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WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts

 
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This is all fake news

Calfire is trying to get rid of one guy and one repeater

That guy as a sneaky defense tactic spread the rumor that the state is after everybody and the thing went viral

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This is all fake news

Calfire is trying to get rid of one guy and one repeater

That guy as a sneaky defense tactic spread the rumor that the state is after everybody and the thing went viral

siren2
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Yes. Amazing how gullible people are. Sometimes GLP is as bad as msm or even worse.

Common guys, all you have to do is look up amateur radio club websites in Californa, go to some ham discussion boards and see for yourself that ham radio is alive and well in California.

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TPTB can pull the plug on phones and internet very easily anytime they need to but ham radio is more of a problem for them. When the SHTF they do not want people to be able to communicate and organize... Take this as a sign that there is not long to go.
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I am in the PG&E electrical shutdown area. One day after the power went out the landline phone went down too. No one is saying very much about it but the speculation is that AT&T's batteries drained after 24 hours.

So much for a communication plan.
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What's going on is Democrats worship Satan. So the more chaos they can sew into society, the more pleased their master is with them.
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Traitor pig democraps getting ready to hand over CA to foreign invaders.
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They want fees for the repeaters, relax.
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The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land.

“…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.”

The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000.

Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.”


What the FUCK is going on?!?



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 Quoting: WyatteSmith

Pretty scary OP, considering where all the dots connect ...

THE SORO’S CONNECTION AKA HE IS COMING FOR YOUR HAM!
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"George Soro’s has a lot of connections, but did you know, through his company AT&T, he is connected to America’s Emergency Infrastructure; FirstNet"

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HAS ANYONE TRIED THE FEDERAL OVER-RIDES HERE?

..LEGAL OR NSS NSC NSA ?
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Serious question, would love the oldest glper available think back a while.


Did we "stop supporting" civilian ham operators in post-Pearl Harbor WWII?


Did we stop supporting them during Viet Nam?

Both strike me as instances that may warrant ham restrictions for security, both are during huge techno booms. Why now?
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This isn’t normal....some heavy shit going down in CA.
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They want fees for the repeaters, relax.
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so, hamsters want free repeater service.
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Who was the most familiar face of last years CA fires?
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so, hamsters want free repeater service.
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No, hamsters generously provide repeater services for free at their own expense because it's their hobby.

So now California wants to hit them with huge fees just for putting up an antenna on a hill or on top of their houses.

Next thing you know they'll hit you with stiff penalties for having a picnic on the grass or bbq'ing outside because you're hurting the environment.
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The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land.

“…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.”

The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000.

Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.”


What the FUCK is going on?!?



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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Fuck the repeaters. Just broadcast LOS radio to radio. Pick a freq and key it up.
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so, hamsters want free repeater service.
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No, hamsters generously provide repeater services for free at their own expense because it's their hobby.

So now California wants to hit them with huge fees just for putting up an antenna on a hill or on top of their houses.

Next thing you know they'll hit you with stiff penalties for having a picnic on the grass or bbq'ing outside because you're hurting the environment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77449426


Madness
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
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I just heard that someplace else. It was a guy on a u2B channel, don't remember what his channel is. He was talking about the port of long beach? being the second largest port in the U.S. and there were concerns of terrorists being able to smuggle nuclear bombs in through that port.

Last Edited by Evangelina on 10/12/2019 04:42 PM
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China said so.
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hesright
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just maybe they very capable gov of CA plans to bring in the UN to rescue the people in CA and give them the ab ility to communicate through their rescuers.

wouldn't we all embrace the help of the great UN who will
rescue eventually all of us and make sure we all get a chance to become a global citizen, the mark printed on our hand.

just a thought, don't know were that came from.

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CA is run my democrats. It would take a lot to surprise me.

The state I live in has outlawed BB guns, pepper spray, stun guns, and will stop you and search your car if you're out driving in the early A.M hours in most low to middle income areas.

This is not news.

This is the type of hell you should expect.
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
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I just heard that someplace else. It was a guy on a u2B channel, don't remember what his channel is. He was talking about the port of long beach? being the second largest port in the U.S. and there were concerns of terrorists being able to smuggle nuclear bombs in through that port via a shipping container.
 Quoting: Evangelina



This is the video

Save your breath yanking about it. I don't know who this guy is but he sounded
knowledgable.

He mentions CA fires.. Ham Radios.. barry making it possible for China to buy this port.. China sold it to Australia? Is China pissed? Why isn't MSM talking about any of this (we know why).. is an attack planned on U.S.A.?



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I am a licensed "Extra" which is an Amateur Radio License (HAM).

This is all licensed at a FEDERAL level by the FCC. There are laws in place that actually protect our right to operate on the Ham bands.

For example, I can put up a tower to operate my radio equipment and short of being in the flight path of an Airport local governments can not stop me from doing it.

Other benefits, for example, permit me to operate gear in my car that would otherwise be illegal. For example, in Florida it is illegal for you to run a police scanner in your car... unless you are a licensed ham operator then it is fully legal. The police can not say anything about it if you are licensed.

So, California has no right to do anything. If they (the govt) operated their own repeater net on the ham bands and paid for it they have all the rights in the world to shut it down. But, if I have a repeater up on my own tower they can't say a thing about it.

Now... if they are using towers on PUBLIC LAND there is nothing saying you have the rights to use THEIR EQUIPMENT (such as a tower). Whoever owns the tower makes the rules. If that is the case just move the repeater.

And BTW it is common practice to have a "technical analysis" when putting an antenna on a tower. Doesn't matter if AT&T ownes the tower or T-Con owns the tower... they will usually always want this to make sure your antenna and frequencies being used will not affect the operation of other tenants on the tower. Those tests usually run in the thousands of dollars. Ham radio operators think that is expensive because HAM is a hobby.... but a commercial operator just expects it because it is normal.
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The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land.

“…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.”

The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000.

Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.”


What the FUCK is going on?!?



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 Quoting: WyatteSmith



I just bought a set after that thread a week or so ago. Haven't taken them out of the box yet. Got my book yesterday.

What is going on?
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so, hamsters want free repeater service.
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they are the ones who are already paying for it

California doesn't pay a penny for it.
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CA is run my democrats. It would take a lot to surprise me.

The state I live in has outlawed BB guns, pepper spray, stun guns, and will stop you and search your car if you're out driving in the early A.M hours in most low to middle income areas.

This is not news.

This is the type of hell you should expect.
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Where are you? That's crazy!! East coast? Mid? West? I never heard of such a thing.
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It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God

TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it.

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
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are they claiming some sort of fire hazard or something?
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No. The term is offensive to muslims.
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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Hey man build a mobile repeater powered by a generator.
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The problem is and always has been line of site. In the remote regions where the Forrest service has allowed repeaters on their towers it's always been space "given" to the Ham club that set it up. And the Forrest service controls all that land so they are the only game in town.

So unless your portable gennie has a 200 ft or more tower, it doesn't help much.

The best repeaters are the tallest repeaters.
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CA is run my democrats. It would take a lot to surprise me.

The state I live in has outlawed BB guns, pepper spray, stun guns, and will stop you and search your car if you're out driving in the early A.M hours in most low to middle income areas.

This is not news.

This is the type of hell you should expect.
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Where are you? That's crazy!! East coast? Mid? West? I never heard of such a thing.
 Quoting: Evangelina


The state that all the New Yorkers fled to before they discovered Florida.
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The Chicoms can't invade California with a bunch of rogue HAM repeaters in the hills

Comms need to be taken out...
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California

Its no longer another state in the US.... Its a whole different foreign country

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