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When did people get so big?? Observations from the grocery store.

 
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..."People today are taller, on average, than their ancestors
100 years ago. This is true for every country in the world.
But how much have human heights changed, and how does this
vary across the world?

If we compare adult men born in 1996 versus those born a
century earlier – men who had reached the age of 18 in 2014
versus 1914 – we see that the global mean height for men
increased from 162 to 171 centimeters (cm) tall. For women,
this increased from 151 cm to 159 cm."...

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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
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I am 6 foot 165lbs.
Perfect medically for my height. I always have people tell me I'm too skinny, or the skinny guy.

Nope, your just fat!

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You're shrinking op. It's cool though I am too. It comes with getting old.
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
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Worse than that
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price is a whole volume on the subject. He says grasshopper legs are also a sign of malnutrition.

Frances Pottenger MD wrote Pottenger's Cats and both volumes are required reading if you have children. We are fast approaching a catastrophe and no one is taking care of business.
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For whatever reason I really noticed it yesterday morning at the grocery store. The people were huge, not just overweight, but tall. I am an over 50 woman and stand at about five feet tall with a medium build.

When I was in high school 80-83 it seemed the tallest girls were about 5’7” or 8” and I remember my friend on the boys basketball team was the tallest at 6’4”. There were only a few overweight kids, and they weren’t obese, but chubby. I went to school in what would be considered rural SC and our school was about 60% white to 40% black (as an aside, there were no racial issues at all as I remember it and everyone got along).

I first noticed super big people about 10 years ago on a visit home while in a bar. The bar was full of what looked to be college kids and as I was trying to leave a girl stood up in front of me and all I saw was her butt. She must have been 7’ feet tall, and she was big. I was shocked, so much so, I still remember it. I felt bad for her, actually, and imagined it had to be uncomfortable as she kind of lumbered out in front of me.

So yesterday morning we’re in the city doing our shopping at Kroger, we’re mostly there for produce and dairy and a few odds and ends, and the store is busy. It was one of those days where it seems everyone is blocking the aisles or standing in front of what I need, and the energy felt rushed, like there wasn’t enough for everyone. Approaching the diary section I was cut off by a tall, obese woman with a huge buggy (shopping cart) and stopped and stared, every person in the diary section was huge, like over 6 feet tall and fat. The women were big, the men were bigger, and the children were well on their way to being bigger than their parents. What in the hell?

Being small has its advantages and I slithered in and retrieved the butter (not margarine) I was seeking, and we got out of there as fast as possible. Hubby and I talked about it on the way home, reminiscing of what we remembered from our youth and how people have changed. He went to school in New England and said there was only one fat kid in his high school.

Now everywhere you look you see giant people, not just overweight, but tall. I don’t recall ever being aware of my small stature until the last decade, and at 5’1” there were shorter people than me in my dealings, but now I rarely see them and when I do they are older.

It’s easy to see that we are evolving to be bigger, looking at uniforms and dresses from the civil war era shows they we have gotten larger, and even looking at sewing patterns from the 1960s show that women have gotten bigger. I wonder how much of that is a natural event, and how much is from the bad food, water, and prescriptions.

The people I saw yesterday are not healthy, and it was funny, or scary, that I saw one average sized person and she stood out. The young woman of a normal size stood out because she was the only one in the store who looked healthy.
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


I am 6 foot 165lbs.
Perfect medically for my height. I always have people tell me I'm too skinny, or the skinny guy.

Nope, your just fat!
 Quoting: 12-34


No muscle
When I was 18 I was 6 ft 1/2 inch and 195 pounds
I did chores after school and was NOT fat.
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For whatever reason I really noticed it yesterday morning at the grocery store. The people were huge, not just overweight, but tall. I am an over 50 woman and stand at about five feet tall with a medium build.

When I was in high school 80-83 it seemed the tallest girls were about 5’7” or 8” and I remember my friend on the boys basketball team was the tallest at 6’4”. There were only a few overweight kids, and they weren’t obese, but chubby. I went to school in what would be considered rural SC and our school was about 60% white to 40% black (as an aside, there were no racial issues at all as I remember it and everyone got along).

I first noticed super big people about 10 years ago on a visit home while in a bar. The bar was full of what looked to be college kids and as I was trying to leave a girl stood up in front of me and all I saw was her butt. She must have been 7’ feet tall, and she was big. I was shocked, so much so, I still remember it. I felt bad for her, actually, and imagined it had to be uncomfortable as she kind of lumbered out in front of me.

So yesterday morning we’re in the city doing our shopping at Kroger, we’re mostly there for produce and dairy and a few odds and ends, and the store is busy. It was one of those days where it seems everyone is blocking the aisles or standing in front of what I need, and the energy felt rushed, like there wasn’t enough for everyone. Approaching the diary section I was cut off by a tall, obese woman with a huge buggy (shopping cart) and stopped and stared, every person in the diary section was huge, like over 6 feet tall and fat. The women were big, the men were bigger, and the children were well on their way to being bigger than their parents. What in the hell?

Being small has its advantages and I slithered in and retrieved the butter (not margarine) I was seeking, and we got out of there as fast as possible. Hubby and I talked about it on the way home, reminiscing of what we remembered from our youth and how people have changed. He went to school in New England and said there was only one fat kid in his high school.

Now everywhere you look you see giant people, not just overweight, but tall. I don’t recall ever being aware of my small stature until the last decade, and at 5’1” there were shorter people than me in my dealings, but now I rarely see them and when I do they are older.

It’s easy to see that we are evolving to be bigger, looking at uniforms and dresses from the civil war era shows they we have gotten larger, and even looking at sewing patterns from the 1960s show that women have gotten bigger. I wonder how much of that is a natural event, and how much is from the bad food, water, and prescriptions.

The people I saw yesterday are not healthy, and it was funny, or scary, that I saw one average sized person and she stood out. The young woman of a normal size stood out because she was the only one in the store who looked healthy.
 Quoting: Turtle Flower


I can explain this:

calories, our diet has a lot more of them now, easier and cheaper. That explains why kids today are bigger and adults and fat.. cut the calories or get more active or even both.
 Quoting: Rosicrucian1 76025956


Calories isn't the problem exactly the problem. After all its just a unit of energy.
The issue regarding size is growth hormones and steroids in milk/dairy/beef/chicken.
Obesity is caused by 2 things, fat and processed sugar.
You cut both those out of your diet, you could eat 10,000 calories a day and not gain weight..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76195662


Cut out fat? You're an idiot. You'll go into "Rabbit Starvation". Your body doesn't need carbohydrates to function (it can use gluconeogenesis for the minute amounts needed by the brain and run the rest on ketone bodies); it does, however require fat for the brain and hormone production. Please don't spread dangerous misinformation.
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same here OP and im your age as well.
there were NO fat kids at my schools growing up (Florida), or i should say very few.
it just wasnt a thing like it is now.

im not sure what it is doing it, other than something IN the food supply that everyone seems to be ingesting.
i have escaped the fat epidemic because i taught myself since i was little to eat only once a day.
it was much harder back then but now im older its one of the best things i think i have EVER done.

my own children (5) have been bitten.
the two oldest (dif father) are still skinny.
they will probably never have the issues the other three do.
idk what i fed them to make them so large but it happened once they left home.
this has taught me that it isnt the body we love but the person.
ive learned to love them no matter how big because lord knows SOMETHING is going on.
and no its not healthy.
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My family has mostly escaped it, luckily, although we have had some weight issues. I have always fought my weight, but now with menopause behind me it seems to have settled down.

I don't drink sodas, quit alcohol, on no prescriptions, eat little carbs, and basically have one big meal a day - meat and veggies. Raise my own chickens for eggs, and grow a garden every summer.

I can't believe how much soda and soft drinks and sugary drinks I see in people's buggies.
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You sound exactly like me ! I'm in Alabama, raised on the great lakes.you should see the fat people down here!!!!
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My boys are in high school . The girls are all over weight and look horrid .


The ones that are in shape are cell phone addicts and nasty .


I would not want to be a teen . it's slim Pickens trying to find a decent girl with some ethics .

My boys are handsome . The 17 year old is discouraged .

He can't stand fake girls and that's all there is he say's .
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Find him a nice homeschooled girl.

Get him involved with an instrument...lots of great kids in orchestra

Or have him take a supplemental college class. Girls tend to be more calmed down in college
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The movie, Wall-e showed a future with loads of big, fat humans...
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Carbs kill.
I am SNOWIE. WELCOME TO THE NEW ICE AGE. TRY NOT TO STARVE.
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And dumbed down is correct to...I have a neighbor who's in his early twenties, graduated from local public school here, who cannot read or write...he's morbidly obese, like 400-500 lbs, walks around carrying a two liter of mountain dew eveeywhere..his parents were also ignorant and morbidly obese, died from diabetes in 40s lol. Hes right on track to do the same. He lives with a friend, they treat him like a slave, he does dishes, changes diapers, etc...ofcourse they all live in a crappy trailor.
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The same situation is in Europe but people here are not so morbidly obese.
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My 2 year old looks 4 or 5 years.
But so do 2 of her cousins so I think it’s genetic. I only ate organic while pregnant with her and she was born with huge fat thighs and they’re still huge. Must be from a lot of nutrients and evolution.
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Must be from a lot of nutrients and evolution?

Retardation runs in your genetics too.
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When is the last time you were in Vegas? It's a whole city of obese walmart shoppers.

As far as the height thing I think it's natural evolution. The taller people stand out, get noticed, reproduce and have bigger kids. The food and water wasnt poisoned a hundred years ago like it is now and people were already getting taller. I've got friends who live in the historic section of St. Augustine (the oldest city in the country) and their house is referred to as 'the hobbit house'. She's 4'8", and he's 5'2". The house is perfect for them at over 200 years old you can tell how much shorter everyone was back then. I'm 6'3" and I have to duck through every door frame and in the bathroom I have to piss with my neck sideways and head against the ceiling!

The obese factor is definitely nefarious in nature. Maybe we are being plumped up for a harvest. If the "elite" plan was less than that they would have went a route that wouldn't have a population of cows consuming every natural resource to sustain their overweight bodies.
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I'm more worried there will be any masculine and moral young men when my daughter is older.


However, the nephilim thing is getting out of hand.



They go together -- corruption of all flesh.


Time for another flood.
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
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Exactly.

And add to it how our bodies react to GMOs and you get these huge people. As the years go by we will see these folks dying at a much younger age. All in the name of greed, making a whole nation sick. Then big pharma and corporate modern medicine make an even bigger killing. We are being sorely used.
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This ^^^.

Bigger isn't necessarily healthier.
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For whatever reason I really noticed it yesterday morning at the grocery store. The people were huge, not just overweight, but tall. I am an over 50 woman and stand at about five feet tall with a medium build.

When I was in high school 80-83 it seemed the tallest girls were about 5’7” or 8” and I remember my friend on the boys basketball team was the tallest at 6’4”. There were only a few overweight kids, and they weren’t obese, but chubby. I went to school in what would be considered rural SC and our school was about 60% white to 40% black (as an aside, there were no racial issues at all as I remember it and everyone got along).

I first noticed super big people about 10 years ago on a visit home while in a bar. The bar was full of what looked to be college kids and as I was trying to leave a girl stood up in front of me and all I saw was her butt. She must have been 7’ feet tall, and she was big. I was shocked, so much so, I still remember it. I felt bad for her, actually, and imagined it had to be uncomfortable as she kind of lumbered out in front of me.

So yesterday morning we’re in the city doing our shopping at Kroger, we’re mostly there for produce and dairy and a few odds and ends, and the store is busy. It was one of those days where it seems everyone is blocking the aisles or standing in front of what I need, and the energy felt rushed, like there wasn’t enough for everyone. Approaching the diary section I was cut off by a tall, obese woman with a huge buggy (shopping cart) and stopped and stared, every person in the diary section was huge, like over 6 feet tall and fat. The women were big, the men were bigger, and the children were well on their way to being bigger than their parents. What in the hell?

Being small has its advantages and I slithered in and retrieved the butter (not margarine) I was seeking, and we got out of there as fast as possible. Hubby and I talked about it on the way home, reminiscing of what we remembered from our youth and how people have changed. He went to school in New England and said there was only one fat kid in his high school.

Now everywhere you look you see giant people, not just overweight, but tall. I don’t recall ever being aware of my small stature until the last decade, and at 5’1” there were shorter people than me in my dealings, but now I rarely see them and when I do they are older.

It’s easy to see that we are evolving to be bigger, looking at uniforms and dresses from the civil war era shows they we have gotten larger, and even looking at sewing patterns from the 1960s show that women have gotten bigger. I wonder how much of that is a natural event, and how much is from the bad food, water, and prescriptions.

The people I saw yesterday are not healthy, and it was funny, or scary, that I saw one average sized person and she stood out. The young woman of a normal size stood out because she was the only one in the store who looked healthy.
 Quoting: Turtle Flower


I can explain this:

calories, our diet has a lot more of them now, easier and cheaper. That explains why kids today are bigger and adults and fat.. cut the calories or get more active or even both.
 Quoting: Rosicrucian1 76025956


Calories isn't the problem exactly the problem. After all its just a unit of energy.
The issue regarding size is growth hormones and steroids in milk/dairy/beef/chicken.
Obesity is caused by 2 things, fat and processed sugar.
You cut both those out of your diet, you could eat 10,000 calories a day and not gain weight..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76195662


Cut out fat? You're an idiot. You'll go into "Rabbit Starvation". Your body doesn't need carbohydrates to function (it can use gluconeogenesis for the minute amounts needed by the brain and run the rest on ketone bodies); it does, however require fat for the brain and hormone production. Please don't spread dangerous misinformation.
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I blame growth hormones in meat, HFCS, other bad dietary choices, and lack of exercise.
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You're shrinking op. It's cool though I am too. It comes with getting old.
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chuckle

That's okay, I never desired to be taller. It's easier to hide when you're little, lol.

My dad used to tell me that men liked little women, not amazons. Of course my dad was only about 5'9" born in 1924.
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Everuthing is processed poison now.gmo corn,soy, wheat, all soaked in round up, I in virtually everything...nothing safe except home grown things, organic. Those farmers got what they deserved, poisoning Americans decades with their Monsanto garbage..Monsanto is responsible for most of it. Ignorance in the population prevails, people have time for football and trash on tv but not educating themselves.
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typo they are large now but only chubby when i had them.
once they left, balloon city.
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Beer.
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Residule metabolites from GH or test found in meat cannot, and are not causing the eaters to get big. False premise by those that have an agenda, ie hormone free industry.
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Funny how you mostly see this in America. Don’t really see it in most countries. Physical state reflects mental state. Country is dirty too compared to most countries. Just telling it how it is. So get mad with your usual ‘oh you don’t like it get the fuck out’ cliche. It’s my country too, and I feel embarrassed living with you dumb fat asses who can barely pass an algebra test and still have the nerve to bitch and complain from your easy chair while flipping channels on the tv with your mouth open like you did something with your life. *sips juice box quietly >_>*.
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You are just NOW noticing this?
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I have noticed this for quite some time! Another thing I have noticed is a lot of men young and old look like they're 8 months pregnant other wise they don't look much overweight/fat. It's weird seeing this I bet they haven't seen their feet in years!

I agree with those that said there is all kinds of crud in our foods may very well be a contributing factor along with
little or no exercise!
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GMO.

Food less food.
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


I am 6 foot 165lbs.
Perfect medically for my height. I always have people tell me I'm too skinny, or the skinny guy.

Nope, your just fat!
 Quoting: 12-34


No muscle
When I was 18 I was 6 ft 1/2 inch and 195 pounds
I did chores after school and was NOT fat.
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I'm 6' 3" and 225 lbs... and I am most definitely not fat.
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I have noticed this for quite some time! Another thing I have noticed is a lot of men young and old look like they're 8 months pregnant other wise they don't look much overweight/fat. It's weird seeing this I bet they haven't seen their feet in years!

I agree with those that said there is all kinds of crud in our foods may very well be a contributing factor along with
little or no exercise!
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It's due to obesity. Russian scientist found that skin and fat in excess contributed to hormone release in humans and was considered another organ.
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Carbs kill.
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Yes, I don't think carbs are good for you, I can sure tell a difference in how I feel when I eat them.

I rarely eat carbs but was craving a piece of pizza yesterday, figured I buy the premade crust and add good things - organic tomatoes, broccoli, beef, and good cheese, it was awful. I felt awful after eating a slice, throwing the rest away today. I hate to waste food, but no, I'm not eating that. Not even feeding the crust to the dog or chickens, that ain't good for no-body.
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