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Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?

 
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"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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No usch thing happened DGN. You remain unwilling to look. God is not that bearded shit in the sky.. a PIECE of the FATHER is INSIDE YOU and you didn't anull a dammed thing did you beloved... This stupid "gawd" must be left behind so the REAL FATHEr can function thru his Father Knowing SONS... YOU DO OT KNOW THE FATHER. INSIDE OF YOU.. it shows. START there in meditation to ask for the truth.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Nothing changed in regards to the new testament and the gentiles


The gentiles were ALWAYS allowed to join Israel in the covenant with God as far back at least as Moses

Foreigners could ally with Israel and come into covenant. There was never a restriction

In fact many that came out of Egypt in the first exodus were not even hebrew, it was a mixed diverse multitude.

Nothing has changed. Any human can submit himself to his Creator according to the specifications that the Creator laid out
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
God didn't. Many Gentiles are of the 12 tribes of Israel and don't know it. Many Christians are from the lost 10 tribes and some are even of the house of Judah and don't know it.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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No usch thing happened DGN. You remain unwilling to look. God is not that bearded shit in the sky.. a PIECE of the FATHER is INSIDE YOU and you didn't anull a dammed thing did you beloved... This stupid "gawd" must be left behind so the REAL FATHEr can function thru his Father Knowing SONS... YOU DO OT KNOW THE FATHER. INSIDE OF YOU.. it shows. START there in meditation to ask for the truth.
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Wow, all is one is all

How confused are you?
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
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Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Your Bible was written by men, rewritten by men, translated into a multitude of languages by men, edited by men, and forced on other men by men. It is just a book, a very old book that started off as a collection of scribblings based on even older oral tradition, tales told around campfires. Put the book down.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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Revelation is some nobody in a cave.

The new testament is NOT derived from the old.

They are not congruent
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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Revelation is some nobody in a cave.

The new testament is NOT derived from the old.

They are not congruent
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they absolutely are congruent- they both are incomplete without the other
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
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Sounds like a plump, cornflake-eating SDA dream come true !
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The Jehovah Witness organization is not the chosen ones of God
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Who revised the original covenant? It wasn't God who wrote the "original covenant" and it wasn't God who revised it. Guess who did all of this writing? Humans who invented God.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Nothing changed in regards to the new testament and the gentiles


The gentiles were ALWAYS allowed to join Israel in the covenant with God as far back at least as Moses

Foreigners could ally with Israel and come into covenant. There was never a restriction

In fact many that came out of Egypt in the first exodus were not even hebrew, it was a mixed diverse multitude.

Nothing has changed. Any human can submit himself to his Creator according to the specifications that the Creator laid out
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Gentiles can ONLY serve as slavesr as profit centere or traitors to benefit tribal goals.
They can be tolerated, like the mythic they have to betray their own kind and are never really included.
You can only be a tool.
You dont get anything for it, since there is no afterlife in he brew doctrine.
There is only the earthly for them, thats why its their priority.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Nothing changed in regards to the new testament and the gentiles


The gentiles were ALWAYS allowed to join Israel in the covenant with God as far back at least as Moses

Foreigners could ally with Israel and come into covenant. There was never a restriction

In fact many that came out of Egypt in the first exodus were not even hebrew, it was a mixed diverse multitude.

Nothing has changed. Any human can submit himself to his Creator according to the specifications that the Creator laid out
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Gentiles can ONLY serve as slavesr as profit centere or traitors to benefit tribal goals.
They can be tolerated, like the mythic Ruth they have to betray their own kind and are never really included and never respected.
There is no place in the OT where there is any interest in accumulation of gentiles other than slaves.
This is further clarified by levitical law make clear in Leviticus 25, 44-46.

You can only be a tool for their theocracy
It can never be made benign and its intent is not holy or sacred.
You dont get anything for it, since there is no afterlife in he brew doctrine.
There is only the earthly for them, thats why its their priority.
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Who revised the original covenant? It wasn't God who wrote the "original covenant" and it wasn't God who revised it. Guess who did all of this writing? Humans who invented God.
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There was NEVER any covenant.

Its bullshit.

There is no valid covenant that allows evil.
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The Jehovah Witness organization is not the chosen ones of God
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Of course not.
Its just judeochristianity where the Old supercedes the new.
Its just another ruling elite controlling their flock using old testament fables as their control mechanism
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Where is it written that Lord gonna have assistant kings? Please direct me to scripture. He has princes and he has the Levites that went astray for a short time to keep His house, and the Zadok, the priest of the levites that keep His altar and serve Him.

his elect and zadok
eze.40:46 44:10 44:13-16 48:11

Michael a prince david a prince and im sure many more
dan. 10:13 12:1

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"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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The original plan was ALWAYS having people of FAITH that have chosen the CHOSEN ONE...the Messiah to come... and the Messiah who came... both are JESUS, the Messiah.

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and rev.22:24 are the nations...the ethnos.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Get your god out of the sky and take off his beard. THE FATHER IS INSIDE OF HUMANS.. not in the sky.

all that is garbage in your bible. the 144,000 were from other planets who came to restart the human race after the big huge axis shift.

If you ones do not revise your fairy tales they will burn in you your buts big time.

NO body named God made any covenant with Israel at all. and no god created any 144,000 to become assistant kings in heaven.. or open anything to the gentiles. This is DUMB

There is a celestial government that overseas and I have covered that one ad nauseam.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
read ez.48:21 to the end...Lord has inheritance for Israel. He never forsaken them. He just gets mad at them a lot cause they keep falling away. the thing is, most people don't know who they are today, they call themselves gentiles. Just like Moses said would happen they fell away and GOD scattered them. But Lord putting the 2 sticks together soon. Judah and Israel will become one. eze.37:15-17
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The Israel of God is THE CHURCH, it is NOT the modern ethnostate called "Israel."

The modern ethnostate called "Israel" is completely and totally EVIL, and of satan.
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israel is a people...the 12 sons of Jacob...everyone knows that
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
learn that "parable of the fig tree"

Jeremiah 24 naughty and nice figs

that land called israel with the star of rothschilds on it. seeing eye and the pyramid that's also on the dollar bill.
check out who has the duel citizenships of our congress while reading rev.2:9 and 3:9

eyes open...im waiting for their daddy to come SOON!
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Nothing changed in regards to the new testament and the gentiles


The gentiles were ALWAYS allowed to join Israel in the covenant with God as far back at least as Moses

Foreigners could ally with Israel and come into covenant. There was never a restriction

In fact many that came out of Egypt in the first exodus were not even hebrew, it was a mixed diverse multitude.

Nothing has changed. Any human can submit himself to his Creator according to the specifications that the Creator laid out
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Gentiles can ONLY serve as slavesr as profit centere or traitors to benefit tribal goals.
They can be tolerated, like the mythic they have to betray their own kind and are never really included.
You can only be a tool.
You dont get anything for it, since there is no afterlife in he brew doctrine.
There is only the earthly for them, thats why its their priority.
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There are many examples in the old testament of people that were not hebrews joining the hebrews, getting circumcised, worshipping the true God, fighting with Israel as a citizen of Israel.

If you have some OT passages proving otherwise then please share
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
Who revised the original covenant? It wasn't God who wrote the "original covenant" and it wasn't God who revised it. Guess who did all of this writing? Humans who invented God.
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The original covenant or old covenant didnt really change much. The single solitary reference to a new covenant in the OT in Jeremiah simply says that God will write the law in the hearts of the people. That's it. That is the passage every NT new covenant passage references. Unfortunately many modern Christian's would have you believe the new covenant did away with the law but they have no explanation for why the passage in Jeremiah, the single prophetic new covenant passage says nothing about doing away with the law...just like Jesus said he want going to do away with the law
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Who revised the original covenant? It wasn't God who wrote the "original covenant" and it wasn't God who revised it. Guess who did all of this writing? Humans who invented God.
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The original covenant or old covenant didnt really change much. The single solitary reference to a new covenant in the OT in Jeremiah simply says that God will write the law in the hearts of the people. That's it. That is the passage every NT new covenant passage references. Unfortunately many modern Christian's would have you believe the new covenant did away with the law but they have no explanation for why the passage in Jeremiah, the single prophetic new covenant passage says nothing about doing away with the law...just like Jesus said he want going to do away with the law
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They did away with the law because it is impossible to keep regardless of what the bible says, especially for modern society. That is why the Rabbis created the Talmud to keep people under an ever shifting law that is reformed for modern problems.

The Christians also forget that the law was only for the Children of Israel and refuse to acknowledge that their ancestors gave up there "pagan" faith for the pagan faith of the j-ws.





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