Jesus is God

Where...in the 4000+ years of time covered in the Old Testament...did Father God appear as a man?

Possibly to Adam & Eve - BEFORE their sin.

Not to Abraham - not to Moses - not to ANYONE else.

The Father simply WOULDN'T.

What did Father God tell Moses? NO MAN (in the flesh) can look at me and live.

That's WHY He SENT His only-begotten SON.

Scriptural FACT that you people IGNORE - chosing to believe what "men" have concocted as "doctrine".

ANSWER the QUESTIONS...

Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Did Jesus LIE when He told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Did Jesus LIE when He told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT the Father Himself.

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:28

Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. John 20:29

How is it you folks mention John 20:28 but ignore what John states in verse 31..."Son of God".

28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;

31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Yes, The Bible says He is both God and Son of God.

Yes, that is more than we can really understand.

Yes, we have been called to believe in Him in faith.

Yes, we will understand all things when we are with Him.

Scripture says both.

I kind of like Trump, but maybe it's only because I don't know enough about him.
Can't stand msm, so never pay any attention to it.

Your a false prophet.

As we encounter God in history, through his relation with and revelation to man, we see that God acts in three distinct Persons, though he is one unique and singular whole. This is the mystery of the Trinity. As the Son of God, Jesus takes part fully in this divine and hidden life of God. But we also know that God is not given to change or alteration; he is perfect in his nature. God is as he is throughout and apart from time. He is eternally the Father, eternally the Son, and eternally the Spirit.

But we also see something else in God. He is not just one God in three divine Persons. These Persons also exist in relation to one another. In attempting to express this relationship of Father to Son within God we say that the Son is “begotten” of the Father. This is the way that Scripture refers to this divine relationship (see Jn 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18 as examples). When did this take place? Before creation, since, as John notes, the world was made through the Word [the Son]. Such an “action” on the part of God takes place outside of his Creation, outside of time itself. It is not an “event” closed by time, but a way of being within God himself. That is why we say that the Son is “eternally begotten” of the Father.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Psalm 45:7
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


Psalm 81:9
There shall no strange god be in thee; neither shalt thou worship any strange god.


Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:


Hebrews 1:5-10
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Colossians 1:13-16
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:


Hebrews 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;


Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ



Revelation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


Proverbs 16:4
The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.


Isaiah 66:2
For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.


Acts 7:50
Hath not my hand made all these things?


Acts 17:24
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

John 9:37-38 King James Version (KJV)
37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.

38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

A father of the fatherless


Psalms 68:5

Lol what a mess!

Indeed.

You have a remarkably limited ability to understand.

A certain someone has tried to argue with me in the past. Just ignore them. We are not to strive about with words to the ruining of the hearers. The more they talk, the more heresy that is spread on this thread for others to read.


Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.


2 Timothy 2:14
Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

Actually....you folks have a disdain for what Jesus AND the Apostles actually say.

Did Jesus Lie? How about the Apostles?

SON OF God.

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3 divine persons?

ANSWER the QUESTIONS...

Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Did Jesus LIE when He told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Did Jesus LIE when He told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT the Father Himself.

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...the Father SENT me John 12:49-50
...the Father is GREATER than I. John 14:28 & John 10:29
...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39
...I PRAY to the Father. Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50
...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19 & John 8:28
...I give THANKS to the Father. John 11:41
...I don't KNOW when I will return...ONLY the Father KNOWS. Matthew 24:36
...I tell you to ask the Father in MY name. John 14:13
...I go to sit at the Father's right hand. Matthew 26:64 Mark 16:19
...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD. John 20:17
...the Father has given me authority. Matthew 28:18
...only the Father is good.. Luke 18:19

As a Greek who understands better than anyone what Greek civilization offered to humanity (even your english language came mostly from greek roots words and meanings) with the biggest seen, hidden and covered history that is connected with gods before cataclysm (we have 3 if you dont know it..), I highly disagree with the title of this thread as presented because makes the human mind believe that beyond Jesus there is no other savior. On the contrary I really do believe that saviors have anything to do with civilization and knowledge before moon's arrival when knowledge and wisdom walked equally on this planet. Sorry I have better saviors to call on. In fact everyone should but its a matter of knowledge and perspective I guess I dont blame anyone.

There is no place in the world for blame.
Blame brings only vengeance, which, of course,
"is mine, sayeth the Lord." -overheard in a jail cell

[link to www.thesynagogueofsatan.com (secure)] (less dan fiddy)

740: In 740 A.D. in a land locked between the Black Sea
and the Caspian Sea, known as [Causaria], a land which
today is predominantly occupied by Georgia, but also
reaches into Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, and
Romania, the modern Jewish race is born. A modern
Jewish race that incidentally is not Jewish [or semitic].

How can this be, you ask? Well at that time, the
[Causarian] people felt a vulnerable people as they had
Muslims one side of them and Christians the other side
of them, and thus constantly feared attack from either side.
Furthermore, the [Causarian] people were of neither faith
and instead practiced idol worship, which made them ripe
for invasion by a people who wished to convert them to an
established faith.

The [Causarian] King, King Bulan, decided in order to
protect themselves against attack, the [Causarian] people
must convert to one of these faiths, but which one? If they
converted to the Muslim faith they would risk attack by
the Christians and if they converted to the Christian faith
they would risk attack by the Muslims.

He had an idea. There was another race that he was aware
were able to deal with both the Muslims and the
Christians either side of him, predominantly in matters of
trade. A race which also dealt with [Causarians] in the
same manner. That race was the Jevvs. King Bulan
decided if he instructed his people to convert to Judaism
he could keep both the Muslims
and the Christians happy, as they were both already willing
to trade with the Jevvs, so this is what he did.

King Bulan was right. He would live to see his country
unconquered, his people convert to Judaism
enthusiastically and adopt the principles of the most holy
Jewish book, the Talmud. There are many things the
king would not live to see, however.

He would not live to see his Asiatic race of converts to
Judaism, one day represent 90% of all the Jevvs on the
planet, and call themselves Ashkenazi Jevvs, when in
fact they were not Jevvs, but simply an Asiatic race of
people who converted to the Jewish religion, whilst still
continuing to speak the [Causarian] language of Yiddish,
totally different to the language of Hebrew.

He would not live to see his people turn to the
descendants of a man, far more powerful than him, who
would be born just over 1,000 years later in Germany, a
man named Bauer, who would spawn the Rothschild
dynasty.

He would not live to see this dynasty usurp the wealth of
the world through deception and intrigue, which they
would finance through the vast riches they accumulate as
they usurp the wealth of the world by gaining control
of the world's money supply.

He would not live to see his people demand a homeland
for themselves in Palestine as their birthright, and
ensure every Prime Minister there from its inception in
1948 is an Ashkenazi Jevv, even though the true
homeland of the Ashkenazi Jevvs, [Causaria], is his
kingdom, some 800 miles away.

And he would not live to see his people fulfill bible
prophecy, as the, "synagogue of Satan."

You want a confession, I have one for y'all.
My mother's ancestors had an Ashkenazi name.
They, apparently, chose to become Christians,
Methodists to be specific. They eventually
immigrated to America to escape the tyranny
of a religious school for their children.

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In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES anything in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.

Here's a 191 page free PDF of Biblical Archaeological finds.

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God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua.

The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind.

NOTHING you say will change these facts.

not really...

more like learning and understanding

Beyond Jesus there IS NO other saviour

and your mind wont get you into heaven
so you can keep your man made knowledge those that believe in Christ see with eyes of the infinite

The Father is the actual Saviour.

IF the Father HAD NOT SENT His only-begotten SON...gentiles WOULD NOT have the opportunity to be saved.

Shaking the dust from my sandals. No more pearls for you.

They will stand as a witness against you.

Your knee shall bow, soon enough.

Luke 10:18 New International Version (NIV)
18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Alpha and Omega

If God died you would be dead too, moronic mortals.

JESUS CHRIST

IS

THE TRUTH

THAT IS PERFECT AND ABSOLUTE

AND DOESN'T LIE

EVER

BUT SATAN DOES

EVERYDAY

AND

IF

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING

DON'T CALL IT A LIE

SIMPLY ASK GOD TO EXPLAIN IT

DON'T GO AROUND REPEATING THE MESSAGE OF SATAN

Here is an example of the messenger of Satan

Obammmaaaaa

It is now known by everyone

That he lied about everything

First place he went to as President

The seat of Satan in Europe

In contrast

Trump dedicated America to the Father in Heaven

This is the difference between a country doomed to death by the obbbbaaanmmmaaa and life presented by Trump