a rate of 100's of billions a year? continue to rape us in trade at $500B+ per year?

Should we let Joe biden take another crack at it?

Should we just put our head in a hole or hide in the closet for the next 20yrs?

What is your opinion then?
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The problem, is that you seem to only puppet the 4am talking point side of "an opinion" lately.

As always the discussion is much more rich than that.

Would at the very least, your opinion align to the fact that a $500b+ annual trade deficit to China is bad?

It's been going on for decades... we have someone working towards addressing it...

I get that in your opinion you do not like his methods... and you are now doing what cnn does by hallucinating an idea that "orange man bad" or that he must be crazy to attempt to combat the economic war that has been waged against the USA for the last several decades.

What actually is your opinion on this economic imbalance outside of "orange man bad"? Keep the status quo?
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why are so many people here rooting for a communist nation?
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Why does anyone root for any of their puppet overlords?

PROGRAMMING.

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Trade tariffs on Chinese products were meant to do one thing. RAISE YOUR TAXES. It was a really shady move and you all believed it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
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4EVA Trumpers cannot understand this.

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Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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Why wouldn't other nations want to sell us stuff?

yourere
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Other nations aren't tooled up to produce what they do at any given moment, especially at the rock bottom prices. Thus we need them for years to come until our manufacturing is back up and running and ohh, we cut hourly wages in half

There's no easy or peaceful way to fix what has been done
 Quoting: Maddrummerboy


Trump is not demanding no trade. He is demanding fair trade.

China can eliminate all tariffs on American imports and Trump will do the same with Chinese imports.

What is wrong with that? Is it worth going to WWIII for China to maintain tariffs on American products?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77950885


They will never do this because of Trump's approach.

It's that simple.
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How long did it take you to think up that answer shit-for-brains?
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why are so many people here rooting for a communist nation?
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Another low IQ statement. Disagreeing with Trump's absurd approach is NOT "rooting for a communist nation". Just the opposite: I am fearful Trump is playing right into China's hands.
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why are so many people here rooting for a communist nation?
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Were not we just expect more from our so called president. It's looking more and more like he is a deep state shill.
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WTF is wrong with Trumptards is there too much wool in their eyes or are they fu(king retarded?

sheep
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They simply aren't smart enough. It really is that simple. This Trump movement truly reflects the declining average US intelligence. :) :)
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Out of curiosity, do either of you have an alternative way to deal with the China problem? Or do you not see a problem?

Not trying to troll, these are genuine questions.
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Yes, get the F off the bloody Twitter and calmly work with the Chinese in an intelligent manner.
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And what is that intelligent manner?
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U.S. 'destroying international order', China media says, after currency-manipulator branding


Hahahahaha
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The Chinks like order, they are linear thinkers. rockon
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Trade tariffs on Chinese products were meant to do one thing. RAISE YOUR TAXES. It was a really shady move and you all believed it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77146202


4EVA Trumpers cannot understand this.
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hesright
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why are so many people here rooting for a communist nation?
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Another low IQ statement. Disagreeing with Trump's absurd approach is NOT "rooting for a communist nation". Just the opposite: I am fearful Trump is playing right into China's hands.
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If two countries are in a trade war and you side against one country that means you are for the other country.
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Why wouldn't other nations want to sell us stuff?

yourere
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933665


Other nations aren't tooled up to produce what they do at any given moment, especially at the rock bottom prices. Thus we need them for years to come until our manufacturing is back up and running and ohh, we cut hourly wages in half

There's no easy or peaceful way to fix what has been done
 Quoting: Maddrummerboy


Trump is not demanding no trade. He is demanding fair trade.

China can eliminate all tariffs on American imports and Trump will do the same with Chinese imports.

What is wrong with that? Is it worth going to WWIII for China to maintain tariffs on American products?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77950885


They will never do this because of Trump's approach.

It's that simple.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



What should he being doing differently?
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Trade tariffs on Chinese products were meant to do one thing. RAISE YOUR TAXES. It was a really shady move and you all believed it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77146202


4EVA Trumpers cannot understand this.
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Bloomberg is fake news tards have entered the chat...
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Trade tariffs on Chinese products were meant to do one thing. RAISE YOUR TAXES. It was a really shady move and you all believed it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77146202


Yes and who and what benefits the most?

Same as it ever was.

The Game™ goes far beyond the spoonfed 'left vs right' politicucked programmed (p)eople paradigm .

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It will become tit for tat, already seeing this by Trump putting tarrifs up to 30 %. It will be bad for the economy of the whole world, Trump will be remembered as Trump the destroyer.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73817748


As for the Chinese? The wonderful, humane, generous Chinese. The wonderful government of Tienanmen Square and, now, Hong Kong?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74827762


As if America is such a peaceful country instigating wars in other parts of the world.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73817748


You won't get an argument from me when it comes to sleazy American public figures like a Hillary cackling "We came, we saw, he died."

Odd how things like that go because I bet you had a soft spot in your heart for her versus any conservative American.

What's that all about?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74827762

I do not like any American president whatsoever, they are all puppets for the cabal.
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Donald Trump is an employee of the US Government.

The trade war agenda was not dreamed up by him.

He was installed as the perfect candidate to implement it.

The agenda is designed to ignite hyperinflation.

For the past 37 years you all have grown accustomed to constantly dropping yield rates.

This is basically finished.

Now constantly rising yield rates is what you all have to become accustomed to.

China has been using it's massive surplus of US Dollars it has been accumulating since the late 1970's to buy up massive amounts of US Treasuries to engineer rates lower and lower the past 37 years.

"The phrase "Nixon goes to China", "Nixon to China", or "Nixon in China" is a historical reference to United States President Richard Nixon's 1972 visit to the People's Republic of China, where he met with Chairman Mao Zedong."

The purpose was the set the stage for opening China up.

"A special economic zone (SEZ) is an area in which the business and trade laws are different from the rest of the country. SEZs are located within a country's national borders, and their aims include increased trade balance, employment, increased investment, job creation and effective administration. "

"In the late 1970s, and especially at the 3rd Plenary Session of the 11th Central Committee of the Communist Party of China in December 1978, the Chinese government initiated its policy of reform and opening up. As a response to the failure of Maoist economy policy that failed to produce economic growth which would allow China to be competitive against not only industrialized nations of the west but also rising regional powers: Japan, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Hong Kong. Officials in Guangdong Province led by Provincial Party Secretary Xi Zhongxun seized the initiative, starting with an investment project in Shekou prepared by Yuan Geng on behalf of the Hong Kong-based China Merchants Steam Navigation Company. This project, initially a ship breaking facility, was approved by Li Xiannian on January 31, 1979. In April 1979, Xi Zhongxun and other Guangdong officials presented in Beijing a proposal to give broader flexibility to the coastal provinces of Guangdong and Fujian to attract foreign investment, with additional exemptions in four cities, namely Shenzhen in the Pearl River Delta region, Zhuhai and Shantou in Guangdong and Xiamen (Amoy) in Fujian Province. For these, Chinese Paramount leader Deng Xiaoping coined the name "special zones" with reference to the designation of another border region during the Chinese Civil War. The proposal was approved on July 15 and the four special zones were officially established on August 26, 1979."

Tomorrow is the 40th anniversary.
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The agenda being implemented was being implemented before the USA existed.

The USA existing was part of the agenda.

You all are are not going to undo the past 4 decades of progression in your lifetime.
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They simply aren't smart enough. It really is that simple. This Trump movement truly reflects the declining average US intelligence. :) :)
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Seems like theres a bunch of chinese paid traitors on this board lately. CCP got their slave price tentacles in people
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My guess is they import shit from China and sell it for their own gain. Trump is squeezing their nut sacks, so they squawk. Those kind of people really don't give a fat shit about a country, they exploit everything and everyone so they can live a life of luxury. Somehow, they will justify it in their mind, all the while, their homeland descends into the abyss.

Invest in the U.S. and you'll be somewhat ok.

Here is some wisdom, those who hold the debt are bag holders and if that debt investment burst, the bag holders get jack shit.

China is holding a lot of bags folks. And wishing they will come out on top is a risky venture.
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Me personally, my company has been hit hard by OUR greedy refineries buying from China. OUR greedy corporations, Schlumberger, Baker Hughes, etc.. setting up manufacturing in China and shipping it back here for pricing that our local machine shops can't compete with. Problem is nothing has changed in Houston for 3 years. It was honestly better under obozo
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As long as the manufacturing is over in China, benefiting only China and a few people at the top of the corporate food chain, nothing will change.

If people would demand these fucking corporations bring back their manufacturing here in the U.S., this shit would end very quickly and America would prosper like never before.

China will implode if U.S. corporations bring back their manufacturing to the homeland and stop buying/importing their shit.

But fuck it, let's offload that to a federal deficit that is exploding in size. In another few years, the deficit will likely be 2+ trillion a year, then shit gets real, with or without China.

The U.S. is subsidizing the world via consuming cheap shit. Their gravy train is coming to end though, either by negotiation or by defaulting on the debt. One way or another, it's not going to last.
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why are so many people here rooting for a communist nation?
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Another low IQ statement. Disagreeing with Trump's absurd approach is NOT "rooting for a communist nation". Just the opposite: I am fearful Trump is playing right into China's hands.
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If two countries are in a trade war and you side against one country that means you are for the other country.
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Who said I was siding for China? I think the current approach my Trump is absurd. This is NOT siding with China. Come on! Think!
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Other nations aren't tooled up to produce what they do at any given moment, especially at the rock bottom prices. Thus we need them for years to come until our manufacturing is back up and running and ohh, we cut hourly wages in half

There's no easy or peaceful way to fix what has been done
 Quoting: Maddrummerboy


Trump is not demanding no trade. He is demanding fair trade.

China can eliminate all tariffs on American imports and Trump will do the same with Chinese imports.

What is wrong with that? Is it worth going to WWIII for China to maintain tariffs on American products?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77950885


They will never do this because of Trump's approach.

It's that simple.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



What should he being doing differently?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76867157


Humbling himself.

He cannot do it.

The world will do it for him.

Last Edited by ^TrInItY^ on 08/25/2019 02:54 PM
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Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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Trump is playing: The Art of the Deal
China is playing: The Art of War


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Do you notice how similar the titles are?

Trump has studied the art of war inside, outside, and upside down.

Why do you think he titled his books after it?
 Quoting: Mental Case


Such bullshit. Trump is incapable of reading a comic book ... "airports" of the War of Independence lol.

"Abzzurd" lmao
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Based on the description of an idiotic liberal? Where truths are lies, lies are truths, good is bad, bad is good?

"Comic book" to people like you therefore means the Encyclopedia Britannia in reality.

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This trade war is like taking medicine...it suck that you have to choke it down but then you get better.

The real question is how long will china let their people starve before they reach a fair deal with the USA?

It's only a matter of time...and hunger is a great motivator!
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Other nations aren't tooled up to produce what they do at any given moment, especially at the rock bottom prices. Thus we need them for years to come until our manufacturing is back up and running and ohh, we cut hourly wages in half

There's no easy or peaceful way to fix what has been done
 Quoting: Maddrummerboy


Trump is not demanding no trade. He is demanding fair trade.

China can eliminate all tariffs on American imports and Trump will do the same with Chinese imports.

What is wrong with that? Is it worth going to WWIII for China to maintain tariffs on American products?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77950885


They will never do this because of Trump's approach.

It's that simple.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



What should he being doing differently?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76867157


If he was genuine he'd be hanging the NWO Banksters behind it all.

Instead he's surrounded himself with them, because he owes his very existence to them.

;)

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China's own citizens are revolting at the moment. He's got American and the citizens of China on his side. Give them a week, and they'll be signing the deal and sending gift baskets. Trump is going to be the president in office when China made their first move toward democracy.
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hahahaha

wow

You don't know Chinese people very well.

They will negotiate but when you start bullying them...

You'll get nothing.

Trump thinks he can bully them into compliance.

Trump isn't very smart.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Yeah well who gives a fuck how Chinese feel?

They need us. We don't need them.

I think our country would be much better off if we cut ties with China completely.

They're an enemy to our nation in many of the same ways as Israel is.
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Seems like theres a bunch of chinese paid traitors on this board lately. CCP got their slave price tentacles in people
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76288827


My guess is they import shit from China and sell it for their own gain. Trump is squeezing their nut sacks, so they squawk. Those kind of people really don't give a fat shit about a country, they exploit everything and everyone so they can live a life of luxury. Somehow, they will justify it in their mind, all the while, their homeland descends into the abyss.

Invest in the U.S. and you'll be somewhat ok.

Here is some wisdom, those who hold the debt are bag holders and if that debt investment burst, the bag holders get jack shit.

China is holding a lot of bags folks. And wishing they will come out on top is a risky venture.
 Quoting: iSwear


Me personally, my company has been hit hard by OUR greedy refineries buying from China. OUR greedy corporations, Schlumberger, Baker Hughes, etc.. setting up manufacturing in China and shipping it back here for pricing that our local machine shops can't compete with. Problem is nothing has changed in Houston for 3 years. It was honestly better under obozo
 Quoting: Maddrummerboy


As long as the manufacturing is over in China, benefiting only China and a few people at the top of the corporate food chain, nothing will change.

If people would demand these fucking corporations bring back their manufacturing here in the U.S., this shit would end very quickly and America would prosper like never before.

China will implode if U.S. corporations bring back their manufacturing to the homeland and stop buying/importing their shit.

But fuck it, let's offload that to a federal deficit that is exploding in size. In another few years, the deficit will likely be 2+ trillion a year, then shit gets real, with or without China.

The U.S. is subsidizing the world via consuming cheap shit. Their gravy train is coming to end though, either by negotiation or by defaulting on the debt. One way or another, it's not going to last.
 Quoting: iSwear


You can't have it both ways ... the folks voted with their pocket books buying the cheap, throw away shit.

Putting that Genie back in the bottle will take 10 years to unwind.
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Trump is not demanding no trade. He is demanding fair trade.

China can eliminate all tariffs on American imports and Trump will do the same with Chinese imports.

What is wrong with that? Is it worth going to WWIII for China to maintain tariffs on American products?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77950885


They will never do this because of Trump's approach.

It's that simple.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



What should he being doing differently?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76867157


If he was genuine he'd be hanging the NWO Banksters behind it all.

Instead he's surrounded himself with them, because he owes his very existence to them.

;)
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Trade tariffs on Chinese products were meant to do one thing. RAISE YOUR TAXES. It was a really shady move and you all believed it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77146202


4EVA Trumpers cannot understand this.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


If I'm reading the article correct, China is not feeling any affect of these tariffs. Instead, it is the US consumer that is carrying the burden of them. Am I understanding this correctly?
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Seriously?

lol

Does it look like they are yielding right now or retaliating?

This isn't a real-estate deal and Trump isn't holding all the cards here.

This is going to end very badly for Trump and the United States..

Trump cannot back down, his ego will not allow it.

CHINA WILL NOT YIELD.

China will continue with 'measured response' and Trump will likely threaten them right into further escalation.

Very fucking stupid in my opinion.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


China can survive because it is not limited to trade with the US and it can manipulate its economy much easier than we can. The Chinese have bought up TRILLIONS in American debt and could collapse the economy at will





GLP