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He was accused of claiming to be "God" and He used "Ye are Gods" as His defense. And said "you seen me, you seen The Father."

How can you see The Father if you looked at this man?
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And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

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How is it you folks mention John 20:28 but ignore what John states in verse 31..."Son of God".

28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;

31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.


Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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He was accused of claiming to be "God" and He used "Ye are Gods" as His defense. And said "you seen me, you seen The Father."

How can you see The Father if you looked at this man?
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"Image of the invisible God".

NOT the original.

SON OF God.

another do
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It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you REFUSE to mark these with "book/chapter/verse" information so that folks can do their due diligence and compare translations.

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You think anyone doing their due diligence Bible study would have any difficulty finding the verses?

[link to www.blbclassic.org]


Bonehead TLS

Give me the most obscure and unnoticed verse you can come up with.

I bet you $1000 that I can provide your verse citation for you within one minute?

What do you say, smart antichrist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000


Your arrogance precedes you - demon.

Have respect for others and post the necessary citations for the verses.

Stop being a biotch.
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And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000


How is it you folks mention John 20:28 but ignore what John states in verse 31..."Son of God".

28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;

31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.


Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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No as by your own definition, since "God" is omnipotent and omnipresent, He can be all places at once. In both Spirit and human form at the same time.
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And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."



John 20:28,29
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000


How is it you folks mention John 20:28 but ignore what John states in verse 31..."Son of God".

28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;

31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.


Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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He was accused of claiming to be "God" and He used "Ye are Gods" as His defense. And said "you seen me, you seen The Father."

How can you see The Father if you looked at this man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059705


"Image of the invisible God".

NOT the original.

SON OF God.

another do
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So when you look in the mirror you see The Father?
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Even The Angels are ALOHIM and Sons of ALOHIM.

You still haven't answered CONVENIENTLY, Why Christ says "Ye are ALOHIM" in His defense about Him claiming to be ALOHIM.
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No as by your own definition, since "God" is omnipotent and omnipresent, He can be all places at once. In both Spirit and human form at the same time.
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Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Or how about when Jesus told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Or how about when Jesus told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT the Father Himself.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Isaiah 43


But now, thus says the LORD, who created you, O Jacob,
And He who formed you, O Israel:
"Fear not, for I have redeemed you;
I have called you by your name;
You are Mine.

When you pass through the waters, I will be with you;
And through the rivers, they shall not overflow you.
When you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned,
Nor shall the flame scorch you.

For I am the LORD your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior
;
I gave Egypt for your ransom,
Ethiopia and Seba in your place.

Since you were precious in My sight,
You have been honored,
And I have loved you;
Therefore I will give men for you,
And people for your life.

Fear not, for I am with you;
I will bring your descendants from the east,
And gather you from the west;

I will say to the north, 'Give them up!'
And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!'
Bring My sons from afar,
And My daughters from the ends of the earth—

Everyone who is called by My name,
Whom I have created for My glory
;
I have formed him, yes, I have made him."

Bring out the blind people who have eyes,
And the deaf who have ears.

Let all the nations be gathered together,
And let the people be assembled.
Who among them can declare this,
And show us former things?
Let them bring out their witnesses, that they may be justified;
Or let them hear and say, "It is truth."

"You are My witnesses," says the LORD,
"And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He
.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.

I, even I, am the LORD,
And besides Me there is no savior
.

I have declared and saved,
I have proclaimed
,
And there was no foreign god among you;
Therefore you are My witnesses,"
Says the LORD, "that I am God.

Indeed before the day was, I am He;
And there is no one who can deliver out of My hand;
I work, and who will reverse it?"

Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer,
The Holy One of Israel
:
"For your sake I will send to Babylon,
And bring them all down as fugitives—
The Chaldeans, who rejoice in their ships.

I am the LORD, your Holy One,
The Creator of Israel, your King
."

Thus says the LORD, who makes a way in the sea
And a path through the mighty waters,

Who brings forth the chariot and horse,
The army and the power
(They shall lie down together, they shall not rise;
They are extinguished, they are quenched like a wick):

"Do not remember the former things,
Nor consider the things of old.

Behold, I will do a new thing,
Now it shall spring forth;
Shall you not know it?

I will even make a road in the wilderness
And rivers in the desert.

The beast of the field will honor Me,
The jackals and the ostriches,
Because I give waters in the wilderness
And rivers in the desert,
To give drink to My people, My chosen.

This people I have formed for Myself;
They shall declare My praise.

"But you have not called upon Me, O Jacob;
And you have been weary of Me, O Israel.

You have not brought Me the sheep for your burnt offerings,
Nor have you honored Me with your sacrifices.
I have not caused you to serve with grain offerings,
Nor wearied you with incense.

You have bought Me no sweet cane with money,
Nor have you satisfied Me with the fat of your sacrifices;
But you have burdened Me with your sins,
You have wearied Me with your iniquities.

"I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake;
And I will not remember your sins.


Put Me in remembrance;
Let us contend together;
State your case, that you may be acquitted.

Your first father sinned,
And your mediators have transgressed against Me.

Therefore I will profane the princes of the sanctuary;
I will give Jacob to the curse,
And Israel to reproaches.



Isaiah 43:1-28
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LORD, Lord and lord in the King James Version - Holy Scriptures

When written in all caps, LORD stands in for the Tetragrammaton YHWH; [mistakenly] pronounced Yahweh by some, and [correctly] Jehovah by others.
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No as by your own definition, since "God" is omnipotent and omnipresent, He can be all places at once. In both Spirit and human form at the same time.
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Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Or how about when Jesus told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Or how about when Jesus told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT the Father Himself.
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Nobody birthed God but himself.
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No as by your own definition, since "God" is omnipotent and omnipresent, He can be all places at once. In both Spirit and human form at the same time.
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Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Or how about when Jesus told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Or how about when Jesus told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT the Father Himself.
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Nobody birthed God but himself.
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This explains the virgin birth and also the beginning of time.
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Nobody birthed God but himself.
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"birthed God"?

bonghit another do
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Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Or how about when Jesus told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Or how about when Jesus told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT the Father Himself.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Nobody birthed God but himself.
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WHAT are you smoking dude?

Father God has ALWAYS existed.

What Jesus said was that He is the SON OF God.

WHAT part of that is it that you can't understand?

You are EITHER REJECTING what Jesus SAID....

....OR....

Jesus Himself is restricting YOUR access to the Father.


boom
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Name one man who could get away with the quote: "He who has seen Me, has seen The Father."


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When you take it out of context, and
it is ALL HEARSAY to begin with, your
just blowing smoke.
NONE OF IT CHANGES THE MESSAGE OF CHRIST.
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If your own words,

to the best of your understanding and belief,

what is the message of Jesus Christ?
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When you take it out of context, and
it is ALL HEARSAY to begin with, your
just blowing smoke.
NONE OF IT CHANGES THE MESSAGE OF CHRIST.
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In your own words,
to the best of your understanding and belief,
what is the message of Jesus Christ?


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Why do you mix and match the Old Testament
and the New Testament?

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The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed.

The Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.

.
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You're not worth the bandwidth.
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Shit on worthless him...
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I have FULL faith in the SON OF God.

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Tell us about your FULL faith in the SON OF Man.
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It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you REFUSE to mark these with "book/chapter/verse" information so that folks can do their due diligence and compare translations.

verysad goaway

I am the bread of life.
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And they said, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know?
How is it then that He says, 'I have come down from heaven'?"

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Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.
"Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

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"But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.
And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."

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 Quoting: TheLordsServant


It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you think everybody is such a retard that none of them would even know how to look up a Bible verse if they wanted to do so.

It's truly SAD that deceived deceiver antichrist you thinks this is any substantive argument in your futile and impotent war to deny the Divinity of Jesus Christ.
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Who's deceiving whom?

Jesus CLEARLY SAID "I am the SON OF God".

Period. Case closed.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Jesus CLEARLY SAID "I am the SON OF God".
 Quoting: TheLordsServant

Verse?



He is, of course, but others called Him and asked Him that.

He called Himself the Son of Man.

Why?

And why don't you like that?

The Son of God Son of Man Jesus Christ Yeshua HaMashiach God Incarnate With Us Among Us.
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"God cannot die"

Well name one man who can Ressurect himself?
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The meatsuit lives and dies at His command.

All meatsuits live and die at His command...


Stupid argument to begin with... Figures again with him...
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God Himself didn't die for us. God CANNOT die.
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Jesus Christ is EXACTLY how GOD HIMSELF DIED FOR US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Where was Jesus before His body?
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"God cannot die"

Well name one man who can Ressurect himself?
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The meatsuit lives and dies at His command.

All meatsuits live and die at His command...


Stupid argument to begin with... Figures again with him...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000


I see dead leaves.

Who can resurrect the leaves and change the seasons?

I would rather see that than a man resurrected.
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God can't?!

The body occupied by Jesus presents some problem for Jesus?

Was He OK before He came as a Man?

Was He OK if He departed again from that Man?

Was it OK with YOU for HIM to raise that body to His Life again?

Is it OK with YOU if He remains in that body for all eternity now?

Does He need your permission?

Does He need your approval?

Is He greater than your mere understanding that seeks to limit Him to that only like what you and your father can and cannot do?!
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the only way that Jesus could maintain His oneness with God the Father was by denying his own identity as God himself...and gave all praise to His Father

that should be proof enough
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Matthew 18
1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying,
Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him,
and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted,
and become as little children, ye shall not enter
into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child,
the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

5 And whoso shall receive one such little child
in my name receiveth me.

6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones
which believe in me, it were better for him that a
millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were
drowned in the depth of the sea.

Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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TLS knucklehead,

The entire basis of your position is that God cannot come to us as a man.

Why do you say that The Creator of all the universe and everything in it and every man that has ever existed
cannot also come to as a man if He wants to do so?

Why do you say God can't?

Simple question.
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the only way that Jesus could maintain His oneness with God the Father was by denying his own identity as God himself...and gave all praise to His Father

that should be proof enough
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UTTER NONSENSE.

Go READ what Jesus SAID.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More


...the Father SENT me John 12:49-50
...the Father is GREATER than I. John 14:28 & John 10:29
...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39
...I PRAY to the Father. Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50
...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19 & John 8:28
...I give THANKS to the Father. John 11:41
...I don't KNOW when I will return...ONLY the Father KNOWS. Matthew 24:36
...I tell you to ask the Father in MY name. John 14:13
...I go to sit at the Father's right hand. Matthew 26:64 Mark 16:19
...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD. John 20:17
...the Father has given me authority. Matthew 28:18
...only the Father is good.. Luke 18:19
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.





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