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A new method of accessing nonlinear cognition (including telepathy and precognition).

 
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[link to www.rudolfsteineraudio.com]

This was 100 years ago, and make more sense than that giberish

WTF does this mean?

"Within ambience, the body unies with its vicinity,dissolves all dualism, and becomes a Juggernaut capable not only of converting every local action/expression into a contribution
, but of converting perceptual-importations into levels of reliance or importance.
When the Juggernaut, within ambience, singly imports the entire Earth into its bioclassiers, it feels nonillions of deep bonds with live and ostensibly dead Juggernauts, and the human becomes telepathic. "

That is the most unclear language ever spoken.

Here is the full audio. Steiner was the best at explaining higher worlds..

[link to www.rudolfsteineraudio.com]
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First of all, the introductory statements are purposely extremely evocative. Some won't like that, but I assure you, the book contains a plethora of writing styles. And if you prefer other sources, that's no problem at all. Clarity is a luxury. Lucidity, whose brightness initially presents itself as blurriness, precedes clarity. Understand that, by desiring clarity from the start, you are bypassing your entire childhood. Did you get thrusted out of a womb speaking clean grammatical English? Hehehe.
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Agreed. I also find reading Steiner to be difficult. Dense, packed material, like this book, That is why the audio is better. It flows into you better. Learning from books / written language/ abstracts the meaning down a level, that your brain must first decipher, then interpret. When listening, it avoids that extra layer. Your level of vocabulary is also above the norm, so it takes extra effort. I will try again. You seem to be on a similar path as Steiner.
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Im so intuitive and precognitive I didn’t even need to fully read this post or go to the link!
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do you have a way for downloading, without email, or without an account on google or facebook?
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Thanks for notifying us of this limitation on Academia.edu. Yes, we will shortly provide this thread with a direct download link.
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Thanks
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Whoever is getting caught up in the way you expressed verbally is slightly touched with assburnger's syndrome. U do not have to justify or validate their opinion.
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People are attracted to these kinds of innate human abilities we call "supernormal abilities".

They need to be very carefully used and this sort of thing can attract the wrong kinds of people who might do bad things.

The way you wrote your book is correct, you have to break the standard thought patterns and you can indeed do this with the writing style you have chosen. People literally have to change their way of thinking to unlock their full potentials, as pointed out by many comments.
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

Don't be afraid.
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People are attracted to these kinds of innate human abilities we call "supernormal abilities".

They need to be very carefully used and this sort of thing can attract the wrong kinds of people who might do bad things.

The way you wrote your book is correct, you have to break the standard thought patterns and you can indeed do this with the writing style you have chosen. People literally have to change their way of thinking to unlock their full potentials, as pointed out by many comments.
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Yes, they do need to be used very carefully. And yes, these abilities are desperately desired by bad people. But remember, magic and psi are different. Those who do bad pay a price that the good do not.

Thank you for this assessment. I hope you enjoy reading.
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[link to www.rudolfsteineraudio.com]

This was 100 years ago, and make more sense than that giberish

WTF does this mean?

"Within ambience, the body unies with its vicinity,dissolves all dualism, and becomes a Juggernaut capable not only of converting every local action/expression into a contribution
, but of converting perceptual-importations into levels of reliance or importance.
When the Juggernaut, within ambience, singly imports the entire Earth into its bioclassiers, it feels nonillions of deep bonds with live and ostensibly dead Juggernauts, and the human becomes telepathic. "

That is the most unclear language ever spoken.

Here is the full audio. Steiner was the best at explaining higher worlds..

[link to www.rudolfsteineraudio.com]
 Quoting: sanspeur 75108118



First of all, the introductory statements are purposely extremely evocative. Some won't like that, but I assure you, the book contains a plethora of writing styles. And if you prefer other sources, that's no problem at all. Clarity is a luxury. Lucidity, whose brightness initially presents itself as blurriness, precedes clarity. Understand that, by desiring clarity from the start, you are bypassing your entire childhood. Did you get thrusted out of a womb speaking clean grammatical English? Hehehe.
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Agreed. I also find reading Steiner to be difficult. Dense, packed material, like this book, That is why the audio is better. It flows into you better. Learning from books / written language/ abstracts the meaning down a level, that your brain must first decipher, then interpret. When listening, it avoids that extra layer. Your level of vocabulary is also above the norm, so it takes extra effort. I will try again. You seem to be on a similar path as Steiner.
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You’ve just reinforced the necessity to publish an audio version. We will work on that. Thanks.
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You lost me with the "help God evolve" comment
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Lost you, or led you? ;] Please, recognize that my brief lines on the logic of semilanguages leads us to one possible conclusion: the semilanguages must be subsumed by one metalanguage M. Your body is structurally supported in the object-level semilanguage Lo; your psyche is dynamically stratified across sectors of the relational semilanguage Ls. But we know that every distinction, be it between ants, galaxies, or semilanguages, must converge on a "medium" which itself produces the programmatic opportunity for a psyche to perceive a stable distinction. This medium must serve as a metalanguage to the psyche distinguishing its body from external objects. Distinctions are variables of syntactic rules, which relate the variables, thereby logically dissolving any absolute distinction between the variables. Right? So these semilanguages are programmatically potentializing through the metalanguage M. The only rules forced by M lie in logical syntax. M is God. Some prefer Source. Personally, I prefer to say...Reality. Our souls are the autoprogrammatic (self-deterministic) mappings *between* Lo object-states and Ls psychical-relations.

If M is the metalanguage according to which all semilanguages must operate, then God is Reality. Deny this truth, and you simultaneously deny the very stability and intelligibility of the cognitive production of your question. It's as simple as that.

The existence of God is proven, perceptually, by the utter stability of your vicinity. The vicinity's stability entails that at least this reality exists in some sense. Period. Deny this incessant facial fact, and you are deludedly, contradictorily denying your expression's very reality.

So yes, we are here to help God evolve. This sentence translates to: humans are on Earth to help Reality evolve. And by the way, this is the best possible scenario.
 Quoting: Human Hybrid-Attractors 77605334


Perhaps your god needs help but my God does not.

I have experienced premonitions and I acknowledge there are many mysteries still hidden to us... that is what attracted me to this thread.

I am no rocket scientist but I get the distinct feeling this is 5% science and 95% new age junk.

If you are a new ager I have no problem with that, it's not for me but to each their own.

However the fact that you go so ridiculously overboard with unnecessary technical language pegs my BS meter.

If you can't explain something in relatable every day language you come off as trying to sound impressive without sharing any practical information. Or maybe I need a PHD to fully understand and the fault is on my end.

Either way, live and let live... peace to you
 Quoting: StellaBlue



I empathize. Seriously. Everybody has their own language. I write technically because proof is technical. And these days, for better or worse, the world needs proof of God. You have no need for logical proof. Good. We need more intuitives. But intuition leads to plurality, you see. My God? Your God? No...this divine division is religion's deepest mistake. Reality is one. God is Reality. Reality has mental and physical aspects. Humans are hybrid attractors of each aspect. Basically, we are God's sensors in localities. We are also God's activators. Actors. You are referring to God's highest level: on this level, God is absolutely invariant. Eternal perfection. This level of God needs no help, of course! But human bodies are also (lower) levels of God. We are "inside" God. If you like, we are the cells of God's body. And our entire prerogative and reason for existence is to evolve our microscopic psychic-bodies through these lifetimes. Our lifetimes are important. Every single one, each of us. No exceptions. No escape. If human beings were not extremely important to Reality, which we are, then why would we emerge at all? Emergence is evolution. No division. No dualism. We are local agents of God. God's invariant level is...changeless. You got it. This level supports the whole system. But why continue existing if change is impossible? Eternity can change, as long as it is self-contained. We, humans, help "change" God...in positive and negative ways. It is in this sense that we help God evolve, or hurt evolution.

I'm honestly happy to give you any practical knowledge I have that is relevant to you. Please, just ask :]
 Quoting: Human Hybrid-Attractors 77605334


Now we're getting somewhere! Thanks for dumbing it down for me. I agree with much that you stated above, but now we get to the real meat of the matter- what is reality? And at the risk of turning this into a religious thread, which I do not wish to do- God IS both changeless and infinite, to the extent that God is both constant & consistent, yet capable of things our limited brains can not conceive. Infinite levels, yes. But how can eternity change, when by it's very definition is NOT self contained? With God all things are possible...

Getting back to the question of reality, THIS is why I come here, what is reality and more importantly what is truth? Is there a way to determine this which isn't subjective? I'm sure you're familiar with the double slit experiment, which seems to reinforce, at least to my limited intelligence, that there is no consensus, no solid "truth" or "reality". It's subjective.

I am so sorry for going off the subject matter but I am so desperately trying to find answers. Everything is such a paradox. The more I search, the more questions arise. I accept that there is much which will finally be revealed when my time on this earth is done, God will make it all understandable, and I trust and take comfort in that. But in the meantime I am like the child always asking "but why?"

I would like to hear more about your experiments, and thank you for your patience with me. I am struggling to understand, and appreciate any knowledge you might share.
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Lost you, or led you? ;] Please, recognize that my brief lines on the logic of semilanguages leads us to one possible conclusion: the semilanguages must be subsumed by one metalanguage M. Your body is structurally supported in the object-level semilanguage Lo; your psyche is dynamically stratified across sectors of the relational semilanguage Ls. But we know that every distinction, be it between ants, galaxies, or semilanguages, must converge on a "medium" which itself produces the programmatic opportunity for a psyche to perceive a stable distinction. This medium must serve as a metalanguage to the psyche distinguishing its body from external objects. Distinctions are variables of syntactic rules, which relate the variables, thereby logically dissolving any absolute distinction between the variables. Right? So these semilanguages are programmatically potentializing through the metalanguage M. The only rules forced by M lie in logical syntax. M is God. Some prefer Source. Personally, I prefer to say...Reality. Our souls are the autoprogrammatic (self-deterministic) mappings *between* Lo object-states and Ls psychical-relations.

If M is the metalanguage according to which all semilanguages must operate, then God is Reality. Deny this truth, and you simultaneously deny the very stability and intelligibility of the cognitive production of your question. It's as simple as that.

The existence of God is proven, perceptually, by the utter stability of your vicinity. The vicinity's stability entails that at least this reality exists in some sense. Period. Deny this incessant facial fact, and you are deludedly, contradictorily denying your expression's very reality.

So yes, we are here to help God evolve. This sentence translates to: humans are on Earth to help Reality evolve. And by the way, this is the best possible scenario.
 Quoting: Human Hybrid-Attractors 77605334


Perhaps your god needs help but my God does not.

I have experienced premonitions and I acknowledge there are many mysteries still hidden to us... that is what attracted me to this thread.

I am no rocket scientist but I get the distinct feeling this is 5% science and 95% new age junk.

If you are a new ager I have no problem with that, it's not for me but to each their own.

However the fact that you go so ridiculously overboard with unnecessary technical language pegs my BS meter.

If you can't explain something in relatable every day language you come off as trying to sound impressive without sharing any practical information. Or maybe I need a PHD to fully understand and the fault is on my end.

Either way, live and let live... peace to you
 Quoting: StellaBlue



I empathize. Seriously. Everybody has their own language. I write technically because proof is technical. And these days, for better or worse, the world needs proof of God. You have no need for logical proof. Good. We need more intuitives. But intuition leads to plurality, you see. My God? Your God? No...this divine division is religion's deepest mistake. Reality is one. God is Reality. Reality has mental and physical aspects. Humans are hybrid attractors of each aspect. Basically, we are God's sensors in localities. We are also God's activators. Actors. You are referring to God's highest level: on this level, God is absolutely invariant. Eternal perfection. This level of God needs no help, of course! But human bodies are also (lower) levels of God. We are "inside" God. If you like, we are the cells of God's body. And our entire prerogative and reason for existence is to evolve our microscopic psychic-bodies through these lifetimes. Our lifetimes are important. Every single one, each of us. No exceptions. No escape. If human beings were not extremely important to Reality, which we are, then why would we emerge at all? Emergence is evolution. No division. No dualism. We are local agents of God. God's invariant level is...changeless. You got it. This level supports the whole system. But why continue existing if change is impossible? Eternity can change, as long as it is self-contained. We, humans, help "change" God...in positive and negative ways. It is in this sense that we help God evolve, or hurt evolution.

I'm honestly happy to give you any practical knowledge I have that is relevant to you. Please, just ask :]
 Quoting: Human Hybrid-Attractors 77605334


Now we're getting somewhere! Thanks for dumbing it down for me. I agree with much that you stated above, but now we get to the real meat of the matter- what is reality? And at the risk of turning this into a religious thread, which I do not wish to do- God IS both changeless and infinite, to the extent that God is both constant & consistent, yet capable of things our limited brains can not conceive. Infinite levels, yes. But how can eternity change, when by it's very definition is NOT self contained? With God all things are possible...

Getting back to the question of reality, THIS is why I come here, what is reality and more importantly what is truth? Is there a way to determine this which isn't subjective? I'm sure you're familiar with the double slit experiment, which seems to reinforce, at least to my limited intelligence, that there is no consensus, no solid "truth" or "reality". It's subjective.

I am so sorry for going off the subject matter but I am so desperately trying to find answers. Everything is such a paradox. The more I search, the more questions arise. I accept that there is much which will finally be revealed when my time on this earth is done, God will make it all understandable, and I trust and take comfort in that. But in the meantime I am like the child always asking "but why?"

I would like to hear more about your experiments, and thank you for your patience with me. I am struggling to understand, and appreciate any knowledge you might share.
 Quoting: Stella Blue 77986159


I didn't dumb it down! Do not demean yourself, even subtly. Like I said, everyone has their own language. Technical language is only "superior" in its rigor and level of detail. That's it. You are genuinely asking the fundamental questions. This, alone, makes you highly insightful. I applaud your humbleness. Scientists could learn from you. You say "I don't know", and mean it. I love that. Because you are open to shocking and wondrous truths.

What is reality? What is truth? At its highest level, reality is absolute truth. God, being ultimate reality, is absolute truth. And what is the theory of truth? Logic. But don't get intimidated. Stay with me. Logic is the theory by which humans distinguish true statements (1) and false statements (0). So, when you hear a new statement claiming a truth, your brain immediately situates the statement in a 2-valued dichotomy between falsity and truth [0, 1]. And it must do this, or else you're not paying attention to the statement. Now let's make an intriguing move. Let's translate: falsity=nonexistence (0) and truth=existence (1). This move allows us to ask the most basic factual question: is it a fact that reality exists? Is it true...that reality exists? But remember, we translated true=existence!

Original question: is it true that reality exists?
Translated question: does existence, exist?

The answer is yes. If the answer were no, THEN THE QUESTION COULD NOT BE COGNITIVELY PRODUCED. If you want to fully anchor yourself in reality, always ask yourself this: does existence exist? But then you might ask...what if don't exist? Radical doubt, right? Okay, let's retranslate...DOES SOMETHING EXIST? If you answer no, then you are simultaneously negating your expression. If a question is asked, something exists. Your question concludes with its own ending. It answers itself, even though we overlook the answer again and again and again. We all know how obviousness escapes us. Well, how about the most obvious truth of all? That something exists. Something. Existence. No need to specify it. Something exists: the most general statement conceivable.

Now...why does reality exist? Although I have already hinted at the answer in this thread (to help God evolve through our lifetimes), I will save the elaboration for later. I hope this helps.
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Perhaps your god needs help but my God does not.

I have experienced premonitions and I acknowledge there are many mysteries still hidden to us... that is what attracted me to this thread.

I am no rocket scientist but I get the distinct feeling this is 5% science and 95% new age junk.

If you are a new ager I have no problem with that, it's not for me but to each their own.

However the fact that you go so ridiculously overboard with unnecessary technical language pegs my BS meter.

If you can't explain something in relatable every day language you come off as trying to sound impressive without sharing any practical information. Or maybe I need a PHD to fully understand and the fault is on my end.

Either way, live and let live... peace to you
 Quoting: StellaBlue



I empathize. Seriously. Everybody has their own language. I write technically because proof is technical. And these days, for better or worse, the world needs proof of God. You have no need for logical proof. Good. We need more intuitives. But intuition leads to plurality, you see. My God? Your God? No...this divine division is religion's deepest mistake. Reality is one. God is Reality. Reality has mental and physical aspects. Humans are hybrid attractors of each aspect. Basically, we are God's sensors in localities. We are also God's activators. Actors. You are referring to God's highest level: on this level, God is absolutely invariant. Eternal perfection. This level of God needs no help, of course! But human bodies are also (lower) levels of God. We are "inside" God. If you like, we are the cells of God's body. And our entire prerogative and reason for existence is to evolve our microscopic psychic-bodies through these lifetimes. Our lifetimes are important. Every single one, each of us. No exceptions. No escape. If human beings were not extremely important to Reality, which we are, then why would we emerge at all? Emergence is evolution. No division. No dualism. We are local agents of God. God's invariant level is...changeless. You got it. This level supports the whole system. But why continue existing if change is impossible? Eternity can change, as long as it is self-contained. We, humans, help "change" God...in positive and negative ways. It is in this sense that we help God evolve, or hurt evolution.

I'm honestly happy to give you any practical knowledge I have that is relevant to you. Please, just ask :]
 Quoting: Human Hybrid-Attractors 77605334


Now we're getting somewhere! Thanks for dumbing it down for me. I agree with much that you stated above, but now we get to the real meat of the matter- what is reality? And at the risk of turning this into a religious thread, which I do not wish to do- God IS both changeless and infinite, to the extent that God is both constant & consistent, yet capable of things our limited brains can not conceive. Infinite levels, yes. But how can eternity change, when by it's very definition is NOT self contained? With God all things are possible...

Getting back to the question of reality, THIS is why I come here, what is reality and more importantly what is truth? Is there a way to determine this which isn't subjective? I'm sure you're familiar with the double slit experiment, which seems to reinforce, at least to my limited intelligence, that there is no consensus, no solid "truth" or "reality". It's subjective.

I am so sorry for going off the subject matter but I am so desperately trying to find answers. Everything is such a paradox. The more I search, the more questions arise. I accept that there is much which will finally be revealed when my time on this earth is done, God will make it all understandable, and I trust and take comfort in that. But in the meantime I am like the child always asking "but why?"

I would like to hear more about your experiments, and thank you for your patience with me. I am struggling to understand, and appreciate any knowledge you might share.
 Quoting: Stella Blue 77986159


I didn't dumb it down! Do not demean yourself, even subtly. Like I said, everyone has their own language. Technical language is only "superior" in its rigor and level of detail. That's it. You are genuinely asking the fundamental questions. This, alone, makes you highly insightful. I applaud your humbleness. Scientists could learn from you. You say "I don't know", and mean it. I love that. Because you are open to shocking and wondrous truths.

What is reality? What is truth? At its highest level, reality is absolute truth. God, being ultimate reality, is absolute truth. And what is the theory of truth? Logic. But don't get intimidated. Stay with me. Logic is the theory by which humans distinguish true statements (1) and false statements (0). So, when you hear a new statement claiming a truth, your brain immediately situates the statement in a 2-valued dichotomy between falsity and truth [0, 1]. And it must do this, or else you're not paying attention to the statement. Now let's make an intriguing move. Let's translate: falsity=nonexistence (0) and truth=existence (1). This move allows us to ask the most basic factual question: is it a fact that reality exists? Is it true...that reality exists? But remember, we translated true=existence!

Original question: is it true that reality exists?
Translated question: does existence, exist?

The answer is yes. If the answer were no, THEN THE QUESTION COULD NOT BE COGNITIVELY PRODUCED. If you want to fully anchor yourself in reality, always ask yourself this: does existence exist? But then you might ask...what if don't exist? Radical doubt, right? Okay, let's retranslate...DOES SOMETHING EXIST? If you answer no, then you are simultaneously negating your expression. If a question is asked, something exists. Your question concludes with its own ending. It answers itself, even though we overlook the answer again and again and again. We all know how obviousness escapes us. Well, how about the most obvious truth of all? That something exists. Something. Existence. No need to specify it. Something exists: the most general statement conceivable.

Now...why does reality exist? Although I have already hinted at the answer in this thread (to help God evolve through our lifetimes), I will save the elaboration for later. I hope this helps.
 Quoting: Human Hybrid-Attractors 77605334


*What if (I) don't exist?* Is something (not you) asking a question? Think this through. If you ask a question, something - even if it somehow isn't this body - is generating an expression. If you breathe, something is acting. If you blink, something is active.
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Look. You cannot experimentally prove anything.
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We are in 'the doubting Thomas' part of the Bible. You read part of the book and you either believe that story or you don't.
The two witnesses start up 3 1/2 years before the return and they have powers like Moses and Jesus did. Proof God is a literal being so the prophecies reference literal events.
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Look. You cannot experimentally prove anything.
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We are in 'the doubting Thomas' part of the Bible. You read part of the book and you either believe that story or you don't.
The two witnesses start up 3 1/2 years before the return and they have powers like Moses and Jesus did. Proof God is a literal being so the prophecies reference literal events.
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Hmm. Will you elaborate?
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You lost me with the "help God evolve" comment
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Lost you, or led you? ;] Please, recognize that my brief lines on the logic of semilanguages leads us to one possible conclusion: the semilanguages must be subsumed by one metalanguage M. Your body is structurally supported in the object-level semilanguage Lo; your psyche is dynamically stratified across sectors of the relational semilanguage Ls. But we know that every distinction, be it between ants, galaxies, or semilanguages, must converge on a "medium" which itself produces the programmatic opportunity for a psyche to perceive a stable distinction. This medium must serve as a metalanguage to the psyche distinguishing its body from external objects. Distinctions are variables of syntactic rules, which relate the variables, thereby logically dissolving any absolute distinction between the variables. Right? So these semilanguages are programmatically potentializing through the metalanguage M. The only rules forced by M lie in logical syntax. M is God. Some prefer Source. Personally, I prefer to say...Reality. Our souls are the autoprogrammatic (self-deterministic) mappings *between* Lo object-states and Ls psychical-relations.

If M is the metalanguage according to which all semilanguages must operate, then God is Reality. Deny this truth, and you simultaneously deny the very stability and intelligibility of the cognitive production of your question. It's as simple as that.

The existence of God is proven, perceptually, by the utter stability of your vicinity. The vicinity's stability entails that at least this reality exists in some sense. Period. Deny this incessant facial fact, and you are deludedly, contradictorily denying your expression's very reality.

So yes, we are here to help God evolve. This sentence translates to: humans are on Earth to help Reality evolve. And by the way, this is the best possible scenario.
 Quoting: Human Hybrid-Attractors 77605334


Perhaps your god needs help but my God does not.

I have experienced premonitions and I acknowledge there are many mysteries still hidden to us... that is what attracted me to this thread.

I am no rocket scientist but I get the distinct feeling this is 5% science and 95% new age junk.

If you are a new ager I have no problem with that, it's not for me but to each their own.

However the fact that you go so ridiculously overboard with unnecessary technical language pegs my BS meter.

If you can't explain something in relatable every day language you come off as trying to sound impressive without sharing any practical information. Or maybe I need a PHD to fully understand and the fault is on my end.

Either way, live and let live... peace to you
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This person did call their work 'this disgrace'
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Look. You cannot experimentally prove anything.
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We are in 'the doubting Thomas' part of the Bible. You read part of the book and you either believe that story or you don't.
The two witnesses start up 3 1/2 years before the return and they have powers like Moses and Jesus did. Proof God is a literal being so the prophecies reference literal events.
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Hmm. Will you elaborate?
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'Signs following' were a few 'gifts' God gave His messengers to show God sent them. The writer of Revelations dies in 100AD and they were the last ones to be able to show 'proof that God was a literal being. From there until the start of Re:11, about 3 1/2 before the cross, there will be no physical proof that God is a literal being.
Ge:3:15 defined two era that have to be fulfilled before Adam and Eve's sins are forgiven. When Jesus said, 'It is finished.' just before He died He was referencing the bruise to the heel. The era that deals with the bruise to Satan's head began 3 1/2 years after the cross when Peter taught Gentiles in Acts:10. De:4 calls it 'the latter days' and the change is from saying the 'Lord's Prayer' will help you stay alive physically rather than it being a way for a person to repent their sins like Daniel does in Da:9. 'It is done.' is said by Jesus as He pours out the 7th vial. All 7 within a few hours.

The group in Re:1 will see that transition and the judgment they face is based on how they conduct themselves during the time the two witnesses are in Jerusalem. Romans:13 between 70AD (Luke:21:24) and the 1st trump and Peter:4 for the time between the 1-4th trumps (4 days) and 5th and 6th trumps (3 1/2 years).
God also calls 'the grave' the 'land of the enemy' while most people take it to means any Gentile Nation. That has more than a little difference in where you end up.
The 7 letters are 14 relationships that Jesus will use to decide who survives the 7 vials that He pours out on the same day He resurrects the two witnesses.

If the book has a version that is vastly different than all the best minds can come up with today then they are pushing something that goes against 'the evidence'. There are only so many options they have.
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I like linear. It wins the race!
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Thank you OP. On initial read, the paper has parallels to what is generally called the 'Esoteric Doctrine', relating to multiple planes (localities), cosmic consciousness, and evolution. These aspects you have encrypted in a symbolic framework blending science, math, and spirit. Chaos magicians and NLP practitioners to a certain extent also use these underlying currents in their own symbol systems and methods. I think your upgrade looks good so far, thanks for sharing.
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I’m going to read your book, was hooked after the intro.

I’m also currently reading “The Idea of the World” “A multi-disciplinary argument for the mental nature of reality” By Kastrup

Very much like you described above, you have to read books that alter your perception of reality with an open mind and at times slowly while repeatedly rereading certain thoughts and ideas. It’s much like the saying about eating an elephant, one bite at a time.
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This is a link to a book containing such a method: [link to www.academia.edu (secure)]


I am one of the authors. I formed a small group that underwent a collective metaphysical awakening. We have pseudonymously published the first part result: Incessance.

Thank you very much for your attention.
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Telepathy and precognition are just made up. Come back when scientists can experimentally prove they exist.
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Look. You cannot experimentally prove anything. Proof is logical and mathematical. You can experimentally verify and confirm...yes. Experiments provide evidence. They cannot, in principle, provide proof. Ever heard of anomalies? Every experiment is susceptible to anomalies. And guess what? We have plenty of evidence. Plenty. You are already utilizing telepathy and precognition. The issue is that mentation and perception are improperly formulated, or rather, they are incompletely formulated. Read an earlier post explaining the self-dual feedback between physical (informational) structure and mental (cognitive/abstract) dynamics. Usually, the mental aspect is excluded entirely, or incorrectly treated as physical structure. Mentation is only superficially informational. On deeper levels, mentation is programmatic. And if you exclude the mental aspect of reality, of course these abilities seem absurd. But again, every human not only has them, but uses them every single day.

We wish to heighten and extend our divine abilities.
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Based upon the above response, the responder would just like to shit-can all of science and just work on "divine abilities."
Just don't make anything up.
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Thank you OP. On initial read, the paper has parallels to what is generally called the 'Esoteric Doctrine', relating to multiple planes (localities), cosmic consciousness, and evolution. These aspects you have encrypted in a symbolic framework blending science, math, and spirit. Chaos magicians and NLP practitioners to a certain extent also use these underlying currents in their own symbol systems and methods. I think your upgrade looks good so far, thanks for sharing.
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Why thank you! Yes, essentially, there are 5 planes of existence. But the planes are more like lattices. They are also not "parallel", as this would imply mutual irrelevance. The lattices are concurrent. Picture a graph. A graph has point-vertices and relational-edges. The points are objects. The relations are transformations of objects. Now let's take the fundamental (irreducible) objects: quantum objects. Technically, we haven't specified the exact properties of these objects. We do know, though, that quantum objects are geometrical structures. We also know that geometrical structures can only transform, as in graph theory, through logical operations. In quantum mechanics, the objects are fermions and bosons, whereas the operations are their wave functions. The only two requirements for an "interaction" are objects, operations, and a configuration space, which is called a lattice. Interactions between wave functions and particle states occur in a quantum lattice.

If we move upward from quantum mechanics to quantum chemistry and molecular biology, we are moving from the particular world into atomic and molecular world. Chemical elements and compounds emerge. This lattice is vast. On contrast to the quantum lattice, we call it the structural lattice. Atomic and molecular structures are the microscopic objects that spatially support the macroscopic world. Indeed, the DNA molecule exhibits a point of criticality in the structural lattice. When the first cells emerged, the structural lattice experienced a moment of duality. Why? Because the simplest (first) cells are "alive" precisely by monitoring the *two-way feedback* between their interior organelles (mitochondria & DNA) and their exterior environments. This dual (two-way) feedback ruptured the structural lattice into...a hybrid lattice. Cells are the first entities that hybridized their constituent objects and their governing operations into...a hybrid attractor. Cells both host and execute the symbolic instructions of DNA. Every living entity is, by virtue of its internal-external feedback, a hybrid attractor of internal objects and external relations. Human bodies are hybrid-attractors, hence my username.

To the poster who accused me of seemingly shitting on science: hardly. But first, a little recap. We have the (1) quantum lattice; (2) structural lattice; (3) hybrid lattice. Science, as it is currently conceived, studies all three of these planes. In fact, the structural lattice (quantum chemistry & molecular biology) are properly dominated by science. Science is the observational method through which we can study microscopic structures and interactions. But something seriously different happens when a cell establishes two-way feedback between its interior and the ambient environment. This feedback fuses the two kinds of observation: internal and external. Internal observation is how quantum wave functions collapse into discretized (quantized) particles. External observation is how these particles extend to form atoms and molecules. But what cells discovered how to do, crucially, was to merge these modalities into a two-way feedback.

This feedback is most intensely experienced by human bodies. And yet, we have allowed science to prioritize external observation/magnification over internal mentation. This has led humans to pronounce themselves the "apex entities" of the Earth. Ha. A very premature pronouncement, humans, because just as particles compose chemicals and chemical compose cells and cells compose organisms, so too do organisms compose higher-order "organisms". Traditionally, these organisms have injected themselves into the hybrid lattice as personified apparitions of archetypes, angels, demons, ancestral spirits, and other mythical beings. To be perfectly clear, these beings exist, but NOT AS BODIES. Humans and other organisms are hybrids: we have psyches and bodies. However, these higher-order beings are not organisms are not hybrids at all. They are abstract attractors, and appropriately, their "home" is the abstract lattice. Hybrids are themselves attracted by abstractions. What do you think thoughts, aims, plans, ideals, and personality traits are? They are symbolic elements of abstract attractors. Thus, we communicate with these beings symbolically. Science, being microscopic, is only half of the equation. To study

To review:
(1) quantum lattice
(2) structural lattice
(3) hybrid lattice (or symbolic)
(4) abstract lattice

But there is a fifth, highest lattice: that of reality at large. The universe is much more than the "physically observable universe". It is a metalanguage of these lattices. It unites them; distributes over them. Type (1) and (2) lattices form the object-level semilanguage Lo. Type (3) and (4) comprise the relational-level semilanguage Ls. The feedback between semilanguages is teleological. The universe was initiated by an indestructible identity whose "wishes" and "thoughts" are the abstract attractors that act as timelines for hybrid organisms. As I emphasized before, this identity is God. So, it is valid to say: God is the universe.

(5) cosmic lattice
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OP

I’m going to read your book, was hooked after the intro.

I’m also currently reading “The Idea of the World” “A multi-disciplinary argument for the mental nature of reality” By Kastrup

Very much like you described above, you have to read books that alter your perception of reality with an open mind and at times slowly while repeatedly rereading certain thoughts and ideas. It’s much like the saying about eating an elephant, one bite at a time.
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Exactly. I'm grateful that you are giving this book a chance. It has much to teach.

Also, to others: please excuse typos. I'm horribly pressed for time.
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Agreed. I also find reading Steiner to be difficult. Dense, packed material, like this book, That is why the audio is better. It flows into you better. Learning from books / written language/ abstracts the meaning down a level, that your brain must first decipher, then interpret. When listening, it avoids that extra layer. Your level of vocabulary is also above the norm, so it takes extra effort. I will try again. You seem to be on a similar path as Steiner.
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its difficult by design. how is it that the seemingly most intelligent fall for suggestive psycobabble programming much easier than HS drop outs?

in many cases its because the drop outs instinctively reject ProGramming.

the smartest people will surely smart for it.
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There is a psyop agenda on GLP to promote a mindreading psyop.

All based on prediction logic and psychology.

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What is wrong with dualism?

It almost appears at the core of this, the author is simply trying to prove the soul. Isn't that what all spiritual endeavors lead to, proof of life after death, or at the chance there of?
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What is wrong with dualism?

It almost appears at the core of this, the author is simply trying to prove the soul. Isn't that what all spiritual endeavors lead to, proof of life after death, or at the chance there of?
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You are not wrong about our purposes. But proof of the soul is the very negation of dualism. Dualism is the paradox that results from an incomplete connection between mind-body, of information-matter. These connections are dual. And the paradox is... which aspect, mind or body, holds logical priority? The entirety of modern philosophy is shackled to this paradox. This paradox is so simple, yet deep. It is also an illusion. Dualism is missing a link that functions as a transmissive medium. This missing link is the soul. Dualism gives way to systemic self-duality. The soul, as stated earlier, is a summative (additive) identity mapping between atemporal minds and temporary bodies.

In more basic terms, every difference or separation between two (dual) objects is itself a relation. That relation will always hold priority, since it permits the differential communication between the objects. Monism wins.
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Agreed. I also find reading Steiner to be difficult. Dense, packed material, like this book, That is why the audio is better. It flows into you better. Learning from books / written language/ abstracts the meaning down a level, that your brain must first decipher, then interpret. When listening, it avoids that extra layer.
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this distinction between spoken vs written is right on.

Ive been observing the different aspects of spoken vs written word for a while now. it goes much deeper than this but that is a topic for another thread (that very few others seem interested in)

that was very well 'written' AC
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OP

I’m going to read your book, was hooked after the intro.

I’m also currently reading “The Idea of the World” “A multi-disciplinary argument for the mental nature of reality” By Kastrup

Very much like you described above, you have to read books that alter your perception of reality with an open mind and at times slowly while repeatedly rereading certain thoughts and ideas. It’s much like the saying about eating an elephant, one bite at a time.
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Exactly. I'm grateful that you are giving this book a chance. It has much to teach.

Also, to others: please excuse typos. I'm horribly pressed for time.
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OP

Have you read the book I mentioned or heard of the ideas presented in it. There is a cross section of your work and Kastrup’s that intersect.
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OP

I’m going to read your book, was hooked after the intro.

I’m also currently reading “The Idea of the World” “A multi-disciplinary argument for the mental nature of reality” By Kastrup

Very much like you described above, you have to read books that alter your perception of reality with an open mind and at times slowly while repeatedly rereading certain thoughts and ideas. It’s much like the saying about eating an elephant, one bite at a time.
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Exactly. I'm grateful that you are giving this book a chance. It has much to teach.

Also, to others: please excuse typos. I'm horribly pressed for time.
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OP

Have you read the book I mentioned or heard of the ideas presented in it. There is a cross section of your work and Kastrup’s that intersect.
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While I have watched a podcast with Kastrup, I lamentably have not read his work. But impressionistically, his version of idealism is valid. Reality is irreducibly mental. The rub is in the definition, structure, and dynamics of mentation, as well as how it relates to physical causation. Usually, a lot of cognitive details are shrugged off as "neural complexity" or "neural noise". We are failing in our studies of the brain because we are strictly considering synaptic computation occurring between neurons, and excluding quantum computation occurring internal to neurons and which effectively bypasses the locality constraint of the brain. I will read the book mentioned for more insights. Thanks for the reference. Keep experimenting with your own perception and mentation.
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For those who might like a hard copy of Incessance, and to prove to the rest of you that this is an official book, here is the amazon link: [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

Yes, it costs $9.99, but only due to amazon's printing costs for this particular binding (400 8x10 pages). We are profiting $0 from both the Kindle copy and the hard copy. We have no interest in profit or fame. Messengers, in these times, must remain hidden.

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There is no separation, this earth is a 'seed-bed' in which 'all flesh' sprouts and is saved as 'a seed'. That seed has a destiny to be sprouted when the 'new Earth' begins at the end of Re:22.
Until then the trend seems to be 'perpetual war' in some vain attempt to show the 'wars' part in the Bible is being fulfilled rather than it is part of a deception that has many sets of tracks.
Question for the OP and Co. A parachute that a man used on Earth will open at what altitude on Mars? It is a skill testing question so take your time.

Death is going to sleep, a dreamless sleep and in the next instant you are awake at the Great White Throne event. The ones that 'tried a little harder' are in the Choir at that event. The reference is Job after God has comforted him by restoring what Satan took, not once but twice, and Job it told all the people will be alive again at the same time he is as well as all the other flesh as that is the next event after Re:22 ends with new Jerusalem on earth.

Ec:3:20:
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.
Ec:12:7:
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Job:14:10-15:
But man dieth,
and wasteth away:
yea,
man giveth up the ghost,
and where is he?
As the waters fail from the sea,
and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
So man lieth down,
and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time,
and remember me!
If a man die,
shall he live again?
all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
Thou shalt call,
and I will answer thee:
thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.
Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.

If all of that set into a sequence that cannot be changed then perhaps a better look at the past will tell us what is still in store as fallen angels alone could do what this whole series covers. (playlist at link if you want to pic a topic) IMO no way we could ever have created anything shown.





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