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Propaganda when I was in school

 
TlvmmCpoft

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Propaganda when I was in school
Now, I realize they probably all do this in 2019, but back when I went through it, it was a 90% foreign funded program through Yale in the 80s and 90s.

We'd watch movies in which radicals were always the heroes and the industry/governments were always the bad guys who were mean and directly attacking the little children of the radicals. Guerrilla warfare tactics would have to be used to win.

And there would be long heavily radicalized lectures given by women's liberation blah and united front bleh, and black panther's r'us, etc. Tactics would be discussed. So would angry feelings.

Anyone that the process sorted out as a useful future radical would get scurried away by the organizers.

And if that wasn't bad enough, I was being dragged along by one of the organizers. We were "family." So, then I'd end up a couple of blocks away at a faculty lecture series in which they invited the most knowledgeable experts of every field in to discuss how their field could be used in guerrilla warfare. These were deep discussion panels, followed by smaller group discussions, and attended by the people who teach future leaders. And hidden away in a room on the right at the end of the main hall were a group of mid-twenties seedy looking grad students listening in - with equipment - to every group discussion going on in all of the rooms on that hall, probably waiting for someone to say something of interest.

And if that wasn't bad enough, I also spent a good eight or so semesters of my life being dragged to social justice discussion groups, all with their own assigned classrooms and hours right on campus, with the same people "popping in and then happening to lead the discussion" who had been organizing the radical movie nights.

And if that wasn't bad enough. Some of these same organizers were also hanging out for a much more special "movie night" over in the social sciences building. These were considered research and students were participating for extra credit and other goodies. They were being drugged (seemingly with research consent) and having their reactions to violent war movies analyzed (first there was a baseline done with a non-violent movie, same drugs). Did it stop at analyzing? I doubt it stopped anything short of full brainwashing. But that's just my two cents.

Keep in mind, though, this was Yale. Some of our current world leaders were there back when they were young impressionable minds. Some of our future ones are still there today. And many of our spooks.
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TlvmmCpoft  (OP)

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So, what's the worst you went through? Were there overlapping courses and programs?

I think they started out these programs in the universities/recruiting grounds and eventually disseminated them into the grade schools to get further reach. That's just going based on their general predictable patterns and what we can all see even with a blindfold on.
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I might come back and nudge this later when there aren't a million pins on the board.
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Re: Propaganda when I was in school
How long has this been going on in spain?
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How long has this been going on in spain?
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That particular university is not in Spain. It's in the United States. Do you even know the country of your IP?
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Nudge
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Sigh.

No one cares where their fucked up school programs were formed, or how, or by who. They just want to complain about their feelings when it hits their schools.

Can't say I didn't try.
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So do they do this at all the Ivy League universities? Or is it mainly or only Yale?
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So do they do this at all the Ivy League universities? Or is it mainly or only Yale?
 Quoting: Nicolas Catinat


1dunno1

You'd have to go hunting through campus leaflets and class catalogs from decades ago to get that answer.

...unless someone around here knows.

The second I broke away from Yale I went screaming for thousands of miles and essentially jumped through elaborate fire-rimmed hoops to try to avoid being in the same sector/field as my vast wealth of ivy league induced knowledge.
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So do they do this at all the Ivy League universities? Or is it mainly or only Yale?
 Quoting: Nicolas Catinat


1dunno1

You'd have to go hunting through campus leaflets and class catalogs from decades ago to get that answer.

...unless someone around here knows.

The second I broke away from Yale I went screaming for thousands of miles and essentially jumped through elaborate fire-rimmed hoops to try to avoid being in the same sector/field as my vast wealth of ivy league induced knowledge.
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So what does it take to get into an ivy league school? Do the rulers of world really attend those schools? Or is that just a façade?
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So do they do this at all the Ivy League universities? Or is it mainly or only Yale?
 Quoting: Nicolas Catinat


1dunno1

You'd have to go hunting through campus leaflets and class catalogs from decades ago to get that answer.

...unless someone around here knows.

The second I broke away from Yale I went screaming for thousands of miles and essentially jumped through elaborate fire-rimmed hoops to try to avoid being in the same sector/field as my vast wealth of ivy league induced knowledge.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


So what does it take to get into an ivy league school? Do the rulers of world really attend those schools? Or is that just a façade?
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Personally, I was there via "family" and foundation level (and larger) funding.
Many get in via family. Many get in via brains. I've seen some show up riding large DoD research grants.

I did meet a few future rulers there. One was indeed a student. One was essentially a slave. I also met several current (at the time) rulers there, during various parts of their professional careers. One was a visiting lecturer for a semester or two. Several were just there for the photo shoot and handshakes on campus or for the requisite hanging out at Skull and Bones for the evening. I'm sure at least some of them legitimately attended in the past. My "family" went to school with quite a few of them back in the 60s.

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Now, I realize they probably all do this in 2019, but back when I went through it, it was a 90% foreign funded program through Yale in the 80s and 90s.

We'd watch movies in which radicals were always the heroes and the industry/governments were always the bad guys who were mean and directly attacking the little children of the radicals. Guerrilla warfare tactics would have to be used to win.

And there would be long heavily radicalized lectures given by women's liberation blah and united front bleh, and black panther's r'us, etc. Tactics would be discussed. So would angry feelings.

Anyone that the process sorted out as a useful future radical would get scurried away by the organizers.

And if that wasn't bad enough, I was being dragged along by one of the organizers. We were "family." So, then I'd end up a couple of blocks away at a faculty lecture series in which they invited the most knowledgeable experts of every field in to discuss how their field could be used in guerrilla warfare. These were deep discussion panels, followed by smaller group discussions, and attended by the people who teach future leaders. And hidden away in a room on the right at the end of the main hall were a group of mid-twenties seedy looking grad students listening in - with equipment - to every group discussion going on in all of the rooms on that hall, probably waiting for someone to say something of interest.

And if that wasn't bad enough, I also spent a good eight or so semesters of my life being dragged to social justice discussion groups, all with their own assigned classrooms and hours right on campus, with the same people "popping in and then happening to lead the discussion" who had been organizing the radical movie nights.

And if that wasn't bad enough. Some of these same organizers were also hanging out for a much more special "movie night" over in the social sciences building. These were considered research and students were participating for extra credit and other goodies. They were being drugged (seemingly with research consent) and having their reactions to violent war movies analyzed (first there was a baseline done with a non-violent movie, same drugs). Did it stop at analyzing? I doubt it stopped anything short of full brainwashing. But that's just my two cents.

Keep in mind, though, this was Yale. Some of our current world leaders were there back when they were young impressionable minds. Some of our future ones are still there today. And many of our spooks.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I didn't go to Yale but I was in a PHD program at a fairly prestigious school. I am not going to reveal which.. but my experience was very similar to yours. I thought I was a democrat until I realized what they were really up to by being in the upper echalon of academics.

I made a tough decision and even though I had worked hard to get there. I dropped out a couple of quarters into it.. The program head and professors were shocked I guess no one had just quit on them. Everyone just bowed down to it.

I literally had teacher's aids of professors who were going to be medical doctors stating they were failing students who showed any conservative values because "they could become someone prominent in the future" simply because they didn't share their views. That's when it became clear to me people were taking this to another level that was not just.
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my parents sent me to christian schools in the 80's.. i resented them at the time. i put my self through college in hard sciences after i left them at age 17. at college i was there to learn the science ignored all political science type courses..

discovered some good writers at age 18-22 who were formative.

at age 13 was reading time life UFO mysteries archaelogy books. and checking them out on my BMX bike back then.

i feel like i dodged a huge programming bullet by default. but not entirely. i learned early on to question everything somehow. and it's served me well

peace
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Now, I realize they probably all do this in 2019, but back when I went through it, it was a 90% foreign funded program through Yale in the 80s and 90s.

We'd watch movies in which radicals were always the heroes and the industry/governments were always the bad guys who were mean and directly attacking the little children of the radicals. Guerrilla warfare tactics would have to be used to win.

And there would be long heavily radicalized lectures given by women's liberation blah and united front bleh, and black panther's r'us, etc. Tactics would be discussed. So would angry feelings.

Anyone that the process sorted out as a useful future radical would get scurried away by the organizers.

And if that wasn't bad enough, I was being dragged along by one of the organizers. We were "family." So, then I'd end up a couple of blocks away at a faculty lecture series in which they invited the most knowledgeable experts of every field in to discuss how their field could be used in guerrilla warfare. These were deep discussion panels, followed by smaller group discussions, and attended by the people who teach future leaders. And hidden away in a room on the right at the end of the main hall were a group of mid-twenties seedy looking grad students listening in - with equipment - to every group discussion going on in all of the rooms on that hall, probably waiting for someone to say something of interest.

And if that wasn't bad enough, I also spent a good eight or so semesters of my life being dragged to social justice discussion groups, all with their own assigned classrooms and hours right on campus, with the same people "popping in and then happening to lead the discussion" who had been organizing the radical movie nights.

And if that wasn't bad enough. Some of these same organizers were also hanging out for a much more special "movie night" over in the social sciences building. These were considered research and students were participating for extra credit and other goodies. They were being drugged (seemingly with research consent) and having their reactions to violent war movies analyzed (first there was a baseline done with a non-violent movie, same drugs). Did it stop at analyzing? I doubt it stopped anything short of full brainwashing. But that's just my two cents.

Keep in mind, though, this was Yale. Some of our current world leaders were there back when they were young impressionable minds. Some of our future ones are still there today. And many of our spooks.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I didn't go to Yale but I was in a PHD program at a fairly prestigious school. I am not going to reveal which.. but my experience was very similar to yours. I thought I was a democrat until I realized what they were really up to by being in the upper echalon of academics.

I made a tough decision and even though I had worked hard to get there. I dropped out a couple of quarters into it.. The program head and professors were shocked I guess no one had just quit on them. Everyone just bowed down to it.

I literally had teacher's aids of professors who were going to be medical doctors stating they were failing students who showed any conservative values because "they could become someone prominent in the future" simply because they didn't share their views. That's when it became clear to me people were taking this to another level that was not just.
 Quoting: Geraldgar


I feel ya.

I had the full on smile-and-nod-feed-the-professors-their-own-biases going on when I was pursuing my degrees. I was top of the class but god do I feel like a fraud and like those years were a waste.
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Re: Propaganda when I was in school
my parents sent me to christian schools in the 80's.. i resented them at the time. i put my self through college in hard sciences after i left them at age 17. at college i was there to learn the science ignored all political science type courses..

discovered some good writers at age 18-22 who were formative.

at age 13 was reading time life UFO mysteries archaelogy books. and checking them out on my BMX bike back then.

i feel like i dodged a huge programming bullet by default. but not entirely. i learned early on to question everything somehow. and it's served me well

peace
 Quoting: Grove Street


You definitely dodged a bullet.

I had little chance hanging out between the political sciences, social sciences, law school, and theater. Thanks to the creeping nature of psychology into medicine, even time spent over in the medical school wasn't a reprieve.
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Yes. I am actually sitting behind the curtain - watching the actors and the audience... and I am facepalming.

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peace

keep the faith


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peace

keep the faith


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I still have the long audio version of this one. It starts with a speech that reminded me so much of one I heard at Yale once that it made me pause for a solid minute..

The speech was (roughly):

"Each of you here tonight has grown, in this year alone, by an average of 39%." *applause* A gain *indecipherable" both for ourselves, and for you - the human power elite." *laughter and applause*




I'm not sure which school it was for. The speech was given in a building just about directly behind the Coop bookstore. You could reach it the roundabout way by going behind Toad's Place and following the footpaths, which I realize is just about useless information unless you've been there.

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Were there individuals taking pictures of the meetings and its members?
Keeping check on yous guys?

they do it for nostalgic reasons
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You didn't go to Yale OP

Stop bullshiting
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Were there individuals taking pictures of the meetings and its members?
Keeping check on yous guys?

they do it for nostalgic reasons
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Hm. Can't say I remember. I know I've posed for shots a few times in those circles, but no idea about those times.
I did have to sign the attendance sheets regularly.

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You didn't go to Yale OP

Stop bullshiting
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Oh look, it's someone from the "it didn't happen to me so it can't happen" club.

While that may be likely when it comes to alien abductions, universities are on this planet and full of people.
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