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Incel VS Chad - 4Chan Radicalization of The Canadian Van Attacker

 
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Just a note for the retards out there: he describes (dubiously) speaking with two mass killers (personally I think he is making it up, the chances of that are remote), suggesting it was a meeting ground for extremists, but specifically says it wasn't discussed on the forums. Therefore it was not radicalization on the forums. He calls them pussies who wouldn't do that sort of thing. Radicalization meets people there teaching each other how to kill or upping them to do so. That is not what he describes in the video at all. I shouldn't have to write this, I expect people to have half a brain and process what they are seeing not make shit up!
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Moreover, for those who lack the ability to discern what I am saying, maybe there can be different levels or kinds of radicalization. The forums taught him lingo and anti-feminism. That's all you have. You don't have other members there (even the two he conversed with, who he specifically said didn't tell him of their plans) telling him that he should go out and slaughter people. That is your inference transplanted on what he said. He specifically said he went it alone. He was inspired by Elliot Rodger but not carrying out an act like how a terrorist cell might indoctrinate people.
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And if you can't see how that distinction is important, well... Go ahead, cut down on free speech. Don't blame me when you lose your own. By the way, I am a member of any incel community. I detest incels as much as I detest everyone else. Their lingo in particular is a joke.
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Moreover, all this shit is literally brainwashing: repeating something so often that it becomes perceived as true, even if it isn't. Like incels are terrorist cells or all mass shooters are autistic and incels. Neither of which are true, but don't let the facts get in the way. The facts?

- About half of all shooters are either married, divorced, living in marriage like situations or widowed.

- I can count the number of autistic shooters/killers on one hand (Adam Lanza, Harper-Mercer, Minassian, Nikolas Cruz).

- The only killer that has definitively been connected with the incel movement is Alek Minassian. He alleges (dubiously) Elliot Rodger and Harper-Mercer were also contacts from those places. The Southern Povertly Law Center picked out seemingly random social profiles and posted them as Elliot Rodger's that suggested he was active on a Pick Up Artist hate forum.

- You can't produce statistics to back you up, you're just basing it on what the media tells you like a bunch of gullible morons (on a conspiracy forum where you are suppose to question everything no less).
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It's also a self-fulfilling prophecy that the media is using to say "see, we were right all along" by lying in the first place.

Elliot Rodger had an incel ideological manifesto. He never called himself an incel in that manifesto or suggested he was a member of any incel collective. The Southern Poverty Law Centre tracked down two social media profiles, at least one of which was found out to be someone elses. Perhaps due to the fact that they seemed to pluck them out of nothing, scarcely anyone in the media posted those as Elliot Rodger, but certain Wikipedia editors have embraced it as fact.

You had no link to incel forums. Absolutely NONE. But certain forums were apparently forced off the web for fear that somehow these forums were indoctrinating fanatics.

Then you had Harper-Mercer, who's links with incel ideology are almost completely invisible (he didn't leave behind a manifesto, he hasn't been shown to be connected to social media, he killed people indiscriminatly and there are allegations he targetted people for their religion... there are also claims on Wikipedia that he was a white supremacist despite the fact that he was mixed race with his mother being black!) leading to the possibility that the only connection he has to the movement is in the medias heads.

So at this point, you had no connection with the movement. Then, voila: the media got their self-fulfilling prophecy, a gullible moron just like almost everyone here who happened to be one of the statistical psychotic that exists in every community who happened to be an incel. You (the media, the left wing, the feminists, etc) told him there was this rebellion going on and he acted out on it. He thought there was this war going on, based on media deceit. It is not known whether he did have any social contact with the other two, but it is doubtful and it sounds like someone who is inventing shit up.

Then you have the BBC cockroaches saying we were right all along, there is the epidemic of incel inspired spree shooters and mass killers. Followed by threads here insisting almost all mass shooters are incels. You keep this up, you will inspire more of the people who are a statistical fact in every social demographic. And the self-fulfilling prophecy goes on.
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A very disturbing video, to even know people like him exist.

I wonder if people like him are an unforeseen side-effect of feminism?

My reasoning is: women aren't looking for husbands/providers anymore. Being a husbands/providers is something any man with drive and ambition can be, and he would automatically be husband material. Back in the good old days, I don't recall any kind of concept of "chad" husbands and "incel" husbands.

Women now have sex freely. This creates in all men the hope and expectation of free sex. But, no no no. Women are only having sex freely with men based on physical attractiveness. Since not all men are physically attractive, the concept of "chads" and "incels" is created.

So its my opinion that feminism inadvertently created this sad sack of shit person, heartless killer, destroyer of innocent lives. And people like him. How? By paving the way for women to have sex freely with whomever they choose, based purely on physical attractiveness. And the idea of saving it for marriage not even factoring into it. Women don't want to have sex with "incels", they don't want to marry "incels". So basically, there would seem to be no place in society for "incels." Hence, this crazy fucker now exists.

How many more people like him are out there, who are just sooner or later going to snap and lash out at innocent people?

Do you think its a fair opinion to suggest that feminism inadvertently created head cases like this guy?
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A couple of things I'd like to correct because I am not a lying cockroach (aka. journalist):

I have since looked into the supposed profile of Elliot Rodgers. If that profile was his, he referred to himself many times as an incel but never indicated he was part of an incel community. The community this profile was found on was PUAHate (Pick Up Artist hate). Incels may have been there, but it was not specifically an incel community. This person talked about enacting revenge, but expressed no plans. I haven't seen any evidence he was being provoked into his act, if it is him, but I have not seen the context of those posts. This profile seems to be alleged to be his because another profile existed on the same forum by the name of ElliotRodger.

This DOES NOT alter the fact that there is no evidence that based on some guys ramblings who may or may not be Elliot Rodger, there is no indication from these posts that the forum was radicalizing or indoctrinating a person into mass murder! I also will not alter my claims that he never called himself an incel because it is not proved that profile was his. I put it as a maybe in my post, that won't change.

Secondly, after posting I read a Rolling Stones article claiming he said Elliot Rodger told him of his plans, which contradicts my post. The reason for this confusion is the cited section by the Rolling Stone proves they have poor reading skills pertaining to that section. The section specifically says he didn't know what Rodger was planning, but Ridger told him he'd probably not make it back alive, he guessed and didn't want it to be true. That's specifically what he fucking said! So why are the retards at Rolling Stone saying he was told of the plans?

Well, there is another section in the interview where he said he was told of Rodger's and Harper-Mercer's plans for 'timed strikes'. This seems to have been in private corespondance. People also have not been able to locate the profiles that these people were said to have used, I believe on Reddit? Elliot Rodger's username cited by Minassian was the username for Elliot Rodger's second YouTube channel, possible evidence this guy has researched Elliot Rodger and had imaginary conversations with him and Harper-Mercer in his psychotic head.

None of this changes the fact that these incel forums are just places where certain people gather and talk about their problems and not 'terrorist cells' indoctrinating people that need to be crushed.

If you removed every forum from the internet a murderer participated in, you would not have Facebook, you would not have YouTube, you probably wouldn't have GodLikeProductions. Because that's the only connection you've established: a murderer went to ForeverAlone and another potentially went to PUA Hate.
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God, I suppose I have to clear this up for the retards as well:

but it was not specifically an incel community.

Incel as a system of beliefs (an ideology), not a sexual status. It may be most of the people at PUA Hate were virgins or unable to get sex, but that DOES NOT mean it is an incel ideology.
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I've always thought of the Chad/Stacy meme as a harmless meme. I'm shocked to see some people are influenced enough to kill people over it. Wow.
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With the assassinations of the King of Saudi's bodyguards and a coup in Saudi happening there will be more SLEEPER CELLS released.

Understanding this guy being interrogated is essential to safety. Do quick study, this is unfolding fast.
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Canadastan? Who gives a fuck.
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Old thread but I have to say this is the biggest joke. He was not an incel. He was something much worse albeit very familiar. If he hated women so much why didn't he open fire in a Sephora or Victoria secret or drive the van through a parking lot of a woman's gym?. This is bullsh*t. He drove the van into a random group of people. Do I even have to say what he probably was?
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Old thread but I have to say this is the biggest joke. He was not an incel. He was something much worse albeit very familiar. If he hated women so much why didn't he open fire in a Sephora or Victoria secret or drive the van through a parking lot of a woman's gym?. This is bullsh*t. He drove the van into a random group of people. Do I even have to say what he probably was?
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You could speculate but try the facts:

-Described as a severe autistic. Friends express shock.
-Rents a vehicle with allegedly no ability to drive (ID?).
-TO police conduct emergency barricade drills week prior
-Chooses day that NATO special meeting takes place in TO
-Surrenders pointing finger gun at police who don't shoot
-Preliminary hearing delayed then waived (sound familiar)?
-Law professors take his case pro bono
-Trial by judge and not jury delayed to 2020 on 8/29
-Interrogation video released 9/29 looks partly deepfaked

This walking, driving experiment was unleashed on us, why?
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Re: Incel VS Chad - 4Chan Radicalization of The Canadian Van Attacker
Old thread but I have to say this is the biggest joke. He was not an incel. He was something much worse albeit very familiar. If he hated women so much why didn't he open fire in a Sephora or Victoria secret or drive the van through a parking lot of a woman's gym?. This is bullsh*t. He drove the van into a random group of people. Do I even have to say what he probably was?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76180677



You could speculate but try the facts:

-Described as a severe autistic. Friends express shock.
-Rents a vehicle with allegedly no ability to drive (ID?).
-TO police conduct emergency barricade drills week prior
-Chooses day that NATO special meeting takes place in TO
-Surrenders pointing finger gun at police who don't shoot
-Preliminary hearing delayed then waived (sound familiar)?
-Law professors take his case pro bono
-Trial by judge and not jury delayed to 2020 on 8/29
-Interrogation video released 9/29 looks partly deepfaked

This walking, driving experiment was unleashed on us, why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77857256


Old thread but I have to say this is the biggest joke. He was not an incel. He was something much worse albeit very familiar. If he hated women so much why didn't he open fire in a Sephora or Victoria secret or drive the van through a parking lot of a woman's gym?. This is bullsh*t. He drove the van into a random group of people. Do I even have to say what he probably was?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76180677



You could speculate but try the facts:

-Described as a severe autistic. Friends express shock.
-Rents a vehicle with allegedly no ability to drive (ID?).
-TO police conduct emergency barricade drills week prior
-Chooses day that NATO special meeting takes place in TO
-Surrenders pointing finger gun at police who don't shoot
-Preliminary hearing delayed then waived (sound familiar)?
-Law professors take his case pro bono
-Trial by judge and not jury delayed to 2020 on 8/29
-Interrogation video released 9/29 looks partly deepfaked

This walking, driving experiment was unleashed on us, why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77857256


Severely Autistic my ass. He was in the Canadian forces training program, they require a typical I.Q score (which a severely Autistic person would not have) before a person can even enroll. He managed to pass both the I.Q and psych assessment to get in. What a miracle right?

This is a f******g Muslim sh*t attack and most people know it.





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