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I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist

 
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I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
I used to be a deeply empathic person. I felt everything from everyone. I acted in sensitivity and kindness all of the time. My sensitivity was a true gift and a cornerstone of my identity.

A couple of years ago I was working as a counselor for children through a non-profit agency. I was very skilled at connecting with children, very good at identifying the happenings in their development, and pretty good at leading effective therapy sessions. Most of the children I worked with had been through some type of trauma, typically abuse or neglect as the hands of unskilled parents and care givers. I worked with the parents and did training sessions on how they could develop better parenting skills.

The inter generational trauma ran deep and I was working with these issues every day. I was emotionally and mentally exhausted every day. I then went through training with my job to become a forensic interviewer. This meant that I would interview children who had been through abuse and neglect to gather the proper information for law enforcement and the court.

This part of the job broke my empathy. In the helping professions it is called “empathy burnout”. That’s what happened. My deep empathic nature absorbed so much horrific trauma that it caught fire, burned to ash, and was gone.

At first I just felt supremely exhausted, like the type of exhaustion that people take long sabbaticals to address. I wasn’t really feeling anything other than very tired.

I came back from that exhaustion, and the empathy I had before is gone. I actually feel like I might be narcissistic now.

I *can* turn the empathy on, and somatically feel the emotion around me if I consciously choose to, but it’s not my default like it used to be. I don’t want to turn it on anyway. I almost always choose not to because Life feels so much lighter and easier without it. I’m learning what it feels like to be happy and unburdened by the emotions of the people around me. It feels great.

I quit the entire career path and have no intention of ever returning to it. I have no shame in leveraging the more superficial things about myself to improve my life. I now leverage my looks, my people skills, and my ability to charm an ego to get what I want. I would have never done that before as I was all about depth and meaning. I work jobs that help absolutely no one, but that come with zero emotional responsibility.

I feel unburdened now. I didn’t realize that being an empath carried such a heavy weight with it. It’s a bit surprising to me how this happened, but I don’t really feel like I could or would choose to go back at this point.

I think empathy and narcissism have some kind of root commonality, and I haven’t quite figured out what it is. Two sides of the same coin almost.
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09/20/2019 08:18 PM
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Re: I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
Stop bullshitting us with lies. You're no one special especially if you can't feel shit. Self centered prick.
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Re: I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
I used to be a deeply empathic person. I felt everything from everyone. I acted in sensitivity and kindness all of the time. My sensitivity was a true gift and a cornerstone of my identity.

A couple of years ago I was working as a counselor for children through a non-profit agency. I was very skilled at connecting with children, very good at identifying the happenings in their development, and pretty good at leading effective therapy sessions. Most of the children I worked with had been through some type of trauma, typically abuse or neglect as the hands of unskilled parents and care givers. I worked with the parents and did training sessions on how they could develop better parenting skills.

The inter generational trauma ran deep and I was working with these issues every day. I was emotionally and mentally exhausted every day. I then went through training with my job to become a forensic interviewer. This meant that I would interview children who had been through abuse and neglect to gather the proper information for law enforcement and the court.

This part of the job broke my empathy. In the helping professions it is called “empathy burnout”. That’s what happened. My deep empathic nature absorbed so much horrific trauma that it caught fire, burned to ash, and was gone.

At first I just felt supremely exhausted, like the type of exhaustion that people take long sabbaticals to address. I wasn’t really feeling anything other than very tired.

I came back from that exhaustion, and the empathy I had before is gone. I actually feel like I might be narcissistic now.

I *can* turn the empathy on, and somatically feel the emotion around me if I consciously choose to, but it’s not my default like it used to be. I don’t want to turn it on anyway. I almost always choose not to because Life feels so much lighter and easier without it. I’m learning what it feels like to be happy and unburdened by the emotions of the people around me. It feels great.

I quit the entire career path and have no intention of ever returning to it. I have no shame in leveraging the more superficial things about myself to improve my life. I now leverage my looks, my people skills, and my ability to charm an ego to get what I want. I would have never done that before as I was all about depth and meaning. I work jobs that help absolutely no one, but that come with zero emotional responsibility.

I feel unburdened now. I didn’t realize that being an empath carried such a heavy weight with it. It’s a bit surprising to me how this happened, but I don’t really feel like I could or would choose to go back at this point.

I think empathy and narcissism have some kind of root commonality, and I haven’t quite figured out what it is. Two sides of the same coin almost.
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Did you take time off? How did the switch happen? Many empaths are feeling overwhelmed.
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09/20/2019 08:21 PM
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Re: I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
This sounds more like borderline with touches of narcissistic tendencies. Just a dart in the dark.
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09/20/2019 08:30 PM

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I take it you're well aware you're NOT going to be getting a lot of empathy for your fairly pointless post.

To reinforce your thoughts about yourself? Your post is EXACTLY what a narcissist would write so you may be spot on.

So please don't look for a lot of "you were so magnificent to work with kids" or "how awful for you, to burn yourself out so early in a promising career", it's not gonna happen.
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Re: I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
I used to be a deeply empathic person. I felt everything from everyone. I acted in sensitivity and kindness all of the time. My sensitivity was a true gift and a cornerstone of my identity.

A couple of years ago I was working as a counselor for children through a non-profit agency. I was very skilled at connecting with children, very good at identifying the happenings in their development, and pretty good at leading effective therapy sessions. Most of the children I worked with had been through some type of trauma, typically abuse or neglect as the hands of unskilled parents and care givers. I worked with the parents and did training sessions on how they could develop better parenting skills.

The inter generational trauma ran deep and I was working with these issues every day. I was emotionally and mentally exhausted every day. I then went through training with my job to become a forensic interviewer. This meant that I would interview children who had been through abuse and neglect to gather the proper information for law enforcement and the court.

This part of the job broke my empathy. In the helping professions it is called “empathy burnout”. That’s what happened. My deep empathic nature absorbed so much horrific trauma that it caught fire, burned to ash, and was gone.

At first I just felt supremely exhausted, like the type of exhaustion that people take long sabbaticals to address. I wasn’t really feeling anything other than very tired.

I came back from that exhaustion, and the empathy I had before is gone. I actually feel like I might be narcissistic now.

I *can* turn the empathy on, and somatically feel the emotion around me if I consciously choose to, but it’s not my default like it used to be. I don’t want to turn it on anyway. I almost always choose not to because Life feels so much lighter and easier without it. I’m learning what it feels like to be happy and unburdened by the emotions of the people around me. It feels great.

I quit the entire career path and have no intention of ever returning to it. I have no shame in leveraging the more superficial things about myself to improve my life. I now leverage my looks, my people skills, and my ability to charm an ego to get what I want. I would have never done that before as I was all about depth and meaning. I work jobs that help absolutely no one, but that come with zero emotional responsibility.

I feel unburdened now. I didn’t realize that being an empath carried such a heavy weight with it. It’s a bit surprising to me how this happened, but I don’t really feel like I could or would choose to go back at this point.

I think empathy and narcissism have some kind of root commonality, and I haven’t quite figured out what it is. Two sides of the same coin almost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77926646


Did you take time off? How did the switch happen? Many empaths are feeling overwhelmed.
 Quoting: Interesting 74858684


My job was more than I could handle, and Know now that I should have protected myself from that.

I think I burnt out my serotonin and when it came back, protection mechanisms had formed.

I didn't take time off..I quit suddenly and started working an office job where I didn't have to deal with people. I should have been doing that the whole time.

empaths do process people differently than people with average mirror neuron activity. It is exhausting and many probably don't realize it. Empaths shouldn't work in highly emotional occupations.
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09/20/2019 08:54 PM

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Gripe all you want people. I'm an empathy and I 100% understand what the OP means.
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09/20/2019 09:03 PM
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I think you just kicked in some heavy protection automatic protocols in your brain.

This is the same thing people with PTSD experience.

Trauma changes you.

There is a therapist I know who changed the way therapy works, because recalling the traumatic experience re-traumatizes the patient and the therapist.

Empaths actually take on the energetic experience, especially that of children.

I think it is ok to not do that anymore.

I used to want to be a paramedic when I was younger. The cosmos then had me experience what it was like to be the first to the scene at a couple car accidents, and I knew that I couldn't do it.

I shifted to other types of healing studies.

I had almost the same thing happen last year for different reasons..

It took me almost a year to feel again.

These injuries take longer to heal than a cut or broken bone.

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I take it you're well aware you're NOT going to be getting a lot of empathy for your fairly pointless post.

To reinforce your thoughts about yourself? Your post is EXACTLY what a narcissist would write so you may be spot on.

So please don't look for a lot of "you were so magnificent to work with kids" or "how awful for you, to burn yourself out so early in a promising career", it's not gonna happen.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Right. The "no fucks given" response to how people feel about me is a new experience and it is a joy. Such contrast to always caring how people are feeling and thinking.

Right again, The whole point of my post was to tell a personal story about how life changed me. Life changes all of us, sometimes in weird ways. You can't relate because maybe life has never changed you.

My career path is extremely boring and average. Even when I was a studied professional, I was making paltry money, so I would have never called it promising. It was a poor choice for me, clearly.
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I felt the OP was being open and honest. A person can only give so much to their own detriment. Helping others as a full-time job can be soul-crushing. It's a reductive process for those that give. Maybe it is time for you OP to simply take care of themselves. That isn't narcissism. It's survival of your empathy. It will resurface after you collect yourself. Hopefully. You need a much deserved time out.
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Also, you aren't a narcissist for taking care of yourself.

Only a martyr would not.

hf
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09/20/2019 09:06 PM
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Gripe all you want people. I'm an empathy and I 100% understand what the OP means.
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Thank you
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Re: I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
I think you just kicked in some heavy protection automatic protocols in your brain.

This is the same thing people with PTSD experience.

Trauma changes you.

There is a therapist I know who changed the way therapy works, because recalling the traumatic experience re-traumatizes the patient and the therapist.

Empaths actually take on the energetic experience, especially that of children.

I think it is ok to not do that anymore.

I used to want to be a paramedic when I was younger. The cosmos then had me experience what it was like to be the first to the scene at a couple car accidents, and I knew that I couldn't do it.

I shifted to other types of healing studies.

I had almost the same thing happen last year for different reasons..

It took me almost a year to feel again.

These injuries take longer to heal than a cut or broken bone.

hugs
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Thank you for this post and for framing it as a healing process. I was traumatized by the repeated exposure to the trauma of others. It has changed me in ways I don't fully understand yet. I appreciate these words.
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09/20/2019 09:22 PM
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Re: I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
Ehh, the word your looking for is "borderline sociopath", or "full blown sociopath".

One way to rejuvenate the soul, is to listen to the Word. I found that listening to audio recordings of "Christ's sayings" is the best way to rejuvenate the soul.

Don't waste your time listening to a sermon or something, that won't do any good for you.






Also, cry.

When an empath burns, they don't turn into a sociopath, they just exist in agonizing torment.

Empaths, can drown in their own tears. All those tear's they refuse to cry, can then freeze dry, freezing you into a block of ice. Both drowning you in your own tears, and keeping you from realizing it.

You may feel the way that you feel, eventually though, something will break through the ice, a moment of extreme empathy overload. Unless your grounded, it will overwhelm you.

So take this time to heal, and cry. You need to get it out before it eventually destroys you.
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09/20/2019 09:23 PM
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Makes sense , have lived my entire life for others, and its me time now. I dont care what anyone thinks anymore. Period.
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Re: I was an empath and I turned into a narcissist
Doctors and nurses go through this all the time as part of their careers. You're nothing special, OP.





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