| Users Online Now: 1,027 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 204,498 | |
| Pageviews Today: 341,975 | Threads Today: 106 | Posts Today: 1,689 |
| 03:39 AM | ||
| Users Online Now: 1,027 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 204,498 | |
| Pageviews Today: 341,975 | Threads Today: 106 | Posts Today: 1,689 |
| 03:39 AM | ||
Why does elijah arrive before “ the great and terrible day of the lord”? | |
waterman  User ID: 76803670  United States09/02/2019 07:54 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Fluffy Pancakes User ID: 77973261 United States09/02/2019 08:35 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm pretty sure the phrase, "the Day of the Lord" is referring to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. Trumpets is announcing the coming of the King of Kings. I've read equally convincing exposes on Yeshua having been born on Trumpets or the first day of Sukkot. I am not certain, but due to logical progressions, I lean to Trumpets. Have a good evening! Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76788650  United Kingdom09/02/2019 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Malachi 4:5: Quoting: waterman 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. First we have to determine when the “day of the lord” is. There is a Jewish feast day that is known as rosh hashannah or the feast of trumpets which has many idioms some of them are: 1. The “ day of the lord” 2. The time of Jacobs trouble 3. The day no man knows 4. The birthday of Adam and Eve These are just a few but what we want to focus on is rosh hashannah is known as “the day of the lord” and Elijah will be sent “ before” the day of the lord or before rosh hashannah. Now if elijah is to be sent before rosh hashannah this year it will not give much time for him to ready the bride and more than likely Elijah will lead in the guidance of the bride during the full month of Elul which is the 40 days leading up to the day of atonement and we have already entered the month of Elul this year. The reason elijah shows up without the other witness is because there are 2 kingdoms....the kingdom of judah and the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and elijah will be the representative of the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and will give warning to that kingdom that judgement is coming. To be a truly great representative you should experience what your house will experience. Now if rosh hashannah is the day of judgement for the house of Jacob( Jacobs trouble)then the house of Jacob must be the house/ kingdom that Elijah represents because he is sent to give warning to them( Jacobs trouble).This house of Jacob/ Joseph/ ephraim is none other than the greatest most blessed nation on the earth which is the United States. Now if the house of Jacobs trouble arrives on some rosh Hashanah then the representatives trouble should arrive on the Rosh Hashanah prior to the kingdom of Jacobs trouble. As I see it elijahs trouble will come on rosh hashannah and his addressing the nations should arrive on the following Passover as that is when the jewish watch for him every year and this would be arriving before judgement day rosh hashannah of the kingdom of the same or following year as Passover as I don’t believe elijah will give warning for more than a year or year and a half before God sends judgement. From Isaiah 52 this elijah servant will be greatly marred when he arrives which more than likely will have happened 6 months prior to passover which was rosh hashannah or the time of Jacobs trouble...the representative will experience what his house will experience before the house experiences it Isaiah 52: 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. I love your Avatar Picture waterman.! |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 76803670 United States09/02/2019 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm pretty sure the phrase, "the Day of the Lord" is referring to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes Trumpets is announcing the coming of the King of Kings. I've read equally convincing exposes on Yeshua having been born on Trumpets or the first day of Sukkot. I am not certain, but due to logical progressions, I lean to Trumpets. Have a good evening! Jesus was born on the spring equinox...as lambs are only born during the spring...lambs are only born in the spring and the shepherds were in the fields with the lambs during Jesus birth showing they were watching for the birth of lambs in the spring...also Joseph would have had to have been in Jerusalem if it was the fall feasts. 1:40 - 2:20 minutes lambs only born in spring and Jesus is the lamb of God being born in the spring Last Edited by waterman on 09/02/2019 08:59 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| SuperNowun User ID: 43519268 United States09/02/2019 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73136435 United States09/02/2019 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Malachi 4:5: Quoting: waterman 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. First we have to determine when the “day of the lord” is. There is a Jewish feast day that is known as rosh hashannah or the feast of trumpets which has many idioms some of them are: 1. The “ day of the lord” 2. The time of Jacobs trouble 3. The day no man knows 4. The birthday of Adam and Eve These are just a few but what we want to focus on is rosh hashannah is known as “the day of the lord” and Elijah will be sent “ before” the day of the lord or before rosh hashannah. Now if elijah is to be sent before rosh hashannah this year it will not give much time for him to ready the bride and more than likely Elijah will lead in the guidance of the bride during the full month of Elul which is the 40 days leading up to the day of atonement and we have already entered the month of Elul this year. The reason elijah shows up without the other witness is because there are 2 kingdoms....the kingdom of judah and the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and elijah will be the representative of the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and will give warning to that kingdom that judgement is coming. To be a truly great representative you should experience what your house will experience. Now if rosh hashannah is the day of judgement for the house of Jacob( Jacobs trouble)then the house of Jacob must be the house/ kingdom that Elijah represents because he is sent to give warning to them( Jacobs trouble).This house of Jacob/ Joseph/ ephraim is none other than the greatest most blessed nation on the earth which is the United States. Now if the house of Jacobs trouble arrives on some rosh Hashanah then the representatives trouble should arrive on the Rosh Hashanah prior to the kingdom of Jacobs trouble. As I see it elijahs trouble will come on rosh hashannah and his addressing the nations should arrive on the following Passover as that is when the jewish watch for him every year and this would be arriving before judgement day rosh hashannah of the kingdom of the same or following year as Passover as I don’t believe elijah will give warning for more than a year or year and a half before God sends judgement. From Isaiah 52 this elijah servant will be greatly marred when he arrives which more than likely will have happened 6 months prior to passover which was rosh hashannah or the time of Jacobs trouble...the representative will experience what his house will experience before the house experiences it Isaiah 52: 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. Pretty much put the biggest judgment can of whoop ass we have ever seen and will ever see. Listen and Look around. This place is plagued with bad doctrine all over the place. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77743250 United States09/02/2019 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| The Dove User ID: 35362113 United States09/02/2019 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77949514 United States09/02/2019 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Malachi 4:5: Quoting: waterman 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. First we have to determine when the “day of the lord” is. There is a Jewish feast day that is known as rosh hashannah or the feast of trumpets which has many idioms some of them are: 1. The “ day of the lord” 2. The time of Jacobs trouble 3. The day no man knows 4. The birthday of Adam and Eve These are just a few but what we want to focus on is rosh hashannah is known as “the day of the lord” and Elijah will be sent “ before” the day of the lord or before rosh hashannah. Now if elijah is to be sent before rosh hashannah this year it will not give much time for him to ready the bride and more than likely Elijah will lead in the guidance of the bride during the full month of Elul which is the 40 days leading up to the day of atonement and we have already entered the month of Elul this year. The reason elijah shows up without the other witness is because there are 2 kingdoms....the kingdom of judah and the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and elijah will be the representative of the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and will give warning to that kingdom that judgement is coming. To be a truly great representative you should experience what your house will experience. Now if rosh hashannah is the day of judgement for the house of Jacob( Jacobs trouble)then the house of Jacob must be the house/ kingdom that Elijah represents because he is sent to give warning to them( Jacobs trouble).This house of Jacob/ Joseph/ ephraim is none other than the greatest most blessed nation on the earth which is the United States. Now if the house of Jacobs trouble arrives on some rosh Hashanah then the representatives trouble should arrive on the Rosh Hashanah prior to the kingdom of Jacobs trouble. As I see it elijahs trouble will come on rosh hashannah and his addressing the nations should arrive on the following Passover as that is when the jewish watch for him every year and this would be arriving before judgement day rosh hashannah of the kingdom of the same or following year as Passover as I don’t believe elijah will give warning for more than a year or year and a half before God sends judgement. From Isaiah 52 this elijah servant will be greatly marred when he arrives which more than likely will have happened 6 months prior to passover which was rosh hashannah or the time of Jacobs trouble...the representative will experience what his house will experience before the house experiences it Isaiah 52: 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. Elijah arrives before the great and terrible day of the Lord, because he and Moses are the Two witnesses. This is all about Israel, not the Church. God will be seeking to return them to following himself instead of the Antichrist, who they will be accepting as their Messiah and worshiping as their God. |
| The Dove User ID: 35362113 United States09/02/2019 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12854138 United States09/02/2019 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7828078 United States09/02/2019 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 76803670 United States09/02/2019 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 76803670 United States09/02/2019 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Malachi 4:5: Quoting: waterman 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. First we have to determine when the “day of the lord” is. There is a Jewish feast day that is known as rosh hashannah or the feast of trumpets which has many idioms some of them are: 1. The “ day of the lord” 2. The time of Jacobs trouble 3. The day no man knows 4. The birthday of Adam and Eve These are just a few but what we want to focus on is rosh hashannah is known as “the day of the lord” and Elijah will be sent “ before” the day of the lord or before rosh hashannah. Now if elijah is to be sent before rosh hashannah this year it will not give much time for him to ready the bride and more than likely Elijah will lead in the guidance of the bride during the full month of Elul which is the 40 days leading up to the day of atonement and we have already entered the month of Elul this year. The reason elijah shows up without the other witness is because there are 2 kingdoms....the kingdom of judah and the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and elijah will be the representative of the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and will give warning to that kingdom that judgement is coming. To be a truly great representative you should experience what your house will experience. Now if rosh hashannah is the day of judgement for the house of Jacob( Jacobs trouble)then the house of Jacob must be the house/ kingdom that Elijah represents because he is sent to give warning to them( Jacobs trouble).This house of Jacob/ Joseph/ ephraim is none other than the greatest most blessed nation on the earth which is the United States. Now if the house of Jacobs trouble arrives on some rosh Hashanah then the representatives trouble should arrive on the Rosh Hashanah prior to the kingdom of Jacobs trouble. As I see it elijahs trouble will come on rosh hashannah and his addressing the nations should arrive on the following Passover as that is when the jewish watch for him every year and this would be arriving before judgement day rosh hashannah of the kingdom of the same or following year as Passover as I don’t believe elijah will give warning for more than a year or year and a half before God sends judgement. From Isaiah 52 this elijah servant will be greatly marred when he arrives which more than likely will have happened 6 months prior to passover which was rosh hashannah or the time of Jacobs trouble...the representative will experience what his house will experience before the house experiences it Isaiah 52: 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. Elijah arrives before the great and terrible day of the Lord, because he and Moses are the Two witnesses. This is all about Israel, not the Church. God will be seeking to return them to following himself instead of the Antichrist, who they will be accepting as their Messiah and worshiping as their God. When Paul says that day will not overtake you like a thief talking about the rapture........why won’t it take the bride like a thief? Because elijah will have arrived and they will know the next rosh hashannah will be the harpazo Last Edited by waterman on 09/02/2019 09:59 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76778667 United States09/02/2019 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but you're wrong all the way around. Elijah doesn't return, but the same spirit of Elijah is what we'll see. It will be a time where God sends his people by the Holy Spirit to call for repentance and to stand against false prophets and teachers. Remember that Elijah did this with the prophet's of Ba'al. The only other person in the scriptures who people believed was "Elijah," was John the Baptist. John 1: 21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. John 1: 22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? John 1: 23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.(Isaiah) Matthew 17: 12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Believers are the "voice in the wilderness," saying, "Make straight the way of the Lord." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77547800 United States09/02/2019 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELIJAH was John the Baptist. ELIJAH has come and gone and you new him not. It was then they new he spoke of the Baptist???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7828078 Elijah is to restore all things....John didn’t do that When he/they arrive it won't be a doubt or question about it, the miracles should be like those he did of old for all to see and it should be for the glory of God not for himself or any man. |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 76803670 United States09/02/2019 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELIJAH was John the Baptist. ELIJAH has come and gone and you new him not. It was then they new he spoke of the Baptist???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7828078 Elijah is to restore all things....John didn’t do that When he/they arrive it won't be a doubt or question about it, the miracles should be like those he did of old for all to see and it should be for the glory of God not for himself or any man. If you look for one to do miracles when he comes....you will never see him. Elijah is the representative of the kingdom of ephraim which is the United States. It isn’t until 3 years after the arrival of elijah that he unites with the other witness the representative of the kingdom of Judah and receives power for 1260 days....look for a marred one...not a miracle worker -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76778667 United States09/02/2019 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELIJAH was John the Baptist. ELIJAH has come and gone and you new him not. It was then they new he spoke of the Baptist???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7828078 Elijah is to restore all things....John didn’t do that When he/they arrive it won't be a doubt or question about it, the miracles should be like those he did of old for all to see and it should be for the glory of God not for himself or any man. Elijah in the OT didn't restore all things, but he did restore the truth of the True God to Israel by showing up and challenging to prophets of Ba'al. In that way he restored things. John the Baptist was doing what we'll do in the end. He announced that Jesus the Messiah was coming. Making straight the way of the Lord would be part of restoring all things that belong to God. Remember that there have always been many who refuse to believe. The book of Revelations say the same. Many will not repent. There is a dividing line, and there will be one in the end as well. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76778667 United States09/02/2019 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELIJAH was John the Baptist. ELIJAH has come and gone and you new him not. It was then they new he spoke of the Baptist???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7828078 Elijah is to restore all things....John didn’t do that When he/they arrive it won't be a doubt or question about it, the miracles should be like those he did of old for all to see and it should be for the glory of God not for himself or any man. Elijah in the OT didn't restore all things, but he did restore the truth of the True God to Israel by showing up and challenging to prophets of Ba'al. In that way he restored things. John the Baptist was doing what we'll do in the end. He announced that Jesus the Messiah was coming. Making straight the way of the Lord would be part of restoring all things that belong to God. Remember that there have always been many who refuse to believe. The book of Revelations say the same. Many will not repent. There is a dividing line, and there will be one in the end as well. Also, John the Baptist was calling for repentance and baptizing people. He also stood up against sin, which is the reason he was arrested in the first place before his death. |
| waterman (OP) User ID: 76803670 United States09/02/2019 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When he/they arrive it won't be a doubt or question about it, the miracles should be like those he did of old for all to see and it should be for the glory of God not for himself or any man. Elijah in the OT didn't restore all things, but he did restore the truth of the True God to Israel by showing up and challenging to prophets of Ba'al. In that way he restored things. John the Baptist was doing what we'll do in the end. He announced that Jesus the Messiah was coming. Making straight the way of the Lord would be part of restoring all things that belong to God. Remember that there have always been many who refuse to believe. The book of Revelations say the same. Many will not repent. There is a dividing line, and there will be one in the end as well. Also, John the Baptist was calling for repentance and baptizing people. He also stood up against sin, which is the reason he was arrested in the first place before his death. The purpose of the final Elijah will be 3 things 1 call the people to repentance before judgement comes on Jacob 2 Elijah and the other witness reuniting the 2 kingdoms they represent 3 ushering in the davidic/ levitic kingdom of the millennium....Elijah’s are provided to usher in a new age....John ushered in the age of grace and the final Elijah will usher in the removal of the 2000 year pause button and the continuance of the davidjc/ levitic kingdom as was promised in Jeremiah to last as long as the sun and moon covenant which lasts til the duration of the millennial kingdom Last Edited by waterman on 09/02/2019 10:20 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76579095 United States09/02/2019 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Elijah and another prophet of old come.... they are the 2 witnesses of the Lord spoke of many times. They are here to witness against the Antichrist and help the true Christians of these last days. Most like Elijah and Moses and possibly even Enoch as their is scripture suggesting that even a third prophet appears in Jerusalem. There is no mystery as to why or what or when.... and you don't have to do any fancy smancy math to figure anything out. It's as plain as the nose on your face and written without a need for interpretation. God provides the interpretations in the Scripture. Anyone trying to interpret what God has already provided is just spreading lies and false doctrine. Soon the fallen angels will return. And then the Antichrist will take his throne, for it is Lucifer himself. Not some spiritually possessed man. Super natural events are already upon us with the rise of demonic driven evil. It will be by the Hand of God that His children will be delivered. Interesting times we live in. Many naysayers run around blabbering that there is no God and that anyone that believes in God is wasting their time in some sort of delusional fairy tale. Well, apparently they don't understand current events or even the news. They are truly idiots of the time. They are even spoke of in the Scripture. Yet they can't even see it or recognize it. How unfortunate. Study. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64072172 United States09/02/2019 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| watchman..10001110101 User ID: 64072172 United States09/02/2019 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh people, people, people..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76579095 Elijah and another prophet of old come.... they are the 2 witnesses of the Lord spoke of many times. They are here to witness against the Antichrist and help the true Christians of these last days. Most like Elijah and Moses and possibly even Enoch as their is scripture suggesting that even a third prophet appears in Jerusalem. There is no mystery as to why or what or when.... and you don't have to do any fancy smancy math to figure anything out. It's as plain as the nose on your face and written without a need for interpretation. God provides the interpretations in the Scripture. Anyone trying to interpret what God has already provided is just spreading lies and false doctrine. Soon the fallen angels will return. And then the Antichrist will take his throne, for it is Lucifer himself. Not some spiritually possessed man. Super natural events are already upon us with the rise of demonic driven evil. It will be by the Hand of God that His children will be delivered. Interesting times we live in. Many naysayers run around blabbering that there is no God and that anyone that believes in God is wasting their time in some sort of delusional fairy tale. Well, apparently they don't understand current events or even the news. They are truly idiots of the time. They are even spoke of in the Scripture. Yet they can't even see it or recognize it. How unfortunate. Study. Thou has spoken truly, friend. Time can be measured by observing Axis precession with respect to the Stars, which began with Noah's Flood: There are 1656 Years from Creation to Flood; the Equinox sunrise in Taurus processed into Aries soon after the Flood (ca 2348BC). Each astronomical age lasts 2160 Years; Adding 2160 years Aries to Pisces + 2160 Years Pisces to Aquarius, Sargon I 'the Great' was born at the Taurus-Aries boundary and declared "Legitimate King" at 21, the biblical age of adulthood and accountability. 1656 + 2160 + 2160 + 21 yields roughly 5996 Years. In other words, the last 1260 day Great Tribulation spoken of by the LORD in Daniel & Revelation is soon to transpire. "From this room, your grace, I govern not only Paris, but China - not only china, but the whole world - and all without anyone to know how it is done."-17th Jesuit Superior General Michaelangelo Tamburini, speaking to 6th Duke of Brissac, Charles Timoléon Louis, 1720. “Take Ignatius Loyola . . . Ignatius was only thirty when he made his pilgrimage and wrote the ‘Spiritual Exercises.’ . . . And Acquaviva, Acquaviva was General of the Jesuits, ruled every cabinet in Europe, and colonised America before he was thirty-seven. What a career! The secret sway of Europe! That was indeed a position!” -Benjamin Disraeli, K.G., F.R.S. (1804–1881; Edomite-British Prime Minister of U.K. Twice, Co-Founder of the Conservative Party, Known for Influential Voice in World Affairs & Created One-Nation Conservatism of Tory Democracy, 33° Illuminized Freemason, Knight of the Order of the Garter, Fellow of the Invisible College/Royal Society, Rosicrucian, Exploited the Assassination of Napoleon III, of France with Jesuit-Assassins Felice Orsini, S.J. & Giuseppe Mazzini, S.J., & Author of Coningsby: Or the New Generation. Watchman of the LORD, Revealing the Truth of the Mystery of Iniquity. Thread: TOP SECRET document says MASONS and the JESUIT SUPERIOR GENERAL influenced WW2! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67511492 United States09/02/2019 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Malachi 4:5: Quoting: waterman 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. First we have to determine when the “day of the lord” is. There is a Jewish feast day that is known as rosh hashannah or the feast of trumpets which has many idioms some of them are: 1. The “ day of the lord” 2. The time of Jacobs trouble 3. The day no man knows 4. The birthday of Adam and Eve These are just a few but what we want to focus on is rosh hashannah is known as “the day of the lord” and Elijah will be sent “ before” the day of the lord or before rosh hashannah. Now if elijah is to be sent before rosh hashannah this year it will not give much time for him to ready the bride and more than likely Elijah will lead in the guidance of the bride during the full month of Elul which is the 40 days leading up to the day of atonement and we have already entered the month of Elul this year. The reason elijah shows up without the other witness is because there are 2 kingdoms....the kingdom of judah and the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and elijah will be the representative of the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and will give warning to that kingdom that judgement is coming. To be a truly great representative you should experience what your house will experience. Now if rosh hashannah is the day of judgement for the house of Jacob( Jacobs trouble)then the house of Jacob must be the house/ kingdom that Elijah represents because he is sent to give warning to them( Jacobs trouble).This house of Jacob/ Joseph/ ephraim is none other than the greatest most blessed nation on the earth which is the United States. Now if the house of Jacobs trouble arrives on some rosh Hashanah then the representatives trouble should arrive on the Rosh Hashanah prior to the kingdom of Jacobs trouble. As I see it elijahs trouble will come on rosh hashannah and his addressing the nations should arrive on the following Passover as that is when the jewish watch for him every year and this would be arriving before judgement day rosh hashannah of the kingdom of the same or following year as Passover as I don’t believe elijah will give warning for more than a year or year and a half before God sends judgement. From Isaiah 52 this elijah servant will be greatly marred when he arrives which more than likely will have happened 6 months prior to passover which was rosh hashannah or the time of Jacobs trouble...the representative will experience what his house will experience before the house experiences it Isaiah 52: 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. In the end times, Elijah starts his ministry to announce the coming man-child ministry which is a group of people who are the first fruits of the latter rain, the culmination of Christ in You the Hope of Glory. According to pattern, there are announcers who alert the world beforehand like John the Baptist did. The white-horse rider is not satan, it is the man-child ministry. The arrows are not there because they have been sent forth to their tasks. Apostle means "one sent forth" like an arrow. This happens before and at the very start of the 7-year tribulation period. The great and terrible Day of the Lord is the 8th year after th 7-years are finished (Compare, Mt 24:29, Acts 2:20). The sun and moon darkening is the divider between the two. So the announcers for the man-child ministry go into the world before the tribulation and the Day of the Lord is after the tribulation period. I have lots of proof about this very topic written up with power point slides showing the timing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77639918 United States09/02/2019 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but you're wrong all the way around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76778667 Elijah doesn't return, but the same spirit of Elijah is what we'll see. It will be a time where God sends his people by the Holy Spirit to call for repentance and to stand against false prophets and teachers. Remember that Elijah did this with the prophet's of Ba'al. The only other person in the scriptures who people believed was "Elijah," was John the Baptist. John 1: 21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. John 1: 22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? John 1: 23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.(Isaiah) Matthew 17: 12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Believers are the "voice in the wilderness," saying, "Make straight the way of the Lord." There is much wisdom In this post. |
| Base12 User ID: 77648299 United States09/02/2019 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67511492 United States09/02/2019 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Malachi 4:5: Quoting: waterman 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. First we have to determine when the “day of the lord” is. There is a Jewish feast day that is known as rosh hashannah or the feast of trumpets which has many idioms some of them are: 1. The “ day of the lord” 2. The time of Jacobs trouble 3. The day no man knows 4. The birthday of Adam and Eve These are just a few but what we want to focus on is rosh hashannah is known as “the day of the lord” and Elijah will be sent “ before” the day of the lord or before rosh hashannah. Now if elijah is to be sent before rosh hashannah this year it will not give much time for him to ready the bride and more than likely Elijah will lead in the guidance of the bride during the full month of Elul which is the 40 days leading up to the day of atonement and we have already entered the month of Elul this year. The reason elijah shows up without the other witness is because there are 2 kingdoms....the kingdom of judah and the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and elijah will be the representative of the kingdom of Joseph/ ephraim and will give warning to that kingdom that judgement is coming. To be a truly great representative you should experience what your house will experience. Now if rosh hashannah is the day of judgement for the house of Jacob( Jacobs trouble)then the house of Jacob must be the house/ kingdom that Elijah represents because he is sent to give warning to them( Jacobs trouble).This house of Jacob/ Joseph/ ephraim is none other than the greatest most blessed nation on the earth which is the United States. Now if the house of Jacobs trouble arrives on some rosh Hashanah then the representatives trouble should arrive on the Rosh Hashanah prior to the kingdom of Jacobs trouble. As I see it elijahs trouble will come on rosh hashannah and his addressing the nations should arrive on the following Passover as that is when the jewish watch for him every year and this would be arriving before judgement day rosh hashannah of the kingdom of the same or following year as Passover as I don’t believe elijah will give warning for more than a year or year and a half before God sends judgement. From Isaiah 52 this elijah servant will be greatly marred when he arrives which more than likely will have happened 6 months prior to passover which was rosh hashannah or the time of Jacobs trouble...the representative will experience what his house will experience before the house experiences it Isaiah 52: 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. In the end times, Elijah starts his ministry to announce the coming man-child ministry which is a group of people who are the first fruits of the latter rain, the culmination of Christ in You the Hope of Glory. According to pattern, there are announcers who alert the world beforehand like John the Baptist did. The white-horse rider is not satan, it is the man-child ministry. The arrows are not there because they have been sent forth to their tasks. Apostle means "one sent forth" like an arrow. This happens before and at the very start of the 7-year tribulation period. The great and terrible Day of the Lord is the 8th year after th 7-years are finished (Compare, Mt 24:29, Acts 2:20). The sun and moon darkening is the divider between the two. So the announcers for the man-child ministry go into the world before the tribulation and the Day of the Lord is after the tribulation period. I have lots of proof about this very topic written up with power point slides showing the timing. One edit to what I wrote just above: By Elijah, I am referring to the spirit of Elijah, the mantle of Elijah which John the Baptist had in announcing Jesus at that time. Not a literal physical Elijah from Old Testament times. The end-times Elijah role is like the John the Baptist role in Jesus day. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67511492 United States09/02/2019 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| OnTheFence User ID: 75522163 United States09/03/2019 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Nemesis8 The Greatest Light User ID: 75311439 United States09/03/2019 12:15 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will not be able to know, when the mods on this board are anti Christian. They ban words to fool you. Read the elucidation here: [link to nemesis8.com (secure)]  Last Edited by Nemesis8 on 09/03/2019 12:15 AM "Fiat Lux et Veritas" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77200969 United States09/03/2019 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
