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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78088000 United States 10/18/2019 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 14:27 While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!" And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their faces and were greatly afraid. But Jesus came and touched them and said, "Arise, and do not be afraid." When they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no one but Jesus only. Matthew 17:5-8 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, "Rejoice!" So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me." Matthew 28:9,10 While He was still speaking, some came from the ruler of the synagogue's house who said, "Your daughter is dead. Why trouble the Teacher any further?" As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, He said to the ruler of the synagogue, "Do not be afraid; only believe." Mark 5:35,36 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78088000 United States 10/18/2019 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isaiah 43 But now, thus says the LORD, who created you, O Jacob, And He who formed you, O Israel: "Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by your name; You are Mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; And through the rivers, they shall not overflow you. When you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned, Nor shall the flame scorch you. For I am the LORD your God, The Holy One of Israel, your Savior; I gave Egypt for your ransom, Ethiopia and Seba in your place. Since you were precious in My sight, You have been honored, And I have loved you; Therefore I will give men for you, And people for your life. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the east, And gather you from the west; I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth— Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him." Bring out the blind people who have eyes, And the deaf who have ears. Let all the nations be gathered together, And let the people be assembled. Who among them can declare this, And show us former things? Let them bring out their witnesses, that they may be justified; Or let them hear and say, "It is truth." "You are My witnesses," says the LORD, "And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the LORD, And besides Me there is no savior. I have declared and saved, I have proclaimed, And there was no foreign god among you; Therefore you are My witnesses," Says the LORD, "that I am God. Indeed before the day was, I am He; And there is no one who can deliver out of My hand; I work, and who will reverse it?" Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: "For your sake I will send to Babylon, And bring them all down as fugitives— The Chaldeans, who rejoice in their ships. I am the LORD, your Holy One, The Creator of Israel, your King." Thus says the LORD, who makes a way in the sea And a path through the mighty waters, Who brings forth the chariot and horse, The army and the power (They shall lie down together, they shall not rise; They are extinguished, they are quenched like a wick): "Do not remember the former things, Nor consider the things of old. Behold, I will do a new thing, Now it shall spring forth; Shall you not know it? I will even make a road in the wilderness And rivers in the desert. The beast of the field will honor Me, The jackals and the ostriches, Because I give waters in the wilderness And rivers in the desert, To give drink to My people, My chosen. This people I have formed for Myself; They shall declare My praise. "But you have not called upon Me, O Jacob; And you have been weary of Me, O Israel. You have not brought Me the sheep for your burnt offerings, Nor have you honored Me with your sacrifices. I have not caused you to serve with grain offerings, Nor wearied you with incense. You have bought Me no sweet cane with money, Nor have you satisfied Me with the fat of your sacrifices; But you have burdened Me with your sins, You have wearied Me with your iniquities. "I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake; And I will not remember your sins. Put Me in remembrance; Let us contend together; State your case, that you may be acquitted. Your first father sinned, And your mediators have transgressed against Me. Therefore I will profane the princes of the sanctuary; I will give Jacob to the curse, And Israel to reproaches. Isaiah 43:1-28 |
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hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States 10/18/2019 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He said The Father's kingdom... Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/18/2019 01:34 AM Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78088000 United States 10/18/2019 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78071887 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's. 1Corinthians 6:19,20 Were you called while a slave? Do not be concerned about it; but if you can be made free, rather use it. For he who is called in the Lord while a slave is the Lord's freedman. Likewise he who is called while free is Christ's slave. You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. 1Corinthians 7:21-23 For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78071887 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Acts 20:27-29 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78071887 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory. In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. Ephesians 1:11-14 |
hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States 10/18/2019 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 18:36 says you were trolling the second you decided to post in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059705 And that John was a student of Saul the Pharisee. John 18:34 “Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?” I'm not the one claiming that "Jesus is God" or adding the word "correctly" to a verse, which alters it's meaning. Clearly Christ is telling Pilate that He is being sentenced to death on the trumped up charge of being some warrior king the Pharisees have been waiting for. To this day they say He was not the Messiah because he denied it. He committed NO CRIME, except for speaking truth to their tyranny. He did NOT even go by the name "Jesus" when He was here. That's just another one of Saul's MANY, MANY lies. And, again, what does any of this have to do with OUR PURPOSE HERE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing. This is like a bunch of lawyers arguing about what "is" is. What are any of you doing to make your world a better place? Nothing! Stop yammering about the hereafter and get to work on the HERE AND NOW, where God put us. I doubt any of you have children because real fathers have bigger things to worry about than this pathetic Trivial Pursuit game here. Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/18/2019 02:46 AM Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059705 Canada 10/18/2019 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 18:36 says you were trolling the second you decided to post in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059705 And that John was a student of Saul the Pharisee. John 18:34 “Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?” I'm not the one claiming that "Jesus is God" or adding the word "correctly" to a verse, which alters it's meaning. Clearly Christ is telling Pilate that He is being sentenced to death on the trumped up charge of being some warrior king the Pharisees have been waiting for. To this day they say He was not the Messiah because he denied it. He committed NO CRIME, except for speaking truth to their tyranny. He did NOT even go by the name "Jesus" when He was here. That's just another one of Saul's MANY, MANY lies. And, again, what does any of this have to do with OUR PURPOSE HERE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing. This is like a bunch of lawyers arguing about what "is" is. What are any of you doing to make your world a better place? Nothing! Stop yammering about the hereafter and get to work on the HERE AND NOW, where God put us. Again you neglect the fact that He said Earth isnt His Kingdom. He did not deny He had a Kingdom. Hell isnt His Kingdom. So that leaves Heaven. No man can suggest Heaven is His Kingdom unless He were God. Admit your troll and move on. |
hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States 10/18/2019 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He said that while being called a "king." He mentioned The Father's Kingdom more times than I care to count all through the NT. This is a troll thread dumbass. Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/18/2019 02:51 AM Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059705 Canada 10/18/2019 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 18:36 says you were trolling the second you decided to post in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059705 And that John was a student of Saul the Pharisee. John 18:34 “Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?” I'm not the one claiming that "Jesus is God" or adding the word "correctly" to a verse, which alters it's meaning. Clearly Christ is telling Pilate that He is being sentenced to death on the trumped up charge of being some warrior king the Pharisees have been waiting for. To this day they say He was not the Messiah because he denied it. He committed NO CRIME, except for speaking truth to their tyranny. He did NOT even go by the name "Jesus" when He was here. That's just another one of Saul's MANY, MANY lies. And, again, what does any of this have to do with OUR PURPOSE HERE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing. This is like a bunch of lawyers arguing about what "is" is. What are any of you doing to make your world a better place? Nothing! Stop yammering about the hereafter and get to work on the HERE AND NOW, where God put us. I doubt any of you have children because real fathers have bigger things to worry about than this pathetic Trivial Pursuit game here. Elijah did miracles like Christ and yet he wasnt blamed for being Christ, King or Messiah like Christ was and was even taken to Heaven without dying. Which means when Christ said "before Abraham, I am," they knew His claim to be ALOHIM. |
hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States 10/18/2019 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you mix and match the Old Testament and the New Testament? And take it all out of context? Because YOU ARE THE TROLL HERE. And none of it changes the purpose for which we are here. Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/18/2019 02:57 AM Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059705 Canada 10/18/2019 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He said that while being called a "king." Quoting: hillbilly He mentioned The Father's Kingdom more times than I care to count all through the NT. This is a troll thread dumbass. Well if He kept explicitely saying it was His Kingdom and He was God, He would have been crucified long before He finished His purpose. If He said "I am The Father" instead of saying "Me and The Father are one" and "Anyone who seen me has seen The Father", nevermind...I forgot about that important part: Name one man who could get away with the quote: "He who has seen Me, has seen The Father." Your trolling has been pwned. |
hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States 10/18/2019 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you take it out of context, and it is ALL HEARSAY to begin with, your just blowing smoke. NONE OF IT CHANGES THE MESSAGE OF CHRIST. Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059705 Canada 10/18/2019 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you mix and match the Old Testament Quoting: hillbilly and the New Testament? And take it all out of context? Because YOU ARE THE TROLL HERE. Isaiah 9:6 says The Child born is ALOHIM and Father. And Christ born a man said: "He who seen Me has seen The Father." Since Christ actually read the scroll of Isaiah in the New Testament, what do you think He thought of Isaiah 9:6? And here Christ EXPLICITELY EXPLAINS HE FULFILLS THE DUY OF THE MESSIAH, WHOM IS KING OF YSREAL AND ALOHIM: Luke 4:17-21 17 and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”[a] 20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” |
hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States 10/18/2019 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your version (surprise) left some out: Luke 4:18 (KJV) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, Should I pull up some of your BS troll posts from the past 12 days to entertain the other readers here? Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/18/2019 03:52 AM Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059705 Canada 10/18/2019 03:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you take it out of context, and Quoting: hillbilly it is ALL HEARSAY to begin with, your just blowing smoke. NONE OF IT CHANGES THE MESSAGE OF CHRIST. "Ye are ALOHIM" King David and Christ. John 10:30-38 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” 33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[a]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” |
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hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States 10/18/2019 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're not worth the bandwidth. Last Edited by hillbilly on 10/18/2019 03:18 AM Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
TheLordsServant User ID: 78092375 United States 10/18/2019 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the Pharisee's words carry more "weight" than His "reply" 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Umm He did not deny who he was, you do. Which is why He was crucified. Read John 1:1 John 1:1 is more important than what Jesus ACTUALLY said? I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
TheLordsServant User ID: 78092375 United States 10/18/2019 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is God Quoting: TheLordsServant John 8:57-58 The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!” Jesus doesn't say "I am who (that) I am". His use of the phrase "I am" is uniqueness as the onlybegotten son of God Here's MORE times Jesus used the phrase "I am". Mark 14:61-62 61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Luke 22 70 Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am. John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? You forgot to address the part where He said "BEFORE ABRAHAM" "Before Abraham" is correct - as Jesus was firstborn of creation. Proof? Father God was NEVER "born", yet Jesus states that He was born. John 18:37 Therefore Pilate said to Him, "So You are a king?" Jesus answered, "You say correctly that I am a king For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice." Then... Colossians 1:15-18 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. John 17 shows us that Jesus was WITH the Father in the beginning. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Genesis 1:26 verse of "Let Us make man in OUR image" shows us that Jesus creator WITH the Father. So therefore, God, the Father, created Jesus. And being both a "created entity", AND having been SENT to earth BY the Father, is "how" Jesus died. This verse in Revelation clearly shows Jesus as both "firstborn of creation" AND "firstborn of the dead". Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; God Himself didn't die for us. God CANNOT die. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
TheLordsServant User ID: 78092375 United States 10/18/2019 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you REFUSE to mark these with "book/chapter/verse" information so that folks can do their due diligence and compare translations. Quoting: TheLordsServant And they said, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 How is it then that He says, 'I have come down from heaven'?" Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." So obviously The Father has not called you to Faith in The Son. WRONG. I have FULL faith in the SON OF God. I pray to the Father just like Jesus TOLD us to do - Matthew 6 & Luke 11. I give thanks to the Father just like Jesus DID - John 11:41-42 I call the Father "God" just like Jesus did - John 20:17 Simple Daily Faith & Living Thank the Father for sending His Son to us Thank Jesus for doing the Father's Will Repent to God the Father for your sins Give thanks for daily blessings...regardless of how simple / "ordinary" they may seem Love others and forgive them as necessary Pray for others and help them if possible Read the Bible and ask Jesus or the Father for guidance concerning it Pray / ask the Father to show HIS WILL for you to do Share your "testimonies" of what God and Jesus have done for you Trust in the Father and the Son fully I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059705 Canada 10/18/2019 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the Pharisee's words carry more "weight" than His "reply" 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Umm He did not deny who he was, you do. Which is why He was crucified. Read John 1:1 John 1:1 is more important than what Jesus ACTUALLY said? Is Christ not one with The Holy Spirit? Are you saying the Gospel is corrupted? You must be Muslim. |
TheLordsServant User ID: 78092375 United States 10/18/2019 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you REFUSE to mark these with "book/chapter/verse" information so that folks can do their due diligence and compare translations. Quoting: TheLordsServant And they said, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 How is it then that He says, 'I have come down from heaven'?" Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you think everybody is such a retard that none of them would even know how to look up a Bible verse if they wanted to do so. It's truly SAD that deceived deceiver antichrist you thinks this is any substantive argument in your futile and impotent war to deny the Divinity of Jesus Christ. Who's deceiving whom? Jesus CLEARLY SAID "I am the SON OF God". Period. Case closed. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059705 Canada 10/18/2019 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you REFUSE to mark these with "book/chapter/verse" information so that folks can do their due diligence and compare translations. Quoting: TheLordsServant And they said, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 How is it then that He says, 'I have come down from heaven'?" Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78088000 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." It's truly SAD that you disrespect people SO MUCH that you think everybody is such a retard that none of them would even know how to look up a Bible verse if they wanted to do so. It's truly SAD that deceived deceiver antichrist you thinks this is any substantive argument in your futile and impotent war to deny the Divinity of Jesus Christ. Who's deceiving whom? Jesus CLEARLY SAID "I am the SON OF God". Period. Case closed. So why does he say "Ye are Gods?" Is He saying other people are Gods? |