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Is the earth flat? I dont know what to think anymore

 
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I’m leaning more towards round, though I’m not 100% sure either
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The plan has always been to get people to feel as if there is no God, and we're simply a spinning ball in an infinite space.

It's flat.
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What does flat or round Earth have to do with God?
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The plan has always been to get people to feel as if there is no God, and we're simply a spinning ball in an infinite space.

It's flat.
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what does the shape have to do with whether or not god exists?

why not have people believe theres no god on a flat earth?

nothing about a globe earth spinning in infinite space necessarily or specifically negates a creator god anyway.

this is the worst, bottom of the barrel conspiracy ever concocted IMHO, probably concocted and promulgated by the CIA TBQH
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They want one world government. To unite all nations they need alien attack from another planet. Reagan even said in speech to U.N. To implement such hoax they need people to believe in space, planets, space travel and aliens.
Rockets need an atmosphere to push off of. Just like all forms of travel, we push off something. They had stated space is a vacuum so rockets will not work. Since rockets cannot go straight up into space, they need to invent orbit so that when asked why rockets always move horizontally, they say orbit. In order to have orbit you need a globe earth.. A lie needs another lie to cover the previous lie. It’s just and endless chain of lies. Once you have realized each individual lie, you can see the agenda in which place
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I watched yhat flat earth documentary on netflix. Someone bought a flat earth testing group a $10,000 gyro.

The gyro showed the earth was circular in three seperate tests.

My conclusion was that once you include expensive equipment and extensive testing, flat earth doesn't hold up.

Flat earth only seems plausible on paper and weak testing.
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I’m leaning more towards round, though I’m not 100% sure either
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The thing us, flat earthers haven't disproved anything. They haven't tried to go into space, try to disprove a north or south pole, or anything concrete. They do horizon tests that have failed on many occasions and their most expensive test (a $10,000 jyro) that i know of failed too.
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With technology today they should be able to show1 just 1 video of the earth spinning on its axis.
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Yea why not pool money to build their own rocket with camera into space?
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I watched yhat flat earth documentary on netflix. Someone bought a flat earth testing group a $10,000 gyro.

The gyro showed the earth was circular in three seperate tests.

My conclusion was that once you include expensive equipment and extensive testing, flat earth doesn't hold up.

Flat earth only seems plausible on paper and weak testing.
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Sunsets are an easy way of telling that the Earth is round.
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Explain this picture then OP if the earth is supposedly flat...


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With technology today they should be able to show1 just 1 video of the earth spinning on its axis.
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Yea why not pool money to build their own rocket with camera into space?
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Last Edited by ToSeek on 10/02/2019 10:47 AM
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With technology today they should be able to show1 just 1 video of the earth spinning on its axis.
 Quoting: Silver bird 75436794


Yea why not pool money to build their own rocket with camera into space?
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How exactly would you do this? Where would you position the rocket in order to get these pictures, and you would you keep it in that position for enough time?
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Something is up for sure , its not like we are being told, i guess much bigger , and us being just a small part in a bigger cluster of land masses each surrounded by ice walls .

lol
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Something is up for sure , its not like we are being told, i guess much bigger , and us being just a small part in a bigger cluster of land masses each surrounded by ice walls .

lol
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The military may be hiding something in Antarctica (for example, archaeological sites) but they are not lying about the size and shape of the Earth.

All those videos on Youtube where the photographer stands on the beach and zooms in showing a boat which cannot be seen with the naked eye do not prove a flat Earth.

The photographer is elevated above the water level, and the boat is not over the horizon; it is just out of the range of human vision.
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With technology today they should be able to show1 just 1 video of the earth spinning on its axis.
 Quoting: Silver bird 75436794


Yea why not pool money to build their own rocket with camera into space?
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Lol, I don’t need to explain why this is a fail.
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The refraction balltards are misinformed or deliberately voicing untruths.
If from observed and the observer are in the same density there is no refraction. You can not calculate refraction without knowing the density between observed and observer. Thinking there is a standard refraction is nonsense by the very definition of it.
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There is no observable Earth curvature so, not concave convex or a ball, has to be something else, that something else is called Flat Earth.

The ball Earth is just a mathematical construct, no physical truth of it.
Original ball Earth is a contrived size. It is just 360 degrees times 60 minutes per degree, 21600 units, nautical miles. Then 21600 X 1.15078 miles = 24856.85 circumference, simple math made the ball Earth.

The supposed diameter of the Sun is just how many seconds there are in a day, 86400, the supposed diameter of the Moon is just how many seconds there are in a day, 86400, divided by 40, 2160
What was even worse they tried to put a flat map on the globe and had to distort everything.

The depicted size of the landmasses on the ball Earth Globes are not accurate, people just assume it is.
On the ball Earth globes miles are longer at the equator miles are shorter and shorter going north and south, results in a distorted land presentation.
Globe Earth degree of longitude at the equator is 69 miles, at 30 degrees north south 60 miles, at 45 N S 49 miles, at 60 degrees N S only 35 miles per degree longitude. No accurate depiction.

The Earth is flat and non-rotating, period.
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Re: Is the earth flat? I dont know what to think anymore
I watched yhat flat earth documentary on netflix. Someone bought a flat earth testing group a $10,000 gyro.

The gyro showed the earth was circular in three seperate tests.

My conclusion was that once you include expensive equipment and extensive testing, flat earth doesn't hold up.

Flat earth only seems plausible on paper and weak testing.
 Quoting: Ra 74493934


Sunsets are an easy way of telling that the Earth is round.
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This is a gentle but persuasive argument, stronger than it appears.

The "sun moves over to the other side of the pizza" thing never made much sense.

Call up friends who live in other parts of the country at dinner time. South of you they will tell you, it stays darker longer. West of you, they will tell you, sunset is later. etc
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sorry typo that should say "south of you, sunset is later" That is because the sun is more over head closer to the equator.
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Explain this picture then OP if the earth is supposedly flat...


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flat earthers always dodge this photo as it clearly shows the earth is not flat!
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Re: Is the earth flat? I dont know what to think anymore
I’m leaning more towards round, though I’m not 100% sure either
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I am, being open minded I put some serious consideration into the flat earth theory but I am a seriously critical thinker and I would not settle for anything less than first hand experience only.

so I had to figure out a way to prove this to myself with out any hearsay whatsoever and I did.

I used my motorcycle and that made it much easier. we have a very tall mountain in the area and I traveled around it in all directions moving closer in to it and farther away from it and this combined with GPS I was able to see how it went away and got closer depending on where I was in relation to it.

case closed for me and what I did can be done by anyone. doesnt require a motorcycle but it would take much longer on foot and it is a heavily wooded area too so cars would be too limited I think. I was off roads most of the time.


before that I was nearly certain it wasnt flat by witnessing the solar eclipse but I had to use calculations too to work out the timing so as they say, 'the math dont lie' but its not exactly the same as firsthand experience either so it wasnt enough for me to be certain beyond the shadow of any doubt.


since then Ive been studying dielectric magnetism and quantum theory and have learned enough from that to not only debunk quantum/quasi physics but in the process flat earth theory also. things just dont work the flat earth way but just like magnetism, gravity, and light, we can not witness these with out naked eyes (I know most will say they can see light but thats not correct nor the subject of this thread)

what Ive written here is a way almost anyone can replicate without chartering a ship to sail the worldwide seas or an aircraft to fly around the globe.

if it is as important to you as it is myself to get to the bottom of the flat earth theory you will do it in a similar way that does not rely on any outside sources and can be proven with your own naked eyes.


FWIW
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Re: Is the earth flat? I dont know what to think anymore
I’m leaning more towards round, though I’m not 100% sure either
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The thing us, flat earthers haven't disproved anything. They haven't tried to go into space, try to disprove a north or south pole, or anything concrete. They do horizon tests that have failed on many occasions and their most expensive test (a $10,000 jyro) that i know of failed too.
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Well you prove to us that the Earth is a globe! do you know how stupid you sound. You clearly researched nothing!
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Maybe it's a Sphere that is far more gigantic than we are told and we only actually live on a small portion of it on top.

Others theorize this is a gigantic spaceship of sorts, an inter dimensional vehicle.
We know it's not a globe, ND Tyson stated that on mainstream TV.
So something is off. It may not mean flat, but it does mean lie.

I'd like to believe the basic mainstream theory of deep space, suns and planets but knowing what liars these people are, I don't trust them. Our Science teacher in 6th grade warned us he was only teaching accepted knowledge, not facts, and to never consider any science absolute.

He said they know next to nothing and most of Science especially in Astronomy is math equations and guess work. He said true science is NOT knowing and exploring to learn and know, not accepting something as fact then basing all other results upon that.

That's what Religion is, first via "faith" you accept there is a "God" and a "Jesus" as fact, then everything else in your life extrapolates from there.
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yes Like you said we are only a small portion
Like the moon only a certin spot gets sunlight
Maybe a
the habitable zone moves every so often
Imagine everything that could be buried in ice beyond where it was one habitable
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Re: Is the earth flat? I dont know what to think anymore
I’m leaning more towards round, though I’m not 100% sure either
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The thing us, flat earthers haven't disproved anything. They haven't tried to go into space, try to disprove a north or south pole, or anything concrete. They do horizon tests that have failed on many occasions and their most expensive test (a $10,000 jyro) that i know of failed too.
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Well you prove to us that the Earth is a globe! do you know how stupid you sound. You clearly researched nothing!
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The globe is already proven as everyone is taught about it and now it is in your hands to undo it and prove otherwise....

Where's you books that are being taught?
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Flat and stationary.

If you actually seek the truth, and research with a critical yet open mind, you'll fine the earth is flat and stationary just like it looks and feels.
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Something is up for sure , its not like we are being told, i guess much bigger , and us being just a small part in a bigger cluster of land masses each surrounded by ice walls .

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77727632


The military may be hiding something in Antarctica (for example, archaeological sites) but they are not lying about the size and shape of the Earth.

All those videos on Youtube where the photographer stands on the beach and zooms in showing a boat which cannot be seen with the naked eye do not prove a flat Earth.

The photographer is elevated above the water level, and the boat is not over the horizon; it is just out of the range of human vision.
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Actually in most of those it is below the resolution of the camera when zoomed out but likely still visible to the human eye. that's how they know where to look with the camera.
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Re: Is the earth flat? I dont know what to think anymore
I’m leaning more towards round, though I’m not 100% sure either
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The thing is, flat earthers haven't disproved anything. They haven't tried to go into space, try to disprove a north or south pole, or anything concrete. They do horizon tests that have failed on many occasions and their most expensive test (a $10,000 jyro) that i know of failed too.
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Well you prove to us that the Earth is a globe! do you know how stupid you sound. You clearly researched nothing!
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You're right, i haven't wasted time researching flat earth. I saw hardcore flat earth believers use a $10,000 gyro that disproved the earth was flat and they still believed in flat earth.

I don't have to prove the earth is a globe. Almost all scientists believe it is a globe. It is on the VERY small amount of flat earthers to prove tge earth us flat ....

All i seen is half-baked science experiments. And as soon as the flat eartgers got a serious piece of scientific equipment they were proved wrong!

Why am i going to waste time researching something that seems so obviously b.s.
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There is no observable Earth curvature so, not concave convex or a ball, has to be something else, that something else is called Flat Earth.

The ball Earth is just a mathematical construct, no physical truth of it.
Original ball Earth is a contrived size. It is just 360 degrees times 60 minutes per degree, 21600 units, nautical miles. Then 21600 X 1.15078 miles = 24856.85 circumference, simple math made the ball Earth.

The supposed diameter of the Sun is just how many seconds there are in a day, 86400, the supposed diameter of the Moon is just how many seconds there are in a day, 86400, divided by 40, 2160
What was even worse they tried to put a flat map on the globe and had to distort everything.

The depicted size of the landmasses on the ball Earth Globes are not accurate, people just assume it is.
On the ball Earth globes miles are longer at the equator miles are shorter and shorter going north and south, results in a distorted land presentation.
Globe Earth degree of longitude at the equator is 69 miles, at 30 degrees north south 60 miles, at 45 N S 49 miles, at 60 degrees N S only 35 miles per degree longitude. No accurate depiction.

The Earth is flat and non-rotating, period.
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Don't you think if it was so obvious there would be at least a dozen scientists and engineers that could design an experiment that would prove flat earth?

Something that could be peer reviewed?

Why noy build a rocket and send it to space? Why not go to Antartica?

Why aren't more scientists taking flat earth seriously if the math was so concrete?
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I am unsure either. I do know the FE have compelling evidence for it. Also the other day I was waiting in line with a friend and my son for a ride and I overheard the people talking about how the sun rays were only hitting one spot on the earth or something, didn't get all of it and I heard the other guy he was with say, Yeah that's what the flat earther's say that it's proof its flat didn't catch all of it, and the other guy was like whaaat, turned to my friend and said see they are talking flat earth too

guess my point is, everyone is wondering this shit

Ask Elon Musk I guess
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Did you recently suffer major head trauma, or have you always been mentally retarded?
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So you believe everything you're told?
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There is no observable Earth curvature so, not concave convex or a ball, has to be something else, that something else is called Flat Earth.

The ball Earth is just a mathematical construct, no physical truth of it.
Original ball Earth is a contrived size. It is just 360 degrees times 60 minutes per degree, 21600 units, nautical miles. Then 21600 X 1.15078 miles = 24856.85 circumference, simple math made the ball Earth.

The supposed diameter of the Sun is just how many seconds there are in a day, 86400, the supposed diameter of the Moon is just how many seconds there are in a day, 86400, divided by 40, 2160
What was even worse they tried to put a flat map on the globe and had to distort everything.

The depicted size of the landmasses on the ball Earth Globes are not accurate, people just assume it is.
On the ball Earth globes miles are longer at the equator miles are shorter and shorter going north and south, results in a distorted land presentation.
Globe Earth degree of longitude at the equator is 69 miles, at 30 degrees north south 60 miles, at 45 N S 49 miles, at 60 degrees N S only 35 miles per degree longitude. No accurate depiction.

The Earth is flat and non-rotating, period.
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Don't you think if it was so obvious there would be at least a dozen scientists and engineers that could design an experiment that would prove flat earth?

Something that could be peer reviewed?

Why noy build a rocket and send it to space? Why not go to Antartica?

Why aren't more scientists taking flat earth seriously if the math was so concrete?
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Who pays the scientist?





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