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WTC 7 is still the key to the 911 fairy tale -- 911 was an inside job!

 
jj johns  (OP)

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I think it's obvious flight 93 was supposed to hit tower 7
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i think so too, but you never know what else failed that day.
it doesn't matter though, because, 2 planes, three steel buildings.


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Because terrorists planning 911 wouldn't have planted explosives... they would just fly planes into buildings and that was it?

Did you actually talk to Kalid Sheik Mohammed about the masterplan?
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i made this specifically for this post. was waiting for it to get approved.

911wasaninsidejo
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jj johns  (OP)

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Because terrorists planning 911 wouldn't have planted explosives... they would just fly planes into buildings and that was it?

Did you actually talk to Kalid Sheik Mohammed about the masterplan?
 Quoting: MissCleo


do you think that KSM was able to do so? really. and you believe his confession that was electric shocked and tortured into him.

and bin laden, i guess you believe him too.

sad


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study from, Dr. J. Leroy Hulsey
Professor of Civil Engineering, University of Alaska Fairbanks


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At the end he was going through their views on the actual collapse, and it was cut off. I wonder if there is a complete video of the talk. ?
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jj johns  (OP)

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Because terrorists planning 911 wouldn't have planted explosives... they would just fly planes into buildings and that was it?

Did you actually talk to Kalid Sheik Mohammed about the masterplan?
 Quoting: MissCleo


i replied already, but you, someone i've given green a few times, and respect, kind of upsets me.

you really believe the official story. have you looked into al the claims? i know i have. as mentioned in my OP, i have great ties to nyc. don't let my flag fool you.

either way cheers


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thanks for the 5 stars. anyone have anything to add?
 Quoting: jj johns


We already know this . Architects and engineers for 9/11 truth know this . congress knows this , the president knows this and no one is going to do a goddamn thing due to the implications of consequences as well as most in the know at the upper echelon level were / are involved in the ongoing plot as 9/11 was just the opening act of the ongoing rollout of the Novus Ordo Seclorum .
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yes, we all here know this, but there are still way too many that don't even know a third building fell that day, without getting hit by a plane. that's why wtc7 is the key to opening up people's minds. cheers
 Quoting: jj johns


Architects and engineers for 911 truth are a small group of scam artist taking you 'believers" for a moneyball ride. Why don't you try to read some truth like this:
[link to www.nist.gov (secure)]
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2 words that destroy everything on that site .

ACCELERATED FREEFALL .
jj johns  (OP)

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the shills are pissing me off, so i pinned this myself. never pinned my own thread before. but, really, these fuckers are out in full force today.


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study from, Dr. J. Leroy Hulsey
Professor of Civil Engineering, University of Alaska Fairbanks


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At the end he was going through their views on the actual collapse, and it was cut off. I wonder if there is a complete video of the talk. ?
 Quoting: syncro


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Because terrorists planning 911 wouldn't have planted explosives... they would just fly planes into buildings and that was it?

Did you actually talk to Kalid Sheik Mohammed about the masterplan?
 Quoting: MissCleo


do you think that KSM was able to do so? really. and you believe his confession that was electric shocked and tortured into him.

and bin laden, i guess you believe him too.

sad
 Quoting: jj johns


Yep. KSM and the thousand of his support crew that confessed. I believe them.

Do you know any of them personally? And basing your bullshit on that information?
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jj johns  (OP)

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Because terrorists planning 911 wouldn't have planted explosives... they would just fly planes into buildings and that was it?

Did you actually talk to Kalid Sheik Mohammed about the masterplan?
 Quoting: MissCleo


do you think that KSM was able to do so? really. and you believe his confession that was electric shocked and tortured into him.

and bin laden, i guess you believe him too.

sad
 Quoting: jj johns


Yep. KSM and the thousand of his support crew that confessed. I believe them.

Do you know any of them personally? And basing your bullshit on that information?
 Quoting: MissCleo



i addressed you again in a previous post here. if you actually believe the official story, i have nothing that i can say to you.


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Because terrorists planning 911 wouldn't have planted explosives... they would just fly planes into buildings and that was it?

Did you actually talk to Kalid Sheik Mohammed about the masterplan?
 Quoting: MissCleo


do you think that KSM was able to do so? really. and you believe his confession that was electric shocked and tortured into him.

and bin laden, i guess you believe him too.

sad
 Quoting: jj johns


Yep. KSM and the thousand of his support crew that confessed. I believe them.

Do you know any of them personally? And basing your bullshit on that information?
 Quoting: MissCleo



i addressed you again in a previous post here. if you actually believe the official story, i have nothing that i can say to you.
 Quoting: jj johns


And what was your role in the investigation?
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The truth about nine 11 will come out, it's all part of the plan.

The take down was obvious, sloppy by design but so it would eventually be exposed.

To learn that your own government let happen, or participated in, this attack will have a traumatizing and demoralizing affect on Americans.

That's what they want.

To bring the U.S. to her knees.

Keep in mind the Bushed own a massive ranch in Paraguay. Once exposed they may self-exile to South America. Seems to be a pattern with Nazis, head to S. America.
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[link to www.nist.gov (secure)]

You believe in total bull and insult the 3000 and more innocent human beings lost that day. You disgust me to the bone.
 Quoting: Bill 77840699


oh go fuck yourself with a thorn bush shill
 Quoting: jj johns


Insults are the lowest form of arguments. You would be better off with a coherent counterpoint. However, all you can do is throw around derogatory comments. I'll pray for you.

Also, I'm not saying he is right or that you are wrong. I am commenting as a person reading through the comments and telling you how people can discredit themselves.
jj johns  (OP)

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do you think that KSM was able to do so? really. and you believe his confession that was electric shocked and tortured into him.

and bin laden, i guess you believe him too.

sad
 Quoting: jj johns


Yep. KSM and the thousand of his support crew that confessed. I believe them.

Do you know any of them personally? And basing your bullshit on that information?
 Quoting: MissCleo



i addressed you again in a previous post here. if you actually believe the official story, i have nothing that i can say to you.
 Quoting: jj johns


And what was your role in the investigation?
 Quoting: MissCleo

an informed citizen


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COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

NIST Concluded that the 3 buildings were the ONLY steel buildings in all of human history to be destroyed by fire due to a new law of thermal dynamics which defied physics.

Get that straight, mkay!

Extreme Muslim, box-knife wielding "SUPER PILOTS" (according to the ACTUAL PILOTS WHO FLEW THOSE PLANES FOR YRS)...were the perps.

Now, go back to sleep for another 18 yrs.
"The cowards never start and the weak die along the way"
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COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

NIST Concluded that the 3 buildings were the ONLY steel buildings in all of human history to be destroyed by fire due to a new law of thermal dynamics which defied physics.

Get that straight, mkay!

Extreme Muslim, box-knife wielding "SUPER PILOTS" (according to the ACTUAL PILOTS WHO FLEW THOSE PLANES FOR YRS)...were the perps.

Now, go back to sleep for another 18 yrs.
 Quoting: White_Hat


Bravo.
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First building collapsed at 9:59 am.
Last building collapsed at 5:21 pm
= 7h22m

Prince William's age that day ; 7022 days
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yes, we all here know this, but there are still way too many that don't even know a third building fell that day, without getting hit by a plane. that's why wtc7 is the key to opening up people's minds. cheers
 Quoting: jj johns


Architects and engineers for 911 truth are a small group of scam artist taking you 'believers" for a moneyball ride. Why don't you try to read some truth like this:
[link to www.nist.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77840699


or read the new report that just came out. fuck off shill. did you happen to see the .gov in the nist url? yeah, their conclusion was pancake due to heat from fire. explain the freefall. you can't fuckface
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11. In a video, it appears that WTC 7 is descending in free fall, something that would not occur in the structural collapse that you describe. How can NIST ignore basic laws of physics?

In the draft WTC 7 report (released Aug. 21, 2008; available at [link to www.nist.gov] NIST stated that the north face of the building descended 18 stories (the portion of the collapse visible in the video) in 5.4 seconds, based on video analysis of the building collapse. This time period is 40 percent longer than the 3.9 seconds this process would have taken if the north face of the building had descended solely under free fall conditions. During the public comment period on the draft report, NIST was asked to confirm this time difference and define the reasons for it in greater detail.

To further clarify the descent of the north face, NIST recorded the downward displacement of a point near the center of the roofline from first movement until the north face was no longer visible in the video. Numerical analyses were conducted to calculate the velocity and acceleration of the roofline point from the time-dependent displacement data. The instant at which vertical motion of the roofline first occurred was determined by tracking the numerical value of the brightness of a pixel (a single element in the video image) at the roofline. This pixel became brighter as the roofline began to descend because the color of the pixel started to change from that of the building façade to the lighter color of the sky.

The approach taken by NIST is summarized in NIST NCSTAR Report 1A, Section 3.6, and detailed in NIST NCSTAR Report 1-9, Section 12.5.3.

The analyses of the video (both the estimation of the instant the roofline began to descend and the calculated velocity and acceleration of a point on the roofline) revealed three distinct stages characterizing the 5.4 seconds of collapse:

Stage 1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): acceleration less than that of gravity (i.e., slower than free fall).
Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)
Stage 3 (4.0 to 5.4 seconds): decreased acceleration, again less than that of gravity
This analysis showed that the 40 percent longer descent time—compared to the 3.9 second free fall time—was due primarily to Stage 1, which corresponded to the buckling of the exterior columns in the lower stories of the north face. During Stage 2, the north face descended essentially in free fall, indicating negligible support from the structure below. This is consistent with the structural analysis model, which showed the exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above. In Stage 3, the acceleration decreased as the upper portion of the north face encountered increased resistance from the collapsed structure and the debris pile below.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77840699


bsmeter2

Quoting from:

NIST NCSTAR 1a 20 November 2008
Chapter 4
4.2 SUMMARY Objective 1:Determine why and how WTC 7 collapsed.

The observed descent time of the upper 18 stories of the north face of WTC 7 (the floors
clearly visible in the video evidence) was 40 percent greater than the computed free fall time.
A more detailed analysis of the descent of the north face found three stages: (1) a slow
descent with acceleration less than that of gravity that corresponded to the buckling of the
exterior columns at the lower floors, (2) a freefall descent over approximately eight stories at
gravitational acceleration for approximately 2.25 s
, and (3) a decreasing acceleration as the
north face encountered resistance from the structure below.


NIST have yet to satisfactorily account for this period of freefall in their model. If a model doesn't match observed facts it should be thrown out. The only possible explanation for any period of freefall is that ALL resistance has been removed. Did 8 floors of the building suddenly not exist? Must be magic fires.
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First building collapsed at 9:59 am.
Last building collapsed at 5:21 pm
= 7h22m

Prince William's age that day ; 7022 days
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77873998


wow. 7022 calories in 10 Whoppers too!
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First building collapsed at 9:59 am.
Last building collapsed at 5:21 pm
= 7h22m

Prince William's age that day ; 7022 days
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77873998


wow. 7022 calories in 10 Whoppers too!
 Quoting: MissCleo


Ignore it to your ignorance
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Same group of people are behind every FF and the religtards refuse to take their blinders off.


another do
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COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

NIST Concluded that the 3 buildings were the ONLY steel buildings in all of human history to be destroyed by fire due to a new law of thermal dynamics which defied physics.

Get that straight, mkay!

Extreme Muslim, box-knife wielding "SUPER PILOTS" (according to the ACTUAL PILOTS WHO FLEW THOSE PLANES FOR YRS)...were the perps.

Now, go back to sleep for another 18 yrs.
 Quoting: White_Hat


Btw, that new phenomena is called "Thermal Expansion" (copyright 2008, NIST)

Although, the guy that annoinced the findings for NIST has since gone on to DOUBT that official conclusion....

Go figure, another truther...

We haven't before or after EVER SEEN ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS "PHENOMENON"

But maybe with a bit of luck, we can duplicate it?
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[link to themillenniumreport.com]
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COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

NIST Concluded that the 3 buildings were the ONLY steel buildings in all of human history to be destroyed by fire due to a new law of thermal dynamics which defied physics.

Get that straight, mkay!

Extreme Muslim, box-knife wielding "SUPER PILOTS" (according to the ACTUAL PILOTS WHO FLEW THOSE PLANES FOR YRS)...were the perps.

Now, go back to sleep for another 18 yrs.
 Quoting: White_Hat


i assume you're not addressing this to me. i know this already.


I'm mad as hell...

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Not only that but 7 too had just finished a long, expensive safety 'renovation' almost immediately before.

It was to reinforce it for being NYC disaster command center.
This was out of Giulianis own mouth the very first day.

Get TUCKER to Ask him how a recently 'hardened' and 'reinforced' command center supposedly collapsed from broken windows and a waste paper basket fire.

And while your at it, ask if the work was warrentied, so the state can get its 50 million dollar cost back.
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