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lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".

 
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lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".

last i knew, according to the fables, god was in charge and created. satan cant create. where did he get this magical creation material to make bones in the shape of dinosaurs, mammoth, and such.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
and while we're at it, lets change the B to a P....hehe
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
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That doesn't even make sense.
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
I think "BUT" is supposed to be "Put"

And I've never heard that argument before.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
What are you trying to say OP, you are talking gibborish.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".

last i knew, according to the fables, god was in charge and created. satan cant create. where did he get this magical creation material to make bones in the shape of dinosaurs, mammoth, and such.
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Fanatics like to drink strycnine. Too much of it, and boom next thing you know, you are Benny Hinn, running around talking about the evils of Harry Potter books, and talking about how God allowed Satan to create dinosaur bones to deceive God's children.

After all this is a more reasonable explanation than saying they actually existed and that maybe God created their end through some cataclysmic climate shift to prepare a world where man didn't have to compete with giant lizards all the time.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
After all this is a more reasonable explanation than saying they actually existed and that maybe God created their end through some cataclysmic climate shift to prepare a world where man didn't have to compete with giant lizards all the time.
 Quoting: King Neptune


I've talked to pastors about the possibility that this planet was terraformed and they tend to steer away from the subject, just like when I ask why the books of Enoch and Jasher were convieniently left out of the Bible. The reasons I've heard were that the Councils of Nicea and Sanhedrin left them out because they weren't "cannonized."
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
After all this is a more reasonable explanation than saying they actually existed and that maybe God created their end through some cataclysmic climate shift to prepare a world where man didn't have to compete with giant lizards all the time.


I've talked to pastors about the possibility that this planet was terraformed and they tend to steer away from the subject, just like when I ask why the books of Enoch and Jasher were convieniently left out of the Bible. The reasons I've heard were that the Councils of Nicea and Sanhedrin left them out because they weren't "cannonized."
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Do these same pastors believe that dinosaurs did not exist? I highly doubt it.
VERY few people would not be intelligent enough to believe dinosaurs did not exist.

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GOD is in charge and He did create dinosaurs. They were here during the first age. It is talked about some in the book of Job.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
Who knows...but seeking answers from people who don't know any more than you in areas they are not trained in doesn't make a whole lot of sense Good Will Hunting.

They are not trained in how this world came to be. They don't know any more than you or I. One theory is just as good as the next.

As far as the Atonement goes. We don't need to know how God created the Universe, or how creatures evolve.

I believe in both the Big Bang, and that there has been inner species evolution.

I do not believe that we came from amoebas.

Aside from that anything goes. Maybe God had this as a terrarium for a while with giant lush jungles and lizards, before, or while man was here I don't know.

I feel there is evidence to suggest that we co-existed. Temples in southeast asia with dinosaurs carved in their doorposts.

We don't need to know all the answers, and to me that is not why we are here.

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Why are we here? To me its simple. We know right from wrong. I believe we came to earth knowing right from wrong.

Faith to me is not a test of our ability to prove God's existence through science.

To me I would make an analogy of our existence here on the earth to a child's ability to respect his Father's rules.
Imagine you are a child, and your dad says I'm leaving the house for a while, while I'm gone, don't kill, don't tell lies about your neighbor that aren't true, don't send soldiers to war for your own personal profit and then not take care of them, don't get your neighbors daughter pregnant and then not honor your commitments.

While your dad is away, you know right from wrong, you can choose to do it or not. There are consequences and rewards for good and bad decisions.

You can do what is right because you respect your Father, or you choose to do what is not right, and say we are here because we evolved from amoebas, and that the Big Bang occuring 15 million years ago is proof that God does not exist. And that this earth has to be the only reason for the existence of the universe, and that there are no other worlds that may have been around a lot longer than this one.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
Who knows...but seeking answers from people who don't know any more than you in areas they are not trained in doesn't make a whole lot of sense Good Will Hunting.

They are not trained in how this world came to be. They don't know any more than you or I. One theory is just as good as the next.

As far as the Atonement goes. We don't need to know how God created the Universe, or how creatures evolve.

I believe in both the Big Bang, and that there has been inner species evolution.

I do not believe that we came from amoebas.

Aside from that anything goes. Maybe God had this as a terrarium for a while with giant lush jungles and lizards, before, or while man was here I don't know.

I feel there is evidence to suggest that we co-existed. Temples in southeast asia with dinosaurs carved in their doorposts.

We don't need to know all the answers, and to me that is not why we are here.

____________________________________________

Why are we here? To me its simple. We know right from wrong. I believe we came to earth knowing right from wrong.

Faith to me is not a test of our ability to prove God's existence through science.

To me I would make an analogy of our existence here on the earth to a child's ability to respect his Father's rules.
Imagine you are a child, and your dad says I'm leaving the house for a while, while I'm gone, don't kill, don't tell lies about your neighbor that aren't true, don't send soldiers to war for your own personal profit and then not take care of them, don't get your neighbors daughter pregnant and then not honor your commitments.

While your dad is away, you know right from wrong, you can choose to do it or not. There are consequences and rewards for good and bad decisions.

You can do what is right because you respect your Father, or you choose to do what is not right, and say we are here because we evolved from amoebas, and that the Big Bang occuring 15 million years ago is proof that God does not exist. And that this earth has to be the only reason for the existence of the universe, and that there are no other worlds that may have been around a lot longer than this one.
 Quoting: King Neptune



i'm not religious but...nice argument, well formed. hf
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
After all this is a more reasonable explanation than saying they actually existed and that maybe God created their end through some cataclysmic climate shift to prepare a world where man didn't have to compete with giant lizards all the time.
 Quoting: King Neptune

This is what I believe is the truth about dinosaurs.

Remember, Angels are created beings just like man is; before man the Angels had the universe to themselves - as the Bible says, "they were given the power to walk among the stones of fire." I suspect there were and are many glorious things to see on these planets.

I have no doubt that God also created life on many planets throughout the universe. I doubt the Angels and Man are his only creations. One of these types of life was the dinosaurs on a young planet Earth.

When God decided to make man, for reasons known only to God he decided to make Man on this planet (maybe because Earth is so far away from other planets with life?). Before he was to make man here he had to remove the life that was already here - the dinosaurs. That is why they died off so suddenly, because it was the work of God to prepare the Earth for Man.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".

last i knew, according to the fables, god was in charge and created. satan cant create. where did he get this magical creation material to make bones in the shape of dinosaurs, mammoth, and such.
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Satan caused the dissent which eventually resulted in oversized bones.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
lets kill an argument. "satan put dinosaur bones there".

last i knew, according to the fables, god was in charge and created. satan cant create. where did he get this magical creation material to make bones in the shape of dinosaurs, mammoth, and such.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271167

The earth was covered in a global flood, maybe you've heard of it. The dinos lived before then and were all killed, most no all, and buried in sediment. ALL fossils come from the flood.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
i'm not religious but...nice argument, well formed. hf
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cheers
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
It seems there's even Biblical ignorance. In Genesis account, first chapter the Hebrew word "tanninim" refers to what was translated as huge monsters and the account describes the same sort of creatures appearing as we can see in layers of geological strata, of course the names trilobite or Latin names were not used. Even life appearing in the waters. Genesis 3 says the snake did suffer a sort of metamorphosis and started to crawl obviously meaning once it didn't. Curiously fossil evidence shows there was a time when snakes did have feet and we know about flying dinosaurs with feathers like Mayan Kukulcan/Quetzalcoatl. The universal legends describing dragons like plessiosaurs suggest at least some could've survived in the lakes or sea due to a change of gravitational force in the planet (rotation and movement around the sun affecting even the size of animals, mammals even though bigger than current animals couldn't match the SIZE of beings before them, even trilobites were gigantic and insects and not because of tumors in the brains of ebery single creature or mutations but mainly due to geo-physical reasons related to the planet.

In Hebrew Genesis snake was not literal "nahash" but a spiritual creature like winged-snakes SERAPHIM with feet and hands! That's why Apocalypse correctly states the ancient snake was a dragon...like Chinese dragons. THe study of comparative religions do say the same story over and over and not related to each other.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
After all this is a more reasonable explanation than saying they actually existed and that maybe God created their end through some cataclysmic climate shift to prepare a world where man didn't have to compete with giant lizards all the time.
 Quoting: King Neptune

This is what I believe is the truth about dinosaurs.

Remember, Angels are created beings just like man is; before man the Angels had the universe to themselves - as the Bible says, "they were given the power to walk among the stones of fire." I suspect there were and are many glorious things to see on these planets.

I have no doubt that God also created life on many planets throughout the universe. I doubt the Angels and Man are his only creations. One of these types of life was the dinosaurs on a young planet Earth.

When God decided to make man, for reasons known only to God he decided to make Man on this planet (maybe because Earth is so far away from other planets with life?). Before he was to make man here he had to remove the life that was already here - the dinosaurs. That is why they died off so suddenly, because it was the work of God to prepare the Earth for Man.
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Genesis is specific about the reasons to create man: to "cultivate" the land. Now even old English translations use cultivate coming from ancient Latin "cultus" from which our word culture derivates. But that includes a lot of things even mining. Interesting the detail EDN where ADM was set with all sort of DNA was close to Hevila (we later know in chapter 10 the name is Post Deluge and was Opir/Ophir's brother), the land of GOLD of excellent quality..... Gold and silver belongs to God says Hageus prophet..
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".

last i knew, according to the fables, god was in charge and created. satan cant create. where did he get this magical creation material to make bones in the shape of dinosaurs, mammoth, and such.
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Did someone actually use that one???

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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
In Genesis account there's a difference between "create" (barah) and "form" or "model". If we're gonna take into consideration in most cases in Genesis is used form or model or make not as creation ex nihilo but as if taking elements from something already created... we could say the God who did that was different from the hanashash winged-snake dragon. Nowhere says the Bible that snake created or form anything. If humans can clone a sheep that's not creation but taking elements of the egg-cell already existing.


Why would Satan do that? Just to disagree with the Creacionists who believe earth is merely 6000 years old? Certainly that is not what the Bible says but an interpretation based upon texts that could well mean other thing. With the idea of Psalms that 1 day=1000 years we could multiply 1 God's day and the whole "week" of creation reaching almost the same amount of millions of years backed up by evolutionists! After all the events of the Big Bang (in case it is true!) were ticking when the cosmos was not inflated as today as a full baloon. There are simultaneous times depending on who's talking and FROM WHERE. God's point of view AT THAT SINGULARITY reality is different from our point of view TODAY when the cosmos stretched like bubble gum. We could admit 144 days in 6 "days" and AT THE SAME TIME millions of years in our point of view and there wouldn't be contradiction at all. More than that Christians in their ignorance overlook the fact creation started IN THE AFTERNOON and ended in the morning because in Hebrew afternoon means CHAOS (entropy) and morning means something "ordered" (and God saw it was good). The ancient translations even used the word "unified". That is not a modern "interpretation" but was understood by Jews thousands of years ago. Like Maimonides kabbalist, etc.
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Re: lets kill an argument. "satan but dinosaur bones there".
SATAN BUT
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