WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78076163 United States 10/12/2019 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts Calfire is trying to get rid of one guy and one repeater That guy as a sneaky defense tactic spread the rumor that the state is after everybody and the thing went viral |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77449426 United States 10/12/2019 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts This is all fake news Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78076163 Calfire is trying to get rid of one guy and one repeater That guy as a sneaky defense tactic spread the rumor that the state is after everybody and the thing went viral Yes. Amazing how gullible people are. Sometimes GLP is as bad as msm or even worse. Common guys, all you have to do is look up amateur radio club websites in Californa, go to some ham discussion boards and see for yourself that ham radio is alive and well in California. THINK FOR YOURSELF! QUESTION EVERYTHING!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31126728 United States 10/12/2019 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts TPTB can pull the plug on phones and internet very easily anytime they need to but ham radio is more of a problem for them. When the SHTF they do not want people to be able to communicate and organize... Take this as a sign that there is not long to go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073667 I am in the PG&E electrical shutdown area. One day after the power went out the landline phone went down too. No one is saying very much about it but the speculation is that AT&T's batteries drained after 24 hours. So much for a communication plan. |
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OzarkGranny User ID: 76292878 United States 10/12/2019 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land. Quoting: WyatteSmith “…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.” The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000. Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.” What the FUCK is going on?!? . Pretty scary OP, considering where all the dots connect ... THE SORO’S CONNECTION AKA HE IS COMING FOR YOUR HAM! [link to proffer.us] "George Soro’s has a lot of connections, but did you know, through his company AT&T, he is connected to America’s Emergency Infrastructure; FirstNet" Vietnam Era USMC ~ Semper Fidelis! NO GOLD FRINGE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FLAGS >>> [link to proffer.us] THE CONSPIRACY OF A COUP D’ETAT >>> [link to proffer.us] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77225670 United States 10/12/2019 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts Serious question, would love the oldest glper available think back a while. Did we "stop supporting" civilian ham operators in post-Pearl Harbor WWII? Did we stop supporting them during Viet Nam? Both strike me as instances that may warrant ham restrictions for security, both are during huge techno booms. Why now? |
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Pooka User ID: 78071217 United States 10/12/2019 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts Don't be silly! You are seeing one tiny fledgling tree in a forest of giant trees! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76616566 United States 10/12/2019 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts Who was the most familiar face of last years CA fires? Thread: Flashback: celeb 911 propagandists |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77449426 United States 10/12/2019 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts No, hamsters generously provide repeater services for free at their own expense because it's their hobby. So now California wants to hit them with huge fees just for putting up an antenna on a hill or on top of their houses. Next thing you know they'll hit you with stiff penalties for having a picnic on the grass or bbq'ing outside because you're hurting the environment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77949041 United States 10/12/2019 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land. Quoting: WyatteSmith “…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.” The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000. Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.” What the FUCK is going on?!? . Fuck the repeaters. Just broadcast LOS radio to radio. Pick a freq and key it up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77160714 United States 10/12/2019 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts No, hamsters generously provide repeater services for free at their own expense because it's their hobby. So now California wants to hit them with huge fees just for putting up an antenna on a hill or on top of their houses. Next thing you know they'll hit you with stiff penalties for having a picnic on the grass or bbq'ing outside because you're hurting the environment. Madness |
Evangelina User ID: 74476876 United States 10/12/2019 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing Quoting: Jake for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it I just heard that someplace else. It was a guy on a u2B channel, don't remember what his channel is. He was talking about the port of long beach? being the second largest port in the U.S. and there were concerns of terrorists being able to smuggle nuclear bombs in through that port. Last Edited by Evangelina on 10/12/2019 04:42 PM You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76733064 United States 10/12/2019 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts just maybe they very capable gov of CA plans to bring in the UN to rescue the people in CA and give them the ab ility to communicate through their rescuers. wouldn't we all embrace the help of the great UN who will rescue eventually all of us and make sure we all get a chance to become a global citizen, the mark printed on our hand. just a thought, don't know were that came from. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39474371 United States 10/12/2019 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts CA is run my democrats. It would take a lot to surprise me. The state I live in has outlawed BB guns, pepper spray, stun guns, and will stop you and search your car if you're out driving in the early A.M hours in most low to middle income areas. This is not news. This is the type of hell you should expect. |
Evangelina User ID: 74476876 United States 10/12/2019 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing Quoting: Jake for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it I just heard that someplace else. It was a guy on a u2B channel, don't remember what his channel is. He was talking about the port of long beach? being the second largest port in the U.S. and there were concerns of terrorists being able to smuggle nuclear bombs in through that port via a shipping container. This is the video Save your breath yanking about it. I don't know who this guy is but he sounded knowledgable. He mentions CA fires.. Ham Radios.. barry making it possible for China to buy this port.. China sold it to Australia? Is China pissed? Why isn't MSM talking about any of this (we know why).. is an attack planned on U.S.A.? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by Evangelina on 10/12/2019 04:32 PM You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76682345 United States 10/12/2019 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts I am a licensed "Extra" which is an Amateur Radio License (HAM). This is all licensed at a FEDERAL level by the FCC. There are laws in place that actually protect our right to operate on the Ham bands. For example, I can put up a tower to operate my radio equipment and short of being in the flight path of an Airport local governments can not stop me from doing it. Other benefits, for example, permit me to operate gear in my car that would otherwise be illegal. For example, in Florida it is illegal for you to run a police scanner in your car... unless you are a licensed ham operator then it is fully legal. The police can not say anything about it if you are licensed. So, California has no right to do anything. If they (the govt) operated their own repeater net on the ham bands and paid for it they have all the rights in the world to shut it down. But, if I have a repeater up on my own tower they can't say a thing about it. Now... if they are using towers on PUBLIC LAND there is nothing saying you have the rights to use THEIR EQUIPMENT (such as a tower). Whoever owns the tower makes the rules. If that is the case just move the repeater. And BTW it is common practice to have a "technical analysis" when putting an antenna on a tower. Doesn't matter if AT&T ownes the tower or T-Con owns the tower... they will usually always want this to make sure your antenna and frequencies being used will not affect the operation of other tenants on the tower. Those tests usually run in the thousands of dollars. Ham radio operators think that is expensive because HAM is a hobby.... but a commercial operator just expects it because it is normal. |
Evangelina User ID: 74476876 United States 10/12/2019 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land. Quoting: WyatteSmith “…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.” The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000. Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.” What the FUCK is going on?!? . I just bought a set after that thread a week or so ago. Haven't taken them out of the box yet. Got my book yesterday. What is going on? You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
Jake User ID: 77849624 United States 10/12/2019 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts they are the ones who are already paying for it California doesn't pay a penny for it. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Evangelina User ID: 74476876 United States 10/12/2019 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts CA is run my democrats. It would take a lot to surprise me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39474371 The state I live in has outlawed BB guns, pepper spray, stun guns, and will stop you and search your car if you're out driving in the early A.M hours in most low to middle income areas. This is not news. This is the type of hell you should expect. Where are you? That's crazy!! East coast? Mid? West? I never heard of such a thing. You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946058 United States 10/12/2019 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts The problem is and always has been line of site. In the remote regions where the Forrest service has allowed repeaters on their towers it's always been space "given" to the Ham club that set it up. And the Forrest service controls all that land so they are the only game in town. So unless your portable gennie has a 200 ft or more tower, it doesn't help much. The best repeaters are the tallest repeaters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71119660 United States 10/12/2019 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts CA is run my democrats. It would take a lot to surprise me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39474371 The state I live in has outlawed BB guns, pepper spray, stun guns, and will stop you and search your car if you're out driving in the early A.M hours in most low to middle income areas. This is not news. This is the type of hell you should expect. Where are you? That's crazy!! East coast? Mid? West? I never heard of such a thing. The state that all the New Yorkers fled to before they discovered Florida. |
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FireSteel User ID: 76951416 United States 10/12/2019 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts California Its no longer another state in the US.... Its a whole different foreign country Last Edited by FireSteel on 10/12/2019 05:05 PM |