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the ALpha and Omega
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your argument is weak.

Zizanzo the Dancing Ring Tailed Lemur is the alpha</>Omega I have him registered as such. Jesus can back the fuck off from this claim!
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He was doing the Father's Will - and saying what the Father had TOLD Him to say. another do

...the Father is GREATER than I. John 14:28 & John 10:29

14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

...the Father SENT me
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19 & John 8:28

5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


You mean the "will" that was already given to Moses for the Children of Israel? The more you respond the more clear we can all see that you are trying to pick and choose what you want as part of your religion for 1.
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The Will of the Father that the Hebrews kept REJECTING - which caused them to be kicked to the curb for 1900 years.
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I accept and agree with every word of Scripture you post.

You disagree with every word of Scripture I post.

hmm

And you're a cowardly banning pussy.
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Funny...you're user ID isn't on my ban list.

I disagree with your CONCLUSIONS.

There's ONE God - the Father. Jesus makes it clear.

Jesus is the SON of God. He told Peter such.

Did Jesus LIE to Peter?

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Did Jesus LIE to Mary Magdalene?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
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Amen.
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A man can't be God. And God can't be a man.
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Lol
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God is feminine..and in heaven.
But the macro is a reflection of the micro..
Figure that out if you want.
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The Acts 13:23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:


2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:


Titus 1:4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.


Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;


2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:


2 Peter 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.


2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.


The ONLY ambiguous verse containing "Jesus" and "Saviour":


1 Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;
(remove the comma; no commas in original writings.)


Considering there is only 1 Saviour, Jesus must be God and misunderstanding that is OUR OWN fault.

Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
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You're right, the misunderstanding is your fault for not being able to rightly divide the books that you claim to follow.

My recommendation:
1. Realize that Paul is the basis of your faith. Notice how you had to quote everything but the gospels to prove your point?

2. Come to an understanding that the NT is contrived, misquotes the OT, and that Jesus contradicts the OT. He also failed at coming back and only came for the "lost sheep of israel".

3. Reread the OT and see that it is only for the j-ws and is about their tribal god who is a petty tyrant. It has nothing to with anyone but the j-ws.

4. Remember that you aren't a j-w and move on with your life. Be a good person and be the change you want to see in the world instead of waiting for a long dead j-w to come and save you.
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Notice, how you dismiss the disciples of Jesus as liars and blasphemous regarding him, if you can, Satanist.

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The Acts 13:23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

Titus 1:4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

2 Peter 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

The ONLY ambiguous verse containing "Jesus" and "Saviour":

1 Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;
(remove the comma; no commas in original writings.)

Considering there is only 1 Saviour, Jesus must be God and misunderstanding that is OUR OWN fault.

Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
 Quoting: Jesus is also the Father God


NONE of those verses are Yeshua's WORDS.

Father God speaking in Hosea is truth because He had "the plan".

"The plan" was to SEND his only-begotten son.

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jesus didn't "send Himself".
God didn't "send Himself".

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Who sent Jesus?
Who TOLD Jesus what to say?
Who did Jesus LEARN from?
Who's WILL is it that Jesus does?
Who does Jesus pray to?
Who does Jesus SHOW us to pray to?
Who does Jesus give thanks to just before raising Lazarus?
Who gave Jesus power over heaven and earth?
Who is "God" / "the Father" / "He who sent me"...that Jesus mentions over 230 times in the 4 Gospels?
Who sits on the throne and hands the Scroll with Seven Seals to "the Lamb" in Revelation 5?
Who's "right hand" does Jesus sit at in heaven?
Who is it that Jesus had to return to in heaven?

The FATHER!
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You have to go through the Son to get to the Father. The Father sent His Son


Obviously two separate individuals. They both have different names too

Father - Jehovah
Son - Jesus


Pretty simple
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Variations of the name John in different cultures:
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]




By the way his name is...

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

(post-Abraham)




To be fair though...



Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
(pre-Moses)



But let us not forget...




Deuteronomy 28:58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;


And...


Psalms 68:4 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.


And...


Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


And...


Isaiah 48:2 For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name.

Isaiah 51:15 But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name.

Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.



And...


Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,


And...


Amos 4:13 For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name.



And...


Amos 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.



So consider...



Isaiah 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

And

Isaiah 65:14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isaiah 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

And

St. Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

And

Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
(No mention of Son)

And

Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

And

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

And

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.



JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY.

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My Lord and my God!

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So is the anomaly.
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You have to go through the Son to get to the Father. The Father sent His Son

Obviously two separate individuals. They both have different names too

Father - Jehovah
Son - Jesus

Pretty simple
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Variations of the name John in different cultures:
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

By the way his name is...

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

(post-Abraham)

To be fair though...

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
(pre-Moses)

But let us not forget...

Deuteronomy 28:58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;

And...

Psalms 68:4 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.

And...

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
NONE of these titles are found ANYWHERE ELSE in scripture.

And...

Isaiah 48:2 For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name.

Isaiah 51:15 But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name. WHEN does Jesus say "I am the Lord" OR "I and God"??? NOWHERE!

Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

And...

Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,

And...

Amos 4:13 For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name.

And...

Amos 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

So consider...

Isaiah 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

And

Isaiah 65:14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Isaiah 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

And

St. Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

LUKE 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called
the Son of the Highest
: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:


And

Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
(No mention of Son)

And

Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

And

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Who is Jesus' "MY God"? The FATHER!!!!

And

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
"WORD of God" - Not God Himself.

JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY.
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Jesus doesn't speak during OT times.

The Father DOES!

I highlighted some things above that you are severaly overlooking.
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My Lord and my God!

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How is it you folks mention John 20:28 but ignore what John states in verse 31..."Son of God".

28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.


Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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My Lord and my God!

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28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.



John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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Amen.
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Listen and obey. Christ said that he is the "only begotten Son of God"? People with itchy ears, only pay attention to Matthew 16:18, but ignore what prceeds it.

The rock Christ's Church is built upon, is the rock of Peter's faith. What was Peter's Faith?


Matthew 16:13-18

13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


Who is Jesus Christ? If you cannot obey the simple things given, do not waste your time contemplating on the more advanced matters of Heaven.

For Christ asked who he was, Peter answered. The answered Peter gave Jesus Christ, pleased Christ so greatly, he made sure to show us how important of a belief it was, by making Peter the rock of his Church.

If you will not obey the rock of the Church, then begone from the assembly of Christ, and call yourself a Christian no more.

You have no excuse for your error, repent and sin no more.
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"The Church" = those that believe: Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
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the ALpha and Omega
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the ALpha and Omega
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God people are stupid.

Jesus is not God. Numbers 23:19 says he is not a man NOR a human being.

To believe otherwise means you belong to Satan.
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God people are stupid.

Jesus is not God. Numbers 23:19 says he is not a man NOR a human being.

To believe otherwise means you belong to Satan.
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The context is dual, no, he was not a man (yet). Did you k kw that Isiah 9:6 are the words of God speaking? God said a child will be born u to Israel and his name shall be called The Everlasting Father and The Mighty God.
And the second context is that he is not LIKE man in that man is lower in his ways compared to the ways of God; man lies and steal and God does not. Here it is in the full context:

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

He's never at fault, never can sin, doesn't lie, always keeps his promises...

The equivalent of Numbers 23:19 today is a believer saying God IS good, all the time! If you have doubts about that, which said verse is trying to assure us that we shouldn't, you're faith is not perfect and you're definitely screwed in that thinking.

Does it say God will never be a man? No. Abraham said God would provide HIMSELF as a lamb for sacrifice. John sees Jesus, God in the flesh (you saw those verses right?) and says behold the Lamb of God. Go reread the bible, you seem to ignore the verses directly equating Jesus to the only God like I have ignored TLS's account.
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TLS is trapped by knowledge of ancient Israeli culture, in co trast to his k knowledge of the world he lives in today.

The Hebrews would say, God begat a son.
I understand where they are coming from but I tell people, God created a body for himself. They understand that better because they're not fucking Hebrew!

But because the ancients speech and understanding was that if a being came forth from you it was your child, hence Jesus who claimed to proceed forth from God, thusly was and is the only begotten Son of God, a mere title and way of looking at what happened and understanding it with ancient perception.

Or, he is the fullness of God in bodily form, something the bi le says. Or, he is the image of the invisible God, something the bible says. Or, he is God as a man, something the bible says. Or, he is the uncreated-Creator, who is Jesus, in the body he made for himself, which is the body of Jesus, being 1 God with 1 personality, something I say to people, and they understand it because we're non-Hebrews.
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Jesus the heavenly father the normally are one. Disagree then hell is your home.
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Pride prevents one from admitting they're wrong, especially when they consider the consequences ce of their mental belief structure comes crashing down. Some harder than others. It's a risk many are not willing to take even when presented with the k knowledge and power of the truth, but many do as well and accept they were wrong and take up the new and move the fuck on in truth. Unfortunately sin is like rust and even if God gets rid of the rust the end can still be too corrupted from a filthy lifestyle and the koolaid of learning from MAN alone when Jesus said ONLY THE MESSIAH IS YOUR TEACHER can turn you into another one for the count of destruction. There are so many people perishing the God says he will even expend them at the cost of providing and saving his children whom he loves and who love him. Fuck them and fuck you if you can't be wrong, because I can be! And by "fuck you" literally translates to "I'm frustrated with you" from my heart and intent. Of course being o line makes it easier to say that, but Jesus knows my meaning of it is true.
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TLS is trapped by knowledge of ancient Israeli culture, in co trast to his k knowledge of the world he lives in today.

The Hebrews would say, God begat a son.
I understand where they are coming from but I tell people, God created a body for himself. They understand that better because they're not fucking Hebrew!

But because the ancients speech and understanding was that if a being came forth from you it was your child, hence Jesus who claimed to proceed forth from God, thusly was and is the only begotten Son of God, a mere title and way of looking at what happened and understanding it with ancient perception.

Or, he is the fullness of God in bodily form, something the bi le says. Or, he is the image of the invisible God, something the bible says. Or, he is God as a man, something the bible says. Or, he is the uncreated-Creator, who is Jesus, in the body he made for himself, which is the body of Jesus, being 1 God with 1 personality, something I say to people, and they understand it because we're non-Hebrews.
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I'm not trapped by anything Festus.

I BELIEVE what Jesus said.

You take a mix of a few verses of what He said and mix them with a few verses of what others said to come to a twisted conclusion.

Yet you CANNOT get around these FACTS.

1. Jesus admitted to Peter that He was the "Son of the Living God". Period.

2. Jesus said He was "SENT". Sending requires authority. The Father has authority over the Son.

3. Jesus said He "learned from the Father" by both watching Him AND "being taught.

4. Jesus told Mary Magdalene that He was going to ascend to "My Father / My God". Put that together with "I will sit at the Father's Right Hand" - and you have 2 distinct BEINGS.

5. Jesus told Pilate that He was "born" to be King. Paul said Jesus was "firstborn of creation". Jesus speaks to the Father in John 17:3 stating that He was "with the Father before the world was".

Once you accept those FACTS, it's clear that when Jesus said "the Father and I are one", and when Paul said "image of the invisible God", that Jesus is of the same "substance" as the Father. "Cut from the same cloth" would be a close analogy, as would also the word "clone" comes to mind.

As the Son OF God, Jesus has IMMENSE powers. Yet He specifically told the Apostles "I've been GIVEN power over heaven and earth".

Given by whom? The Father!
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TLS is trapped by knowledge of ancient Israeli culture, in co trast to his k knowledge of the world he lives in today.
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You're version of Jesus is....

Jesus SENT Jesus?
Jesus does Jesus' WILL?
Jesus gave thanks to Himself?
Jesus learned from Himself?
Jesus tells us to pray to Him?
Jesus gave power to Himself?
Jesus sits at His OWN "right hand"?
Jesus gave authority over heaven and earth to Himself?

Jesus hands the scroll to Himself in Revelation 5?

Jesus won't tell Himself when to return until He decides to?


1doh1

Who is Jesus' Father - OUR Father?

Where in the 4000+ year of time that the Old Testament cover...does God pray to Himself?

Give thanks to Himself?

So....

Jesus LIED when He said He was the Son OF God?

Jesus LIED when He said the Father is greater than Himself?

Jesus prayed to Himself in Gethsemane?
God prays to Himself?

Jesus keeps secrets from Himself?
God keeps secrets from Himself?

Jesus learned from Himself?
God learns from Himself?

Jesus ascended to Himself?
God ascended to Himself?

Jesus gave power to Himself?
God gave power to Himself?

Jesus sits at His own Right Hand?
God sits at His own Right Hand?

Jesus is greater than Himself?
God is greater than Himself?

Jesus will tell Himself when to return?
God will tell Himself when to return?

Jesus gives thanks to Himself?
God gives thanks to Himself?


Too stupid for words.

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did god forsake Jesus on the cross?

or was Jesus a liar?


Jesus was declared a god in 325.

Bishops around the world were threatened with excommunication, exile and death if they did not sign the creed.
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We're a) gods. Jesus said so.
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We're a) gods. Jesus said so.
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We're all gods, Jesus said so.
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We're a) gods. Jesus said so.
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We're all gods, Jesus said so.
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Actually it was originally King David, but I'm sure you knew that.





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