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When did people get so big?? Observations from the grocery store.

 
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High fructose corn syrup in everything. I thought I was chubby as a teenager (according to my aunt) but look at my pictures now and think, no, I was not. Why did I let that bother me. It was because everyone else in the family was super super thin. I had a 22 inch waist. These fat teenagers nowdays wear yoga pants and emphasize every bulge on their body.
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Nope... once and for all, trace metabolites do not cause the same effect as the raw compound. It's a misnomer.
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So once a hormone is metabolized/converted by the body it no longer effects another animal that eats it.

Right?
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No it does not
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Growth hormone does pass through into milk. This is the supposed reason for so many precocious children now,
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No, no. No..bullshit. TA converts to weak 5a... doesnt do shit in human consumption studies.
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I am in the same age group, high school in Florida and only a couple of fat (not obese) kids in a school of 1500.

It is the growth hormones in dairy and meat, coupled with the appetite stimulants in processed food. High calorie beverages (Big Gulps, frou frou coffee drinks) make it worse.

My diet is primarily organic vegan, though I do eat organic meat, dairy and eggs on occasion. I drink maybe 2 sodas a year. When I visit the US, I am usually the one with the healthiest weight wherever I go. I really feel this on my flights, as I am usually the smallest of my seatmates whose girth spreads into my precious seat space.

I try to have compassion, as I can see the population is controlled by eugenicists. It is difficult to break away from their control.
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Once again weak metabolites dont do shit!!!
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
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Those mammalian hormones denature (turn to fat) at 140 degrees F. If you cook your meat you have zero effect from the hormones. So no.
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
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Those mammalian hormones denature (turn to fat) at 140 degrees F. If you cook your meat you have zero effect from the hormones. So no.
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Probably when they started packing all of our meat products full of growth hormones to maximize profits... that’d be my guess.
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Yes, that is bad.

We try to buy organic grass fed meats, and accept donations from our friends who hunt.

We don't buy our meat from Kroger.
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I bought grass fed beef from uswellnessmeats, and I had dropped one in the garage, found it four days later and the stuff was still bright red and had no stink to it. I threw it all out. I don't know what they are putting in the meats but it will not rot anymore and neither will dairy products. Chicken is a joke as it is dipped in bleach, put a chicken to boil and the steam smells just like bleach.
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Bread and buns seem to take forever to mold anymore as well.
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Yes, I have noticed this. Also some produce doesn't rot, it just kind of dries out or something.
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The population is being poisoned. The food is no longer optimally nutritional. Keto diet is optimal.

Glyphosate herbicide residue contamination, Genetically Modified Products, High Fructose Corn Syrup, and Hydrogenated transfat oils ect... aid in low body metabolism and fat conversation. Remarkably some people are genetically immune to the toxins in the food supply.




Dr. Robert Lustig is an endocrinologist and professor of pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology at the University of California-San Francisco. In this video, he sits down with CrossFit’s Rory McKernan to explain sugar’s toxicity, outline the stakes of sugar consumption and offer suggestions for addressing the ongoing sugar crisis.

“Sugar is toxic,” Lustig explains. “It proffers a set of biochemical alterations that are detrimental to human health—unrelated to its calories.”

In this way, Lustig says, sugar “is very much like alcohol,” and chronic metabolic diseases associated with alcohol are becoming prevalent in children with high-sugar diets.

When asked about the state of pediatric medicine in the United States, Lustig says, “We have a problem.”

Because the food industry has negatively influenced nutrition science for the last 45 years, many people still abide by the mistaken belief that a healthy diet is attained by regulating calories and saturated fat. This misconception has led to a rise in chronic metabolic diseases such as Type 2 diabetes in adult and youth populations.

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Good information. I find I feel my best on the keto diet.
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i have noticed this on visits to the usa and canada ... while there are a few extra-large here in britain the phenomenon really does not appear to have taken hold here, and over in europe proper i have not seen any evidence of this at all
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Yep.

On the Dorian thread, a couple was posting from somewhere in Disneyland.

My jaw dropped. The people in the stores and outside were staggeringly overweight - I'd say 70% - 80% of them.

Here, I'd say, maybe, 5% have that problem.

I know, from people who have visited the USA as tourists, that servings in eateries and restaurants are at least double in size, and sometimes much! much bigger, than servings here.

Perhaps, that's got something to do with it?
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Food companies figured out how to generate food famine brains that keep consumers coming back for more=high profits....pizza, chips, cookies, soda...fat people are hooked on these products and their brains are hardwired for famine.

Food needs to stop being about profit. Grocery stores should be socialistic. Humans don't need food abundance. You're a better person when you eat less but eat better choices..
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The fat part comes from the government pushing high carb diets of grains and sugar for the last 50 years. It was supposed to be healthy but it was just the opposite.
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Chicken nugget hormones.
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All I see is short, wide people..
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The fat part comes from the government pushing high carb diets of grains and sugar for the last 50 years. It was supposed to be healthy but it was just the opposite.
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Grain's never been healthy. It's a filler.
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I am in the same age group, high school in Florida and only a couple of fat (not obese) kids in a school of 1500.

It is the growth hormones in dairy and meat, coupled with the appetite stimulants in processed food. High calorie beverages (Big Gulps, frou frou coffee drinks) make it worse.

My diet is primarily organic vegan, though I do eat organic meat, dairy and eggs on occasion. I drink maybe 2 sodas a year. When I visit the US, I am usually the one with the healthiest weight wherever I go. I really feel this on my flights, as I am usually the smallest of my seatmates whose girth spreads into my precious seat space.

I try to have compassion, as I can see the population is controlled by eugenicists. It is difficult to break away from their control.
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Once again weak metabolites dont do shit!!!
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Pretty sure you are just a DARPA bot, as your statement makes no sense. Are you trying to falsely claim that metabolites have no effect on body chemistry?

Metabolites are the intermediate end products of the metabolism. "The term metabolite is usually restricted to small molecules. Metabolites have various functions, including fuel, structure, signaling, stimulatory and inhibitory effects on enzymes, catalytic activity of their own (usually as a cofactor to an enzyme), defense, and interactions with other organisms (e.g. pigments, odorants, and pheromones). A primary metabolite is directly involved in normal "growth", development, and reproduction."

"A secondary metabolite is not directly involved in those processes, but usually has an important ecological function."

"The metabolome forms a large network of metabolic reactions, where outputs from one enzymatic chemical reaction are inputs to other chemical reactions."

"Metabolites from chemical compounds, whether inherent or pharmaceutical, are formed as part of the natural biochemical process of degrading and eliminating the compounds."

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Food additives

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Food supply is massively poisoned with chemicals that cause body's hormones to go crazy, which is causing people to grow to crazy sizes... people may be larger, but they are NOT healthier. As they age, their bodies begin to implode on themselves.

However, there is this disturbing element of the SIZE FETISH that is very apparent in women today. They all want TALL men, so another reason people are larger today is because women are EUGENICALLY selecting tall men to breed with. They subconsciously think that this will yield tall offspring, and while it does if both male and female are tall, if the woman is a shorty herself, the kid has almost an equal chance of inheriting the short gene from the mother, which is why short people have not been bred out.

But i believe the first reason is the more alarming reason. People's hormones levels are so out of control, I can almost look at people and see the chemical swamp that is their endocrine system under the surface of their skin. These large people are incredibly unbalanced, and it leads to chronic conditions like arthritis, the diabbeetus, obesity.

I'd rather be short man than these hulking monster men whose physical health declines sharply in their 30's...
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Omg the bigotry wreaks in this thread.
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Bigotry?

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The weight part is mostly from us replacing good saturated fats with 'vegetable ' oils. After ten years of studying healthy diets I just came across some science that explains whet is happening when you eat foods high in linolic acid. It's a theory that explains how different cultures were thin even when some were high carb and others were high in fat. Soybean and other seed oils are in nearly everything now.
I could find and post some links but I'm usually late to threads and the discussion is probably about over.
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For whatever reason I really noticed it yesterday morning at the grocery store. The people were huge, not just overweight, but tall. I am an over 50 woman and stand at about five feet tall with a medium build.

When I was in high school 80-83 it seemed the tallest girls were about 5’7” or 8” and I remember my friend on the boys basketball team was the tallest at 6’4”. There were only a few overweight kids, and they weren’t obese, but chubby. I went to school in what would be considered rural SC and our school was about 60% white to 40% black (as an aside, there were no racial issues at all as I remember it and everyone got along).

I first noticed super big people about 10 years ago on a visit home while in a bar. The bar was full of what looked to be college kids and as I was trying to leave a girl stood up in front of me and all I saw was her butt. She must have been 7’ feet tall, and she was big. I was shocked, so much so, I still remember it. I felt bad for her, actually, and imagined it had to be uncomfortable as she kind of lumbered out in front of me.

So yesterday morning we’re in the city doing our shopping at Kroger, we’re mostly there for produce and dairy and a few odds and ends, and the store is busy. It was one of those days where it seems everyone is blocking the aisles or standing in front of what I need, and the energy felt rushed, like there wasn’t enough for everyone. Approaching the diary section I was cut off by a tall, obese woman with a huge buggy (shopping cart) and stopped and stared, every person in the diary section was huge, like over 6 feet tall and fat. The women were big, the men were bigger, and the children were well on their way to being bigger than their parents. What in the hell?

Being small has its advantages and I slithered in and retrieved the butter (not margarine) I was seeking, and we got out of there as fast as possible. Hubby and I talked about it on the way home, reminiscing of what we remembered from our youth and how people have changed. He went to school in New England and said there was only one fat kid in his high school.

Now everywhere you look you see giant people, not just overweight, but tall. I don’t recall ever being aware of my small stature until the last decade, and at 5’1” there were shorter people than me in my dealings, but now I rarely see them and when I do they are older.

It’s easy to see that we are evolving to be bigger, looking at uniforms and dresses from the civil war era shows they we have gotten larger, and even looking at sewing patterns from the 1960s show that women have gotten bigger. I wonder how much of that is a natural event, and how much is from the bad food, water, and prescriptions.

The people I saw yesterday are not healthy, and it was funny, or scary, that I saw one average sized person and she stood out. The young woman of a normal size stood out because she was the only one in the store who looked healthy.
 Quoting: Turtle Flower


Your observation about height is a great one. I've noticed how half the shoppers are obese but didn't notice their heights until you mentioned it now.

As Scrump so accurately pointed out, growth hormones has to be the culprit.

As for weight, there are a string of things. The latest contributor, and it is the biggest, are our exposure to cell towers and Smart 'Beaters."

The positively charged ions slow our cilia down, leading to sluggish digestion. They also inactivate our ATP, so we become tired. When we are tired, we tend to eat fast food and junk food.
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What state are you in? Where Im at, all the people are shrinking. I see the kids that get off the bus from High School , they are as short as elementary school kids

I have a woman friend whose 5'5, She says she went to Walmart, every corner she went around, she was eye to eye with all grown men, yes many were Mexican but many were white men too, she asked why all these men are short
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I'm in SC.

Yes, I have seen a lot of hispanic men who are very short, like my height short.
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Well which is it?

Are people getting bigger or smaller lol?
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For whatever reason I really noticed it yesterday morning at the grocery store. The people were huge, not just overweight, but tall. I am an over 50 woman and stand at about five feet tall with a medium build.

When I was in high school 80-83 it seemed the tallest girls were about 5’7” or 8” and I remember my friend on the boys basketball team was the tallest at 6’4”. There were only a few overweight kids, and they weren’t obese, but chubby. I went to school in what would be considered rural SC and our school was about 60% white to 40% black (as an aside, there were no racial issues at all as I remember it and everyone got along).

I first noticed super big people about 10 years ago on a visit home while in a bar. The bar was full of what looked to be college kids and as I was trying to leave a girl stood up in front of me and all I saw was her butt. She must have been 7’ feet tall, and she was big. I was shocked, so much so, I still remember it. I felt bad for her, actually, and imagined it had to be uncomfortable as she kind of lumbered out in front of me.

So yesterday morning we’re in the city doing our shopping at Kroger, we’re mostly there for produce and dairy and a few odds and ends, and the store is busy. It was one of those days where it seems everyone is blocking the aisles or standing in front of what I need, and the energy felt rushed, like there wasn’t enough for everyone. Approaching the diary section I was cut off by a tall, obese woman with a huge buggy (shopping cart) and stopped and stared, every person in the diary section was huge, like over 6 feet tall and fat. The women were big, the men were bigger, and the children were well on their way to being bigger than their parents. What in the hell?

Being small has its advantages and I slithered in and retrieved the butter (not margarine) I was seeking, and we got out of there as fast as possible. Hubby and I talked about it on the way home, reminiscing of what we remembered from our youth and how people have changed. He went to school in New England and said there was only one fat kid in his high school.

Now everywhere you look you see giant people, not just overweight, but tall. I don’t recall ever being aware of my small stature until the last decade, and at 5’1” there were shorter people than me in my dealings, but now I rarely see them and when I do they are older.

It’s easy to see that we are evolving to be bigger, looking at uniforms and dresses from the civil war era shows they we have gotten larger, and even looking at sewing patterns from the 1960s show that women have gotten bigger. I wonder how much of that is a natural event, and how much is from the bad food, water, and prescriptions.

The people I saw yesterday are not healthy, and it was funny, or scary, that I saw one average sized person and she stood out. The young woman of a normal size stood out because she was the only one in the store who looked healthy.
 Quoting: Turtle Flower


Your observation about height is a great one. I've noticed how half the shoppers are obese but didn't notice their heights until you mentioned it now.

As Scrump so accurately pointed out, growth hormones has to be the culprit.

As for weight, there are a string of things. The latest contributor, and it is the biggest, are our exposure to cell towers and Smart 'Beaters."

The positively charged ions slow our cilia down, leading to sluggish digestion. They also inactivate our ATP, so we become tired. When we are tired, we tend to eat fast food and junk food.
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For the last fing time, GH is NOT THE ISSUE.
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I am in the same age group, high school in Florida and only a couple of fat (not obese) kids in a school of 1500.

It is the growth hormones in dairy and meat, coupled with the appetite stimulants in processed food. High calorie beverages (Big Gulps, frou frou coffee drinks) make it worse.

My diet is primarily organic vegan, though I do eat organic meat, dairy and eggs on occasion. I drink maybe 2 sodas a year. When I visit the US, I am usually the one with the healthiest weight wherever I go. I really feel this on my flights, as I am usually the smallest of my seatmates whose girth spreads into my precious seat space.

I try to have compassion, as I can see the population is controlled by eugenicists. It is difficult to break away from their control.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Once again weak metabolites dont do shit!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65408061


Pretty sure you are just a DARPA bot, as your statement makes no sense. Are you trying to falsely claim that metabolites have no effect on body chemistry?

Metabolites are the intermediate end products of the metabolism. "The term metabolite is usually restricted to small molecules. Metabolites have various functions, including fuel, structure, signaling, stimulatory and inhibitory effects on enzymes, catalytic activity of their own (usually as a cofactor to an enzyme), defense, and interactions with other organisms (e.g. pigments, odorants, and pheromones). A primary metabolite is directly involved in normal "growth", development, and reproduction."

"A secondary metabolite is not directly involved in those processes, but usually has an important ecological function."

"The metabolome forms a large network of metabolic reactions, where outputs from one enzymatic chemical reaction are inputs to other chemical reactions."

"Metabolites from chemical compounds, whether inherent or pharmaceutical, are formed as part of the natural biochemical process of degrading and eliminating the compounds."

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Tell me genius, how does a weak 5a metabolite alter the receptors of said consumer through 2nd hand ingestion via meat? It doesn't.
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High glycemic diets
Fast Food availability
School lunches no longer fresh homemade to semi homemade food
Not enough time to cook fresh homemade to semi homemade food
Not drinking enough water
Steroids in food & medicine
Working more hours therefore less time for hobbies & exercise
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What state are you in? Where Im at, all the people are shrinking. I see the kids that get off the bus from High School , they are as short as elementary school kids

I have a woman friend whose 5'5, She says she went to Walmart, every corner she went around, she was eye to eye with all grown men, yes many were Mexican but many were white men too, she asked why all these men are short
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I'm in SC.

Yes, I have seen a lot of hispanic men who are very short, like my height short.
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Well which is it?

Are people getting bigger or smaller lol?
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People are getting bigger, IQs are getting smaller
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GMO's

Genetically Modified Obesities!
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GMO's

Genetically Modified Obesities!
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I vote gmo... no long term genetic impact. Hormones, no. Gmo, yes
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Tall but sickly and weak. They won’t last long.
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GMO's

Genetically Modified Obesities!
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I vote gmo... no long term genetic impact. Hormones, no. Gmo, yes
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No long term studies on host genetic impact... clarification.
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The weight part is mostly from us replacing good saturated fats with 'vegetable ' oils. After ten years of studying healthy diets I just came across some science that explains whet is happening when you eat foods high in linolic acid. It's a theory that explains how different cultures were thin even when some were high carb and others were high in fat. Soybean and other seed oils are in nearly everything now.
I could find and post some links but I'm usually late to threads and the discussion is probably about over.
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A great video explaining the seed oil problem by Dr. Michael Eades

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