Jesus is God

I can quote Scripture all day. You can quote Scripture all day.

Neither of us changes anything.

I believe Jesus is God.

You insist Jesus is not God.

One of us is wrong.

Seems you are both correct.
He walked the Earth as a man.
He is now "one with the Father"
and He's been watching. He knows
if you've been bad or good, so...
...you know the rest.

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1 Corinthians 15:28

When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

You disagree with Jesus' OWN words? Matthew 16? John 3:16?

Then you are NOT a follower of the Way.



Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Why does the phrase "Son OF God" exist?

Because it's the TRUTH!

...the Father SENT me John 12:49-50
...the Father is GREATER than I. John 14:28 & John 10:29
...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39
...I PRAY to the Father. Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50
...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19 & John 8:28
...I give THANKS to the Father. Luke 10:21 & John 11:41
...I don't KNOW when I will return...ONLY the Father KNOWS. Matthew 24:36
...I tell you to ask the Father in MY name. John 14:13
...I go to sit at the Father's right hand. Matthew 26:64 Mark 16:19
...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD. John 20:17
...the Father has given me authority. Matthew 28:18
...only the Father is good.. Luke 18:19

Wrong. Vishnu and Krishna were both God-incarnate as was their reincarnation of Jesus son of Joseph. GOD: everything, everywhere, and everyone... Don't make the BIG mistake of confusing GOD and God-incarnate.

TheLordsServant,

We are all sons and daughters of GOD. Jesus son of Joseph was the reincarnated God-incarnate.

Do u still hold it against Paul for when he used to kick against the goats ? Acts 26:14

God didn't die on the cross. Father God CANNOT die.

Jesus - the Son OF God - did, but only His human body, which He raised Himself by commandment of the Father.

Resurrection is NOT reincarnation.

"...kick against the goats?"
What does Paul have to do with it?
Why he is not mentioned ANYWHERE
in the Gospels of M,M,L and J? Meh.

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There is no "God incarnate" in Monotheism

The Bible says: "the Word of God" incarnated, not God.

What is your argument?

How does the panopticon, or even Santa Claus, compare to God's ways ?

Jehovah was “ready to forgive” a sinner who turned back from his wayward course, manifesting true repentance.---Psalm 86:5.

For you, O Jehovah, are good and ready to forgive;
You abound in loyal love for all those who call on you.

What about the sins he had committed? “All his transgressions that he has committed—they will not be remembered against him,” Jehovah explained. (Ezekiel 33:22)
Notice that the repentant one’s sins would “not be remembered against him.” Why is this significant?

In the Bible, the Hebrew word translated “remember” can mean more than just to recall the past.
Regarding this word, one reference work says: “Quite often, in fact, [it] implies an action or appears in combination with verbs of action.”
Thus, “to remember” can mean “to act.”

Hence, when Jehovah says of a repentant sinner that his sins “will not be remembered against him,”
He is saying that He will not thereafter act against the individual because of those sins, such as by accusing or punishing him.*

No mention of the name "Jehova" in the NT.
The Creator of All is known by many names
and has no need for worship or blood sacrifices.
Revelation 2:6
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

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Hate! Hate!! Hate!!!

You asked about Santa Claus (Nicolas).

you are taking that verse out of context. That verse was written to/about the church of ephesus.

Revelation 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

the verse you quoted has NOTHING to do with santa claus and all you are really trying to so is mock not only GOD, but his only begotten son Jesus also.

nobody is falling for that crap.

Jesus Christ Yeshua HaMashiach The Son of God The Son of Man

IS GOD

or IS NOT GOD.

Both of you, what are "the deeds of the Nicolaitans"?

Ho Ho Ho!
There are plenty more that you are
obviously "not interested" in reading.
It is written about the church in Pergamos,
and they live on to this day, along with
every other culture that seeks control through
mysticism, fear and guilt, such as the Pharisees.
The names are changed to protect the guilty.

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GOD

Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it.
A person can even let his belly be a god. (Ro 16:18; Php 3:18, 19)

The Bible makes mention of many gods (Ps 86:8; 1Co 8:5, 6), but it shows that the gods of the nations are valueless gods.—Ps 96:5.

Hebrew Terms.
Among the Hebrew words that are translated “God” is ʼEl, probably meaning “Mighty One; Strong One.” (Ge 14:18)

It is used with reference to Jehovah, to other gods, and to men.
It is also used extensively in the makeup of proper names, such as Elisha (meaning “God Is Salvation”) and Michael (“Who Is Like God?”).
In some places 'El appears with the definite article (ha El', literally, “the God”) with reference to Jehovah, thereby distinguishing him from other gods.—Ge 46:3; 2Sa 22:31.

At Isaiah 9:6 Jesus Christ is prophetically called ʼEl Gibbohrʹ, “Mighty God” (not ʼEl Shaddaiʹ [God Almighty], which is applied to Jehovah at Genesis 17:1).
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Sorry I didn't answer before, and this may not be the complete answer, either. Can't try to figure that out better right now. Just barely alert enough atm, which is frankly not always the case, but now out of time...

Kang Gibbohr

Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Or how about when Jesus told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Or how about when Jesus told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT the Father Himself.

Says who? Aramaic was / is a "sister language" to Hebrew.

Jesus - as the Son Of God - could probably speak any known language.

Most of the Dead Sea Scrolls were written in Hebrew, as were the Torah scrolls being used in synagogues of the day.

And a growing number of Biblical scholars are coming to the conclusion that much of the New Testament was probably written in Hebrew due to the large amount of Hebraisms used.

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MORE PROOF for Hebrew being spoken and read.

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE J*e*v*s.

John 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

John 19:17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:

19:20 This title then read many of the jewish: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.

......

Acts 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying,

Acts 22:1 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.
2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)

Acts 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

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