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BREAKING!!! OPERATION "SPRING of PEACE" HAS STARTED!!!

 
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'Spring' ... Very Obama era ..what could possibly go wrong?
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IT'S ABOUT THE GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET INTI THE GOLD STANDARD...

LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
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I always thought Ergodan was the Anti-Christ. If Trump allows him to destroy the Kurds I'm done with Trump, too. Power is given to the A-C by the US' withdrawal ?
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You need help.
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I do need help to outfit my lg.schooner and sail away from the US ASAP.
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GTFO.
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IT'S ABOUT THE GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET INTI THE GOLD STANDARD...

LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
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5a
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@cmoc_sdf

25 jets fly all over the border cities and bombardment.

Turkish warplanes stroke in depth 50km in Ain Issa inside Syrian territory.
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Lets see how Putin reacts.
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IT'S ABOUT THE GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET INTI THE GOLD STANDARD...

LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
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5a
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It will never ever ever happen.
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US apparently betraying the Kurds. Again.
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This invasion is a beginning of the end of Turkey's NATO membership. I guess it was even proper intention of POTUS to let Turks show the world how aggressive dogs they are( and always were). To later expel this terrorist supporting country and migrant crisis benefactor - Turkey.

ps. Try to find people in Europe who will go fight for Turkey cuz of NATO. Every EU country will refuse to help Turkish anytime over anything. Very same idea would spark laughable atmosfere here. Fuck Turks.
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Thread: HOLY SHIT!!! TRUMP says GULF WAR WAS fabricated!!!
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THE U.S. IS NOW BETRAYING THE KURDS FOR THE EIGHTH TIME

THE WHITE HOUSE announced Sunday night that the United States is giving Turkey a green light to invade northern Syria, with the U.S. troops there now apparently pulling back to another area of the country. This is the scenario that Syrian Kurds have long feared. It will almost inevitably lead to a Turkish attack on Kurdish militias in Syria — fighters who loyally helped the U.S. destroy the Islamic State, but whom Turkey bogusly claims to be terrorists.

On Monday morning, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman asked why Donald Trump made this decision:

What Krugman left out, however, is the most likely explanation: (d) Trump is president of the United States. Nothing in this world is certain except death, taxes, and America betraying the Kurds.

The U.S. has now betrayed the Kurds a minimum of eight times over the past 100 years. The reasons for this are straightforward.

The Kurds are an ethnic group of about 40 million people centered at the intersection of Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Many naturally want their own state. The four countries in which they live naturally do not want that to happen.

On the one hand, the Kurds are a perfect tool for U.S. foreign policy. We can arm the Kurds in whichever of these countries is currently our enemy, whether to make trouble for that country’s government or to accomplish various other objectives. On the other hand, we don’t want the Kurds we’re utilizing to ever get too powerful. If that happened, the other Kurds — i.e., the ones living just across the border in whichever of these countries are currently our allies — might get ideas about freedom and independence.

Here’s how that dynamic has played out, over and over and over again since World War I.

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@cmoc_sdf

25 jets fly all over the border cities and bombardment.

Turkish warplanes stroke in depth 50km in Ain Issa inside Syrian territory.
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Lets see how Putin reacts.
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As long as Turkey doesn't directly threaten Russian interests I doubt Putin cares.
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I always thought Ergodan was the Anti-Christ. If Trump allows him to destroy the Kurds I'm done with Trump, too. Power is given to the A-C by the US' withdrawal ?
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You need help.
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I do need help to outfit my lg.schooner and sail away from the US ASAP.
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great, do that favor
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US apparently betraying the Kurds. Again.
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UR NOT SMART...

KURDS, LIVE IN KURDISTAN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SYRIAN KURDS ARE ISIS, NOT LIVING IN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SO HOW ARE "WE" NOT DEFENDING THE KURDS? WE DO DEFEND KURDS, IN IRAQ!

KURDS IN SYRIA ARE ISIS, KILL YHEM ALL WHERE THEY SLEEP AND EAT... THEN GO GET OBAMA
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No, Kurds don't "live in Kurdistan, Iraq". Kurdish territory comprises parts of Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Turkey. Always has.
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THE U.S. IS NOW BETRAYING THE KURDS FOR THE EIGHTH TIME

THE WHITE HOUSE announced Sunday night that the United States is giving Turkey a green light to invade northern Syria, with the U.S. troops there now apparently pulling back to another area of the country. This is the scenario that Syrian Kurds have long feared. It will almost inevitably lead to a Turkish attack on Kurdish militias in Syria — fighters who loyally helped the U.S. destroy the Islamic State, but whom Turkey bogusly claims to be terrorists.

On Monday morning, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman asked why Donald Trump made this decision:

What Krugman left out, however, is the most likely explanation: (d) Trump is president of the United States. Nothing in this world is certain except death, taxes, and America betraying the Kurds.

The U.S. has now betrayed the Kurds a minimum of eight times over the past 100 years. The reasons for this are straightforward.

The Kurds are an ethnic group of about 40 million people centered at the intersection of Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Many naturally want their own state. The four countries in which they live naturally do not want that to happen.

On the one hand, the Kurds are a perfect tool for U.S. foreign policy. We can arm the Kurds in whichever of these countries is currently our enemy, whether to make trouble for that country’s government or to accomplish various other objectives. On the other hand, we don’t want the Kurds we’re utilizing to ever get too powerful. If that happened, the other Kurds — i.e., the ones living just across the border in whichever of these countries are currently our allies — might get ideas about freedom and independence.

Here’s how that dynamic has played out, over and over and over again since World War I.

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no high leadership "allows" to be "betrayed" "8 times"
all a matter of plans and interests, not a matter of "reliance/trust"
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Official US statement.
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@cmoc_sdf

25 jets fly all over the border cities and bombardment.

Turkish warplanes stroke in depth 50km in Ain Issa inside Syrian territory.
 Quoting: Urður


Lets see how Putin reacts.
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As long as Turkey doesn't directly threaten Russian interests I doubt Putin cares.
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Sooner or later Turks will start engaging Russian troops which are present in the area. Who will then go to war with Russia over Turkey who is an aggressor in the first place?
This invasion is a full fledged shit hitting the fan in middle east.
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US apparently betraying the Kurds. Again.
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UR NOT SMART...

KURDS, LIVE IN KURDISTAN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SYRIAN KURDS ARE ISIS, NOT LIVING IN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SO HOW ARE "WE" NOT DEFENDING THE KURDS? WE DO DEFEND KURDS, IN IRAQ!

KURDS IN SYRIA ARE ISIS, KILL YHEM ALL WHERE THEY SLEEP AND EAT... THEN GO GET OBAMA
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No, Kurds don't "live in Kurdistan, Iraq". Kurdish territory comprises parts of Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Turkey. Always has.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78067432

Kurdish population:

Turkey est. 14.3–20 million
Iran est. 8.2–12 million
Iraq est. 5.6–8.5 million
Syria est. 2–3.6 million
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I think trump got us out of there to ensure we didnt end up in the middle.i would assume turkey was going to invade no matter what.
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THE MILITARY COMPLEX AND US INTELLIGENCE ARE THE BIGGEST TERRORIST AND YOU ALL ARE ACOMPLICES
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US apparently betraying the Kurds. Again.
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UR NOT SMART...

KURDS, LIVE IN KURDISTAN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SYRIAN KURDS ARE ISIS, NOT LIVING IN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SO HOW ARE "WE" NOT DEFENDING THE KURDS? WE DO DEFEND KURDS, IN IRAQ!

KURDS IN SYRIA ARE ISIS, KILL YHEM ALL WHERE THEY SLEEP AND EAT... THEN GO GET OBAMA
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No, Kurds don't "live in Kurdistan, Iraq". Kurdish territory comprises parts of Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Turkey. Always has.
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Here's the real Kurdistan. Not "Kurdistan, Iraq".

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@cmoc_sdf

25 jets fly all over the border cities and bombardment.

Turkish warplanes stroke in depth 50km in Ain Issa inside Syrian territory.
 Quoting: Urður


Lets see how Putin reacts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25026387


As long as Turkey doesn't directly threaten Russian interests I doubt Putin cares.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Sooner or later Turks will start engaging Russian troops which are present in the area. Who will then go to war with Russia over Turkey who is an aggressor in the first place?
This invasion is a full fledged shit hitting the fan in middle east.
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I'm not convinced. Yet.
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This invasion is a beginning of the end of Turkey's NATO membership. I guess it was even proper intention of POTUS to let Turks show the world how aggressive dogs they are( and always were). To later expel this terrorist supporting country and migrant crisis benefactor - Turkey.

ps. Try to find people in Europe who will go fight for Turkey cuz of NATO. Every EU country will refuse to help Turkish anytime over anything. Very same idea would spark laughable atmosfere here. Fuck Turks.
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did the media ever cover the concentration camps where thousands were starved from Syria etc?. People fleeing the war
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Trumps' son in law Kushners Peace Treaty is finally happening?
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RUSSIA 'KEEPING A CLOSE EYE' ON WHETHER U.S. TROOPS LEAVING SYRIA, IRAN WARNS TURKEY AGAINST ATTACK


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Russia has 3 messages for Turkey over operation in Syria

Hours after Donald Trump threatened to "obliterate" Turkey's economy should Ankara do anything that he considers "off limits," Moscow struck a different tone. On Oct. 7, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, following the drawdown of US troops and the launch of the Turkish operation, reiterated Russia’s recognition of “Turkey’s right to ensure its security,” but conditioned it with several important don’ts.

“We haven’t been informed on the American pullout," Peskov said. "But you know, there were different statements about withdrawals from other parts of the world that have never materialized. We are observing the situation carefully.” He also denied that Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan had discussed Ankara’s plans to carry out a military operation in northeastern Syria. Yet he did say that the “Russian and Turkish militaries and intelligence agencies maintain close contact.”


In this tug of war for Turkey, Russia has positioned itself as a more pragmatic, predictable and “delivering” partner than the United States. Such was the case with the sale of the S-400 to Turkey.

In dealing with a difficult actor like Turkey, Russia has learned three things. First, you need to demonstrate empathy on issues that are sensitive and important to Turkish security. Second, clearly outline your own red lines and a corridor of opportunities for future cooperation on these issues. Third, take advantage of mistakes made by the other party whose position is important to Ankara — the United States — and use the contrast to your advantage. The statement by Kremlin’s spokesman reveals the ABCs of Russia's approach to Turkey.

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THE U.S. IS NOW BETRAYING THE KURDS FOR THE EIGHTH TIME

THE WHITE HOUSE announced Sunday night that the United States is giving Turkey a green light to invade northern Syria, with the U.S. troops there now apparently pulling back to another area of the country. This is the scenario that Syrian Kurds have long feared. It will almost inevitably lead to a Turkish attack on Kurdish militias in Syria — fighters who loyally helped the U.S. destroy the Islamic State, but whom Turkey bogusly claims to be terrorists.

On Monday morning, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman asked why Donald Trump made this decision:

What Krugman left out, however, is the most likely explanation: (d) Trump is president of the United States. Nothing in this world is certain except death, taxes, and America betraying the Kurds.

The U.S. has now betrayed the Kurds a minimum of eight times over the past 100 years. The reasons for this are straightforward.

The Kurds are an ethnic group of about 40 million people centered at the intersection of Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Many naturally want their own state. The four countries in which they live naturally do not want that to happen.

On the one hand, the Kurds are a perfect tool for U.S. foreign policy. We can arm the Kurds in whichever of these countries is currently our enemy, whether to make trouble for that country’s government or to accomplish various other objectives. On the other hand, we don’t want the Kurds we’re utilizing to ever get too powerful. If that happened, the other Kurds — i.e., the ones living just across the border in whichever of these countries are currently our allies — might get ideas about freedom and independence.

Here’s how that dynamic has played out, over and over and over again since World War I.

[link to theintercept.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78039850


no high leadership "allows" to be "betrayed" "8 times"
all a matter of plans and interests, not a matter of "reliance/trust"
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yeah, tough to believe they've let themselves be fooled 8 times
sth more must be to it

Years ago Assad said to the #Kurds, “no one will protect you except the Syrian army”. His warning fell on traitorous ears.

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Watch for problems in the UK.

And? That's a local skirmish between unimportant players. Who cares?
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US apparently betraying the Kurds. Again.
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UR NOT SMART...

KURDS, LIVE IN KURDISTAN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SYRIAN KURDS ARE ISIS, NOT LIVING IN IRAQ... RIGHT?

SO HOW ARE "WE" NOT DEFENDING THE KURDS? WE DO DEFEND KURDS, IN IRAQ!

KURDS IN SYRIA ARE ISIS, KILL YHEM ALL WHERE THEY SLEEP AND EAT... THEN GO GET OBAMA
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No, Kurds don't "live in Kurdistan, Iraq". Kurdish territory comprises parts of Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Turkey. Always has.
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since when and what was before?
they lost that area, just the facts and should live with that instead of fighting mastodonts they cant
Trump is covered in reason not spending taxpayers' money anylonger in such a pirro battle if now the political figure for the region envolving Putin, Erdogan and Assad seeming more stable since that gas pipeline is going to be built after Merkel agred to Nordstream 2 arriving at Germany hence Gasprom avoiding Ukraine, no more reason to hold a costly stake in the region now that Ukraine is posed to an economic knockout by loosing transit feees - and IF Putin cuts the supply to Kyev thereafter, Trump can redirect to Kiev the lost gas exports to Berlim, recovering a parcel of the lost gas exports

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and or Ukraine

Watch for problems in the UK.

And? That's a local skirmish between unimportant players. Who cares?
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@cmoc_sdf

25 jets fly all over the border cities and bombardment.

Turkish warplanes stroke in depth 50km in Ain Issa inside Syrian territory.
 Quoting: Urður


Lets see how Putin reacts.
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As long as Turkey doesn't directly threaten Russian interests I doubt Putin cares.
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Turkey is doing their work, why would they object? In the end, Assad plans to take all of Rojave, all he need is time and resources which in all honesty, Russians can't provide as fast as some would want.
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Who are the Kurds?

Between 25 and 35 million Kurds inhabit a mountainous region straddling the borders of Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran and Armenia. They make up the fourth-largest ethnic group in the Middle East, but they have never obtained a permanent nation state.

Where do they come from?
The Kurds are one of the indigenous peoples of the Mesopotamian plains and the highlands in what are now south-eastern Turkey, north-eastern Syria, northern Iraq, north-western Iran and south-western Armenia.

Today, they form a distinctive community, united through race, culture and language, even though they have no standard dialect. They also adhere to a number of different religions and creeds, although the majority are Sunni Muslims.

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