suntards gonna suntard.
i got through a lot of it and my first question was ....
you have the tech to build these pillars , but you can’t just write this shit down??? a stone tablet ? on the walls of the structure? have a class and teach it to kids?? “umm hey assholes , every 12 thousand years this what happens”. it’s always got to be this murky little mystery!! christ already ....
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72063809 This was my first thought when I saw this, if it was so important to record, and you have the ability to produce such accurate monuments, why not write the warning down?
Thinking about it though, they probably did! Imagine, it would be a written story, on tablets, as well as word of mouth, given the difficulty of writing and carrying tablets its likely as population spread out to be carried on via word of mouth ("classes" as you
say), so its been a 12000 year long game of "broken telephone".
[** note below I am illustrating points, I am not claiming these are true facts, and "you" means people in general not specific attack on OP]
Besides, even if they did, would you believe it?
If we look at the world right now, there are numerous written histories, in tablet, parchment and modern form, and how many do people believe?
Lets take one of the most common, the Bible, now here is a written history that says if you check out your neighbours wife then die before repenting to Jesus your not-so-loving Father will burn and torment you forever.
Now, how many believe this? Even with this "recent" story, many have different interpretations, many don't believe, etc, and yet its part of our written history.
Sumerian tablets telling of (aliens?) like Enki and Enlil coming here, creating us, just generally messing whole place up, etc etc, how many believe it, how many say "bs" ?
So imagine what would happen to a 12000 year old story about a magical ray of light coming from the heavens to destroy everything? After time, how many would believe it, how would it have changed over time?
Besides, do we not still have record of this coming event in some forms? Does the above mentioned Bible not contain a prophecy of a day when the earth will shake and tear its apart and fire from the heavens will wipe us out? Of course its been amended, and all those years ago the story was changed into a form in which this will be done by a psychopathic god to punish people for various random wrong doings, and the only way to escape the catastrophe was, in essence, to pay money to the church (which is what it ultimately amounted to), so here we have the human issue, those in the know manipulating important history for their own gain.
Then look at how much history has been lost, either accidentally, just by petty destruction from pointless conquests by Spanish, English, etc to dominate and crush natives, or by deliberate attempt to hide this history. Afaik, one of the first locations taken in one of the Gulf wars by US was a temple of some kind packed with old tablets, plus the raiding and removal of artifacts from museums. Makes you wonder if they were looking for or trying to destroy something.
“And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.”
― Galadriel in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Lord of the Rings
Loved your analogy of "game of telephone...12,000 years
later." That's a riot!..And it isn't far from what has
been going on in "Victorian Vintage Education" for decades!
(That's what Immanuel Velikovsky thought of the college
textbooks even back in the 1960's...and its still true today!)
I'm not going to go through ALL your interesting list of
things point by point as they "came to you" with this
first person's quote...(You REALLY bring up some very interesting
things)...However, I will say this much (sorry it's
long...but here goes):
First of all there have been many books--one just written
by Graham Hancock is a good one called "America Before"
--has an interview with Joe Rogan's YouTube channel and
you can easily google that. (There is also a thread up
on it from last month.) He coins a NEW IDEA FROM CATASTROPIC
GEOLOGY THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT!Hancock believes that what we are seeing at Gobekli Tepe
--as one example of a 12,000 year old temple with carved
pillars--is
something that he has coined "a TRANSFER OF TECHNOLOGY/KNOWLEDGE." I happen to think this is a very
good explanation for why they are finding "advanced"
sites around the world now...but NO REFERENCE IN CURRENT
LITERATURE as to their having existed.
Say, if survivors of the technologically advanced civilization
of Atlantis made their way to Turkey--where people living
there at the time were STILL "hunter/gatherers" as is
current in general anthropology textbooks...then you
would have advanced people living side-by-side with people
less advanced. This "mixing" of cultures and knowledge
is happening even in our timeline where tribes of people
still essentially in "the cave age" are living deep in
the jungle. What happens to THEIR CULTURE when the folks
from OUR TIME intermingle with them and offer THEM our
current technology. AND, say that 1,000s of years later,
archeologists find the remains of this tribal group that
has come into contact with "advanced beings/technology"
--for certain it would be very confusing to interpret.
This really "skews" the whole report you would get 1000's
of years later of the jungle tribe people because what they
would have LEARNED (as a "transfer of knowledge") wouldn't
reflect the GRADUAL EVOLUTION OF THEIR OWN CIVILIZATION--
it would appear there were "sudden leaps" of knowledge which
wouldn't be from their own efforts and traditions.
Pillar #42 at Gobekli Tepe with what I believe
it is trying to convey. Constellations are an
easy part of the "message"--and that has already
been confirmed according to Graham Hancock in 2019
(I suggested this a couple years ago!) However, it
gets "muddied" after finding the constellations as
to the WHOLE MESSAGE. I believe those "baskets" at
the top are for MINERS who dig for gold and other
"exotic metals" which come from the after-math of
a galactic event and then are mined by civilizations
rising AFTER THE FACT. There is a good deal of
debate now about what the "3 baskets" might be.
Dr. Paul LaViolette even stated there had been GOLD
found in arctic ice remnants along with the Berrilium 10.
So you get a message like:
Precious elements like gold,
platinum and Berrilium 10 come TO THE EARTH via a
galactic event from Constellations Sagittarius, Scorpius
and Ophiuchus...BE WATCHING! (My interp.)There doesn't need to be written documentation or "signs
of ancient garbage piles" to prove these people existed
when you come across something like a DELIBERATELY BURIED
site like Gobekli Tepe. It was meant to be a "time capsule"
by our ancient fathers--maybe AS A WARNING for what is
coming up. Perhaps, they even selected this remote site
that doesn't have PREVIOUS signs of civilization to make
it a PURE and uncontaminated site which would be easier
to interpret.
Gobekli Tepe predates the Bible by 1,000s of years
according to current scholarship but it does NOT negate
the points of prophetic information in the Bible. In fact,
it can actually CONFIRM THAT INFORMATION by providing other
standards of correlation that we haven't even explored yet.
I wouldn't put so much faith in "the written word/documents" from these ancient 12,000 year old sites...since these can be
altered or adulterated. STONE CARVINGS that can be carbon
dated like Gobekli Tepe are the "purest form" of ancient
"report" you can hope for...
the trick is INTERPRETATION
of those carvings. That is where certain political or
religious "agendas" can skew their value. Let's hope
they get it right when they translate the carvings!
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